I am considering this tire as well, and for similar use to yours. I have dedicated road and gravel wheelsets, so my 650B setup sees little tarmac. This may be the perfect tire for me! That was a great review with great and to the point information, well done sir! Thanks!

I love all your tire reviews! Thank You! Grtx from Germany!

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Greatly appreciated!

Excellent review! Cheers.

Excellent review thank you 🙏

Great video from the Saffa liked the tyre shots whilst rolling.

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Lekker my brew! ;) Thanks for watching.

Now that's how a tire review should be like, awesome job! Versatile review of a versatile tire! I was already interested in this tire one year ago and even ordered it, yet ultimately decided to choose the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 640b x 47 because the Cinturato had few reviews online, whereas the Vittorias were a widely popular tire with great reviews. There have been new reviews of the Cinturato in 2020, however yours is the first one of the 650b x 50 that I've been eyeing on! So hats off for making this content 🙂 I especially appreciate that you shared the actual width of the tire with the rim inner width mentioned. Even more importantly from my point of view, the review included testing on snow, which is exactly what I'm planning these tires for! In Finland the winter is long and I've noticed the Vittoria Terreno Dry is definitely showing its weakness in such conditions (obviously it's a dry condition tire, so no wonder), so looking for something else but not wanting to go with studded tires as we don't really have ice on the roads but rather snow. Particularly the fact that you mentioned no loss of traction when out of the saddle was highly appreciated. Small details but extremely valuable! On Vittorias I'm even having a bit fun intentionally skidding on them when out of the saddle 🙂 With regards to the recommended tire pressures marked on the sidewall, I reckon the manufacturers tend to be on the conservative side as usual to cover their bases (after all, I don't think they want to advise for lower minimum pressure so as not to risk denting the rim). For instance, Vittoria recommends over 2 bars on their mountain bike tires (2.25"), yet they can and should be ridden at lower pressures than that (if running over 2 bars on such a tire, it would get quite rough and bouncy on the trails! 😅). Lots of people doing this including me, you just need to be aware of what's the absolute minimum you can safely go without tacoing your rim 🙃. It's also a matter of puncture prevention if riding with tubes (risk for snake bite punctures if running too low pressure with tubes), however with tubeless setup there is no such an issue, as there's no tube to get pinched between the rim and tire! I would've liked to see the tire weighed on the video. Interestingly, I've seen the 700c x 40 version having a incredible variety in weight on the reviews I've looked at, some state around 479g and some 540g (!). Also, a review on a German bike product website says the 650b x 50 tire weighs 663g, even though the manufacturer's claimed weight is 550g. Now that's over 100 grams of difference on a single tire! That's why I would've appreciated if you were able to provide the weight of the tire you have, but perhaps might be too late at this point when the tires are mounted, especially if mounted tubeless (not sure if it was mentioned in the review if running tubeless/tubes)? An amazing review altogether, keep up the good work! 😊

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Kiitos! I really appreciate this comment. This is by far the most detailed comment that I’ve received on this channel to date and I certainly like details. Very glad that you found this so valuable. I visited Helsinki during December a few years ago and know your winter riding conditions well. The rides I did while there were some of the coldest I’ve ever done, but certainly memorable. I’m sure these Pirelli tires will come in very handy in those conditions. About the pressure...Yes I was also thinking that the manufactures just like to be on the safe side. I’ve been testing out lower pressures and have gone as low as 25 psi on some of my trail rides. When it was that soft I didn’t have any issues, but I do remember one occasion when I hit a tree root a bit hard and that bottomed out the tire against the rim. I’ll say that was more rider error than tire error. You’re right about the weight. I wanted to include this, but neglected to check this and film it on the day I fitted the tires tubeless. Sorry that I can’t give you that info at this time. Thanks again for checking out the channel!

@pedalscript

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide Yeah, no worries buddy, with a weigh-in the review would've been too perfect! 😉 Great to hear you've had a glimpse of the local winter riding scene 😃 The winter (and weather) conditions here (especially in southern Finland) are very variable, with the terrain alternating between bare gravel, slush, ice, and dry or sticky snow, which is exactly what makes it challenging for cycling as there's no tire that can handle it all without compromising performance on one of them. Obviously the cold also sets some challenges, like you mentioned :). Will follow your channel, take care!

@Rippin76

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedalscript I just purchased a set of these Gravel M tires and can confirm they weigh in at 692 gr and 702 gr, so almost 150 gr OVER the manufacturers stated 550 gr.

Excellent review with good mix of tech detail and practical experience. It's also good to get a view of what you were looking for in a tyre, a closeup of clearance, rim width, AND how it expanded over time.

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciate the feedback! Just tried to be as thorough as possible while listing all the things that I would like to know before buying these tires.

@kevinlinares9060

3 жыл бұрын

Will do, oh and you can't miss my bike . . . It is a pistachio green pastel Crust bike. This video inspired me to go out riding today, thank you. If you haven't ridden Gambrill state park in Frederick county I recommend it on 650b or wider.

@SartorialPictures

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide exactly. I just ordered a pair :-)

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

I rode through the Frederick Watershed a few months ago. I was on a 700Cx40 setup...and broke a spoke. That ride was part of the reason why I started looking for a 650b option. Im eager to go back with the new setup for sure!

@kevinlinares9060

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide an earlier comment posted stated that it is worth pointing out rim inner width and tire width expansion overtime. I do want to point out, just in case your 650b tires are too wide, my 650b Donnelly stradas started as 50mm measured on the hunt wheels and as of today they have expanded slightly over 52mm. I'm contemplating whether I should keep them on for the February monstercross race outside of Richmond.

Great review! I just ordered a set for my new gravel bike - looks like I made a good choice! One thing... I say this just to try to be helpful, (not being critical) but when you say "thread", you really mean to say "tread". Thread is what holds your clothes together. Tread is what's on a tire (or the bottom of a shoe).

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I truly appreciate that correction. I actually didn’t realize that I made that mistake. You can thread your way through some mud with all the tread on your new tires :) You’ll really enjoy them, I’ve put many more happy miles on my tires since this review.

Great review. I have had these 650b hunt wheels for two years and two sets of tires, 47 specialized pathfinders and 50c Donnelly strada. I have used these from the local network of forest trails in Montgomery County to the C&O canal with no issues and all comfort. On tarmac, they do run slower than my previous 700x40 setup. I am looking to upgrade to xc 27.5 tires as I tend to favor rough gravel over taamac. The vittoria mezcal and teravail echline are on my short list. See you around the area!

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I’ve really been enjoying the Hunt wheels. Great value if you consider what you get for the price. I just looked up those xc tires that you mentioned...nice picks! If you see my blue 3T cruising along the C&O do holler out.

@telunter

3 жыл бұрын

Do either of you think there will be much of a speed penalty in choosing the 650b x 50mm over the 650b × 45mm if my riding is likely 50/50 tarmac and muddy trails? Set of buying these tyres but unsure about which width to go for! Thanks!

Very helpful. My Hunt Mason 650Bs have just arrived and looking at these or Goodyear Connectors for adventure riding in the UK. Not sure whether to go 45 or 50, but the frame will take 50 so will probably go with that.

Convinced 👍

Thanks for the video. Will It fit as rear tyre for topstone 3 Lefty ?

I just installed the Cinturato for hard pack and they look great. They were also easy to setup tubeless.

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn't mention this in the review, but the tubeless installation was really straightforward and I had no issues. I'm curious to know what the wear rate looks like for the Gravel H's. I'm considering them for a 700c wheelset. Let me know how it goes with yours.

@sandykavor8434

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide I certainly will. I gave a feeling they are going to be pretty good. I wanted something less aggressive as I ride a lot of road. Mines are 700x40.

@chychy4568

Жыл бұрын

​@@sandykavor8434 any updates boss?

@sandykavor8434

Жыл бұрын

@Chy Chy Yes. I'm on a 2nd set of these currently and absolutely love them. I only had one puncture running over some glass, but used a plug and tire was back in business. I had over 6k miles on the first set.

@chychy4568

Жыл бұрын

@@sandykavor8434 you talking about the "H"? Right?

Hi what pressure are you running on those tyres? I’m using the sram pressure calculator but feel that the pressure are still very high I got the 700x50 and 60kg rider 13 kg bike Zipp 303 firecrest rims tubeless

Hello . Great video and full of info. Any chance you know if these tires are hookless compatible? Many thanks

@MountainRoadRide

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! I haven't tested these tires on a hookless rim yet. My understanding is that the hookless rim manufacturers will specify which tubeless tires they recommend. To be 100% sure I'd suggest that you ask your wheel company first. That said, the tire bead of the Cinturato Gravel M tires are really well made. Very sturdy beads, and I don't see why they won't be a perfect candidate for hookless rims.

I have 35mm version for English mud and confirm they have tank like grip. I swap to H’s in summer

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

I liked these tires so much that I bought a set of 35mm Gravel Ms for my 700C wheelset. The combo of speed (from a narrower tire) plus the grip is amazing.

Will the fit a 23 mm rim?

Nice! Looking at these tires to replace my byway. Wonder if you're able to test them on some muddy trails too? Doesn't have to be deep slop, just some decent mud to be able to test wet performance as well. Now hunting the website of cheapest of these tires! 😊

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

I did test them out in the mud, but unfortunately didn't have the footage to add to the video. They are really good in mud! I mentioned this in my blog post (mountain-road.com/blog/pirelli-cinturato-50x650b-review) and there were times when I actually said "wow" out loud as the tires kept its grip on muddy slopes. I've been massively impressed.

@AltitudeAerials

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide thank you for the blog link! And you're the only youtuber that actually measure these with a caliper, most critical thing for us when buying online so that we don't end up with a brandnew tire that rubs on the frame. I'm currently running a 650b 2.1 kenda (which on the caliper is 51mm) and also have 25mm internal width of my rims so when u measured the cinturato that's it for me I'm getting a pair. Now just need to look for a website that has those skinwalls in stock in 50c! 😊

How does this compare to wtb's nano? Seems like close competitor???

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

They both fall into the aggressive tread category for sure. The Nanos only give you one width option (40mm), whereas Pirelli gives you 2 sizes with 650b and 3 sizes for 700c with the Cinturatos. I also think that the Nanos aren’t as good in very wet and muddy conditions since the knobs are much smaller compared to the Cinturato Gravel M. Nano might be a bit quicker in a straight line, but the Cinturatos give better cornering ability thanks to outer knobs.

How they feel in wet asphalt ?

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

I have no complaints when it comes to wet asphalt. They perform really well and provide excellent grip. Check out this video where I ride these tires over all kinds of surfaces including some roads that are very wet from melting snow: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5lnpc6TdajQgJM.html

I ride my 622-45 with 26 psi in the front and 30 psi in the back. It works at all terrain and speeds.

@romanshaposhnikov7073

Жыл бұрын

How much is your weight? I recently but the same tiers

@ihn

Жыл бұрын

@@romanshaposhnikov7073 122 kg

It's a shame the gravel tyre market limits itself to 47-50mm for the 650b option. There are plenty of bikes out there with up to 2.1-2.5" tyre clearance but left with only aggressive MTB tyre options. Manufacturers need to step up the tyre widths now!

@MountainRoadRide

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. The same goes for the other end of the spectrum - slick 650b tires. I could only find one manufacturer (Panaracer), that sells a

@ahmadzuhairi

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide I'm currently using the Schwalbe g-one speed 650bx2.35". The widest I can ever find so far. Not truly slicks but with 2mm micro knobs, its almost a slick.

@jeffservaas

2 жыл бұрын

@@MountainRoadRide Rene Herse also has a wide range of widths in 650b slick tyres.

@woutermertens6907

2 жыл бұрын

Continental Speed King 27.5 x 2.2" is a blazing fast tire with some slight knobs. Also the Schwalbe Thunder Burt 2.0" (old Liteskin, not the new Addix) is about as fast but with more grip. Both weigh about 100g less then most gravel tires. Sidewalls are very supple and they are very comfortable but just not great on puncture protection. I have both and other than Rene Herse I can't really find comparative alternatives

@ahmadzuhairi

2 жыл бұрын

@@woutermertens6907 I have wonderful experience with the Speed Kings. They are absolutely a joy to ride. Had a 100km ride with my roadie friends and the look on their faces when I easily kept up pace with them is priceless!

All tires put min bar too high, you can run them even with 1,3-1,4 bar and will be totally fine depending on your weight of course.

I think the Juniper Ridge would excel better on the gravel/pavement balance.

@wheelzandgillz

3 жыл бұрын

I want a pair of Rene Herses aka Gravelking Big Knobs baaaaad but man theyre spainsive!

Tread and thread are not interchangeable terms.

So, its a 27.5 x2.0 mtb tyre.... on a mtb wheel🙄 but on a not mtb cycle. Just get a mtb!

@MountainRoadRide

2 жыл бұрын

Close, but the wheel is non-boost. The best thing about this setup is that I can do a gravel race (like this - kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXxnmMOfYpnUYNo.html) and also ride trails (like this - kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ2lpcRuc7Onn5M.html) all with the same bike. If you can only have one bike, then the gravel bike gets close to doing it all.

@hellasboy8243

Жыл бұрын

Educate yourself

Cinturato.. a fragile delicate tire. Everybody is getting flats with them.

@Klips005

11 ай бұрын

BS