Pity System Explained - NA getting pity early?

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It's been awhile since my last upload as a took a break to re-evaluate things.
Today we're going to be explaining the Pity System and some of the ins and outs of its functions. Pity is more reachable than people think and with the news coming out of JP it looks like it might come to NA early!
Keep in mind just because Korea has it announced, doesn't mean the NA server will!
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  • @Khadroth
    @Khadroth Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for not posting for awhile, but the news out of Korea is too big not to cover! Do you think we'll follow Korea and get pity by new years?

  • @GammaRingHunter

    @GammaRingHunter

    Жыл бұрын

    What was the Korea news? Pity before or after new years

  • @cephon6198

    @cephon6198

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I can't speak Korean

  • @perseus9535

    @perseus9535

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GammaRingHunter they just got pity for their 5th anniversary. weirdly enough they also got Muramasa as their anni servant, not Castoria

  • @julkthuuzoo2260
    @julkthuuzoo2260 Жыл бұрын

    FGO having the worst pity system is to expect

  • @Zorn_Arc_Vortigern

    @Zorn_Arc_Vortigern

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @TheMCMaffyx
    @TheMCMaffyx Жыл бұрын

    They could greatly improve pity alone when they carry it over all banners. I hope they announce something like this to New Year so we can hope that we will get the update to the anni. Nice video. Always happy when you upload something :)

  • @justinmullins1112

    @justinmullins1112

    Жыл бұрын

    I've heard an argument against rolling pity, something like this: they probably don't want to incentivize players to not roll when they have pity coming up but they don't want the current 5* on rate-up. I'll admit I haven't thought through how reasonable this argument is. I'd appreciate input on this, either for or against.

  • @persephonehades7547

    @persephonehades7547

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justinmullins1112 It's hardly reasonable. Either way they would get the same amount of money from whales and dolphins, so the lack of carry over really fucks over FTP/GSSR-only players the most.

  • @kryx1543
    @kryx1543 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest, after a long time fgo finally has pity and it definitely has trade offs, but the thing that I can't stand about the pity is the rotation on the banner, it makes players feel very uneasy when wanting to roll a specific unit, like making the game more focus on 5 stars instead of letting players roll on individual rotation like the 4 and 3 stars servants and overall it makes it less appealing to roll on a banner.

  • @redd1315
    @redd1315 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great info Khad

  • @leon5460
    @leon5460 Жыл бұрын

    this thing don't have a good outcome for f2p because they don't have rotation banner anymore for sr. Also we don't really use the pity system because to get 300 pulls it's like saving for almost an entire year to only get 1 ssr (unless it's your ultimate waifu/husbando and you don't care about other units).

  • @shinja5459
    @shinja5459 Жыл бұрын

    I heard about the pity and went "wait we pity system?" Genuine shock 😲

  • @RoMa-1586
    @RoMa-1586 Жыл бұрын

    This could very well be announce at Anime NYC this weekend since Yoshiki Kanou will in attendance at the event and let’s not forget that the Thanksgiving campaign might get announce as well.

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris Жыл бұрын

    A nice breakdown of the pity system. Honestly I think it'll happen for NA. One doesn't mean the other will happen. But I just feel like the NA side would be able to get it done with the example of Korea getting it early. The issues for the 4* servants is too bad. But I think the benefits are still higher. Be really nice to set goals of a couple specific servants next year and know that I can get them if I put enough quartz aside. Instead of now where I can put a lot of quartz aside...but can still be doomed.

  • @muchluck7981

    @muchluck7981

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember that there are people who want 4 star servants... and are now having the potential to be screwed due to banner shenanigans

  • @GoobieWoobie69
    @GoobieWoobie69 Жыл бұрын

    this "pity" system would be a lot better if it transferred over between banners so you would at least have a guaranteed character you want in the future since 900 SQ tales a lot to get. The predatory nature of this games gacha makes me so sad since i enjoy the game but don't wanna support this companies practices.

  • @ShionKenobi

    @ShionKenobi

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to mention there is no pity for 4 stars, you know sometimes you get what you dont need, even being rarer... Also, even big spenders are hurt by this pity, a little. You cant garantee Np2 with 1.8k SQ as it goes away. Which is dumbashell...

  • @jezzajake6621
    @jezzajake6621 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Khad! I never thought about summoning on separate banners for additional copies to get the pity again. That's a great idea and will definitely come in clutch for some of my NP2 targets.

  • @pokegoldmineA
    @pokegoldmineA Жыл бұрын

    I am split about pity coming early to EN if it comes early. On one hand it would be nice to be able to guarantee so high value SSRs early like Koyan Light and Oberon for many players. On the other hand I am not going to enjoy the lack of rotating banners and dread getting NP10 Baobhan while trying to get Barghest or getting NP10 Rider Caenis while aiming for Berserker Sei. As for the amount, while I would've prefered if it were lower like say, 600 SQ to hit pity, getting 900 SQ isn't too big of an ordeal if you have good self control. Either way, good luck on all of your future summons and while pity is nice, it would still suck having to hit it.

  • @hmmmmname
    @hmmmmname Жыл бұрын

    Really glad the only 4 star I'm rolling for in the next 2 years (re-run banner aside) is Zenobia (who doesn't have any other 4 stars on rate-up).

  • @chellsolo4162
    @chellsolo4162 Жыл бұрын

    dear Khadroth, thanks for the explanation, but I have a question, what happen in dual/multiple 5* banners?, as far as I know they do exist (i think) and I just whant 1 of those

  • @thekirtfox
    @thekirtfox Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the info! Great food for thought. Along with your great farming guides, you deserve more followers. Keep up the great work ^^.

  • @rusterrd4037
    @rusterrd4037 Жыл бұрын

    would friend points count towards the pity too? or just quartz and tickets?

  • @PGM991
    @PGM991 Жыл бұрын

    900SQ... It's same as don't have any pity for me. It meant for whale No effect for me whatsoever.

  • @requiemTA
    @requiemTA Жыл бұрын

    Good to see you back

  • @gee_kaz
    @gee_kaz Жыл бұрын

    I know pity is nice and all but i dont like how they handle the SR rateups since it got implemented. I have a few targets for next year if there's no split rate ups is just gonna suck

  • @llucasss6173
    @llucasss6173 Жыл бұрын

    Those banner with 2 5* won't rotate anymore? Or it's only the 4* who won't rotate but they'll make another banner for the other 5*?

  • @cmversailles
    @cmversailles Жыл бұрын

    For NA, is the current pity system at 330 rolls for guaranteed GSSR? Assuming your rolling it all in one day, or rolling concurrently?

  • @Ayumu31
    @Ayumu3110 ай бұрын

    So lemme get this straight, if I want summer kama and I'm at 899 sqs n didn't get her on day one. Then I wait till next two or three days till the next one pull, my pity for kama won't reset even if the 4 stars rotation has changed by then?

  • @KHMDarkness
    @KHMDarkness Жыл бұрын

    I’ll be frank, unless the pity system carries over from banner to banner, it’s pretty useless for the average player. For most players, they wouldn’t have over 300 SQ for banners. At most, from saving for about two months, they might have about 100? And that’s being generous with the game giving you SQ around this time of year. So really, this only effects the Whales and Krakens. The majority of the player base cannot use this because of the simple fact that they won’t have it carry over from banner to banner.

  • @mogagary

    @mogagary

    Жыл бұрын

    I humbly disagree with you here. I am F2P and I have never spent so much as a single dollar on the game since I started playing back in 2019. Yet I managed to save well over 800 SQ for Van Gogh. I ultimately spent 810 SQ and 5 tickets and got neither her nor Nemo. Had the Pity system existed here, I would have hit 900 SQ and gotten that 1 copy of Van Gogh.

  • @KHMDarkness

    @KHMDarkness

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mogagary While it is true you would have gotten Van Gogh if the pity system was in the game at the time (also you didn’t get her even after 800 pulls? Oof… my condolences. >.> ), but I have to ask; how many times did you pull before that banner? Or rather how many other Servants did you get that’s four stars or above? From what it sounds like, you didn’t spend a single SQ on any banner since you started that account. Which is how you were able to have 800 for Van Gogh’s banner.

  • @zephann8714
    @zephann8714 Жыл бұрын

    Ayo finally he's back 😭😭

  • @OtakuDono
    @OtakuDono Жыл бұрын

    This "pity" is shit tbh. Just because it's better than nothing, doesn't make it good. I hope that when they implement it on NA they think good and hard how to fix it and implement all the changes in both servers at the same time.

  • @illyachan5901
    @illyachan5901 Жыл бұрын

    What I'm worried about is that since they're adding a pity system, is that gonna change how the summoning works already? 900 gems is a ridiculous amount to need for reaching pity, especially if it doesn't transfer over. I remember having 500 something gems saved up when summoning for illya and I got 2 of her, and I got vanghoh in 4 summon tickets. but will the new pity system make it so that things like that are less likely to happen because it wants you to go to full pity..? Because I'd rather have no pity if thata the case.

  • @ptilopsis4092

    @ptilopsis4092

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think so. As long as the rates don't change the pulling experience will stay the same, but I think the pity automatically restart after you get the SSR (?)

  • @purelysmetalnightcore
    @purelysmetalnightcore Жыл бұрын

    I'm very fortunate to be financially stable enough to afford the pity system (if I need it), so I intend to return to the game once pity is implemented in NA. Honestly, I've already had a LOT of good luck between my original JP account and multiple NA accounts, so I am not too worried, especially in regard to the issue with the 4*s.

  • @luckyman4906

    @luckyman4906

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back

  • @purelysmetalnightcore

    @purelysmetalnightcore

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luckyman4906 LOL thanks, the game welcomed me back with Heracles my first try on the tutorial roll. I was prepared to reroll for him.

  • @jtfbreedlove
    @jtfbreedlove Жыл бұрын

    Never heard of this before, would have helped for the hundreds of anniversary SQ I wasted trying to kid vinci.

  • @gudakoalter
    @gudakoalter Жыл бұрын

    well this will definitely change my F2p plan for 2023-2024 NA.

  • @ShionKenobi

    @ShionKenobi

    Жыл бұрын

    Me 2. Oberon, here I go. Koyan 4 december 2023. 2024 I will have to pick wisely. Summer Skadi, Proto-Merlin, Arc and Summer Ibuki are 2 close to each other, not to mention Morgan banners. And I totally will try to pull Kriemhild, but my 4 star luck is weird as f, hope I dont destroy my reserves to get np7 Roland...

  • @gaiusx287

    @gaiusx287

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShionKenobi are you pulling for farming gameplay? If so, do you need both Morgan and Ibuki? Either one of those at NP2 would work as an Omni farmer

  • @Ilyiglvutl
    @Ilyiglvutl Жыл бұрын

    wait we getting that summer this year? I thought its next year and summer is already over

  • @alexchan4819
    @alexchan4819 Жыл бұрын

    While I do like the pity system, I hope no player ever has to rely on it. Truly hell

  • @falconmage89

    @falconmage89

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh you mean player like me who saved 1k SQ for super orion and only him and got zero copies of him? I got zero SSR from a 1k SQ roll. Luck? Skill? Or maybe a pity.

  • @alexchan4819

    @alexchan4819

    Жыл бұрын

    @@falconmage89 skill issue

  • @cameraredeye3115

    @cameraredeye3115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@falconmage89 1000 SQ for Super Orion? That's entirely your choice. And yes, it's a skill issue. Git gud.

  • @falconmage89

    @falconmage89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cameraredeye3115yes, it's my choice but a pity system in place would have been a goof thing. Even with it being 900 SQ safety net.

  • @AbdulAhad0128
    @AbdulAhad0128 Жыл бұрын

    This aged well

  • @ninjabreadman8166
    @ninjabreadman8166 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back, King 🤴

  • @JaimeNyx15
    @JaimeNyx15 Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t realize the requirement for pity was so small. I thought it was 1000 SQ. 300 is a lot more manageable EDIT: This is incorrect. Take a look at Trihexian Entertainment's comment below for correct info

  • @Trihexian

    @Trihexian

    Жыл бұрын

    No it’s not 300sq it’s 300 rolls. you have to do at least 900sq worth of rolls if I remember correctly meaning you would have to be doing 11rolls 30 times to get the pity system

  • @JaimeNyx15

    @JaimeNyx15

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Trihexian Ah, gotcha. misunderstood the video. Thanks!

  • @Zeroblank7810
    @Zeroblank7810 Жыл бұрын

    Why the Korean server looked down upon

  • @putra2825
    @putra28258 ай бұрын

    i thought 330 rolls equal to 300sq, but still get it the banner servant lmao

  • @NerosHusband
    @NerosHusband Жыл бұрын

    Finally!!!!

  • @hellrider22393
    @hellrider22393 Жыл бұрын

    So about 1000 Sq?.... nope sucks

  • @fangthefabulous1132
    @fangthefabulous1132 Жыл бұрын

    Wait wait wait wait... FGO has PITY‽ WHEN‽ I've been playing for YEARS and this is the first I've heard of it!

  • @beestek.94
    @beestek.94 Жыл бұрын

    Man, pity system that can't be carried over is pretty archaic. Why can't FGO just follow some games with good pity system and implement it to their game?

  • @Mellyster
    @Mellyster Жыл бұрын

    350 pulls ? wow.

  • @noboru5138
    @noboru513811 ай бұрын

    Dude i just used 60 SQ not knowing the pity system😭

  • @FateburnXVII
    @FateburnXVII Жыл бұрын

    that sounds like bad business practices

  • @samusownzlol
    @samusownzlol Жыл бұрын

    Caps a banner unit at like 900~ SQ, would make my life easier. About to hit 1000 SQ saved up for Morgan, and while I’m relying on the statistics behind getting her, pity would be a very nice safety net, as I watched a video the other day of someone spending almost 1500 to get Van Gogh. Or was it Nemo? Whoever was the most recent event. …worst case, I can get Merlin in 2024 when we’re projected to get pity.

  • @rellsyk6358
    @rellsyk6358 Жыл бұрын

    The FGO pity system is ok, Genshin has a better one, but something is something. I hope they can bring this to NA as a new year's update, it'll be really helpful since the next year is gonna be insane for gacha.

  • @Noizemaze4

    @Noizemaze4

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah genshit just makes you pay more in the end cuz small amounts do add up, also the more "free" stuff they give away means that by the time a anniversary or big event comes around you'll get LESS rewards

  • @theburning_yandere710

    @theburning_yandere710

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Noizemaze4 exactly👌

  • @azeto2797

    @azeto2797

    Жыл бұрын

    900 SQ How long you save up for that amount in fgo? No carry over Even rotating banner doesn't work Is that ok? In genshin, at least every single pull still useful, I can guarantee that you can hit pity once every 2-3 months being f2p (hitting pity for 5 stars in uncommon, normally you get at 70+ pulls or early 10 pulls), but this? The only time fgo generous to us is when anniv, that's once a year. I think only whales benefitting from this.

  • @rellsyk6358

    @rellsyk6358

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Noizemaze4 Hahaha you right there. Well, i just made my appointment in base of my best friend experience who plays Genshin and that's what he said about it, i only play FGO and that's enough gacha for me lol, i recently introduced him into the Fateverse, so let's hope he can change his mind XD

  • @rellsyk6358

    @rellsyk6358

    Жыл бұрын

    @Azeto In the past i used to play lot of gacha games besides FGO, but honestly, i consider FGO pretty generous when it comes to rewards/sq/tickets, and so far that's one of the many reasons I'm still playing this game (I'm f2p btw). Is just a matter of avoid certain banners. Khadroth himself did advice us about this and said that it is better to have a plan for the units you really want. I can save around 700sq even throwing on bait banners, but that's my limit lol.

  • @sathariel3231
    @sathariel3231 Жыл бұрын

    Ayo it’s twitch chat

  • @DarthSid98
    @DarthSid98 Жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile me who always saved 900+ SQ worth for a targeted SSR: I missed the part where that’s my problem

  • @agearmaster1
    @agearmaster1 Жыл бұрын

    Hello chat!

  • @subertin1382
    @subertin1382 Жыл бұрын

    did 160 pull got no 5 star this suk

  • @Zeon081
    @Zeon081 Жыл бұрын

    what do you mean we never had a pity system? we had USOs kekw

  • @pilgrimofway805
    @pilgrimofway805 Жыл бұрын

    Very good, very nice

  • @TheEdFather
    @TheEdFather Жыл бұрын

    Who else is here after being screwed by Vitch?

  • @ksfallenangel5770
    @ksfallenangel5770 Жыл бұрын

    Pity after 330 rolls... LOL. what a joke. Good luck whales!

  • @SuperSarutobisensei
    @SuperSarutobisensei Жыл бұрын

    Leave it to FGO to create a pity system that I actually dread and would prefer didn't exist. The shared SR rate up that comes from pity honestly seems like its due to programming incompitance rather than an executive decision. Or if is is an executive decision its downright malicious and predatory. You will almost never need the SSR pity anyway but now your ability to get the SR you want is terribly compromised. Pity is for the SSR so as long as that remains the constant, what's wrong with rotating SR banners?

  • @nurventilatoren
    @nurventilatoren Жыл бұрын

    Even Genshins Pity System is FAR better. There you'll hit Soft Pity in roughly 74 Summons and Hard Pity in 90 Summons. So yeah, FGOs Pity System is trash. (And Pity carries over)

  • @cesardavalos1711
    @cesardavalos1711 Жыл бұрын

    Ugh. FGO has bad pity. I would almost prefer no pity

  • @someoneelse4939
    @someoneelse4939 Жыл бұрын

    Not a particularly good pity system, but better than nothing.

  • @moriko-chan1059
    @moriko-chan105911 ай бұрын

    It is way worse than genshin OMG!

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