Pinzgauer vs L300 vs Haflinger vs Perentie at wombat holes Bylong Creek
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
At MogFest 2017 all sorts of vehicles show up.
Unfortunately our Wombat (the L300) wasn't completely ready for it as I battled a few major flaws in my airbag system. So was the endless air spitting oil and there were air leaks just about anywhere.
I was amazed the wombat actually made it that weekend, although shorty and dragging its belly at any little protrusion.
I am glad to say most problems have been tackled now. Looking forward to be back one day to show how the van behaves at 150 psi without air leaks.
Was a fantastic weekend, with great people and amazing meals.
Thanks to anyone involved!
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Love the fact that the Pinz is still wearing Austrian Army markings! And the Haflinger is just awesome. Greetings from Vienna!
@user-my6wu9ld4u
10 ай бұрын
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Takes me back to my younger days when a friend owned and drove a Haflinger No body knew what a Haflinger was back then and its top speed on the highway wasn't all that great - indeed I remember the times when at high speeds we were regularly being passed by snails - but boy did we have fun with it.
The first time I saw a Pinzgauer I had no idea what it was, but knew that I wanted one.
@dirkmeinhardt289
3 жыл бұрын
The Austrians stopped the production in the middle of the 90's. Because they used VW LT Engines. And VW stopped the LT for the Daimler Sprinter/VW Crafter. As I know, the production of the Pinzgauer was continued at the UK for the british Army. At first with the Rest of the VW Engines, afterwords, with other Engines, now 4Cylinders...(sorry for my bad english! )
Love a pinzgauer, used to drive 6 wheeled ones in the army
Nice to see the austrian military vehicles in Australia! Greetings from the birth-place of all the Puch’s...! Greetings from Austria!
@davidburgstaller7804
4 жыл бұрын
austrian quality built in graz
@inevitablecraftslab
4 жыл бұрын
und vom stronach heinzi verscherbelt
Wow look at the haffie go! Fantastic thanks
Just clicked at this because of the thumbnail :D Greetings from Austria!
Everybody knows the qualitys from Haflinger and Pinz....but...respect for the Mitsubishi !!!
Great flex on the Perentie. Front and rear maxi lockers and it will be unstoppable with all the torque.
the Mitsubishi Van really impressive!
@duggydugg3937
4 жыл бұрын
Joe Ng I want the mitz
@franktechmaniac7488
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I didn't get the meaning of the remarks with 70 psi due to leaks in the system. Can't be the tyre pressure ...
@TheAwast2
3 жыл бұрын
@@franktechmaniac7488 Probably ARB Diff Locks they run with compressed air
Loved driving the pinzgauer when I was in the air force . What a machine . And I never knew those Mitsubishi space wagon things were so capable off road . I always thought they look like you could tip it over with a sneeze . Awesome vid mate
Great work Martin. I like the Mitsubishi as well cause it is not an army vehicle but it still does the job
A vallent effort fr the L300 4x4, and a marvelous job by the defender
Awesome ✌️ think I liked the first one best 😁
Land Rover Has won. So many pinz fan boys. The pinzgauer isn't bad, but it's more for mud and going fast on bumpy surfaces. Honor to those who deserve it. And I say that as an Austrian.
I rented one of those Haflingers for a week and took it into the Welsh mountains, the thing was like a goat!!
The Pinzgauer STILL rocks!
Great video! Would have loved to see a 6x6 Pinzgauer for comparison. I don't the opportunity to do mud here in Arizona.
Greatings from Austria! Nice to see😊
@MartinVanMan
9 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks!
i first saw the steyr-daimler-puch pinzgauer in a four wheeler magazines from the eighties , i think it was . they do really well off road because they appear to have a lot of wheel travel . the wheels can drop into a hole and get some traction instead of just hanging in the air . there is another vehicle i saw in a four wheeler magazine that is a lot like the pinzgauer , it is called the volvo cross-country
@nygelmiller5293
3 жыл бұрын
To Warren Buchanan, funnily enough mentioning that Volvo did a vehicle influenced by the Pinzgauer - I was looking on the internet about a Soviet company called ZAZ.They were also influenced by the HAFLINGER! They did a copy, and of course, it ALSO looked great! But I don't think it of course had Portal works - ,(either Portal refers to the differentials or axles).This involves the diff somehow being ABOVE an axle, rather than being a bulge IN the axle, thus hampering ground clearance! Only the Steyr-Puch Haflinger and Pinzgauers had this unique arrangement- so they reign supreme, of course! They must have patented the design, because nobody else has it.
@warrenbuchanan2718
3 жыл бұрын
@@nygelmiller5293 there is also one russian company called "GAZ" that builds trucks . they copied the ford A and AA trucks before WW2 and the russian army used them in WW2 . i made a mistake in my comment . the test of the volvo cross-country would have been in a four wheeler magazine issue from between 1976 and 1982 i think . i became interested in in cars when i was 12 or 13 , and my father started buying me magazine subscriptions , like car and driver , road & track , and four wheeler . the volvo looks almost exactly like the pinzgauer but it doesnt have a diesel engine , it said in the test it uses the gas inline 6 that they use in their cars . a while back i googled searched " volvo cross country " but it only showed the station wagon car they built recently that they also call the cross country . if you like reading about off road trucks there is a book , my father bought me it when i young , it is called " the observers book of fighting vehicles " , published by the olyswager corporation . i'm not sure if i spelled the name correctly . it is a small book and it is not shaped like most books it is wider than it is tall , like a car owners manual . it has a lot of pages though . you may be able to find a used one on ebay . there was a czechslovakian company called "tatra " that was building trucks when WW2 broke out and i guess the germans captured the factory because they used tatra's . they built some heavy cargo trucks that had independent front suspension i think they were the only company that did . of course , they did'nt put i.f.s. on them for ride or handling , i would'nt think , they did it to improve off-road traction . in that book it shows probably every brand of truck that was used in WW2
@nygelmiller5293
3 жыл бұрын
@@warrenbuchanan2718 from Nygel Miller Thanks for replying to my comment! The publisher you mentioned does go back a long way, I remember it is called OYLSLAGER (with L in the middle), rather than OYLSWAGER.
@warrenbuchanan2718
2 жыл бұрын
that book i was telling you about is called " the observers fighting vehicles directory WW2 " , by bart h. vanderveen . there are at least 4 of them for sale on ebay right now . the one i have is the one that has a tan / yellow truck on the front cover . you should get one , you will like it . it has like 1000 pictures and some are like the factory drawings of a vehicle
Impressed by the L300 !!!
Always loved Haflinger
Never seen the Haflinger Pinz, really cool.
@nygelmiller5293
3 жыл бұрын
No my friend, not a Haflinger Pinzgauer. They are TWO separate models. The tiny one is the Haflinger , and the big one is the Pinzgauer! These are named after HORSES by the way, and were made by Austrian company Steyr-Puch.
Brilliant job guys
While I am a HUGE fan of European engineering: Pinzgauer, Unimog, with the Haflinger I am reminded of the Japanese KEI mini pickups.
bad ass amazing pinzgauer. Mitzi ain't bad either parente is just a bleeping tank
Haflingers were sold in the U.S. at one time (probably briefly) and I chanced to see one. Didn't drive it or examine it very closely, just a walk-around. At the time, I was driving a short wheelbase Land-Rover wagon (estate car). The trick to going anywhere with a 4x4 is to pick your road very carefully. I would never have attempted anything like these vehicles are doing.
Cool haflinger flat bed golf cart
The Haflinger was very impressive. Did it perform part of the task in 2 WD? It's an amazing vehicle.
@doctorcubic5396
8 ай бұрын
Just like the Pinzgauer it has 4 wheel drive and both lockable differentials that can be engaged during the ride without stopping
that L300 has big balls man ,,, 10 outa 10
Pinzgauer is such a boss, the only thing more impressive might be a Unimog.
@High_Desert_Tanner
4 жыл бұрын
I think I like the Pinz better to be honest
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
@@High_Desert_Tanner unimog is a more capable off roader. The diesel engine makes it super durable
@wp8022
3 жыл бұрын
@@dieselgeezer18 Honestly, I tend to disagree. The Unimog is more of a truck, but the Pinzgauer will beat it off the road.
@pfarraldcash6095
Жыл бұрын
@@wp8022 I do not believe that. the Unimog has larger tires and, thanks to the Solid axle and coil spring, plus a very flexible frame , much better axle articulation.
@wp8022
Жыл бұрын
@@pfarraldcash6095 In the end, it depends on the terrain. Whilst you are absolutely right about the solid axles, bigger tires and frame on the Unimog, the Pinzgauer is much more maneuvrable and way lighter, which in some situations definitely is an advantage.
lovely video!
That van is more rowdy than a lot of jeeps lol
Well I am impressed with the skill and guts, I would maybe try it in a Leo2
Cool vid.. thanks👍
Dankie jan ek het dit geniet xxxx
Just need a Volvo c303 to join in now!
The Defender was amazing!
The L 300 did very well.
Do foaht die Stobsbattrie!
Thank you for unedited sound hehe, love to hear the diesels
@stevenr2463
3 жыл бұрын
Actually Im not sure the Puchs are diesels.
Пинцгауэр просто создан для Костромских дорог! 💪💪💪
I like the side by side
Love the wombat, great technical driving. I'd love to own one but it's very hard to find one in europe
@ghcatzen
6 жыл бұрын
i can search u one
@MartinVanMan
5 жыл бұрын
There are a few running around in The Netherlands!
@borsh2002
5 жыл бұрын
@@ghcatzen what price would have the wombat?
@Zachry86
5 жыл бұрын
Lots of them in Norway. Or they are becoming a bit more rare now as they are quite old. But still no problem to get a hold of them
If the terrain is too difficult for a mule or a goat, you have to take a Haflinger.
The holes have.to be gigantic when a big vehicle like the Pinzgauer nearly rolls over
Great vids you have , Is the perentie on standard suspension ? , I think mine might be a bit stiff to do that , Time will tell tho ,
@katalist7747
4 жыл бұрын
Compared to regular 110’s the perentie has a +50mm stock lift and the springs are bolted in place, defender springs have a tendency to jump out of the cradles when flexing too hard
Pinzgauer is more a truck than a car, so comparison is unfair since it has much higher ground clearance! Is like to compare it with Unimog or Tatra 8x8 truck!
Could use softer suspension on that thing
Einfache Konzepte sind oft auch mit extremem Hightec nicht zu schlagen!
This is best for house 🏠 hold work. If i have a money i will buy that truck. I like first and third truck. ❤️
What was the strategy in running the Pinz and the Hafi in twin lock? Both of these vehicles have 3 locking diffs.
@franktechmaniac7488
4 жыл бұрын
"Twin locked" means locked in both directions (longitudinal and transverse locks engaged).
The ol haflinger is well oiled
well done to the guy in the mitzi , well driven.
0:06 what about that big croc on the left pretending to be a rock ..
Great vid this one! though the Pinzgauer and the Haflinger would have more wheel travel? very surprised that they don't have more?
@forestalfrank1074
6 жыл бұрын
You only get more if you have some weight on the back. Its a Light Truck after all.
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
No need for wheel travel when you have 3 diff locks
@franktechmaniac7488
4 жыл бұрын
The central frame with portals doesn't allow more wheel travel. The landy need wide axle articulation due to its poor awd (no axial locks).
Hey Martin. What engine does Wombat has ? Thanks :)
@MartinVanMan
6 жыл бұрын
The Wombat runs with its original 2.4 l petrol engine (16 valve).
Was the defender running standard centre different lock or did it have lockers in axles?
@MartinVanMan
5 жыл бұрын
Chris, the Perentie had only the centre diff lock at the time of this video. The rear diff has been updated since with an auto locker though :-)
Pinzgauer is the best one - no doubt!
If that small little truck can do everything,forget about even a Toyota
It can be deadly to have the plan opened at the back by the Pinzgauer, because the smoke of the of the motor get pulled back in to the vehicle...
Lockers are impressive on ridged trucks but its alot less scary with proper articulation like the defender
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
Since when do defenders have proper wheel travel?
@franktechmaniac7488
4 жыл бұрын
Wheel travel doesn't help on slippery or very loose surface. Checkout the hellklamm videos here on yt.
Land Rover , best axle articulation without major modification. Diffs , hmmm not so good.
I was thinking of portals on my CJ7 and sammi, but if it doesn't allow any flex then that idea is in the trash. These had soooooo little droop🤨
And the winners are ...Land Rovers and Delica van.
Guy driving the wombat wasn't what you would call smooth
What are the tires that are used on the Haflinger? Does it also have a different engine than stock?
@RONAEMVCS
6 жыл бұрын
The Haflinger has a Toyota motor.
@emmajacobs5575
5 жыл бұрын
@Bez Bizara What? I thought Haflingers had a little 700cc flat twin petrol engine.
@klami75
5 жыл бұрын
Emma Jacobs you’re right!!
@philhealey449
4 жыл бұрын
@@emmajacobs5575 That was certainly Mr Hubnuts opinion recently , why would it have a 6 cylinder motor in something weighing 400 kg?
@pinzgauerbelgium
4 жыл бұрын
@@RONAEMVCS i think the haflinger uses a DAF flat 2 engine uses in the DAF 33/ 44 ?
Fahrzeuge with character!
thats bad ass i want one
so much more impressive with open diffs
This is what roads are like in Edmonton.
Ok. let's do it again only this time under an artillery barrage.
What engine is in the Haflinger ????
@AlpineKris
3 жыл бұрын
In original configuration it's a 0.648 ltr twin aircooled boxer, pushing out 22 HP. Empty weight is ~ 600 kg, max load 400 kg... can go up 65% ..
wombat is the star ,,,,
@pete_boy71
5 жыл бұрын
lol..ironie off...
@Charlie_..
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you want a car, which is also for normal roads... but 4 outdoor use, austrian offroad technology still rocks... though its over 40 years old...
Looks like Wombat has lockers. VERY cool!!! Lockers on Defender??
@tomthompson7400
6 жыл бұрын
wouldnt stop it rusting
@AndreasBrOlesen
5 жыл бұрын
The defender did it with no lockers. The defender rely on extreme wheel articulation instead.
@heiligerjesus1960
5 жыл бұрын
@@AndreasBrOlesen more like relying on brute force pushing it through. Also im pretty sure this defender wasnt stock. A stock defender really isnt nowhere near as good offrpad as any other vehicle in this video
@franktechmaniac7488
4 жыл бұрын
ben walker please explain how to overcome a lack of friction (on slippery or loose ground) by large axle articulation. The puchs still move with only one wheel having traction.
Land rover is the only one with articulating wheels
no belttttttttt !!!!
Pinz for the winz!
That thing is a fucking beast
Amazing how affordles the Pinzgauer goes through Wow The others have to fight Pinzgauer like "Nah I'm good" 😅
Нету лучше велика чем Мицубиси делика
would get one -- however its always economics parts for pinzzys are pricey as well for Volvo C303 and the other military vehicles might as well if you own one have a full machine shop otherwise stick with in country 4x4's--Mitsu Delica's parts are becoming more plentiful and never buy a new Landrover/Rangerover get used
Why to drive on this lousy road, when you can go around?
@MartinVanMan
3 жыл бұрын
It's there to test your vehicle so you know what it does before you end up on a track like that without any options
Da sieht man mal was für ein Verschränkungswinkel der Defender hat. Gegenüber dem Haflinger Klar im Vorteil.
@pfarraldcash6095
Жыл бұрын
Und der Toyota zum Schluss erst gut der ist modifiziert. Aber so viele Leute loben den pinz über den Klee, obwohl ein landy auch ein super Fahrzeug ist. Vielleicht ist das auch politisch motiviert....
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Hay quá
хахаха, да я тут на девяточке проеду!
No one is talking about the flexible defender , better than the new shitbox by JLR!
lucky the land rover didnt rust away before it got out of the wet bit.
@harveysmith100
3 жыл бұрын
Now now.
@jdenmark1287
3 жыл бұрын
It’s got a galvanized chassis and aluminum body. Where I come from they had to recall tens of thousands of Tacomas and T100’s and Tundras because the rear chassis and bumpers dissolved during our winters.
I'd take pencg. Any day.
The amazing car
Where is perentie in this video? Nice video with wrong heading.
@MartinVanMan
5 жыл бұрын
The Perentie drives up and down, starting from 3:45
Guys I liked them all,but the Land Rover is the winner
@ashh6540
4 жыл бұрын
Landrover wouldn't of made it through the first ditch. I train military landrovers and pinzgauers and the pinzs clears things that the landrovers constantly fail at.
@ashh6540
4 жыл бұрын
@ben walker rarely use the diff locks on the pinz on our off road course and it still goes places the land rover can't. Far better suspension to keep wheels on the ground and even when they do come off it still passes power to the other wheels regardless. Unlike the landrover. Landrovers do have their uses. But they are not as good as some of the rose tinted spectacle wearing followers think they are.
@joshuabrown9398
4 жыл бұрын
@@ashh6540 pretty clear from this vid and many others on yt that pinz have quite poor flex. Independent suspension almost always has articulation limitations, look at the hummer h1 or the trucks in this vid. The fact of the matter is that the landy kept its wheels on the ground for longer, so with lockers it would fair even better. However there is more to offroad than just flex such as clearance, tyre size, balance etc.
@ashh6540
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuabrown9398 I drive both vehicles for a living and the pinz can do things and get over things the landrover can't, and I prove it time and time again. I don't get my results from watching videos, I actually go out and try it.
Like a zaz 969 Ukrainian little car 4x4
Amazing mitsubishi L300 Cheapest car
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Миниатюрная Татра))
Scott Kelby
@Impuritan1
5 жыл бұрын
Kerry King
even with bad drivers the austrian cars are the best by far ha ha just think when they were developed-decades ago! puch is still the best-look at the puch g...(mercedes for germans lol)
@kradius2169
4 жыл бұрын
... Some of us here in the States would gladly trade back Arnie to Graz for a next gen Puch. ... Deal? _
Где ЛУАЗ ?
@MartinVanMan
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry! Please translate to English 🙏