I'm a woman, and I'm voting REFORM UK. Labour is a joke after watching this ridiculous Labour representative speak. Cringe!!!

@breakstone14

4 күн бұрын

I'm non-binary and I'm voting Labour, I can't wait for the super Labour majority government! They're going to pass laws forcing you to recognise me and my people.

@davidgreen6490

4 күн бұрын

Thats what Peter Hitchens is trying to tell you here though. If you are against Labour as any rational person SHOULD be, then the only way to prevent a Labour government is to vote Tory. I myself would be voting for Reform UK if the incoming Prime Minister was not a Trotskyite! People do not understand just how far left the leader of this Labour party is and giving him the keys to number 10 will be the death of this country. This is not the time to waste your vote on Reform.

@peterhitchens4240

4 күн бұрын

Then your logic is defective . If you vote Reform you will put Labour in Office. The Reform speaker actually admitted this.

@rockyluvinfrnd8180

4 күн бұрын

Nearly 95% of INDIGENOUS BRITISH need to vote reform UK on July 4th to save Britain.....can't afford a labour Tory LIBDEM regime at number 10 😠

@darthrhodes

4 күн бұрын

Honestly, skipped that bit 😂😂

Hitchens always makes valid points but Goodwin was strongest here!

@burtingtune

2 күн бұрын

I agree and would add that, however much I like Hitchens, he went on record for the past 5 years saying he no longer tried to shape events, but merely recorded them as an obituarist. He needs this rubbing in his face.

@sheehan92

4 сағат бұрын

Hitchens is an overrated loon, he stands for nothing, much like his brother.

As a genuine conservative, I only have one option: Vote Reform!

@modestproposal9114

Күн бұрын

When capitalism fails, conservatives inevitably turn to fascism. You are part of a long tragic history.

@StephenMair

Күн бұрын

Exactly!

@oftbanned101

Күн бұрын

I think you'll find those two words are not synonyms but antonyms!!

@davidgreen6490

21 сағат бұрын

What will you gain by voting Reform??

@spector969

17 сағат бұрын

@@oftbanned101 In what way?

I like hitchens.. but VOTE REFORM to end immigration

@Xeeni87

5 күн бұрын

it always boggles my mind parties say migration is good at levels now.. then talk about maintaining out green to fight pollution etc. Its like they do know bigger the population the less green we have right? trying to act like they can do both which is impossible.

@Nick-io9uk

5 күн бұрын

@@Xeeni87 I concur 100%. Transporting people from low carbon lifestyles in the third world to high consumption ones in the 1st, having vast global diasporas who'll want to fly around the world just to visit family. So called free trade policies that simply relocate factories from nations with stringent environmental standards to far east nations with none. Nothing that our political establishment actually does suggest THEY believe a damn word of what they say on climate change.

@Dimera09

4 күн бұрын

Should say end MASS immigration. You can't just end all immigration... speaking more precisely on this will do your cause a favour.

@theoutsider6191

4 күн бұрын

Like his wit too, but unfortunately what he's saying makes no sense. Voting for the Cons will only result in them not learning the lesson they need to learn. They completely let the country down, more in the last term than at any other point. COVID, Wokery, Immigration, Energy inflation and on and on. Serious issues which they have simply failed completely on, and they were not that hard issues to fix, understand or get far better routes through than they divested decisions on to the like of Witty and Valence et al.

@paulcampbell1596

4 күн бұрын

nobody likes Hitchens.

MATT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES SENSE. REAL CHANGE AT LAST.

This Labour woman is so painfully fake and dishonest that I’m simply skipping everything she says.

@claudiavonayres9186

5 күн бұрын

It's nauseating 🤢

@formerlydistantorigins6972

5 күн бұрын

Makes her perfect for Labour

@henresearch

4 күн бұрын

She's not. The panel selection is just unfair. Labour would win anyway.

@sonofsomerset1695

4 күн бұрын

She's not fake or dishonest, she is just brainwashed and closed minded, even when facts were explained to her she still repeated her ideological propaganda that has been drilled in to her. I'm sure she actually believes she's on the best side, unfortunately she is far from it, she's on the virtue signalling irrational side.

@Mickyway

4 күн бұрын

So you've made that judgement about her and you're not even listening to what she has to say

You'll never see any political discussion that is this interesting on the BBC. Well done, UnHerd.

@762parabillim

4 күн бұрын

Seconded.

@thevale2456

3 күн бұрын

Right Wing Echo Chamber this

@goofygrandlouis6296

2 күн бұрын

It won't change the result of the elections, though, in the UK. And *white liberal women* are the problem. Just look at the panel in this debate ! 🙄 Because they live in wealthy and *safe* neighborhood, they are going to support policies that destroy the safety of less fortunate women (like mass immigration). It's almost to a point that I genuinely feel disgust for this group. THEY are destroying western countries all over. Since the 1970's an the endoctrinati..I mean educational camps that are universities, white liberal women are bringing us down.

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

BBC are a wing of the Labour party.

The woman speaking on behalf of the Labour Party was shocking in her lies and arrogance. I'm appalled at the prospect of a Labour Government but cannot vote Conservative after the last 14 years. I, and my family are all voting Reform UK.

If only the SDP could replace Labour and Reform could displace the {not) Conservatives.

@davidbettney785

4 күн бұрын

Maybe they will...One vote at a time ;)

@adam7802

4 күн бұрын

It might be the future. I think we are due this, Labour and Conservatives are reprehensible.

@davidbettney785

4 күн бұрын

@@adam7802 100% :)

The Labour woman spouted exactly the same things that I’d expect from her party , she thinks that she knows what people want but is clueless! Also she is the only one without a sense of humour 😂

@user-zc4yd9ss7h

4 күн бұрын

If Labour were clueless why are they so far ahead?

@astrecks

4 күн бұрын

Communists don't have a sense of humour!

@andrewcheadle948

4 күн бұрын

​@@user-zc4yd9ss7his that a serious question at this stage in the game... Have you been away from planet earth for 14 years?

@youtubeyoutube936

4 күн бұрын

Voting for someone worse is hardly going to make things better

@jackcollins156

4 күн бұрын

@@user-zc4yd9ss7h most people are clueless

Spot on Matt Goodwin. Listen to his initial speech very carefully. Everything he says is true

I'm voting Reform, tories and Labour are exactly the same! I can't stand Labour hypocrisy.🤮

@tatianavinograd7591

3 күн бұрын

Agree about L and C. Will R be better?

@CumbriaPreacher

2 күн бұрын

Hard to believe Hitchens can't see it.

@mimikins7748

2 күн бұрын

@@tatianavinograd7591Well they can’t be worse. I’m giving them a chance. The change of tax threshold and them being anti-net zero, which will cost taxpayers hundreds of billions, is a huge reason for me to vote Reform, not to mention that Starmer is weak and pathetic. He still can’t say what a woman is ffs. May as well throw a wet wipe into number 10 when Labour get in.

@mick947

2 күн бұрын

She actually believes labour are with the people. The only reason people are voting for labour in this neoliberal form is because the conservatives have self imploded.

“It’s a bikini. What it conceals is much more important than what it reveals” Peter Hitchens.

@Alex-mj5dv

3 күн бұрын

Truism if ever there was one. Think that nugget may have been lifted from Christopher’s repertoire - but glad Peter is carrying the baton forward.

@westham7343

2 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

Hi Peter - I am voting reform because I am voting FOR reform

The Labour representative is called Rowenna, proving Rod Liddles' accusation of the Middle class being who the Labour party represent.

There's a scary certainty on behalf of the Labour party, and a lack of humour.

@mikedudley4062

4 күн бұрын

Dictators of Marx ideology. 200 years of failed Marx ideas, and no country that employed it became wealth only much poorer

@WillyJunior

Күн бұрын

And an abundance of Angela Rayner 🤦🏻‍♂️

We just had it here in Ireland, no one to vote for. At least you have farage, good luck guys - get behind change.

@FindThisArtist

5 күн бұрын

No one starting a cultural movement? Like we've had June 1st and July 27th upcoming.

If we're headed for a Labour government under Keir, I weep. But it's because the Tories have lost the people's trust...All we can do is start building a grounded opposition by voting Reform.

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Exactly. Change won't happen unless you start the process by voting Reform July 4th

@alexanderh2345

4 күн бұрын

But if you split the right wing vote then Labour wins. Are you willing to pay that price? What message will you actually be sending? Labour won’t care once they’re in power.

@abigailslade3824

3 күн бұрын

@@alexanderh2345same athletic argument, vote positively not negatively.

@alexanderh2345

3 күн бұрын

@@abigailslade3824 I think voting is always a negative thing in some sense. You’re voting to put people in power over you. Be careful to whom you give that power.

@greencloud2225

Күн бұрын

@@alexanderh2345 Labour are going to win anyway and the Conservatives hasn't been conservative for at least 10 years. We have nothing to lose by voting reform

If enough people vote Reform we will win. Vote with your heart. Absolute waffle from Flo Read.

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

This is true

@Liam-yr4uf

13 сағат бұрын

🤦

Goodwin and Hitchens are two of the best conservative commentators.

@britainbetterthanyou

4 күн бұрын

Goodwin has ulterior motives. You shouldn't trust him. Don't be taken for a fool.

Reform can't win without votes, so vote Reform to SAVE OUR COUNTRY. You know it makes sense.

Rod Liddle is so good

@lexiewellman

4 күн бұрын

I believe SDP & Reform have an informal pact of collusion. I think they should make that more known.

@montaguewithnail6372

2 күн бұрын

No, he's not.

@amazer747

2 күн бұрын

The only speaker who thinks swearing is attractive. I like SDP policies and Rod but he needs to be more respectful of those who wish to listen to him without swearing!

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

SDP should partner with Reform

I thought Hitchin's was surprisingly poor. His arguments merely boiled down to 'only votes for the Tories or Labour matter'. The very line of thinking that has got us into this mess

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Exactly awful. Change has to start somewhere. Vote Reform July 4th and start that movement that might take 5-6 years like Matt says but start it now rather than later.

@pancakewizard1533

4 күн бұрын

To be fair to him, he's concerned about an incoming Labour government poisoning the well of all future elections with their constitutional changes. I agree with him 100% that's a concern, but I also think Reform are worth the punt.

@alexanderh2345

4 күн бұрын

His point is that by voting Reform you’re handing the election to Labour bc you’ll split the conservative vote. It’s hard to unelect a party once they’re elected to power. 14 years of Conservative leadership shows that. Labour will have power for probably the same amount of time if not longer.

@kevinevans8666

4 күн бұрын

​@alexanderh2345 , yes I understand but look at what we've had with 14 years of the Conservative Party. I couldn't conceive any sensible reasoning to give them another bite at the cherry(so to speak).

@bewilderedbrit8928

4 күн бұрын

I like how he makes that faint whistling noise when he speaks.

Torys deserve ZERO SEATS

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Change has to start somewhere. Why not now? Otherwise we go on endlessly and nothing changes. Vote Reform on July 4th and start that process. Yes it might take 5/6 years like Matt says. But start that process now so in 5-6 years we get that real change we crave in British politics. And better future for our kids. Vote Reform July 4th

@lucabiagi1485

4 күн бұрын

Maybe one or two… JRM would join reform

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat

3 күн бұрын

@@lucabiagi1485 No. JRM is utter fake. He didn't oppose lockdown. So much for being in favour of liberty.

@rareword

2 күн бұрын

To save the Conservative movement and prevent the Labor Party from leading the country into a precipice from which it may never recover, patriotic members of the Tory Party must join Reform as soon as possible, before the election.

@goofygrandlouis6296

2 күн бұрын

Yeah but the white liberal women are going to be an issue in this election. Because they live in wealthy and *safe* neighborhood, they are going to support policies that destroy the safety of less fortunate women (like mass immigration). It's almost to a point that I genuinely feel disgust for this group. THEY are destroying western countries all over. Since the 1970's an the endoctrinati..I mean educational camps that are universities, white liberal women are bringing us down.

Only person on the stage i didnt think was being honest was the Labour women. Whether or not i agreed i felt the others shared their sincere beliefs.

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

She couldn’t be honest as she would lose all support!

Thank you for putting this panel together. My vote is not Tory, Labour or Green - so probably REFORM as I also think a reset / re-calibration is required.

Matt carried it, in my opinion.

@christiankreps5920

4 күн бұрын

He did

Vote Reform, Matt is correct. There is no other alternative.

@collydub1987

4 күн бұрын

The SDP are a better bet.

@adam7802

4 күн бұрын

@@collydub1987 The SDP are not running in many seats by the sound of it but they have a pact with Reform apparently, so they are both aligned. Makes sense as well, I think having both getting seats would be good for our democracy.

1:29:06 "...and Kier Starmer is a prosecutor, he's quite good at going after criminals...". I remember when Starmer was the DPP, he tried to fast-track the extradition of Julian Assange. Great human rights lawyer that one 🤣

@amazer747

2 күн бұрын

He was DPP when the Muslim grooming gangs were operating (and still are!)

@autumnleaves2766

Күн бұрын

Yes, and I could see Labour revelling in locking up anyone who dares to question it. If we thought Tories were bad, and they have been, it will be far worse under Keir Starmer and co, and he might even get ousted at some point. The Labour party is divided over Israel/Gaza situation for example and we all know why but are not allowed to say it.

Well done Matt & Rod!

@davidbettney785

4 күн бұрын

Team SDP-Reform

VOTE REFORM! 🇬🇧

Zero seats for the Tories, is the best policy the Conservatives have ever suggested.

@odiedodieuk

5 күн бұрын

I wish we could convince Labour to do the same

@sarahsteeleuk4196

4 күн бұрын

​@@odiedodieukkeep at it ❤ spreading the word. Don't give upv💪👍👌🇬🇧❤️

@mikedudley4062

4 күн бұрын

We need to get rid of this liberal left government with socialist policies.... Unfortunately you can't cure socialism with more socialism, socialism makes you poorer

@atheosmonde

4 күн бұрын

You will live in a hell scape of your own making

@britainbetterthanyou

4 күн бұрын

ZERO SEATS? So all those TORIES who did the HARD GRAFT to make BREXIT work (from new trade deals to re-writing 100,000s of new regulations), they all have to lose their seats now? Why. They did nothing wrong. They did the REAL WORK whilst Farage just sat their making $$$ in America. Some people have no honour. Englishmen don’t attack their own.

I’m a woman that lives in the real world of banter and am voting reform

The Labour candidate is an intellectual lightweight. These people cannot seriously be in government.

@paragondega

4 күн бұрын

They sent their best tho......

@Ralstro

3 күн бұрын

@@paragondega Sad but true.. Who else could they get, Rayner? Ashworth, Burgon, Lammy? I wouldn't trust them to spell Whelk stall let alone run one. Have you seen Reeves lately, she looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights because she knows what's coming and that she's not up to it. Rayner and the rest definitely aren't up to but think they are and that's even worse.

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

Vote Reform and join the silent majority!

@paragondega

Күн бұрын

@@stuartmenziesfarrant I can't say I'm confident that we are a majority right now. Theres just to many leftists and our side is fractured between npcs, tactical voters and people who don't see the point in voting any more.

@blowfish1702

Күн бұрын

That's the Labour Party as a whole, the best they can offer is midwittery whilst smiling on one side of their face and sneering and those "beneath" them with the other.

WHO is voting for Labour? Apparently they're going to win with a considerable majority, but HOW? WHO is voting for them? Their representative here is absolutely insufferable, and it's heartening that everyone here sees through her.

@FiveLiver

4 күн бұрын

Champagne socialists, blue haired Lefties, and immigrants.

@andrewcheadle948

4 күн бұрын

A load of idiots will vote for labour,unfortunately. I know of a few of them, who actually believe in open borders, and who believe that the tories are a hard right party.... They're out there! 😬

@kevinevans8666

4 күн бұрын

Here in south Wales. Can't understand it but the labour party has this country by the nuts. And thatcher was decades ago but it still gets mentioned.

@dontcallthemliberals3316

4 күн бұрын

Nah greens girl just hasn't sold out yet, giver her 5 years and a baby and she'll be the spitting image of the labour rep.

@neomagneto84

4 күн бұрын

Cities like Liverpool will always, ALWAYS, vote Labour. Usually because, well just because 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️🤷

I've never seen Peter Hitchens happier than during Florence's speech

Goodwin knocked it out of the park. There is a future for him in (sensible) government, if he wants it.

Vote Reform - Don't let the establishment win with the two party system that suits their agenda. They both represent themselves and not the people of this country.

@offshoretomorrow3346

4 күн бұрын

That the Tories are SO committed to Open Borders they will commit electoral suicide rather than lift a finger to control it - tells you something very disturbing.

@70AD-user45

3 күн бұрын

The two party establishment represent the WEF globalists.

The Labour representative is vacuous and cliché-ridden. She has persuaded thousands to vote Reform, myself included.

While my personal politics tend strongly toward traditional (anti-woke) Labour, the SDP & even Galloway's Workers Party (albeit with one or two qualms) ... I have to say that - as usual - Matt Goodwin wipes the floor ... brilliantly articulate, hard-hitting & concise ... outperforming everyone else ... he's a great asset to Reform.

Quite refreshing from the Green candidate but I could never vote for them, especially the nutty net zero nonsense! Felt a bit sorry for the Labour woman there. She will learn a lot over time. The usual Hitchens, with his "I don't like the Conservatives but vote *against* Labour." i.e. vote Conservative. I'm voting Reform. We have to break the ridiculous Labour/Tory cycle no matter how long it takes.

@ohwellwhateverr

4 күн бұрын

Green lady isn’t a candidate, she’s a member of the Unherd team.

@AndyJarman

4 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, if the Conservatives were 'tories' they would not have fallen prey to the globalists. Conservatism is nothing more than a break on progressivism. Concurrently social reform has been overrun by the Internationalist neo Marxism known as Critical Social Justice. The Tories were originally the landed gentry who wanted to lead society by example, promoting commercial and traditional interests and cultural values.

@kevinmcfarlane2752

4 күн бұрын

Net Zero is not nutty. It’s evil.

@fl-ri-

4 күн бұрын

The green party are the biggest opponents of Nuclear firstly but also bizarrely solar. The Green Party Nimbys protest every solar farm proposed in this country.

@manfrombritain6816

4 күн бұрын

Peter is a mong. "the country is broken, it's fucked, we're going off a cliff... here's why you should continue to vote for the same corrupt and incompetent status quo. he's such a boomer bore. if he thinks the conservatives aren't done already, he's insanely out of touch

Peter Hitchens' standpoint is completely incoherent. If he wants the destruction of the Conservative party as he had long claimed, then the position he now warns against was always and will always be the case. At some point you have to take the decision to abandon the Conservative Party and vote elsewhere without fear of "allowing in Labour". I have voted, I am not a child and it was for Reform, who represents the only, if improbable, chance of saving what's left of this country.

@richardenders6606

8 сағат бұрын

@geejaybee - hard to disagree with any of that, why all 17.4 million Brexit voters don't just vote Reform is a mystery, they either want Brexit and a Reform type of manifesto enacted or they want to continue with the status quo , Matt Goodwin's position is entirely logical

I CAN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN MATT. GOODNITE.

Mid 30’s. Young family. I want to keep more of my hard earned money. 20k income tax threshold. Feel Politically homeless. Voting REFORM. 🇬🇧❌🇬🇧 #MBGA

I will be voting Reform times they are a changing 👏👏🇬🇧🇬🇧

Vote Reform and get real change.

@JACB006

5 күн бұрын

Labour stole the slogan “Vote for Change” from Reform UK. Great to see Reform UK up their game again and came back with “Vote Reform UK for REAL Change”. ✌️🇬🇧🥇

@Mickyway

4 күн бұрын

Like Tice trying to prove he isn't racist to everyone

@user-ug3cc6vq5j

4 күн бұрын

You’ll get Labour you fucking idiot

@chuck1804

4 күн бұрын

​@@Mickywayor like people crying "racist" because they haven't got any actual arguments.

@delver1857

4 күн бұрын

​@@chuck1804Reform attracts racists though, so many candidates caught saying racist stuff. One just the other day said "slaughter migrants". They're a rabble of loons

I’m sorry but Starmer saying the country comes first is the biggest joke I’ve heard in years! In labours eyes our country comes behind, EU, UN, NATO, WEF, WHO and any other initials and I call BS on the NHS answer he gave!

I love how much Peter, a man who for all is many qualities is not given to bouts of joy, enjoyed Flo's opening presentation.

I'm voting Reform UK. Labour will be a disaster, Hitchins is right about that. But it seems as though things need to get worse before they get better. I believe Labour will ruin the British economy. Investors are already fleeing the country in large numbers. Tories have destroyed themselves through corruption and incompetence, and over the next 4 years I believe Labour will do the same. Reform UK need to absorb both the support traditional to Labour aswell as the tories. Then we can set to work making The UK the truly great country it's destined to be.

Pere Hitchens is wrong to insult the other panelists by calling them "blobs" and "tooth failry". It just showes his arrogance and contempt towards people with different points of view

Vote Farage and Reform.

I thought they all made some good points, apart from Labour

@theoutsider6191

4 күн бұрын

Labour are basically going to be even more of what the Cons did.... so even more taxation, even more public squandering, even more benefits going out, even more immigration, even more issues of wokery, even more integration into above state level treaties that will bind our hands and give us no say over how our country operates (see the WHO proposed treaty that will give them the power to lock us down yet again when the next new cold comes along from a lab somewhere in China.....)

@sonofsomerset1695

4 күн бұрын

Labour dont make points, they make virtue signals, and cant understand why more and more people are laughing at the obvious naivety of their positions, which are simplistic and childlike, appealing to pure emotion while disregarding logic.

Peter has lost it, he says if you're against mass immigration it's idiotic to vote Reform because it will let Labour in. Instead he thinks you should vote for the Conservatives who have let in such high numbers it utterly dwarfs anything we've ever seen before... Wait, so who was idiotic again?

As much as I like Peter The arrogance and willingness to keep Tory in power instead of Reform is really astounding. How on earth can we vote for the Tory party with a clear conscience when they are not remotely conservative and all issues that matter to us, woke ideology, immigration and net zero have and will continue to get worse under them. Completely agree Labour as a catastrophe and I actually think less of people who can’t see that, but let’s be honest the conservatives have only survived this long due to the ineptitude of Labour and that free pass was always going to run out.

@simonboyes2550

4 күн бұрын

He did appear to depart the lecturn only telling us what we should NOT do, without a clear direction

@MrXaphus

4 күн бұрын

It is difficult to choose between Goodwin and Hitchens. Hitchens' point is that Labour are so committed to expanding the vote to 16 year olds that, if they get in, under FPTP, even if the Tories are destroyed in the next few years and Reform become the main opposition, Reform will never be able to overturn the electoral advantage that will be given to Labour (since they'll have control of the institutions during this period). Goodwin argues that the next election is existential for the country and so we'd better get on with building strong foundations now. But with mass immigration projected to continue at huge levels in the next 5 years, combined with the expansion to 16 year old voters, I'm sceptical as to whether there even is going to be a possibility of mounting a challenge to Labour under Reform in 2029, because the maths will be so overwhelmingly against them by then even if they get a few seats in 2024.

@juliahartshorn2473

2 күн бұрын

How would you say Conservatives values stand re the NHS - Is it an institution to be preserved, or an asset to be sold off like other vital infrastructure, ie water, energy, trains? I am truly interested because the NHS, surely, is one of the best things about living in the UK, something we have all needed at various times of our lives, and our families' lives, yet it is in the hands of the democracy and the tax payer, the end user - ie if your ideology is neoliberalism/free market , low regulation, and barest minimum of voter influence in the democracy we live in (a very top down style of rule, not democratic at all really, ie limited power of redress - as in water company monopoly and polluting with impunity) it is not clear whether the Conservative view is to hold onto , and manage well this asset (in conservation of the principle) , or if the Conservative ideology is that the voters should own no assets, not because it is socialist but because in a class based system you need an unhealthy pyramid, ie a lot of people at the bottom to exploit for their labour and from the shallow pockets of in order to keep the pyramid peak well provided and sloshing in excess? New Labour also follow the neoliberal donor model, and they will not be standing by the people who need the state to ensure this asset of public health remains fit for purpose at the best price to taxpayers - Blair's opening of NHS to free markets weakened our economy of scale that helped protect it as a large body from drug price hiking by big pharma, and Starmer is every bit likely to action the rest of the neoliberal plan - it has been a very long time in planning, this steal, and required millions be spent by those who wish to possess the profits from it, at the expense of the public, mainly by oversees would be 'investors'. What kind of political party, or politician enables foreign interference to destabilise the lives of the very people that they profess to serve? Every other story we are fed through the media is a distraction, a smoke screen so that we blindly mandate these bad faith actors to rob us and our families blind. It wasn't enough to create a pyramid scheme out of our public housing stock, leaving our young with dire housing options of rooms in HMOs, and drained of the funds to find lives of their own, always someone and something else to fleece for the cash that those at the top are burning of decadence hedonism and rolling stone futures - like so many high rolling gamblers (only with our hard earned and scraped money).

@susannamarker2582

2 күн бұрын

Starmer is a closet communist. You can't vote Starmer. Nasty tax surprises on the way. Farage won't get enough seats to make a difference now. He is preparing for 2029. The safe bet is actually Rishi Sunak. Q4 2024 is at 2.2%. My vote is with Rishi Sunak.

@susannamarker2582

2 күн бұрын

​@@juliahartshorn2473Bla bla bla bla. Who is going to read such a long post ? Think before you type.

"Blair had a strong record on peace in the Middle East" This had me screaming what on Earth is she blithering about.

It's 2024 and people still can't get the mic and audio levels right 🙄

@stuartmenziesfarrant

Күн бұрын

I was thinking that!

@garylynch9206

Күн бұрын

Piss poor audio

I usually like to listen to Hitchens, but, I’m stumped by his promotion of the Uniparty. We should vote for what we believe, encouraging tactical voting is an act designed to undermine free speech and democracy.

@georgerj2419

4 күн бұрын

Yes. Nothing will change, if people keep voting for the same parties.

As somebody who is on disability who is on housing list who is looking at 5+ years wait and who is forced to live with family due ot this but other get priority because they come here with no links so they are considered homeless and are priority i need to be homeless to be a priority.... also low skilled work is filled and hard to find for people who are low skilled due to disability let alone the support to get ppl into work. ill be voting reform just for a change in way of thinking of equality and fair cuz I don't see it or feel it.

@claudiavonayres9186

5 күн бұрын

If you are in that situation then it is proof that the old system has let you down. 🤷‍♀️

@Xeeni87

5 күн бұрын

@@claudiavonayres9186 sadly i live in Wales so im in labour area so trust me when i say if ur in a position I'm in ur fked (harsh word needed) when they get into office .. but i also know its same position in England ... neither party sees people in my position. Hence why i find myself cant vote for either ... i voted Tories for Brexit hoping for a change in thinking with brexit to be more inner focused and getting people with disabilities to help lower job and being more productive but never happened. Feeling let down is a understatement.

@ashmash1934

5 күн бұрын

@@Xeeni87 +1. I'm in Wales. Labour bring socialist decay everywhere they go. It's depressing to watch. The philosophy of resentment, jealousy and emotionality is extremely destructive. People think it's bad now, they have no idea what's coming! #VoteReform

@Xeeni87

5 күн бұрын

@@ashmash1934 hear hear

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Reform are for the disabled. Vote Reform ❤

Yesterday one of the electoral candidates for Bristol central was refused admission to the hustings. She had to protest and seek admission directly to the event management. After nearly an hour they eventually let her into the building. Even then she was passed over when the floor was open to questions the convenor refused to accept questions from this one particular parliamentary candidate. Her party is standing for the right of women to refuse men entry into spaces intended to protect the safety and modesty of women. Places like; - women's prisons, - rape crisis centres, - women's refuges, - hospital wards, - changing rooms, - women's sporting competitions, - women's toilets and - women only online forums. The candidate is 4ft 11 inches high, smartly presented, and acting politely and calmly. As calmly as anyone being treated like this can expect to act. While at the hustings she received abusive jeers from people in the audience that she was promoting fascist ideology. This rudeness received no reprimand from the candidates or the convenors of the husting while a number of the audience came to her defence in outrage.

@everythingisupsidedown9593

4 күн бұрын

Feminists caused thie mess. Lay in the bed you made!

@kay1625

4 күн бұрын

Kellie-Jay Keen POW Party Of Women!

@harrietcanwell2058

4 күн бұрын

Yes I’m voting for her party candidate in Herts - POW!

Love Matt Goodwin

@swordfish7165

4 күн бұрын

articulate & incisive.

1:11 Russia didn't cut off the oil and gas the GAE did and the EU and UK just cucked right along. Now we still buy Rus oil and gas but through third parties at higher prices. Stupid.

@andrewbaldwin4454

4 күн бұрын

Quite so, and let's not forget unindicted war criminal Joe Biden blowing up the Nordstream 1 and 2 pipelines. Even if he is a one-term president he may still have a go at blowing up the Turkstream pipeline.

Yes Peter, I am a human being with a will and a mind. Which is why the insipid and inept two party system we have has to fall. Starting with the Tories and Labour will be next. Voting Reform.

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Change has to start somewhere. Why not now? Otherwise we go on endlessly and nothing changes. Vote Reform on July 4th and start that process. Yes it might take 5/6 years like Matt says. But start that process now so in 5-6 years we get that real change we crave in British politics. And better future for our kids. Vote Reform July 4th

@alexanderh2345

4 күн бұрын

How can you predict what will happen in 5-6 years? And will Reform actually be what you want it to be then?

@dontcallthemliberals3316

4 күн бұрын

He calls Starmer a cynic but then scoffs at reform. Every fucking election is the literal apocalypse if labour get in. Man needs new talking points, it's all way too personal for him.

@LabRat003

2 күн бұрын

@@alexanderh2345 Time will tell, let’s be honest here though both Labour and Conservative have failed miserably for years.

@alexanderh2345

2 күн бұрын

@@LabRat003 And Labour is about the get the win if the conservatives split. Peter’s point is that Labour is so much worse. So is it really worth it?

Thank you for this and especially thank you Flo! You were wittily wonderful and honestly funny! Lifting the level of the conversation through shining a authentic light on politics reality.

I admire the bravery of the Labour lady. She deserves respect for turning up and taking part. She was beautiful, well-meaning and well-spoken. However, seeing her just repeat vacuous slogans - like a child repeating lines from their parent - also filled me with a slight terror. It seems the Labour leadership have deliberately filled their party, and soon the parliament, with these innocent lambs.

@randalldraco3822

4 күн бұрын

As every communist ever - inner circle of power and lots of yes-man to surround themselves. Brainwashed drones

@andrewcheadle948

4 күн бұрын

I'm.pretty sure she's not that innocent. To suggest she's so innocent is also to suggest that she's totally thick, which she isn't. She's just deranged!

@dontcallthemliberals3316

4 күн бұрын

The smirk on her face as she looked the mother in the eye and said labour will keep the peace. The innocence is a facade.

@copperlocks

4 күн бұрын

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 I think by that point she was just completely lost. It was like she'd never been confronted with alternative opinions in real life before. She might watch this back and wise up a little. However, if she was standing as an actual MP the Labour Party wouldn't have even allowed her to come here in the first place. Labour have basically replaced politicians with the sort of women you'd normally find working in HR departments - i.e. women that are careerist and sociable, but that aren't thinkers. The Labour parliament will just be a PR department for the state, filled with people that have no idea what's happening out in the country, and no idea what the state is actually doing.

@davidbettney785

4 күн бұрын

100% :)

I dont understand Peter Hitchins argument, dont pay attention to the polls, dont look around to see what other people are doing, think for yourself. Well i joined Reform nearly 3 years ago now so dont care what the polls have been saying. I will be voting Reform next week because I could see years ago that Tories and Labour were completely out of touch with a vast amount of British people.

Rod Liddle, please stay healthy. We need you more than ever. Labour will ruin this country.

@davidbettney785

4 күн бұрын

Rod is good for "another" 100 years :)

Reform for me!

@majiek1304

4 күн бұрын

Change has to start somewhere. Why not now? Otherwise we go on endlessly and nothing changes. Vote Reform on July 4th and start that process. Yes it might take 5/6 years like Matt says. But start that process now so in 5-6 years we get that real change we crave in British politics. And better future for our kids. Vote Reform July 4th

A good debate, but poor quality upload. The speech was so distorted in places that I really couldn't follow what was being said.

Thank you UnHerd for organizing and posting online this insightful & good-humoured 'hustings', and thanks to all the participants! Fascinating. I am sympathetic to Peter's pov but where I live in London (Hammersmith & Chiswick constituency) Labour has a big majority which isn't going to change in next Thursday vote, so I figure that a vote for Reform is not unreasonable. Were it a Labour/Conservative marginal I'd vote Conservative.

I wish this had more views. It is so relevant.

@georgerj2419

4 күн бұрын

That’s true, dear. Still I would say just the speech of Goodwin should be viewed more.

Hey Rowenna, you could have gone to North Croydon (Thornton Heath) in the early 2000s and see what the Labor government achieved with its open border immigration methods with Croydon being the dumping ground and waiting room for global migrants. The place was absolutely ruined and is now a shell of itself. Weird you didn’t mention that side of Croydon.

The only good thing about a Labour government is that everyone will have the opportunity to see just how bad they are. 2029 is a while away but probably a long time before that we will all be able to see that a mistake has been made.

Love Peter Hitchens smiling at the green speech

Sorry Peter, Conservative Party are the ONES to blame for their failures. Voting Reform because my voice has been IGNORED by Conservative Party.

I couldnt vote labour and i wouldnt give the Conservatives after they have lied constantly, i shall be voting reform!

"It's a bikini what it conceals is far more important than what it reveals" best line so far.

Let's just take a moment to consider all of those lovely fluffy kitten qualities of the Green candidates...& in particular, one big Star Wars fan "Admiral Ackbaaaarrrrr!"

@randalldraco3822

4 күн бұрын

The one from Hawaian restaurant Aloha Snackbar?

The Labour advocate is incredibly deluded. Undoubtedly intelligent, but working overtime in trying (and failing) to mask the party's true agenda. Also, humourlessness to the max.

Reform is the new norm!! Vote Reform UK!!

Love Matt Goodwin. We will be voting Reform.

Matts on fire 🔥 cant wait for him to stand as a reform mp in 2029

@christiankreps5920

4 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

Mass immigration is our most urgent problem affecting our national prosperity and safety. Vote Reform.

I don't believe Starmer as he never answers a question directly, and was a great supporter of Corbyn.

Good man Freddie! He says loo instead of the T word. Ahhh, it makes me happy to know there are still some traditionally brought up English gentlemen under 70 in this country.

@ohwellwhateverr

4 күн бұрын

What a strange takeaway!

@ashmash1934

4 күн бұрын

@@ohwellwhateverr It wasn't my 'takeaway'. I just wrote it spontaneously when Freddie said it at the interval, mainly to see if I was alone in noticing. The smattering of likes it got in 30 minutes is enough to make me happy. I'm not alone. My actual takeaway is more like: 'we probably shouldn't have given women the vote'. ;)

@grannyannie2948

4 күн бұрын

Australians still say loo

@ashmash1934

4 күн бұрын

@@grannyannie2948 Good on them! I've always had a soft spot for Aussies. The word toilet makes me shudder almost as much as 'serviette'.

@tobyyorke2539

4 күн бұрын

@@ashmash1934where do you stand (or sit) on “lavatory”?

Hitchens has officially beclowned himself into oblivion

@georgerj2419

4 күн бұрын

That cracks me up. Poor Pete can’t think outside the box.

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat

3 күн бұрын

When the actual time comes for the type of real change he proposes - he always back away from it. He did over Brexit, after years of writing very critical things of the EU with regards to German expansionism, the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties - doesn't bother to vote in the referendum. Opposed lockdowns from the start - but then takes the "cure" to be able to travel and says that "people just have to accept these types of restrictions from now" - saying look at the opinion polls(which in this debate he dismisses). From the 2000s, says the Tories are part of uniparty block of metropolitan liberalism and have to be destroyed in order for something better to come along - now when there's a very real chance of doing that - "we have to vote Tory other it will be Blair Mk. 2 under Starmer(who is going to win any way)". He doesn't have the courage of his convictions.

@tortuedelanuit2299

3 күн бұрын

@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Spot on!

Good chat. Informative. Video kept blacking out. Audio was cut frequently, so I missed a fair bit. Come on, Unheard, surely you can do better

Wow the labour woman sank. She came off as aggressively dogmatic.

@danielearley5062

4 күн бұрын

and utterly intolerant of anyone else.

@sticksman1979

2 күн бұрын

Have a word with yourself.

Why weren't any sound checks performed on Freddie's microphone before comencement?

Flo's finishing flourish on her opening presentation was great 🙂, she's also right that people are angry about the main two parties for their similarity, slavishness to above state institutions that mean we lack agility and freedom to do what is right for the country. I don't want to vote for any of the options at the moment, but will have to make a statement with my vote and that is to try and help fire a rocket up the ass of Cons and Labour because they both need it doing.

it seems to be a requirement to be a smug self righteous virtue signaller in order to be a labour politician or supporter. The childlike shaking of the head of Rowenna at every opportunity is embarrassing yet all too familiar of anyone associated with the party

Sir Kia was not much good at prosiicuting muslim raoists in Rotheram was he .......

@everythingisupsidedown9593

4 күн бұрын

Or jimmy saville

Peter, Rod and Matt, the Dylan, Keef and Ronnie Wood of real opposition politics.

Women make up about 50% of the UK population. The fact that all 50% of them, are not supporting parties like Reform UK, which will make the UK safer for women, but still vote for other political parties that are prepared to lower, the already, low bar of women safety, is mind blowing.

I totally agree that Reform cannot fix every problem we currently have but as was said "they are asking the right questions" to enable them to actually tackle them all with time. Every other party is happy that the people suffer, its profitable for them.

Matt Goodwin, brilliant. ❤ We need a third party. Reform is the only option.

Hitchens is so pompous. Always spends most of his time talking about himself rather than the issue at hand.

I do sympathise with Hitchens - however, agree with Matt that we have to make a break for it...we can't prop up an unsuitable party because it's the least bad option. If our change of direction takes a little longer, well, at least we'll have started and have a plan.

Flo Read is hilarious!

“I don’t take orders from Nazis” Ok then luv….. REFORM!

@odotb9916

4 күн бұрын

No sense of humour whatsoever.

@autumnleaves2766

Күн бұрын

But she'd be happy for Labour to dish out orders from the far left perspective of course if they were elected.

Kier Starmer is Tony Blair’s puppet. Don’t say you weren’t warned