Pioneer TS-WX130DA Unboxing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKyMrqyhcZy7hNI.html

Thank you so much dear sir, it's really hard to find review that it's not rap hip hop or whatever. You have a very good setup!

Cant wait for the squeaks and rattles vid. I need cyclone cyd to show me how to stop the unfathomable and irratating saab plastics rattling against each other constantly

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

Unfathomable, yeah that about covers it. Those door casings are terrible - far worse than anything I ever worked on at Rover

Great explanation and setting guide. I was looking for someone to explain the settings but couldn't find one. Thanks so much! 🙂

I've got the factory fitted sub in my 93 sportwagon, sounds amazing and really rumbles.

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

I've never heard the factory 9-3 sub. Thanks

Great Video , Thanks for taking the time to do it

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Are you considering one?

Great video! I just installed one of these and I was wondering if you have any tips for setting the cutoff frequency and what the phase shift should be set on my pioneer head unit?

Hi. nice and completly review. I got the Pioneer tsWX130EA, it doesnt came with remote controler, neither LPF, so I bought one on aliexpress, simply to filter over 100 hz. I saw the graphs and I agree with cut it at 100. after all, speakers came up to 80hz.. so is a nice blend there. Another thing is the gain control. I review a lot of videos, and using a multimeter, I set it a little bit less than half way. And sounds really loud, so by the headunit I adjust the volume of the sub. So thanks for your review, it helps me a lot and helps me to improve my setting. Cheers from Chile.

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

I love classic rock music and love to hear good bass. However, bass is the foundation for the rest of the music, lead guitars, keyboards, vocals, cymbals etc. My son has a moster sub in his car but all you hear is the bass and not the rest of the music. I saw thunder live before the pandemic and they had the best live sound quality I've heard in quite a while. For sure, the bass pounded your chest (I was at the front) but the rest of the music and the vocals were crystal clear. It was fantastic. One of the things i love here on KZread is getting to talk gto people from all over the world. My Father in Law was in the English concert singers and they toured Mexico, Peru and Chile about 17 or so years ago. Most of S America is on my bucket list! I think you're the first who's ever mentioned being from Chile. So, a huge thank you from the UK. Enjoy and stay safe my fiend.

Great analysis, but special thanks for share this magnificent music band, now I'm big fan, cheers from Mexico.

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

Nico (lead guitar & vocals) has a hotel in Sidari Corfu. The band do a gig there on Wednesdays. It's a lovely spot and where I first met them. I'll let them know they've gained a fan in Mexico. Rock on!

@karenm6914

Жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd thanks!!!!

you did a great review. and because of this review, i'm going to install it. the same taste in music and the same review if i would do it. thank you.

Thanks for the 3 great videos. Because of u, I bought the Pioneer ts-wx400da. It's the in general lesser known but bigger brother of the 130da. I bought the stuff u used and followed your instructions, tried it in the boot of the 9-3 but found it to be lacking. I have a LHD so I put it on the passenger seat. Exact same experience, blown away by the amount of bass as well as the depth. Crazy good value. 1 thing to note though with the wx400da, it is quite a bit higher then the 130. It means u cannot put the seat in the furthest rear position so it's not completely ideal if u have passengers longer then 185 on that side. If u can live with that concession, the bass presence and Soundstage fill up is more then well worth it. So thank u for the videos again, it's day and night soundwise I cannot go back :). Now how to kill the rattle and plastic death traps... I fear the worst haha

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for taking the time to make that input. The compact size of the wx130da was one of it's attractive selling features. There's a bar goes across from one runner to the other for the fore aft mechanism and it just fits under that with less than a cm to spare. Yeah, those door trim rattles. Gggrrr, they make you wanna tear your ears off!

@DM-co4vh

3 жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd yeah that bar is whats in the way for a flush finish, luckily the sub is not that wide so I can live with that. The rattles seem to come from everywhere in my 2003 Vector. Besides the door panels, door handles en switches, under the dashboard, behind the center console and A pillars. Saab did address it somewhat in later years. Would interesting to find out if there is some tech info what measures they exactly take to solve it. Felt tape, better isolation of plastic vs metal parts, sound dampening... Looking forward to your suggestions👍.

Really helpful cheers!

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

After going back and forth for a day, I finally decided on this sub for my 14 fusion/mondeo. Did you consider the Infinity basslink mini or kenwood ksc-sw11? I had a hard time deciding. ultimately the speaker sensitivity and previous experience with pioneer leaned me towards this unit. Thank you for the informative video! you won me with the comparison chart.

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

I did consider the SW11. It's cheaper than the 130DA by quite a margin, but ultimately the written reviews I mentioned all rated the Pioneer above the Kenwood. No regrets here, it bolsters the music nicely (just gotta sort all the rattles now, lol)

Good review

question... if i use speaker inputs can they be in parallel with existing speakers so i dont loose the speakers in the car? cheers

@CycloneCyd

2 жыл бұрын

YES indeed. That's exactly the idea. The amps speaker inputs are high impedance so they only 'steal' a small amount of signal from the speakers (hardly noticeable). 👍

When you add another one under the other seat, then things get really bassy!

I've been considering buying such a sub for my Aygo.

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

I think it'd be great in the C1/107/Aygo. I did consider trying it in our C1, but wiring in and unwiring would have been a pain and anyway we've not upgraded the speakers (ours only has the dash units).

@antisoda

3 жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd I still have the original speakers, but I replaced the unit with my old Sony + an aftermarket DIN-thingy. The dash speakers in mine are of those tiiny tweeter ones and there's a filter down in there somewhere, so I've postponed upgrading them.

@lukesargent9413

2 жыл бұрын

did you fit one eventually? i have a 107 and was thinking of doing the same

@J_S591

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukesargent9413 We have an Aygo that has factory door speakers, dash speakers and tweeters. I’m installing one of these subs next week as personally I find the speakers can provide clarity but no base, so hoping this gives me what I want. Worst ways I’ll have to upgrade the two dash speakers, preferably don’t want to touch the doors just to save complexity. Wiring in is easy, I’ve already pulled all the wires in ready. There is a large rubber grommet sort of right hand side of centre of the bulkhead as you look down from the engine, which can be shared with the two heater matrix pipes that pass through there for the power wire to the battery. The cable can be seen poking through from the passenger footwell when you pull it in. Earth can be taken from a bolt fixing from one of the seats. Remote wise, we have an aftermarket pioneer stereo so it’s already pre-wired (with a Pioneer to Aygo adapter harness) for the remote wire, which easily drops down the back of the head unit and heater controls, poking out in a similar location as the power wire…same goes for the RCA’s. All wires can then be fed down through the centre console and under the seat.

Thanks for your review. Very informative. Can I ask what frequency you have settled on, on the remote? Unsure where to leave the dial between 50hz and 125hz. Thanks

@CycloneCyd

2 жыл бұрын

The dial isn't marked, but I have it on about 100Hz (about 2/3 the way round). What I did was select a rock track* with plenty of bass and used a sound analyser app to see where the bass from the fitted speakers starts to roll off (about 100Hz with my Hertz speakers) and then set the xover at that point. I've also got the gain set at about half way. I was only really looking to 'fill in' where the door speakers were lacking. It has lots mor oomph than I'm using, but I like to hear all the music, not just the bass. *summat from AC/DC, but can't remember which track

@chriswood1149

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd I originally had the gain turned all the way up but have since turned this down to half way like you said. When it was on full, I could hear the sub hum, when the music was turned all the way down. I do get a ‘pop’ when the ignition is first turned on.

@CycloneCyd

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswood1149 yeah, I get that pop too, but it happens when I unlock the car so I usually don't hear it.

Cyclone cyd backside bass 🤣💪. Good for piles 😆and yaa SAAB

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

😅

Hi, I took one of these to an audio fitter who told me he couldn’t get it to fit under the passenger seat, I drive a 2011 9-3 convertible, the seats height is adjustable and was set at its lowest point, my wife prefers it so, when I got home I realised this and raised the seat and whilst it would now fit under it was tight, did you have any similar issues ? Cheers

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

I have my seat about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way up. It fitted under okay, but I confess i did,'t try it with the seat at it's lowest. How high do you have the driver seat? maybe put it there? Never seen a 9-3 with a height adjustable passenger seat, was this something for verts only or did they start doing this 2009/2010 time?

@erichillyard

Жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd my 9-3 wagon doesn’t have adjustable passenger seat but its an ‘07, so maybe only later models, my drivers seat in the vert is nearly all the way up so would fit but prefer under passenger and Mrs will just have to have seat higher, only obstacle is what I presume to be heated seat / seat belt warning wiring, its chunky with a large socket at the end but should get away with it, also did you bolt sub to floor ? thanks for your response and keep up the good work. Your videos are extremely useful to a layman such as myself 👍🏻

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

@@erichillyard I put some double sided adhesive strips on the underside of my sub and just plonked it down on the carpet. It hasn't moved since. I also unclipped the big connector from the floorplan so I could reposition it Thanks 👍

Great musicians

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

Indeed they are. Fantastic live show too. They do a cracking rocked up version of Road to Hell (Chris Rea)

I am wondering how you attached the sub to the vehicle? I have been advised to bolt it to something solid, which makes solid engineering sense. Also there is some suggestion in the Pioneer blurb that it is designed to be down firing. I am not sure how possible that is in most cars but the underside of my VW van seat is a flat metal plate. Anyway it's on order. Looking forward to installing it. Thanks for the video's.

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

It does come with brackets so you can fix it to something solid (direct to floor, to seat frame etc etc) I don't remember seeing anything in the instructions about down firing - can't see how that would work. In my Saab this fits just nicely between the seat frame runners, so all I've done to 'fix' it in place is use some strips of self adhesive Velcro to stop it sliding back and forth. If your van floor is virtually flat metal, I would put an area of sound absorber on the metal before mounting the sub. two layers directly under the sub and extending a foot in all directions amzn.to/3Ap5vzq

@2rocship

Жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd really useful video thanks. With regards to fixing with velcro, do you mean just attaching it to the carpet? I’m thinking of buying one but I don’t like the idea of drilling holes into the floor beneath the chair. Attaching to the carpet sounds much more agreeable!

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

@@2rocship yes, exactly. Mine is just attached to the carpet. Double sided tape would do the same job.

@2rocship

Жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd excellent- I think I will order one

@CycloneCyd

Жыл бұрын

@@2rocship If you're able to order from this Amazon link amzn.to/38HHkzR, it will be a great way to support the channel at zero cost to yourself as I will earn 2.5% commission for the sales lead. 👍

Hi, did your car had the bose system unit?

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

NO. My car has the 2007 infotainment plus with 7 speakers. I have already upgraded to all Hertz speakers - scroll through the 'community' tab, I put some info in there a while ago.

@mutallibsheik3637

3 жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd oh ok, thank you

Is it worth putting in 2 or would 1 be enough?

@CycloneCyd

2 жыл бұрын

One is plenty for my liking. Why would you want two, unless you're trying to blow the doors off. Then you'd be missing most of the music

@Trapsarentgay133

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycloneCyd ah fair I thought it would give a richer sound but that makes sense

nice videoo

Why do you want more bass? How old are you

@DM-co4vh

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, besides making a completely moronic and rude comment which u should deserve to be roasted for till oblivion, u must have missed the part in the video where he said he needed something to fill out the lower sub ranges the door speakers could not reach.. Now go back to your mancave of shame and put 2 fingers in your ears for the rest of your life, "grown up"..

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing you didn't watch (or more precisely, listen to) the video

@CycloneCyd

3 жыл бұрын

Don't waste your breath, Mo. Trolls aren't worth the effort.

@bigjak7358

3 жыл бұрын

Too much bass is too much for a 30 year old

@ericperry72

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjak7358 you must listen to talk radio all day and night. I'm 49 and I have a full setup in both of my vehicles. I listen to jazz and a nice decent subwoofer creates a better sound. But of course your welcome to listen to your talk radio and complain about what other adults do with their time and money.