Try taking them on a couple of training tosses from 40 Miles Tuesday and Thursday, add 20% barley to there mix

Andrew here's what your missing it might be to late in the season but you need to get a map that shows your home & all the race points since I've been watching I assume it's 100 - 150 - 250 & 300 now you need to draw with a ruler straight lines from every release station/point to your loft now you need to establish the point in which the lines FIRST cross aka join together that is your training Sweet Spot let's say it's 25 miles this applies to young birds yearlings & old birds it's a spot that you toss the birds from anytime your not going further or your on the training truck what you're trying to do is to get them to be able to walk home blindfolded when you get to this point for a few days you toss them in mass then you divide the basket in half 5 miles before the release point you let a basket go then drive on to the sweet spot let the other basket go bring a mug of tea and something to snack so the birds can orient themselves on the ground about 5-10 minutes -- THE SWEET SPOT is the furthest point when your teaching them now you break the basket down to 4 you let one basket go at 5 miles short you make sure you see them clear then you drive 2.5 miles short of sweet spot then you get to sweet spot you let one basket go wait 1/2 hr or so let the last basket go Would be good if you have someone at home to catch the birds small handful of barley & a pinch of candy continue doing that as more birds arrive once theres a break between birds pick up the feed when the next batch come do the same BUT this time since it might the first second & maybe third when first bird goes to water the feed trough gets picked up until last group come same thing when all birds are in first bird goes to water trough is picked up. That night after the fly you can make it up to them by giving all their 1/2 oz of night feed

Keep your head up mate love the videos. In pigeon racing you have ups and downs. A guy in our club his birds don’t exercise round the loft neither but come race day he’s always in the top 5. Don’t try and change too much.

Hi my name is Chuck, I just wanted to let you know that I very much enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to supply us with your channel. I must ask your opinion on the best black tea out there? I see you having numerous cups and thought if I need advice you would be the man to ask....lol. I am from the USA and want to experience a good cup of tea. I usually drink a black tea. Looking forward to more releases. Keep them coming. Your USA friend!

@howtotrainyourpigeon

5 ай бұрын

What we call "builder's tea". If I was posh or from the 1800's I'd use tea leaves and a pot/strainer but these days everyone just uses teabags. Preferably Yorkshire 👍

Test droppings if ok fly around loft anything short of an hour put them in basket and take them straight out after loft exercise and repeat if necessary

Myn are doing the same but if you stood up at the shed they associate you with seeing the hens. When Myn do it l only let them out at tea time they'll fly better at night time. Stick the hens in the cocks section and lock each 1 in after food and exercise and drop the cocks on the perches. Don't start changing their food now you've started racing. Just give them a good chuck wed or Thursday if you think they need it. All the best

Could be one of 3 things: health, fitness, motivation. They must be reasonably fit because of racing. If it was motivation then surely if they’re wanting to get back in, they’re motivated and last week’s race results would have shown that. So I’d say get the dropping tested to check health and go from there. Good luck with it 👍

Congratulations Dan I'm just reading about you in the British homing world well done 👏

Thanks for sharing

If they don’t fly around the loft bring them up the road. Mine do the same after a few weeks of the system they catch on quick and want to be in the loft. Someone mentioned not letting them see you same here they will be straight down if they see me. Keep them racing best to keep them fit and your loft is their home they must love it do don’t scare away from it. Check and treat for canker regularly. BTW really love watching the vlogs

It’s because they can see you in the garden ! Mine used to do it they would be flying really well then as soon as they seen me they would want to come down

@sassa897

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely spot on well done 😉

I'm from Iran and here we mostly keep high flying pigeons and keeping pigeon is really popular here. But I love keeping racing pigeons and I'm starting to train and breed them. Love your videos I hope you never stop making them.

Super👍🏻

when mine used to do that i would give them a few training tosses to keep them fit. it could be they just want to get back in the loft which isnt a bad thing. they arn't under fed as you say and they look great. i used to just keep mine out and they would usually keep taking off and flying for a bit and so on

I reckon more barley in your feed .or short tosses ..also they are hearing the hens in the loft ..as regards hens pairing you can either use it to your advantage (pair them up)or get poles for perches..and wire floor..

Tossing and racing can make the birds become lazy. So just toss them instead of loft flying once or twice a week. But in saying that of u had bad race results last week then I’d be looking into there health. What do the droppings look like ? Could be wet canker ? The stress of tossing and racing can bring that on and it’s hard to pick up sometimes . I wouldn’t think it’s the feeding if u haven’t changed the feed recently. Good luck mate

Hey how's it going, really missing your videos 😢😢😢

May is the month for coxi had to put mine on baycox this morning for same reason and their and their back up flying already and mine won all the races so far this year and just stopped flying this week. it’s a sign that the young bird sickness is on the way in my opinion

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Hey there! I stumbled upon your post and I can't help but relate. I'm keen to hear if you sorted out what the problem was, as I'm currently experiencing the exact same issues. It would be immensely helpful to know how you managed to tackle the situation. Any insights or advice you could share would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to hearing from you!

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Still working on it 😅

1st thing to remember is they are all yearlings, they are notoriously difficult to motivate. When in doubt get the basket out. As others have said, do some short tosses (20 milers) and keep them there until they are beating you home. The radio is another good idea and for the roundabout system. Don't go changing to many things at once, consistency is key, they need to work on your regimen.

You seem to stop making videos for the moment. I hope all is well.

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Just busy. Vids on their way 👍

What is the disease in the lungs from bird poop? Histoplasmosis is caused by a fungus that lives in soil, particularly where there's a large amount of bird or bat poop. People can get histoplasmosis by breathing in fungal spores, and infection can be mild or life-threatening. I thought id mention this the feather dust ` Bloom ` from the feathers can lead to lung problems and best provention is to give birds opportunity to bath, and wear a mask when clean ups Cheers.

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Great info 👍

@DaveysLoft-jv7fz

Жыл бұрын

Your very welcome man I met an old bird fancier that had chronic asmah from that!.

Put them in the basket 3 4x 20 30mile plus keep them a little hungry good luck👍

Ok, I’m going to shut up now….. love your channel…. I’ll try not to be so vocal 😬

try see if they digest their food properly...see their waste you will have an idea...it should be a solid chunk with no liquid...and yes food affects their flying pattern very much...and also in which season they shed their feathers in your area? It depends on the season but could be this... Anyway give them a place to bath they will be happy and rebooted 😁😊

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm not great with the bath. I should be more consistent with that. Droppings look perfect

Lock your hens in there boxes only let out when excersizing them and stop pairing up and cock in hens section I bet with in a few days they start looking better and more keen to get home on race days

When the birds tend to get in teenager stage and want to mate up they don't like to fly all they Study is breeding but your alright the birds look great

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

That's what I feel like is happening 🤣

I have tried keeping the birds in the loft for 4 days or until you see feather flapping then let them out.

can you get a good local fancier to come have a look for you? Trouble is you ask a hundred fancier you're going to get a 100 different answers. After a couple of sticky races where they've spent several hours in the air are they just tired?

I would keep the hens in and let them train only once or twice a week but feed 80% barely and 30grams a day .All that training is not needed .They have to fly only during the race .

Could be that the birds need to be treated for respiratory if they don’t want to fly around the loft.

It’s the hawk. Once a pigeon gets chased by a hawk it becomes very nervous

Birds are okay just my need to start doing your short tossing again.some fancier use hens pairing up as motivation

Might be worth getting the droppings tested

Hello mate maybe lightin feed or more training I had mine for years next door to each other won out of turn many 1 st feds etc I've had that aswell were they land quick I never ever flagged either I was worried they'd not trap mite be sick get them tested good luck make sure thers no gaps so they can't see each other also the thing I used to notice some years they'd fly great others no so great if ther leaving the barley your overfeeding maybe

@danielregan6399

Жыл бұрын

Hello mate I'd either feed light early week building towards the race if ther not flying well I'd let them out as normal if don't fly with purpose even going away for most of the time out take them ten miles when you get them in also as the distance increases it's always harder to keep them exercisin for long they kid you sometimes mate you will figure it out be something silly probly the feed g luck anyway enjoy your vids or train hard feed accordingly remember if ther not doin much exercise they shouldn't need much food 200 miles is litrelly a sprint race depending on wind weather I had a hen once being lazy all week barely exercisin weren't guna send her then perked up last day before basketing sent her messac channel 400 miles sent 30 loads of different winners etc she won the club by 20 mins up in fed / combine moral of the story they can kid the bollocks off you 😁😁👍👍

@Gang-zy7lq

Жыл бұрын

Scouser

@Gang-zy7lq

Жыл бұрын

Scouser

I had same thing told to cut food right down ok now

Nourriture 1 CaS par pigeon par jour Henri France

Keep up your short tosses!.

If the hens are pairing up it’s because there fit

You aren’t stating whAt you’re feeding or how much and how much Am Pm etc so can’t judge if you’re under or over feeding.Are you communal feeding or individual? Is the breast flesh a nice colour? What’s the droppings like?

basket some hens and see how fast they return

Yes sir...can you please help me to let my birds fly as a pack..they are all over the show in the air.i would like them to fly as a pack like normal...please help

If they don't want to fly and they are healthy and not to heavy, take them on the road for 45-60 min flight. If you are flying less than 150 miles they are probably hungry, but if you feed more they won't perform.

Just ask the guru Charlie your lucky you have a man with so much experience on hand for this and lots of other issues that may arise.

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Not sure if you read all the messages but if you do When you let the birds out don’t stand out where they can see you they know that you let them in for food so there just waiting for you to get them in The second they see you that’s them stopped from flying Let them out and stand where they can’t see you I stand in my kitchen and watch them

@jeffkaptain2919

Жыл бұрын

Sassa, I'm a new flyer (2nd year) and just like last year if I stand in front of the loft my 23 YBs will not come down- no matter how hungry they are or how hard I shake the can of feed. If I walk into the house for a minute they will all land very quickly and trap. What have I done wrong? I don't flag but I have chased them off of the roof of the house.

@sassa897

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffkaptain2919 ybs and old birds are completely different especially widowhood old birds they will 90% of the time just want in there box so if they see you then you will stop them from fly Ybs are naturally fit and should fly for long periods of time but should still come low or land if they see you I’ve been racing for over 20 years if your birds don’t want in the shed when they see you your doing something wrong races are not won when the birds are homing races are won on the trap once there home a good trap is the difference between 1st and 6th 30 seconds could cost you massively believe me

@sassa897

Жыл бұрын

Do you feed peanuts?

@jeffkaptain2919

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your reply. I do not feed peanuts. I'm feeding a racing mix that the club sells, mostly barley, safflower ect. (I dont know all the seeds yet) Plain and simple I think they are scared of me. A couple days ago I stood in front of the loft about 2.5 hours till they were flying tight circles around the loft. I walked in the house and immediately they drop and trap. Last year racing YBs they drop and trap very well as long as I'm not there. My yearlings (1st OB team ) they are better about it, but it's best if I'm out of the way.

@sassa897

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffkaptain2919 start feeding your ybs peanuts after or with there feed they will soon tame down a bit and be more happy to be around you Not to many tho Mine get 2 per day each Once in the morning and once in the evening Last one in gets none So put your food down and in that food put 1 peanut per yb So if you have 30 ybs put 30 peanuts mixed in with there food They will soon rush to get in when they see you at the loft

Try to let them fly very early in the morning

Try a training toss they have to fly then

Questions and answers, the birds will provide the answer

Suggestion, take a flask of tea or coffee with you….. 😅 don’t want to fly…. We Will see !

hi everyone, does anyone have any contacts for a club local to goole east yorkshire? totally new to the sport, iv built a loft/aviary after reading up, but dont know where to start otherwise. any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Get in touch with the RPRA or NEHU they will be able to tell you based on your location 👍

@Josh-NikkiB

Жыл бұрын

@@howtotrainyourpigeon thank you very much

Hmmm, don’t want to fly….. here’s the boring comment….. early morning, pick any location on the dial put them in the box….. and drive….. if the girl are looking to pull…. It will be interesting to see there times from maybe 30 minutes or one hour away 😅

If they aren't sick you are feeding the hens wrong. It must be pink meat, not purple. Then you are feeding to much. I feed my hens in the beginning of the week (monday, tuesday)very light. "Zuivering" we call it in Belgium. Wednesday is 50/50 zuivering and diet. Then 2 days diet. If you basket friday to fly jnder 300 km the I give half of the ammount. If they have a very hard race ahead or longer distance I chance it up with stronger feeding. You need to have a feeling for it what you only get with playing pigeons and have thel in your hands every day. My cocks are also next to my hens. That is nog the issue.

What and how much are you feeding them pal, there’s lots of thing to know before anyone can give the right advice

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Approx 30g per bird...

@AngwinFamilyPigeons

Жыл бұрын

28.3G to an oz that seems ok. What about testing? Have you had them tested for the basics or have you treated for the basics cocci canker worms? All will make the decrease in flying. Are you feeding them a widowhood type corn or an all round mix?

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

@@AngwinFamilyPigeons I'll do a faecal matter test at the weekend. They've been treated for the regular things. Feeding wise it's a mix between Racing 49 and depurative or barley depending on the day

try feeding half then let them out

Thats what ya want only to fly 10 mins and don't flag em

My tumblers fly for 40minits you are feeding them to much mate

Do you feed any minerals to your birds?. Birds maybe tired too they just want to rest in the loft ! try a pick me up electrolyte or vitamin supplement.

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they have those. The hens love it, the cocks are indifferent. They get electrolytes on return from a race ..

Andrew one last thing B4 I enter the land of Nod I assume the birds have no health issues? Right? I assume you had the droppings tested and have made friends with a vet you can talk to maybe even avian vet. Years ago when I was flying I gave up indiscriminately medicating only medicated if something showed up in droppings throat swab & blood yes I used to do this However vaccinations were mandatory I see your loft & the birds as best I can through your camera everything looks perfect Just want to get that out of the way ******************************** As much as you may want to DON'T LOVE YOUR BIRDS!! THEY ARE THERE TO DO A JOB AND IT's UNFAIR TO THE FLOCK IF THEY HAVEN'T EARNED A PERCH

@pronster1

Жыл бұрын

DON'T LOVE YOUR BIRDS What a load of rubbish you come out with. LOVE YOUR BIRDS FIRST EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY

@pigeonpete4193

Жыл бұрын

@@pronster1 agreed 👍people should race pigeons for the love of it telling people not to love their birds is just plane silly

Are you giving them to much corn,try less corn.

@howtotrainyourpigeon

Жыл бұрын

Probably. It's one thing I'm trying

@sassa897

Жыл бұрын

Your not giving them to much corn more likely the wrong corn and your standing where you let them in they are on edge thinking your there to let them in They associate you with going in if they see you they think it’s in time Trust me stand well out the way of just stay indoors and come out after an hour Just so you know hens will fly forever and cocks will fly for 10/15 minutes there land clap off land then clap off for the rest of there time out Good luck any help drop me a message there is still me simple tips that will help you massively 😉

dont flag them mate, u will ruin them for race days