Better put the Mouser Electronics Logo on Rear, it's the only place people will have enough time to see it...

Suggestion: Name your new wing Biggus Dickus. As you said, size matters, and you ought to pay homage to that.

Bit of a Crocodile Dundee moment with the wings comparison there!😂

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Yep. That’s what Tim thought too.😆 “That’s not a spoiler.”

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665

11 күн бұрын

I half expected him to walk on with a Porsche whale 🐳 tail... damn 😂 🧙🏼‍♂️😉

I love how you make not boring electric cars, really great work you do for us car enthusiasts and for the environment

@nathansmith7153

11 күн бұрын

There are plenty of "not boring" electric cars, even my Bolt blows off ICE cars

@maxiferrari08

11 күн бұрын

@@nathansmith7153 yes I know, but race cars and exotic electric cars are on another level off "not boring". I even find the electric smart fortwo not boring or a vw e-up. But electric race cars are unfortunately rare (for now)

@arthemis1039

11 күн бұрын

@@nathansmith7153 I think he means that they build EV fun cars with real power without going for the high tech iPad on wheel trend.

@stephen300o6

11 күн бұрын

Not boring is defined by what?

@maxiferrari08

11 күн бұрын

@@stephen300o6 by my standards, everyone has another definition of not boring

Looking very good, best part for me? The horn grilles !

You guys deserve to race Pikes Peak. I hope for next time!

1K HP Bug is a miracle of modern technology

The word 'bonkers' was invented just for this car

love it - but time to get it going Moggie. Wrap gives great flexibility in graphics but i do think the sort of spherical shape of the roof may make that extremely difficult however the sides and the flatter panels not a problem. The added benefit is the wrap takes and withstands stone chips a lot better than paint does.

I was imaging more of an oversized 911 style whale tail, but I don't have a 1000hp VW to keep on the ground. Your wing is presumably going to need chassis attachments with the forces involved, it will be fascinating to see where this goes. Like a few other people in the comments I am also a Mouser customer. I look forward to the next installment...

Hi Richard, great update with lots of detail on the”Tweaks” you are making as you develop the design. You may be the Boos, but you own the technical details of this car.. your own Beetle is a crazy machine, but this is on another level ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😎

Crocodile Dundee: Little white wing. "You call that a wing?" Big black wing. "Now that's a wing!"

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

😂😂 I said exactly that when we shot that scene. 👍

I would keep the front radiator as high as possible to protect it from anything flying to the front of the car. I would just add "guide" in front of it to direct the air upward... I would use wrap instead of paint as it works better with fibreglass being smooth vs. metal that has imperfections for paint to stick on...

Ha ha love the Spinal Tap reference "up to 11."

That race car is the bee(tle's) knees! I wish you every success at getting a slot in the NEXT Pike's Peak Hill Climb. That place was tailor-made for EVs! Aloha!

Love that you're trying to make it as beetle as you can. I love the grills over the holes in the front. So this thing won't be street legal? Darn..

With the new wing, the tail looks ready to wag the dog. I wonder what Spud's views are? I LIKE the extra Beetle touches you have planned.

Really enjoying this series and looking forward to seeing it disappear off the line. Paint or wrap: have you thought of peel paint? It could make repairing any ‘rubs’ much easier - perhaps you could invite DYC to collaborate?

Have you thought about putting a splitter in the front? Having an airdam is more useful if the underside of the car is very rough, but if you want downforce, you want to increase the speed of the air going under the car so that the pressure is reduced - ground effect. Also, for spoilers vs wings and aero in general, Julien Edgar has some great content on KZread.

Wrap, custom color PPF.

Sad news about Pikes Peak Moggy. Plenty of show boating to be done and some 1/4 mile action this year though. 😉⚡️🏁

Looking forward to seeing it in action

The paint/wrap Q. Surely that simply comes down to which one will be the heaviest. You need the lightest.

awe when aero came up I just pictured a 84 whale tail sticking off the back ..

@georgepelton5645

11 күн бұрын

Me too. I think a 125% scale Porsche 911 whale tail would be perfect for this car. The one they plan to use is a bit too much, IMO.

I love Mouser! When my eyes were good enough I used to build synthesiser modules for eurorack systems, and Mouser were my go to organisation for components. Good pricing and speedy delivery. As for the wipers, it’s a Pike Peak car, so better put some on the side windows! 😎

Great to see the progress. You could always “dip” your car. Plenty of KZread videos from “dip your car”.

Have used Mouser for years. Good to see them sponsoring you.

I vote for wrap. If you get bored of it or you want/need to change the colour it would be easier, I think.

Congratulations on the sponsorship! Mouser is legit!

Sorry you missed 2024 Pikes Peak. As you observed, you’ll have a year to sort the car and get it stuck in UK mud a few times first. Need to better Audi R8 racer time!

To prep that fiberglass shell for paint is very time consuming, yes its a race car so quality isn't as important, but a wrap just makes sense and you have all the options available to make a really funky design.

My partner is a power electronics engineer (phd), and saw me watching the video you made awhile back about Mouser and said he uses them as well as they are the best quality...

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

That’s good to hear. 👍😀

Awesome and outstanding as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I can't wait to see this epic car completed and ready to race , great job so far 👍🚗

Aerodynamics, drag coefficient, cooling, braking and handling. Looking forward to trial runs with all the gear on. Thanks for the simple explanations. Hopefully some before and after numbers to compare each, then combined refinement.

A few years from now when we have much denser batteries and hub motors this build will suddenly look so old-fashioned. I can't wait for ultra fast hub motors to replace the need for axels

@maxiferrari08

11 күн бұрын

Hub motors are great, but I think for a racecar the unsprung mass of them are counterproductive. On the other side gokarts have no suspension at all and are fast as hell, so definitely worth a try

@woodyw6891

11 күн бұрын

Porsche had front hub motors on his 1898 model.

@James_T_Quirk

8 күн бұрын

@@woodyw6891 I Believe the Aptera uses twin front hub motors ...

Absolutely awesome guys! Hopefully the sponsor allows you to do as you please with your Car. Can't wait for that track test 👍

Most racecars in the US are mostly wrapped to ease repairs. Also, you should consider a bigger front splitter, you need good downforce on the front too!

It's looking great, I'm really looking forward to the final look. It is going killer.

Another great show!!! I am a little bummed that you will not be a Pikes Peak this year. I was definitely looking forward to seeing you guys. Fingers crossed for next year =)

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Hopefully 2025 👍👍🇺🇸

I truly hope you would consider the next running of the Mount Washington Climb to the Clouds. Whilst Pikes gets all the love, Mt Wasgington is LEGENDARY. David Higgins has been looking for a ride to help reclaim his title, perhaps he would wheel for you. I implore you. Watch Travis Pastranas record setting Mt Washington run on KZread. Hope to see you in New Hampshire, USA

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

David Higgins is my neighbour, maybe I’ll mention it to him 👍👍🇺🇸

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Now that’s tempting. 😎👍

@GoTakeADrive

10 күн бұрын

@spudproductions7606 tell Mr Higgins that a fan from New Hampshire would like to see him snatch his title back from Travis Pastrana!

Wrap, not paint, which will make for easier panel repair/replacement.

Would love to see that on a 914

Don't forget to put some front indicators on the top of those wings. They might cost some air flow problems but will help with the look and also judging the width of the front when driving.

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Great idea. Maybe some early ones that are slimline. 👍

Fantastic! Keep it up. Looking forward to more episodes.

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍👍

The car is going to look amazing!!

Kids in a sweet shop! Love it!

Something to look out for is the rear radiator ducting may have different inlet pressures because one is rammed and the other is a naca. The naca may have lower pressure and could turn in to an outlet. You probably have enough flow through the top.....

As it's all big grp clamshells i wonder if paint would be flexible enough. Like you say, beetles look a pain to wrap though.

Very cool! Super clean build! That new wing is bonkers! Love your videos!

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Tim fits like a glove 👍

Great to see an update on the Bug

i did see in wheeler dealers thare is a wrap they spray on the car, and they can peel it off to and reyouse it. think it's interesting. This way you can change the color easy and hope it's easy to put on sponsers as well. looking forward to this racecar 🙏

"Lightning Bug"

What a great car!!! 😍😍😍😍😍

With those wheels, a black and gold paint job similar to the JPS liveries would look awesome! Might not work with your new sponsor though.

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

JPS is cool 👍👍😀

Given the amount of downforce, that monster rear wing needs to be mounted to the tubular frame, not just the fiberglass shell! Looking forward to the next update.

@ElectricClassicCars

10 күн бұрын

It’s definitely getting mounted to the frame and not to the fibreglass body. 😉👍

I did paint for a few years and I would wrap it. If you get good people, that car won't be a problem. Just make sure the paint under the wrap is good.

Love your work, Richard 👍

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

Bring the zapper to simola hill climb south africa next year

Please give it to Misha Charoudin to take round the Nurburgring (and take it yourself) it will be great content

@ElectricClassicCars

7 күн бұрын

Great idea 👍

Wrap or paint, it doesn’t really matter. I would add the chrome trim as much as possible to make it even less fun cup.

Pikes Peak, would that be the one in Colorado - I was up there last year - snow and hail in June !!!

You vs the wing she told you not to worry about.

When will it be at Loton? Paint - it's lighter than wrap(?) and your local guy IIIRC from VV is decent.

Wrap it!

I wonder about the aero balance of the car with that wing. Are you looking at a bigger splitter on the front or anything to reduce front lift? A bigger splitter might also help create a bigger high pressure zone in front of the front radiator and help move air through it. Another option, or an additional one might be to vent the front rad up through the hood... sorry "bonnet".

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Good points. 👍

Great sponsor. congrats.

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍👍😀

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Wrap

Wahey. I'll fit in now (6ft 1). When can I come down and have a go in it?

for pikes peak you may need a defroster for your windscreen

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Good point. 👍

@jamesray9009

11 күн бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars and or treated with water repellant

She looks good

I wonder if straight line speeds would benefit from a DRS mechanism in that giant wing

Just because of this, I’m ditching Digikey and will only use Mouser

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Wise move 👍😀

Nice rear lights, where did you get them? 😉 Did you pinch the rear wing from Red Bull, it looks like it should have DRS for overtaking 😅

Cheers guys

You could easy wrap that car Richard

Richard you gotta follow TopGear and no Geoff Buys Cars and Mac Master and take the two Ferrari. Teslarossas over the Milleu Bridge . See if you can hire a licenced drone to film it. ❤🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

You know manufacturers often add artificial noises to electric (and sometimes petrol!) cars? You should add the noises from Airwolf, IMO.

Regarding Paint Verses Wrap, which is Lighter ?

I want one ! just out of interest, can those be made road legal ? Oh and sorry to hear about the Pikes Peak being fully booked this year.

I love this. Are you at Supercar fest this year?

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

I’m not sure. When is it?

@darrensimon6181

11 күн бұрын

Next weekend 18th and 19th sywell aerodrome.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you've got a lot of work to do to make that rear wing work! The hardest trick with downforce which scales with the square of speed is trying to get a decent front to rear balance.. All the things you do at the front absolutely need to be balanced by similar forces at the front. You wing is way out back so is actually going to move the centre of pressure (and centre of drag) waaayyyyy back as speed increases.. Now, some rearward movement is useful, because you can set the car up to be a bit more "Pointy" in slow speed turns, and then to increasingly push into understeer at higher speed, which is what suits most normal drivers, esp as with DF, any Yaw destroys that DF, which makes crashing something that can occur in an instant! Unfortunately, getting positive DF at the front is going to be very hard indeed, especially to balance that massive rear wing (of course PP race is at high alt, so low ave air density, so the wing isn't as big as it would be for sea level events). You're going at a minimum to want a front splitter about 5 times the size of the one one you have now, and the downside of that is the car will now become incredibly sensitive to changes in rake (and dynamic changes in rake, ie during braking etc) The only way you'll get a balanced chassis is to concentrate on the underfloor aero but unfortunately this is really difficult to get right and hugely sensitive to setup changes. If you can afford a wind tunnel session, then at least you can get some baseline data to start with, but "Just guessing" with aero, esp underfloor aero really doesn't work. PP is a very high average speed (>75mph) track and unfortunately as an amateur team / driver, it's very very hard to get something with a high DF to mass ratio set up and working correctly, as crashing the thing whilst trying to get it all working is a very very real posibility, and you have little experience of driving a high aero assistance car i guess. Given you have a 4wd car, and a high power to mass ratio, personally i'd either completely ditch the aero for your year one attempt (or scale it back, or make sure it is easy to remove), as IME it's going to be more of a hinderance than a benefit unless you can really spend a lot of time testing, ideally in a wind tunnel, but at worst on a test track with some proper instrumentation (ie load sensors etc) The other thing you are absolutely going to need to do is to work out how you are going to repeatibly precondition the battery and force cool the battery and motors. Towards the end of the track, when you are very high (finish line is at 14,110 feet!) your LTRs are going to be fairly useless and your motors and particularly your inverters will be cooked as they have a low thermal inertia. Mostly people use some form of phase change evaporative cooling (ie CO2) as this is going to be the best bet in terms of mass penalty and low cost, and you probably can't get your inverters or motors cool enough at the start tbh The battery will be a trade off, it has high thermal inertia, so you'll find there is an optimum starting temperature that will be slightly too cold to start with, hit perfect temp in the middle of the run, then go overtemp towards the end. Make sure you can precondition to this temp before your runs, ie you need specific pit equipment and cooling system dry breaks etc to do this. Anywhich way, you're gonna have a lot of fun, and PP gets under your skin, no matter what you are driving!! (PS i was on the engineering team of the VW IDR, which as you probably know was quite quick at PP 😉 )

@spudproductions7606

9 күн бұрын

Thanks, that’s good advice. Sounds like we have plenty to work on. 👍😀

@ElectricClassicCars

9 күн бұрын

Great feedback. Thanks a lot. The IDR is an awesome piece of engineering. 👍👍👍

@ElectricClassicCars

9 күн бұрын

We’re definitely planning on a bigger splitter at the front but for that we’ll have to wait until we get it into the wind tunnel. At 130 mph a Beetle has 120kg of lift at the rear axle from our previous wind tunnel time, which is a lot more than most cars, hence the big wing at the back, to overcome this lift AND give it some down force instead. Unlike a lot of cars a Beetle starts with a terrible rear end lift problem at high speeds.

@maxtorque2277

8 күн бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars yup IDR was a pretty mad project to develop! One thing you might want to look at is having a reasonably dynamic basic Front / rear Torque split. On IDR we actively measure tyre normal load (through load cell on spring unit) and dynamically apportion torque to each axle based on trying to keep the torque ratio the same as a the normal force ratio at that moment in time, ie to acheive a constant tyre slip value at either end of the car, where that slip is speed and handwheel angle dependant. So for example as you accel hard at low speed, the torque moves backwards to avoid excessive front tyre slip, and when you brake, particularly at high speeds where the increase chassis rake moves the aerodynamic CoP right forwards, you can hugely ramp up the front regen, whilst still keepign slip consistant which is key for driver confidence. In this way you are effectively using all of your tyre mU at all times

@maxtorque2277

8 күн бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Ambient pressure at PP is on average 30% lower than at sea level, so lift is comensurally less, and as aero forces are square of velocity, you'll find that the lift might not be as much of an issue as you may think.. Not sure what your static mass is (guessing around 900kg with driver?), static split looks to be about 45R/55R at a guess with your battery location, so lets say 500kg static on rear axle, so realistically at the sort of typical critical ave cornering speeds at PP (~80mph), you'd be looking at ~32kg of lift and a reduction in grip of just 6%.

Do you have to register that car with the DVLA, if you are only running it on race tracks? Also what do you have to do when you take the car abroad to Pike Peak? What are the legal requirements?

At what speed would each of the Rear Wing and the Defusor start to have an effect?

what's sad as much fun as I would have in that bug . at 6'2 with a bad left leg Im still not getting in that way hahaha .. I still waiting on hitting the lottery then its on .. goal turn grandpas ElCo former daily driver into a right hand all wheel drive 1000 hp 67 ELectrified Camino .. As a non pureist this kinda resto mod .. I'M GONNA START FIGHTS AT CAR SHOWS hahaha

Size dose matter 😂

Any reason why you need such serious brakes instead of relying mostly on regen braking and one-foot driving? Is this setup better suited for racing?

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

Because when the battery is full you get no regen, plus turning regen off when racing gives the battery more chance to cool down. 👍

@maxiferrari08

11 күн бұрын

Regen braking generates a lot of heat in the motor, batteries and controller, so I think you definitely need normal brakes assisted by regen

@beinghappy1312

11 күн бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Thanks for the reply. That's the only thing I dislike about my EV is how when I have a full battery suddenly stopping it is different because it turns off regen until it loses some power

@beinghappy1312

11 күн бұрын

@@maxiferrari08 That's a shame. From a driving perspective doing almost everything from just the throttle makes it much easier

Hello guys

Aeroplane wing lol

Shelsey Walsh hill climb ? Oldest....

#ecc Can you use the knobs and switches with your helmet and gloves on?

@ElectricClassicCars

9 күн бұрын

Yes, absolutely

Liquid cooling on a body that was originally designed around an air cooled engine = probably not very fun to get it all working right

@ElectricClassicCars

11 күн бұрын

It’s a challenge, that’s for sure. But we love a challenge. If we didn’t, we would have picked a different car to a Beetle to turn into a race car. 😉👍

Paint

What is the item on the post in blue. Are you going to make it legal for your roads?

@ElectricClassicCars

3 сағат бұрын

Not sure what you’re referring to. What is the timestamp?

Obvious, the bigger wing needs to be black ...

4x4 perhaps...it is isn't it?

@spudproductions7606

11 күн бұрын

Yes, 4 wheel drive. 👍😀

@daviddenley3512

8 күн бұрын

Phew, I was getting worried then.

Electric cars have ruined all future movie car race scenes...no more exciting, loud, high revving engines with a million gear changes making the car go faster and faster...lol

@Mancozeb100

11 күн бұрын

Have you seen a review of the Hyundai Ionic 5N yet ?? AutoEV did one a few days ago - shows what’s possible… Brian on AutoEV enjoyed it anyway !! kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpWsuLaycqqdm8o.htmlsi=HfXZ1OtqOo_eOK9S

@Nino500

11 күн бұрын

Remember the soundtrack from the 'pod racers' scene in Star Wars? Was that not exciting? With whining straight cut gears (transmit more power without side thrust), it's going to sound a bit like that. It will on a movie soundtrack anyway!