As someone who is studying the Hebrew Bible and computer science, I greatly appreciated this whole conversation. I find myself alone in the academy and workplace.

@loveseekstruth6721

4 жыл бұрын

Sir, respectfully, do you believe the same is legal for women in this country or might it be even more critical not to be seen as a polymath?

@digitalantiquities4499

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but I’m a Hebraist who is using machine learning to study the Hebrew Bible and other ancient texts. It’s quite a niche crowd.

@pikiwiki

4 жыл бұрын

isn't there a connection between computer science and the hebrew bible

@aweasadbek5445

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you will be ok

@sebastianwardana1527

4 жыл бұрын

dude, theres a lot of overlap between Judaism and Computer Science...

These guys can bounce all over from different industries and topics. It’s absolutely phenomenal. Like who has this time to research and study it and stay on top of it all.

Spot. On. I've fought this stigma of high ability in multiple areas for most of my professional life. Thank you for talking about it.

YOU NEED TO BRING PETER THIEL BACK!!! We need his perspective for our current events

Another interview with Peter Thiel please!

@zsomborabraham2046

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@carlosabreu997

4 жыл бұрын

!!!!!

This was just brilliant. Thanks for having this conversation. Everyone, especially academics, should listen to this and begin challenging established stagnation.

I was hoping this was another Peter Thiel conversation. But this was a great clip from the original.

@nathanieljames7462

4 жыл бұрын

Are you incapable of clicking the provided link to the original interview and reading the date or something?

@DjRenect

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@jackg9006

4 жыл бұрын

Peter in his New Zealand Doomsday Bunker waiting the anarchy and plague to fizzle out

@Colaglass

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackg9006 He'll be there a while, the downfall is just starting. I know it's over.

Need to see/hear more Peter Thiel. I wish Peter would do a bi-weekly video summary of his reactions to current events and then give a forecast of what he expects to happen in the next few weeks. Always enjoyable to see Peter in a Q & A format. His answers usually surprise me (and the interviewer).

@Graeberwave

4 жыл бұрын

RIP Peter Thiel kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3pkxdxyf9Cpd9o.html

Most assumptions/limitations are just fragile and socially enforced in order to protect positions in the particular field. We MUST always question limits and assumptions. Transcend

Im tired of building and buying gadgets, there may be a natural end to consumption

@nyttag7830

4 жыл бұрын

Ofcourse there is still years of consumption growth left in developing countries hence the open border/globalization efforts, at the cost of middle class wages, its all calculated and misrepresented in media as socialism when it fact its the opposite.

@JuanYo_

4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a high end Virtual Reality headset?

@animaze8043

4 жыл бұрын

@baby bean Yeah, then it will just be skins, built by the developers and consumed by the consumers to look cool.

@adamsmith3413

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t buy any device until it’s a paperweight

@Kwejybo

4 жыл бұрын

Death:D

I love the introduction music for Eric's podcast. I imagine it to be his brain bubbling with information and ideas but NOTHING THAT I EVER THINK ABOUT, so that's what attracts me. Not always but sometimes I sit and listen intently and come away with nothing that I can remember ........but know that it has elevated my world. Thank you Eric!!! and thank you Andrew Yang for leading me to this site. Sincerely, Diane

I quit my tenured, full professorship. It was a small engineering school hyper-infected with Dunning-Kruger, and a long history of academic corruptions...dumbing down the eng. programs to service low-level position in extractive industries such as oil, gas and mineral. Even though I was one of zero ph.d. physical/material science on faculty, and had brought in large sums...I was underpaid compared to those who abided the corruption, because I dared to question the integrity, and lack of substance in the programs. Of course i'm white, and older so they were happy to see me go.

@j_freed

4 жыл бұрын

Life is many strange lessons that lack logical sense.

@auction00

4 жыл бұрын

Keep the memory of the moment you made the decision to quit fresh in your mind, the feeling of exhilaration you felt. Feel it every morning when you wake up and every night before going to sleep like a meditation with an inner smile. Every time you doubt yourself, replace it with that vision and feeling. That was your heart/gut guiding you and it's 100% always right for you personally. That same heart/gut will take you forward in the right path for your personal joy.

Eric I like this short format a lot because it reinforces key ideas in the discussion without having to sit the whole 2 hour video. I am going to listen to your long form cosmology lecture however. thanks, super worthwhile

There is actually a rise in complex systems which is highly interdisciplinary.

@Spookyhoobster

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I really don't agree with those guys with that one. Maybe it's an academia thing?

@RageRabbitGames

4 жыл бұрын

I think they are referring to the academic orthodoxy that students should specialise on one field. For example, if a biologist comments on something to do with politics, people say, "What do you know, you're not a political scientist". And I think a lot of this is due to how much we've learned in the past 150 years, and that there is just too much information out there. I get the impression that Thiel and Weinstein don't hold this position, and they support individuals who look at things interdisciplinarily.

@robertschubring8705

4 жыл бұрын

That rise is happening in the private sector. IBM knew it had to hire an in-house life science team if it was to ride the rise of bioinformatics, so they did, moving out of computer hardware and into venture investing. The CIA counterintelligence chief, Angleton, famously made his job so statistical that he replaced himself with the world's second-largest collection of IBM 360 mainframes. Any theory advanced by any analyst, operative, or outside source was ranked by it's probability of being correct, based on it's track record of making correct predictions. It IS possible to run teams of people smarter than we are. All that's needed is the ethical commitment to treat each team member fairly...which is why these stories by Eric Weinstein are so entertaining as he keeps bringing them back to economics. Either we are fair or we are unfair. If we choose to be unfair, we can only trust people who are stupid enough that we can keep tricking them...and even then, they eventually catch on. Being fair from the outset is what keeps a society functioning, because it doesn't matter if somebody smarter than me invents the sewer pipe: I get the benefit of not stepping in crap when I walk out my door, no matter who made the invention😎

I'm smarter having listened to Eric over the past year, and his brother, and I appreciate the hell out of them been giving, and accepting, position of public availability by Joe Rogan. #HoldAHarmonica

@brandoYT

4 жыл бұрын

Eric and his brother (and both of their wifes also professors) fiddle while higher education burns down. They all complain, but can't seem to do anything about it.

@marcus8710

4 жыл бұрын

We know about it, though. Whistle blown. Looking now for others to stand up, now that an attentive audience has been bootstrapped

@TechM3X

4 жыл бұрын

You must be referring to the two academic grifters you appear ready to suck off?

@Graeberwave

4 жыл бұрын

They are the poster children of autism. Bret is so upset by "zombie mobs," meanwhile he was quiet as kept while the Flu Klux Klan has an ACTUAL VIRUS on their lips. Pathetic. Simply laughable. Very peculiar. The fanboys are very upset.

@rujotheone

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow they are brothers?

Yes, Polymaths are bullied out of academics. I couldn't have been pushed harder to leave because I just didn't present in court as expected.

@johngoldsworthy7135

4 жыл бұрын

The Curious Sapien why even waste your talent and time in academia? Phuddy duddies tend to be jokes in the non tiered schools

@RageRabbitGames

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, and here's an example. (For context I am a university student studing CS/Economics among my other 'side interests' as others like to call them). I had recently been pursuing some research opportunities in multiple faculties at my university and was often met with the response that if I ever wanted to make a significant contribution to the field, I ought to drop everything but one major, and dedicate all of my efforts to that.

As a computational neuroscience graduate student it seems like these guys haven’t visited a university recently. Many biology departments have several ex-physicists that are now working on models of complex biological systems.

@theotryhard8651

4 жыл бұрын

Yea but are they making criticism's on the fundamental axioms that a large part if not the whole of certain field's are based on. There are lots of obviously low hanging fruit of disgraceful academic disciplines like soical science(economics, phycology etc.) for example. They could benefit from a more rigorous computational approach, these are the very fields that underpin how our society is run.

@christianjohnson2734

4 жыл бұрын

theo tryhard very good point

@wondrousmindtrick8450

3 жыл бұрын

@@theotryhard8651 I hate to break it to you but there are a lot more disgraceful fields at universities than economics and psychology :D They at least try to become a science of sort but are mostly failing due to a lot of historic baggage and the nature of the complexity in these fields. As you say there is a lot of low-hanging fruit to be picked still.

I talked to a biology professor at UC Davis who does cancer research. He told me about all the money getting wasted. Researchers using it to enrich themselves, without working hard, sometimes without doing anything useful at all. While the rest of us toil away for scraps.

@liamschraer7512

4 жыл бұрын

I leave bear UC Davis that’s terrible to hear

I must say that Peter Thiel is more interesting than I would have thought. I'll further confess that I've previously avoided him because of a few un-contextualised details the media focuses on. I'm not saying those things are now untrue or irrelevant, I'm sure there's lots of stuff we'd disagree on. But from now on I'm going to listen to what he says. He's the kind of conservative thinker that genuinely contributes to the discourse.

Peter's point about academic institutions disfavoring individuals with broad interests is 100% spot on. I went to a top 5 Economics institution for my PhD and in the first week we were told that the people who were given tenure were not the researchers with broad abilities and interests (both academically or otherwise), but rather the people who only had interest in that narrowly defined field and nothing else. Unfortunately, this idea of 'narrow focus', which was prioritized before the quality of that researcher's innovation, always concerned me about the institution's misalignment of incentives. Now, not all of the professors agreed with this, but it was a strong enough sentiment that it strongly shaped the culture and the type of people who stayed in a research capacity.

As a wife of a business start-up owner in the pharmaceutical industry, I can tell you that there is huge stagnation in this industry. Even with great evidence it is hard to get investments. My grandson is a physicist at Princeton getting his doctorate and I fear for him even though every one tells him he is a top student. He is a polymath and his equations may work in financial industry-so he is told. I think it is a basic failure of our government to invest in new technologies. I was an economics major in college, and graduated in 1975 but even then you could tell that our rates of innovation were slowing. It is so much worse now.

I swear most of the US is in this pavlovian like state where they do things and don't know why! Glad you two are "awake." One of my favorite shows

@markrussellfilaroski5035

4 жыл бұрын

@James R Yes, they do. attorneys do anything for money. hookers do anything for money. still doesn't explain why people are so easily brainwashed. and I'd take awake vs woke any day.

@markrussellfilaroski5035

4 жыл бұрын

@Max Raider agreed.

Thief is prescient, always love to hear him speak. Please have him on again soon. Thanks

I like listening to Peter Thiel. The lack of smooth talking does not distract me at all from the great content that his answers contain.

@awuma

4 жыл бұрын

Lack of smooth talking? You obviously have not watched any interviews with Elon Musk ;-)

"The aviation industry got off the ground". Why, yes, it did. 😲

@wunder1385

4 жыл бұрын

@Edwin Horan kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpyTxdONc7ebl5M.html

How can people imagine that the mind need not like the body be exercised all parts and in various ways? A good mathematician or biologist should engage in say guitar playing, architectural appreciation and advanced French cooking. We need not wear intellectual strait jackets.

Yo can someone please begin making clips for just Eric’s intros? They’re usually around 15 mins and are the nectar of The Portal.

Peter is incredibly smart, he hit the exact sized nail multiple times in the conversation.

@j_freed

4 жыл бұрын

Ravi M - I did not observe any woodwork assembly but I take your word for this and I liked the comment.

Or: Biology is just less well understood than physics Or: Biology is more complicated, with more impactful variables or with more random variables creating more chaotic structures. Or: Is less impactful, therefore it doesn't seem to change things as much. An innovation in energy, vs an innovation in cancer or dementia, would be more impactful. Even an innovation in life expectancy, like an additional 3 years, wouldn't be that noticeable at first and the norm at the end. I love the culture/education argument as much as the next, trust me. My CS department was a complete mess. But I need more counter examples and arguments why that isn't the root cause.

@Spookyhoobster

4 жыл бұрын

@baby bean I don't think "more complicated" is the right way to describe it. I'm by no means an expert, just an enthusiast, but physics is such a broad term. On the macro level, yea it's pretty standard calculus, but when you get down to the quantum level things get really complex. I think the biggest reason we don't understand biology as much as, say quantum physics, is that the experiments we would need to conduct to increase our understanding, would probably leans towards being unethical (which comes with a load of red tape), and would have to be done over MUCH longer time periods.

@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192

4 жыл бұрын

Biology is more limited by experiment than physics. Biology is less theoretical and more bounded by the physical world, and experiments that take more time. But the average physicist is smarter than the average biologist, no doubt.

@tarmacaddict3923

4 жыл бұрын

@Spookyhoobster I also think that is the reason. The dilemma is that we will probably save more lives and suffering in the long run if we just ignored the ethical part and focused on researching as fast as possible.

@karlreisa3872

4 жыл бұрын

Google.de

@musicalfringe

4 жыл бұрын

I believe that biology, while several layers up from physics, is more fundamental in one way. It's the study of highly complex systems. In this sense, chemistry lies between it and physics, and the way in which they're "fundamental" is that there is still a limit to how much complexity human beings can analyse and reason about. Therefore, biology is like the final frontier (so far) of the study of complexity. To illustrate, consider genetics: bases are basically two-bit pairs. A genome is a program, except that it's a program written over a very long time, in machine code, by an idiot with no coding standards. It also runs on a machine designed over a very long time by an idiot. By "idiot", of course, I mean the force of evolution, which may make use of abstraction and modularity in its designs, but crucially doesn't NEED to use those techniques in order to make the problem tractable. As a result, we have genes that do distinctly useful things depending on where you start transcribing (i.e. opcodes that change meaning when you offset the instruction pointer), mutually dependent and recursive feature-activation flags scattered arbitrarily in amongst the rest of the code instead of in one block (regulator genes), and processor-mode flags influenced by everything up to and including the phase of the moon (epigenetics). In short, genetics is very much like programming, but it's so mired in recursive complexity that it's a program no human being could ever hope to (or would want to) write. Unrestrained complexity, therefore, is the final frontier of which biology is one of the best examples.

Thanks again, the wisdom is dangerous for both sides, talk about volatility. As you say, takes immeasurable amounts of courage which you and Peter both have.

Thanks for uploading with subtitles! 💪🏼

Because of the tradition of the avant guard the arts have in many ways become more and more interdisciplinary in exploration of disciplines which I think has had many great results that lack appreciation. There is less and less entrepreneurial partnerships, patronage, and public support to bring things into the world. This is a dramatically different attitude than the USA in the 50’s - 80’s. There are many reasons for the shift in support. The loss of a middle class, the costs of the programs, the shift from a production economy to finance economy, the conservative paranoia that artistic innovation will magically turn everyone into gay transgender Marxists and a public who has skipped cultural education.

Brilliant conversation. You two should do this on many subjects!

I left academia because politics seemed to be driving the research. From a risk-reward perspective it seemed foolish to spend my most valuable and limited resource (time) trying to make head way there. Despite being a minority (mixed race) from an underprivileged background and having to fight stereotypes throughout my childhood to finally get a PhD in Physics, I arrived just in time, ironically, to experience the backlash against white males being assumed to have benefited from privilege (I look white). I was grew up in an era where I was constantly reminded that the majority of lives didn't matter. You had to demonstrate you were a person of note. There were no trophies for just being. In my world the only people that seemed to have mattered were Socrates, Jesus, Galileo, Newton, Wilde, Hamilton, Maxwell, Curie, Einstein, Born, Turing, von Neumann, Russell, etc. My experience has been you get out of life what you put into it, most of the time - sometimes you are lucky and sometimes not. If you are constantly engaging law enforcement, you're just increasing your chances of an unlucky outcome. If you are generous and kind you're increasing your chances of good luck. But most of all, try to be smart whenever you deal with people. That is, learn to listen to people.

We will experience boom and bust again within our lifetime because the big players weren't actually allowed to fail, therefore nothing was learned. Just look at this stock market rise and rise while unemployment is at record levels.

@keithratcliff7896

4 жыл бұрын

agreed in general, though the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. big companies because of their size can cause disproportionately more damage if they fail, especially banks as without a payment system and monetary stability we can't transact. But we are still seeing a lot of bankruptcies of some fairly large businesses this year. Unemployment and govt financing means less staffing cost, assets are rising from stimulus and the success of tech plus some heavily reported and maybe overstated speculative behaviour. Value stock indexes and industrial/financial heavy markets like the FTSE have fallen considerably and remain suppressed. So stock markets on the whole hide the fact there are a few different stories going on at once.

@miguelpereira9859

4 жыл бұрын

The stock market is completely divorced from reality that is for sure

Agreed. I'm in computer science and it's so cringe that I have to leave off everything that isn't related on my resume, not because it's not gonna make a big difference, but because it's going to *negatively* show my practice of computer science, for some reason.

macro economical indicators -> the stockmarket...? The stockmarket is just a graph of rich peoples feelings!

@ascensionblade

4 жыл бұрын

lol wut? there's definitely some emotion involved in decisions that could lose your money, but is it possible that you don't know much about the stock market? companies that grow and increase revenues and profits also have stocks that increase in price over time. A good, profitable company is similarly a good investment. the better the company, the better the investment. eventually, successful companies can start paying dividends to stock holders from the profits, which is real, hard cash. :)

@TheAlwaysPrepared

4 жыл бұрын

@@ascensionblade Thanks for the explanation July. I personaly believe that to be a myth from a long time ago. We have share holders that buy and hold huge amounts of stocks for seconds to generate "value" and practices like buybacks that drive prices without any increas in "value" or profits from the real companies. The actual price of stocks is nowadays nearly completly decoupled from the performance of the companies. Were I live ~ 50% of the companies don`t give out stocks. They don`t want the big investment guys to ruin their buisness. Greetings Robert

@ascensionblade

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlwaysPrepared There's definitely some level of gambling or algorithmic trading, but those are only as good as the prices and the market. If no one wants to buy the stocks that you just bought for more than the price you paid, then you lose money. The monetary value of something is what people are willing to pay for it. If someone would rather have the stock than have money equal to the current price, then they'll buy or hold the stock. Regarding buybacks, I disagree. Decreasing the pool of outstanding stocks can increase each share's value, and the companies and investors probably save on taxes or something (as opposed to profits and dividends). There's more to a company than just current revenue. There's hype and such, sure, but there are a lot of other things about a company, like track record, expected growth, expected profits, etc. :) be well

@TheAlwaysPrepared

4 жыл бұрын

@@ascensionblade Sorry. I missed your answer July. My buyback example was poorly worded. Please excuse that word soup. I am not a native speaker. You got the point anyway. The company buys their stocks back ->raising the price of their own stocks. That looks good good on paper for share holders and investors, because the value of the company seems to grow. But all they did is burn their cash and waste money they could invest in better equipment, new projects, etc., which would actually raise the value of the company. Expected growth and expected value are other good example for misconceptions of traiding in stocks. It is not possible to predict how the market will behave. Monkeys outperform professionals and algorythms in expecting growth. www.forbes.com/sites/rickferri/2012/12/20/any-monkey-can-beat-the-market/ "The american stock market is actually not for trading stocks. It`s rarly used for something other then fooling investors and fraud." -Mark Blyth cheers Robert

@ascensionblade

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlwaysPrepared no worries ☺ you are right that companies that are buying back stock are, in part, admitting that it was their best idea that they could accomplish in the near term with the excess funds. The thing is, once a company starts issuing a dividend, they can lose their tech or growth multipliers from their share prices. Buybacks avoid that criticism for some reason. I'm not sure what the reason is 😁

Yes Peter is a living legend

I think that Thiel is right about less talented people being in biology on average, but I think he fails to mention the barriers to change the biology community faces. The changes we want to make impact the entire population of earth and many businesses would lose money. There are plenty of low hanging fruit in biology and that's a great way to speak about it.

@cmhardin37

4 жыл бұрын

What is an example of low hanging fruit in biology?

@tdreamgmail

4 жыл бұрын

What low hanging fruit are you talking about? One reason we may not have seen much innovation in terms of biology is because we are still very inept where ecology is concerned. We can't handle a simple coronavirus mutation without shutting down the entire planet.

@_next223

4 жыл бұрын

@@cmhardin37 Whey protein contains tgf-b a signalling protein that changes cell types and potentially causes cancer and metastases. We are eating unregulated garbage.

@skrrskrr3241

3 ай бұрын

Do U have sources for that, or Material to further read into? :)

Always refreshing to listen to Theil

I'm currently studying computer science but I so badly want to study music too. I wish polymaths weren't frowned upon.

@ethanengland6186

4 жыл бұрын

Same!

@alanbejarano4940

4 жыл бұрын

I hold an engineering degree (Industrial, but I have taken certs on some CS topics), I also have several sports training certifications and have taken several other music training/certifications. People will always look at you like you dont know what you want, or they will think you are not good enough at the fields you have studied, but they sincerely ignore that a polymath is a problem solver, and most problem solvers are polymaths.

Sad to see that the Truman show is alive and well, just check out the clips from the Chaz area. It's unbelievable.

@namelessmillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Those people in Seattle will end up turning on them selves they have no critical thinking

@stereolab28

4 жыл бұрын

I just want to see them all shot. They are a plague on society. Living in seattle was a nightmare. They were so delusional

@RareBirdGames

4 жыл бұрын

@@stereolab28 Hardcore!

You may want to correct the quote in your summary it says “no polymath aloud” instead of allowed

@Nah_Bohdi

4 жыл бұрын

Not "Know polymath aloud"... Bruh...

@bubbag8895

4 жыл бұрын

Fixed

Need to have peter back for part 2!

Fascinating stuff! Seemingly if one has too much curiosity in too many fields one becomes a security risk. Eventually the paranoia over discoveries a curious person might make, creates something like the Soviet library system, where only students with a "need to know", could access certain books. We know what happened to the Soviet system so why are we copying it?

i miss this podcast

The sound on this is excellent

I think you're tipping the scales in a good direction. I don't know if you've heard Andrew Bird's music but if not you should check him out and get him on the podcast.

I think there's a few reasons why people scorn the idea of the polymath at universities. There is a suspicion (possibly born of envy) that someone who calls themselves a polymath is not a true polymath but rather a self-aggrandizing dilettante. You cannot be expert in computer science AND 17th century Dutch art AND marine biology - you must choose one or the other. And there is the belief that attention and effort needs to be concentrated on a narrow field in order to achieve optimum results. Genuine polymaths are rare, and if you don't keep your intellectual curiousity on a tight leash you will end up wasting your own time as well as other people's.

Sums up what Graham Hancock has been saying about the Archaeology departments of Academia. Science is more about dogma. Every field thinks it is more open and diverse than all the others.

🧡💛💚💙 These guys are both Billionaire geniuses. They deeply understand Finance & Science at the top 0.01% level 🧡💛💚💙

Much thanks for this posting. It is clearly that this man is one of the most incredibly talented, intelligent, and the most successful entrepreneurs in many modern day aspects. Please ask Mr. Thiel, "to cheat death", if he also knows the secret to obtain long-term happiness, true friendship, health, longevity, rejuvenation, the nature of immortality, prolong life, and enjoy the success? *** Besides the views of many modern medical science, whether if Mr. Thiel would be able to distinguish the root nature and causes of many mortality problems, premature death, cancers, Alzheimer, Parkinson, arthritis, autism, heart attack, lung, prostate complication, diabetes, and others? *** Would he be much opened to learn more for himself? Many best wishes, altc, Paideia Academy

The lack of progress, in my view as a layman, in biology is due to the uncomfortableness of biologic truths. There is no clear boundary as to where a genetic variant causes inferior outcomes. For example sickle cell, or increases cancer rates by 5%, and where it statistically decreases which IQ you place in by 1 point, are all genetic and have different distributions in different populations and societal strata. If we start looking at biology too close we will notice that some single nucleotide variants are superior to others, which would lead to the death of many oppression narratives. Because most people who feel oppressed are simply biologically inferior individuals, but it is in politicians and media conglomerates interest to prey on that feeling to attain power or wealth. The fact that all of these differences in ability and fitness can be effectively removed in a very small number of generations is not argument enough to people with power who will lose that power. As such funding will be scarce for people prodding too deep into this area. It will probably even burn their careers.

@yeetdeets

4 жыл бұрын

An example is Anthony F. Bogaert et. al paper from 2017 which showed that the presence of an antibody in the mother significantly increased the likelihood of a male child growing up to become a homosexual. They were then criticised as being homophobes, or anti-homosexual. This is fundamentally an anti-truth position to take. Information is not moral or political in nature, it simply is. And any information, no matter how disparaging the insight, brings us forward as a society.

@williamtaylor5193

4 жыл бұрын

You make an excellent point, and look how that is playing out now with BLM and the riots. When you start with an untruth, the edifice will collapse.

@Baker.Matthew

4 жыл бұрын

Ups1dedomn it would all depend on your criteria for what is greater and what is lesser. What is your end goal to eugenics? Longer life for all? More intelligence for all? Or keep a population with a ‘lower’ genetic hand that is easy to control and direct toward the ruling classes goals.

@yeetdeets

4 жыл бұрын

@@Baker.Matthew What is greater or lesser is entirely up to the moral framework of the beholder. If the information were freely available, I doubt people at large would choose the inferior and/or subservient genes.

Isn't this an excerpt from an earlier longer interview? Would be good to see a new interview with Peter. Molecular biology promised too much with genomics, personalized medicine, gene therapy. Everyone is working on cancer and it's too complicated. You go into biology because you didn't get into medical school.

Clip from interview on 7/12/2019

I believe younger professors are just playing the game to survive like most other young people. Self-preservation and security is more valuable than ever. Also, when it comes to leadership at the top, why fix what’s broken in their favor? If they maintain the status quo, they’re able to line their pockets and walk away with healthy retirements.

He badly misses that fact that just understanding the structure of DNA or sequencing it doesn't tell you anything about what the 3bn base pairs actually mean. It is like finally coming across a giant code book.

@deraktdar

4 жыл бұрын

@baby bean Like a giant code book encoded with 100 layers of different crypto techniques which change with environmental factors.

@tapiwakay

4 жыл бұрын

Underestimating the complexities of biology.

Oh the days when Eric had some form of haircut...

This is a great segment

Wow one of the most important conversations.

Very rich and very poor at the same time. Any man could be compratively very rich, and only in some aspects. But only the truly good man, who would consciouly admits to himself that he knows, that he is very rich, yet at the same time, very poor in other aspects. --- These men are the most worthy to be my long term teacher, friend, and comrade. Please Mr. Peter Thiel, let me have a short moment of your precious time, I have the solution to your quest for the world. altc

Looks like he was correct. Markets are not normal. Left tail events have been occurring far more than normal probability functions would suggest....yet we rely on them anyway.

Peter: “ These disciplines ( biology, physics) have gotten more rigid so you can’t easily transfer into one from another “ Me: is it not that the state of the art is so deep in 2020 that it requires specializing in them in order to form those intuitions which often spur innovation?

Biology is contributing to the economy, but often the methods are still more expensive than ripping resources out of the ground and leaving the hole.

@brandoYT

4 жыл бұрын

Monsanto & chemical companies seem to make fine profits - while spoiling the planet and killing off all the bugs, and other annoying creatures.

Nice words about Physics, well deserved as stated. Math-Physics in Biology and applied Quantum Computing looks interesting. Alumni who re-invest in their dominant interest, back in the context of possible advances they are developing?

nice, last few minutes were 10/10

I can never decide if these guys are brilliant or conspiracy theorists.

In the academy you get ahead by giving the answers the professors want, but life isn't a multiple choice test. The answer is none of the above.

@loveseekstruth6721

4 жыл бұрын

One of the better professors (hindsight) I had I didn’t like much while in college. My scores were terrible on the first couple of exams leaving me believing I just wasn’t smart enough. He never mentioned he graded on a curve and when I finally went in to discuss dropping the course he asked me why it was he only seemed to get this very question from his best students. I was shocked. *I* was among his best students?? His exams, at times, despite rigorous studying on my part, left me wondering if I’d walked into the right classroom. He said he did this on purpose to show us what the real world would be like. Smart man.

@snokzor

4 жыл бұрын

@@loveseekstruth6721 Good story. I also had 2 instructors in 2 totally different field who made their tests 'incredibly difficult'. Thinking back on this they are probably the ones that gave the right idea about what it was going to be like in the 'real world'. Too bad they weren't more vocal about this tho or maybe I just didn't pick it up since I wasn't very mature yet. I was incredibly proud when I passed those classes.

Incentives introduced to increase "performance" maybe one of the big reasons, for what they are describing. Historically professors had tenure and they could basically do whatever they want. I would guess if you give the professors more freedom many inefficient things are done. However some big things might come out of it. If you push everone to apply for grants, publish frequently (so don't rock the boat to much, otherwise it might be difficult to publish) etc... the average academic might work more or be more focused, but you may lose the disruptive changes which historically lead to breakthroughs.

It is not even 2 years and the shift is already happening.

@amoghprakash6916

3 жыл бұрын

how so?

End the Fed

I would like to hear Peters thought on investment plan today and 12-24 months forward and is it a mass delusion as it seems when people working for banks, trading, cant see even the basic macro economics and deduce the outcome in a binary sense. 1 (insane mainstream) "Problems in the financial system is within control and will be perpetual". 2. Running the numbers, doing actual calculations with known parameters. "The US is already insolvent and have no chance to pay future liabilities like pensions. " The way other countries do it is to save, while the US is spending the current savings on the current generation... The US budget which is funding with 150% of the tax revenue. The cost of just rolling over treasuries and just paying the interest is already quite high despite minimal interest rates completely decoupled with real inflation. With traditional 100 year average rates the interest would be more than 100% of tax revenue (tax revenue that would be falling).

It's all quite simple: in order to build a better society, we start with prioritizing all children's nutrition, education, and housing with less stressed parents. Don't expect results till those children are adults. Children over bombs and excess. End: *The war on drugs *Payroll taxes *IRS *Predatory foreign policy *Poisoned food, air, and water Implement: *Medicare4all paid for by ending the private med insurance industry. *UBI *Land value tax on foreign owned income properties *10% Value Added Tax on all wholesale and retail point of sale transactions See: easy!

Amazing!

Private equity ??

11:54 i have been blacklisted from employment for this reason

Omg...Peter's correct. Actual left-wing professors are dying off. Liberalism should mean to question all systems, including the one that one is benefiting off of. But, instead, we are getting lock-step rigid self-protectionism!

@narutosaga12

4 жыл бұрын

Landry Prichard none of what you garbled out in this comment makes any sense. It seems like you need to attend your local community colleges writing classes. Lol 😂

In biology, innovation is not as fast as in physics because there is more at stake in terms of immediate consequences. You are dealing with life. Physics allows for rapid iterations and experimentation, but Biology can't do the same because if an experiment goes wrong, someone could die or face a multitude of negative outcomes. I worked in a pathology lab while in college. The lab studied the biology of aging and a single experiment takes several YEARS to gather significant data from. Given our current technology and ethical tolerance, you can't expect the same rapid innovation in Biology that Physics has afforded society.

I don’t understand people here who bash liberalism. It is so broad. If there’s a disparity you hate, it has everything to do with economics. Those who want to amass all the power and those who don’t have the means which is 99% just having enough or not enough to get by. Knowledge is the only equalizer and it is a virtuous cycle anyways, which inherently feeds the human race. Yes there are many factors at play but hating what you don’t understand or agree with is anathema, and anemic thinking. I suspect some techies like Peter Thiel who is gay, would probably not mind seeing a world without women. Before you jump on that, think deeper. People have motives, they act for a reason. They put their entire lives at stake for a reason.

obviously there are only those many commodities to invest in and if everybody rushes to invest their overflows in those, that is not needed, it has given to false fluctuations, false investment hedge funds scams frauds embezzlements, the only sector left which will give you back albeit slowly is build for the ones who need it... that sector which needs affordable housing, medical facilities within reach of pockets bills, education ..food sectors for those...for aged destitute who got robbed by false hopes of these very scams of wall street and others promising them instant doubling ponzi schemes ones.. so the ones with rightfully made monies want to further it can look into these sectors, if they want to.

Biological sciences, particularly biochemistry and genetics as research environments have terrible pay... something which I have experienced personally in the UK. So, whilst you might get some talented people staying in the field, most researchers will jump across to sales, pharma, lecturing, etc as this means double/ triple the pay. After a while, you can't argue with the cost of living and also the research itself is complicated, the number of pathways involved in biological sciences and multiple interactions becomes staggering (and a risk, remember this isn't a external device, machine, etc... These are people you will be dealing with directly in the end)...plus you have a lot of regulations, long ethics committee decisions for clinical trials to go ahead for anything related to genetics. In many ways, the earlier physicists had an easier run as they were riding the wave of academia and it's mainstream interest/appeal, they could conduct more experiments and the field was less crowded for recognition. So, given all the restrictions, plus having to churn out 2-4 papers a year (to maintain tenure and which have the additional dimension of politically correct compliance)...how do you push the biological science fields forwards?

Now I need to re-read The Glass Bead Game (Herman Hesse)

@joanblond8527

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean "Magister Ludi" (sp?)

There are no good physicists because most people went after the job where there is money. Only those who had a passion towards physics or any other subject for the matter who were ready to sacrifice the money aspect went behind the subject of interest.

Good luck not “telling people” without critical privacy discussions seemingly still emerging in the digital age. Much as a mechanized system might more easily comprehend narrow interests, growth is learning and with that exploration - I believe efficiency is important to our collective sustainable futures; however, I [insert least provocative term for “intense wish”] that efficient future is one in which any of us remain free to explore, learn and grow without persecution.

Opening comments: Funny... at work I found the same thing - its not limited to polymaths. I'm only allowed to be skilled on one thing, or I'm disparaged as a "utility player" valued by none. I see them instead as limited and narrow minded and unable to see the broader picture.

@snokzor

4 жыл бұрын

This is very true. There aren't many places that value polymaths. If you haven't done the same thing for a long time people tend to frown on you.

The Polymaths argument is extremely easy to refute. Look at how many magnitudes of order our collective knowledge has grown. Just imagine in 1904 that there would be a day where every single person on the planet would know what E=MC2 was? Now think about how much knowledge has been found in each specific discipline. DNA/gene editing is also an easy one to explain. It took nature nearly 4billion years to get where we are today. 10’s of billions of codes to decipher. It’s complicated and exponentially interconnected. One gene may effect 10’s of millions of other genes expression.

Does this mean all of the rich people will go hide in their bunkers from the world they destroyed in the name of greed?

I think comparisons of these times to the Great Depression are missing the point completely because during it they at least had some real money still in circulation. The Fed started creating their notes (with a real promise they could be redeemed for real dollars [i.e. silver ones]) in 1913 but when the crash happened the money in circulation was still largely silver dollars. The Fed had spent those 16 years inflating the money supply and the depression was a contraction of the money supply. This current system has only worthless Federal Reserve Notes and digital entries on bank's computer ledgers as "money" and those represent 100% of the "money". If and/or when that system fails the people will be left with NO money at all. Unlike the Depression where they still had the remaining silver money to provide a floor to the collapse, this time there is no floor. The government won't be able to help because the "money" they create is worthless and will have been exposed as such. That will be an unprecented event never seen before in human history and far, far worse than the Depression!

Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!

Dont send your kids to college, keep them sane in the brain.

@pikiwiki

4 жыл бұрын

interesting thought. very.

@rickb06

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Also, please buy the newest Ford©️ Taurus™️ luxury sedan, it isn't really a luxury at all, hardly any serious / major improvements or new features that aren't gimmicks, and your payment will be unprecedentedly high, $30,000 and it'll be worth less than HALF of what it blue books for after a mere 32 weeks after purchasing, but it's ok, Ford©️ needs bailed out again, so get your ass out there and buy one, otherwise we will be forced to "borrow" money from you, courtesy of your House of Representatives, Senate, oh and your President, we literally own him, I'm not kidding, he is listed on our books as a fixed asset for tax purposes.

Incentives and constraints. The FDA is a giant constraint that blunts the incentives in productizing biology.

This lockdown proved out pointless the current curriculum of structured education is.

It so frustrating to watch these conversations and not be in the room.

Brilliant

I think that breaking point in the University system is now.

David Graeber (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Graeber) seems like a current example of a professor that went against their University.

I would love to cook dinner for these two men.

Humanity is riding in a 1971 Olds 98 at 120mph and the doors are rattling and the wheels are coming off. We're running on old science, rigid culture, and creativity is on holiday. Quant Mech turned physics into a lazy observer-based consciousness movement. Moore's law is dead. Hollywood creativity is digging in Stan Lee's closet hoping to find some obscure super hero to re-spin a dozen times. Stagnation is everywhere because we're frozen like a deer in headlights without a clue what to do next with 8 billion people on a planet and in a society that is ever more deadly to us. Evolutionary inflection point...awakening or extinction.

Eric - My brother and I are too profound for regular academia - Weinstein

I have a problem you guys should try to solve, homelessness. Big windows in LA I’m sure you see them.