Peter Criss SUCKS?? Try Playing His Most Famous Beat!

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  • @syx9986
    @syx9986 Жыл бұрын

    Peter took drum lessons from Gene Krupa himself. A lot of people don't realize he's a jazz drummer playing heavy rock. This is the main style difference between him and the other drummers in KISS.

  • @LouieLouie3

    @LouieLouie3

    Жыл бұрын

    His boyhood friend drummer Jerry Nolan (New York Dolls) also gave him some drumming tips.

  • @burntvirtue

    @burntvirtue

    Жыл бұрын

    The Gene Krupa story has been repeated for years, but is actually of questionable veracity unfortunately. Either way Peter turned out great.

  • @Bona19646

    @Bona19646

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting though, to hear Paul Stanley speak of Peter Criss’s abilities, he excoriates him, as not even knowing the basic parts of a song. Paul mercilessly criticizes Peter in his book.

  • @tikitorturedmf

    @tikitorturedmf

    Жыл бұрын

    No he didn’t. Nevertheless, he’s great!

  • @waltervillalba1000

    @waltervillalba1000

    Жыл бұрын

    Jazz? Mmm...

  • @loganscheivert8778
    @loganscheivert8778 Жыл бұрын

    Love the fact you're acknowledging Peter's brilliant subtleties. His 70s drumming was so tasty. Shame people fail to recognize it as much as he deserves

  • @KISStributeNYC97

    @KISStributeNYC97

    Жыл бұрын

    So true. I think as time has passed, he has been getting more and more recognition for what he brought to the band.

  • @RobbyBloodshed

    @RobbyBloodshed

    Жыл бұрын

    Love to see the November Coming Fire album cover as a profile picture on a random video 👌🏼

  • @keithcamardelle739

    @keithcamardelle739

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, agreed, Peter does not get the recognition he deserves most of the time. I'm 57, been playing drums since about age 11, and I always tell people that Peter Criss taught me how to play drums, he just didn't know it! While no one would ever put him up there with Peart or Bonham, he was the right guy for KISS, and the formula worked! So awesome to see someone this guy's age recognizing the genius of an underrated and sometimes bashed drum legend!

  • @benthomas8765

    @benthomas8765

    Жыл бұрын

    I love Peter. Became a kiss fan in 2000 at 15, and started drums because of him. Was lucky to see him that same year on the real farewell tour.

  • @tisbonus

    @tisbonus

    Жыл бұрын

    Late 70's is Anton Fig.

  • @markdawsonziglar9436
    @markdawsonziglar943611 ай бұрын

    The “Peter Criss shuffle” works for me. I’ve been able to run through that 100,000 Years drum solo in my head for years. Peter was always underestimated, but he and Ace were really the true musicians in the band.

  • @jayhudson4666

    @jayhudson4666

    11 ай бұрын

    Facts!!!

  • @stinkypinkeee5085

    @stinkypinkeee5085

    11 ай бұрын

    Gene is an excellent bassist...listen to the isolated bass line on "Save Your Love" from 'Dynasty'...I don't even know how he thought of it, but it is awesome...

  • @scottd2605

    @scottd2605

    11 ай бұрын

    You're right Gene Simmons baseline is real simple Paul Stanley's rhythm is simple Ace frehley was a hell of a guitarist switching from rhythms of the lead Peter Criss's awesome drummer he deserve a lot more credit the original lineup Gene-Paul Ace Peter is the best lineup they had.

  • @scottd2605

    @scottd2605

    11 ай бұрын

    @@stinkypinkeee5085 simple baseline hey great bassist has a guitar with no frets

  • @frankieshankly5368

    @frankieshankly5368

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats true but none of them would be anything without each other, one could also say they were the true alcohol/drug-addicts in the band

  • @daleanderson2340
    @daleanderson23407 ай бұрын

    Thanks for recognizing his skills. He's one of my favorites drummers. Had the pleasure to meet him. He's also a nice guy as well!

  • @skatertrev7
    @skatertrev7 Жыл бұрын

    Those first 4 KISS records have tons of hidden gems. Some of Gene's basslines are fantastic too.

  • @brianraap8543

    @brianraap8543

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Gene's playing was awesome in those days. Plus he did those lines and sung.

  • @williambain2646

    @williambain2646

    Жыл бұрын

    The baselines really show the Beatles influence that the bass carries it’s own countermelody rather than following the song.

  • @pdxpete48

    @pdxpete48

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. I just saw a video the other day about Gene not liking his singing part on 'Iwas made for loving you' I thought yeah it's kind of boring but then you hear those bass licks and it just rocks!

  • @don-music

    @don-music

    Жыл бұрын

    agree... back when Gene cared about playing bass, he was a great bassist, much more interesting to listen to than paul's guitar playing....

  • @davideskelin5807

    @davideskelin5807

    Жыл бұрын

    I love the debut album because of the bass.

  • @bassmanjohn7237
    @bassmanjohn7237 Жыл бұрын

    Peter's early drumming kicked butt! Plus, I always loved his vocals too!

  • @Hauri1972

    @Hauri1972

    Жыл бұрын

    Beth was and to this day is one of my favorite songs

  • @supersonicT

    @supersonicT

    Жыл бұрын

    Black Diamond, 'nuff said.

  • @kevinchandler179

    @kevinchandler179

    Жыл бұрын

    He is my absolute favorite drummer ever, and if you U-tube any old school Kiss and see his drum solos, absolutely fantastic!! Jungle rhythm and jazz filled riffs and he has this unique big band swing thing and he was actually technically sound, and instilled it into Rock and Roll!!! Team Peter

  • @dennispugh2472

    @dennispugh2472

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see someone agreeing with me I like his vocals better than Paul's

  • @dennispugh2472

    @dennispugh2472

    Жыл бұрын

    @Seba Tarth you are 100 percent correct .way better than Paul Stanley

  • @airdog1829
    @airdog182910 ай бұрын

    Same goes for Ace. Listen to the solos on Alive. Unmistakable and no one else on the planet could achieve that feel and tone.

  • @robertcrawford8923

    @robertcrawford8923

    6 ай бұрын

    Ace's solos on Alive II are good as well. Shock Me one of his best IMO.

  • @MountainsBreath

    @MountainsBreath

    6 ай бұрын

    Kiss sucks

  • @skollybob

    @skollybob

    6 ай бұрын

    Don't be silly There's a hundred on KZread alone could play Ace. Go watch Igor Paspalj

  • @triplej8666

    @triplej8666

    5 ай бұрын

    lol we are not talking about some dude with crazy good technique, we are talking about the feel and tone of ace, no one can recreate that, theres hundreds of covers online, but none sound like ace@@skollybob

  • @thebeetbandit1732

    @thebeetbandit1732

    5 ай бұрын

    My favorite version of Let me go rock n roll is the Alive! version because I love how much they added to the song's live version. Ace makes a mistake or two lol and it's still my favorite version as it is.

  • @kristgeo
    @kristgeo6 ай бұрын

    Peter Criss is the reason I began taking drum lessons as a kid. That live version of the song was always one of my favorites.

  • @matcoffidis1135
    @matcoffidis1135 Жыл бұрын

    I love the drumming on Shock Me. It's a really creative part. It's a shame the classic lineup lasted as short as it did. To me, that's when Kiss sounded the best..

  • @mh2120

    @mh2120

    Жыл бұрын

    The drums on Shock Me were played by Anton Fig, at least for the studio recording. Peter did a pretty solid version live on Alive II, however.

  • @dankfingers

    @dankfingers

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mh2120I don't think that's Anton. Some of the drum fills are more intricate than what Peter would usually play but the overall feel sounds like Peter to me.

  • @chuckgatlin3203

    @chuckgatlin3203

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t think Anton played on anything until Ace’s solo record.

  • @dirkworld

    @dirkworld

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mh2120 Anton did NOT play on shock me. Its peter.

  • @dennisgallant9411

    @dennisgallant9411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mh2120 Nope it's Peter not Anton. Anton didn't appear on a Kiss band LP until Dynasty and of course he plays on all of Ace's solo LP.

  • @timmycooper2504
    @timmycooper2504 Жыл бұрын

    Eddie Kramer actually even said that Peter's drums were the least edited part on Kiss Alive. He is an amazing drummer and has inspired so many drummers today. He is a legend and no one can take that from him, not even Gene and Paul lol. Long live the true one and only Catman.

  • @DanYule55

    @DanYule55

    Жыл бұрын

    He was probably the best on his instrument out of the 4.

  • @vgr112261

    @vgr112261

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DanYule55 funny

  • @BillBlazejowski

    @BillBlazejowski

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DanYule55 Ace was the best musician from the start.

  • @flyingburritobro68

    @flyingburritobro68

    11 ай бұрын

    I’ve heard that but on the next album Destroyer Bob Ezrin the producer had trouble getting Criss to play anything usable. By the time they got to Dynasty they were using session guys like Anton Fig as Criss was so bad

  • @nebbyscumbold

    @nebbyscumbold

    11 ай бұрын

    @@flyingburritobro68 That's not true. Peter Criss was not a great drummer by any means, but he was good enough to be in that band from the start. He was part of a signed band called Chelsea before he was in KISS anyway. There was nothing bad about Peter Criss' drumming at all, he just wasn't a virtuoso like Ginger Baker or Keith Moon. In fact he was probably a better drummer than Paul Stanley was a guitarist. Bob Ezrin complained about ALL of the band as he felt they were poor musicians, even Ace (who was undeniably the most technically gifted of the four); he was astounded that they didn't even know how to tune their instruments. By the time they got to Dynasty Peter Criss had gotten into a serious car accident so was physically unable to play. By KISS Unmasked he had fallen out of favour with the band. You can glean this information by reading all of their autobiographies; Peter Criss' is by far the best of the four by the way.

  • @roquefortfiles
    @roquefortfiles7 ай бұрын

    His drumming on Alive is fabulous!! Really a show piece. The solo on 100,000 is amazing.

  • @jayrudie1600

    @jayrudie1600

    4 ай бұрын

    Probably my favorite drum solo of all time, to this day I will play it for people who weren't necessarily Kiss fans and they are taken aback by it

  • @craigcampbell2905

    @craigcampbell2905

    3 ай бұрын

    Does your album say "100,000" too, like mine, instead of "100,000 Years?" I always wondered if that would make it a valuable collectors' item.

  • @user-os4wk3fq7y

    @user-os4wk3fq7y

    24 күн бұрын

    I once.had an album that had the KISS Asylum album on Side One and John Cougar Mellencamp on Side Two. That mighr have been worth something. It was a misprint by the record company that they were with at the time, Mercury Records.

  • @tombrowne1251
    @tombrowne125110 ай бұрын

    Peter Criss was the real deal back in the day.He has influenced so many amazing drummers .His drumming on the first six Kiss records changed the rock world.

  • @williamtaylor9368

    @williamtaylor9368

    8 ай бұрын

    Sorry Bro, Bill Ward and Ian Paice changed the rock world followed by John Bonham.

  • @SHOGUN18875

    @SHOGUN18875

    7 ай бұрын

    @@williamtaylor9368 smart ass

  • @kevinstrong8265

    @kevinstrong8265

    6 ай бұрын

    @@williamtaylor9368 Well, 3 people agree with ya. I give them all their do, but you don't. Peter Criss was a bad ass drummer in the 70's.

  • @beatlesrgear

    @beatlesrgear

    6 ай бұрын

    @@williamtaylor9368 Hey, don't forget Mitch Mitchell and Ginger Baker.

  • @captainjefferies9047

    @captainjefferies9047

    Ай бұрын

    @@williamtaylor9368 You think those guys are Bonham's league? Ward copied Bonham. Paice is irrelevant.

  • @BigBass-xf5yi
    @BigBass-xf5yi Жыл бұрын

    100,00 years from alive1 is my absolute favorite live Kiss recording of all time. Pete’s drums,Paul’s vocal delivery, Aces guitar licks,all gold……

  • @Invictus13666

    @Invictus13666

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol “live recording”

  • @mikesmith3342

    @mikesmith3342

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Invictus13666 Umm, you can also watch live videos, for example the excellent Cobo Hall stuff from January 1976.

  • @Invictus13666

    @Invictus13666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikesmith3342 whenever people begin a reply with “umm” I simply have zero idea what they’re attempting to communicate, as the remaining words aren’t read. If you think your comment important or interesting, try again without the ridiculous affect.

  • @rediron44

    @rediron44

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Invictus13666 how about just not be a dick? If you aren't a fan, simply don't watch the video, and go away..

  • @rediron44

    @rediron44

    Жыл бұрын

    KISS Alive is one of the best live albums of all time..

  • @TheSylvanpass
    @TheSylvanpass Жыл бұрын

    Nice job. I think much of what Peter Criss did on those early albums was unique and solid and certainly not pedestrian. He doesn't get his due. Thank you for this.

  • @duane8829

    @duane8829

    Жыл бұрын

    Drugs really took a toll on him in his later years with kiss

  • @philrogersmusician6078
    @philrogersmusician60786 ай бұрын

    He's a great drummer. Peter Criss did one of the best, if not the best, drum solos i have ever heard 100,000 years

  • @sebg2086

    @sebg2086

    5 ай бұрын

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • @captainjefferies9047

    @captainjefferies9047

    Ай бұрын

    He's okay.

  • @frank.l181

    @frank.l181

    Ай бұрын

    Try Ian Paice from deep Purple, would wipe the floor with him. KISS were not great musicians except for Ace frealy.

  • @coldacre
    @coldacre5 ай бұрын

    Criss is a killer drummer! his groove on "Dr Love" is amazing. listen to the isolated tracks. SO much swing & groove. what he plays on "She" is incredible. so much energy. Cat-Man forever!

  • @arronjoseph8340
    @arronjoseph8340 Жыл бұрын

    This video is literally pound for pound why Peter Criss is one of my all time favorite drummers and why I love his drumming so much. Down to the fact he’s talking about the same exact beat I love by him so much and even calling it the “Criss Shuffle” himself

  • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917

    @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a real irony in this because, at the time, this particular song would eventually lead to him being kicked out of the band. He played the drum part, but he didn't actually come up with it, the producer came up with the drum parts and had to teach Peter how to play them, which he struggled with. So, on the Destroyer album you had Peter playing these amazing groovy drum parts that were taught to him by the producer of the album, and recording a hit song with him on vocals that was written by a friend of his. So, he had an ego that was both earned a d unearned. The solo albums were what really killed his time in the band because the members were introduced to session musicians that could play the parts without the ego. Apparently Peter became insufferable towards the end, mainly because of Beth being the band's biggest pop hit.

  • @arronjoseph8340

    @arronjoseph8340

    6 ай бұрын

    He played the same shuffle beat on alive one and the first kiss album waaaay before destroyer. His drumming on the first alive album is some of the most raw crazy drumming I’ve heard. And I mean that in the best way. But I do know the whole story of that. I read all the original members books and he certainly had a big ego come the late 70’s. Still wouldn’t downplay his playin in his prime

  • @MrMetalclay
    @MrMetalclay Жыл бұрын

    I always think about Parasite. Funny thing is that I heard Anthrax cover first. When I heard the Kiss version, I was blown away, that groove is very alluring

  • @bigdaddy2123

    @bigdaddy2123

    9 ай бұрын

    Watchin you live is good too

  • @cvr527

    @cvr527

    Ай бұрын

    I love Parasite.

  • @poeslanding
    @poeslanding11 ай бұрын

    He was a phenomenal drummer. If you watch the video for 100,000 years unalive, you can see that he’s making all the notes. I wish he would’ve kept up his craft later on in life.

  • @krisskriss1223
    @krisskriss1223Ай бұрын

    Who hate Criss drumming know nothing about drumming...

  • @Stevo_Drums
    @Stevo_Drums Жыл бұрын

    Peter absolutely inspired me! He was my “Ringo Starr” but about a decade later. I was 9 when K I⚡️⚡️Alive was released, and man that was exciting!

  • @AlmostReady504

    @AlmostReady504

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes total sense. 👍🏻

  • @23ograin53
    @23ograin53 Жыл бұрын

    You can really hear it during the guitar solo. It's just great drumming. Gene Simmons actually complemented Peter not long ago saying that the drummers who have played in KISS after Peter had more technical ability but "no one in rock swings like Peter Criss."

  • @hawkeyeted

    @hawkeyeted

    Жыл бұрын

    He was being nice to Peter.

  • @JamesSteeleProjectVideos
    @JamesSteeleProjectVideos6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for posting this! When this video started I just knew you were going to talk about the groove in Detroit Rock City. I played in cover bands years ago with several different drummers and maybe ONE of them actually got this right. It never quite felt the way it should. Hats off to Peter.

  • @markberkowitz1088
    @markberkowitz10882 ай бұрын

    I’m glad you pulled this apart… always loved those little ghost notes- glad you were able to show them off.

  • @dancunningham6175
    @dancunningham6175 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss was my first drum hero. His parts seem so simple until you start to understand all of the nuance. Really fun songs to play at any skill level.

  • @thiccboi4281

    @thiccboi4281

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@James Rudd I don't know I think what he said is pretty logical. Peter criss is a decent enough drummer and he's definitely got a good few beats under his belt so I don't see why someone who knows about drumming wouldn't enjoy him.

  • @Voitcu

    @Voitcu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thiccboi4281 Name a player worse than Peter Criss if he's so good then, I'll wait...And while your at it, you can do the same for every band member. Like Ace is such a great guitar layer LOL

  • @rickgangi3824
    @rickgangi3824 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss had the best feel of all the Kiss drummers... A lot of soul.

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777

    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777

    Ай бұрын

    why does KIZZ go through so many drummers?

  • @beatlesrgear
    @beatlesrgear6 ай бұрын

    When Peter's body is void of drugs & alcohol, he is a fantastic drummer. He has a unique style all his own which is recognizable (like Ringo's style is recognizable) and he is one of my main influences in drumming. Playing Detroit Rock City correctly without error takes some real stamina and concentration. It's not easy. I like Eric Carr and have a lot of respect for him, but Peter is the original and the man we're hearing on all of those classic Kiss songs (except on some of Dynasty). Go Catman!

  • @MajorChaos614
    @MajorChaos61410 ай бұрын

    That was awesome thanks for sharing. PC has always been my favorite drummer. His jazz background really comes through in alot of his stuff especially on his solo stuff

  • @huntersutton5489
    @huntersutton5489 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss is my favorite drummer and one of my favorite singers.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 Жыл бұрын

    Peter has always been an underrated drummer in my opinion, the dude was a great player and his parts really helped define early KISS

  • @KISStributeNYC97

    @KISStributeNYC97

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you!

  • @bwalmsley5087
    @bwalmsley50874 ай бұрын

    I loved Kiss and always thought that flanger effect was the coolest thing ever. Made the drums sound like a jet airplane. My first album I got was Dynasty and first cassette was Alive 1. Good memories!!

  • @scottcollins5060
    @scottcollins5060Ай бұрын

    Thank you so very much for the love of everyone's favorite drumming CAT, .... Peter Criss. I saw you brother in 76' and 77' Greensboro, NC. Thanks for the show of a life time.

  • @brianraap8543
    @brianraap8543 Жыл бұрын

    Peter was a beast in his day. The band was on point in the early/ mid 70's. Thanks for acknowledging him.

  • @asymptoticspatula
    @asymptoticspatula Жыл бұрын

    I've learned that a good rule of thumb is that these are PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, no matter how you look at it, they are almost all absolutely fantastic at what they're doing, especially the older ones who have been touring for decades.

  • @bigwillie5717
    @bigwillie5717 Жыл бұрын

    Cool video for a guy who rarely gets props from other drummers, Criss. As a burgeoning drummer when I sanded 2 twigs down for drum sticks to air drum to the radio when I was 8 y/o back in ‘77, KISS Alive II was my intro to Peter’s awesome live playing. Very underrated.

  • @brendonpenn3126
    @brendonpenn312611 ай бұрын

    Well done, your initiation to KISS and Peter Criss were much like mine. I like how you broke that down where anyone even without drumming background could understand what you were talking about. Thank you for doing this video, it was great!

  • @robertkroberjr.157
    @robertkroberjr.157 Жыл бұрын

    I love the first "Alive" album! I also had it on 8-track! 😎✌️

  • @mickster4455

    @mickster4455

    Жыл бұрын

    That was my very first album as a teen... and still have it! Their best album by far in my opinion.

  • @don-music
    @don-music Жыл бұрын

    Peter was a fantastic RnB and Rock drummer..... and he was a HELL of a lead and harmony vocalist as well.... great to hear this...

  • @rollinjukebox

    @rollinjukebox

    Жыл бұрын

    Huh? Peter couldn’t sing his way out of a wet paper sack.

  • @_Common_Logic_

    @_Common_Logic_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rollinjukebox - You can't deny his soft "ballad" vocals and certainly not his ability to harmonize... As far as chewing through the paper sack goes, I think he's done that too, on occasion. More than your average drummer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpmJ0dWbc8_Hl5s.html&ab_channel=KISSbestfan

  • @caelidhg6261

    @caelidhg6261

    Жыл бұрын

    one of my favorite KISS Songs is Black Diamond..

  • @basketcase6999

    @basketcase6999

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rollinjukebox Are we talking about the same Peter here? Widely regarded as the best voice in Kiss?

  • @biguglytrux7771

    @biguglytrux7771

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rollinjukebox come on dude. that's what made peter's voice cool. how about baby driver and hard lick woman? it's a tough wild somebody bout to get hurt scratchy screamin vocal

  • @danedearmond4905
    @danedearmond49056 ай бұрын

    Peter Criss is the guy who got me into being a amateur drummer as a kid growing up. As a kid, he proved to me you don't have to be the flashy-ist and out there drummer to be an effective and solid drummer. Sometimes keeping it a little more "tame" allows the other band members a chance to shine.

  • @briankoncyk3379
    @briankoncyk3379Ай бұрын

    Thanks for covering Peter and enlightening those that may not have known how awesome Peter's early stuff was! So many people back in the day did know how good he was and that is why so many were influenced by him. Great job!

  • @renemies78
    @renemies78 Жыл бұрын

    The drum fills that he plays on the Alive! version of "Got To Chose" are so damn good. I've never even attempted to play it because it's too difficult for me. Glad Peter Criss, Ringo Starr, and Lars Ulrich get some love from you on your channel!

  • @Provos7777

    @Provos7777

    11 ай бұрын

    It's insane how much people dog them.

  • @RockoEstalon

    @RockoEstalon

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Provos7777 The thing with Lars isn't that he was a bad drummer in the compositinos, the issue is that he's always off time live (maybe he played tighter when he was younger).

  • @minibikegarage1577

    @minibikegarage1577

    7 ай бұрын

    Lars straight up sucks ass bro, any one who has any musical knowledge whatsoever knows his fills suck and he can't keep time for shit.

  • @Lopez-my1bo

    @Lopez-my1bo

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@RockoEstalon lars stopped practicing during the mid 90s probably due to him being more than a drummer for the band. He has his moments in recent times tho

  • @Nissardpertugiu

    @Nissardpertugiu

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Lopez-my1boIts not just stop practicing. You think when you play 3 hour set on 3 years straight tours have non impact physically and mentally ?

  • @gilbertspader7974
    @gilbertspader7974 Жыл бұрын

    As a kid in NY I saw these guys at bars and it was amazing !!!!! I have never heard a recording of them that touched the power and excitement as them live.

  • @pantagruel30
    @pantagruel309 күн бұрын

    Absolutely appropriate. Thank you for nailing this.

  • @kerijan2003
    @kerijan2003Ай бұрын

    Saw him doing it live in Moncton, N.B. (Canada) in 1977. It was my "first" real rock concert, and my 16 year old mind was completely blown. One would see/hear me trying to play that exact beat for months after. Best memory I've ever had. Thanks KISS, and thank you The-Art-of-Guitar for reminding me of my youth.

  • @rdgSWwot
    @rdgSWwot Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike for sharing this video. Peter Criss deserves more respect. I took one drum lesson from Peter years back during his visit to Charlotte, NC. It was in 1994 when he did a small tour in support of his album Cat #1. Well before the reunion. I worked at NBC News at the time (network). His management team invited me down to see the show as we had NBC News Channel based there in Charlotte off Billy Graham (it's still there right beside WCNC). Still have the signed LP, a few pics and video of me with him.. and signed sticks he played that night. Peter played this show at The Capri, an old movie theater off E. Independence that opened in 1964. Today it's a Hertz Car Sales. Back then, Peter's band came in from the right side of the theater. His tour bus was in this huge parking lot. He did a soundcheck. I was there filming and had a chance to interview him. He walked me around his kit and showed me several old jazz tricks. He did use his "Peter Criss Shuffle" (lol I love that you tagged that in your video!). Several tricks he used in his drum solo that night. He played "UNDER" the kit.. shell shots and cymbal shots in an upward strike without giving up timing / tempo. Not sure if you've seen The Rippingtons (contemporary jazz band headed up by Russ Freeman - big in the late 80s and 90s). Their drummer did a walk-around stick solo -- keeping the groove on the kit, off the kit, down onto the stage floor, around the kit and back to the kit. Peter did a version of this that night. He was amazing to watch. Sadly, the show was a total bomb. The Capri had a 995 capacity limit. The Capri used to have seats.. but at that time it was mainly open floor standing room. That night, less than 100 people showed up to see Peter. They missed a true pro playing jazz grooves mixed into 70s/80s rock style. It was a hard rocking show with Beth being the only slow/ballad style number. He's a true artist and yeah, Gene Krupa is evident in everything Peter plays. THANKS MIKE for all you do!

  • @r.g.armstrong2688

    @r.g.armstrong2688

    11 ай бұрын

    Great story, thanks. Did you talk some about Eric Carr?

  • @noahs7700
    @noahs7700 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Mike. Peter Criss is my favorite Drummer of all time. It’s upsetting when Paul and Gene or anybody call him a bad Drummer.

  • @Tedanson

    @Tedanson

    Жыл бұрын

    I've never heard anyone criticize his playing more than his own band members

  • @j4r193

    @j4r193

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tedanson The reunion tour ...yeah, Peter sucked. He was great and I grew up defending him on being one of the best because of that solo. There is footage out that he crippled KISS because he wanted out the first time. When Eric Carr came in, I didn't care for but grew into enjoying what he did. He took it to another level like Eric Singer does with his amazing work at it. Peter was just great for that time and still one of my favorite drummers. Good or bad...KISS has always had that love-hate relationship that keeps each other in that lime and it sells.

  • @timshanemelton

    @timshanemelton

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, whenever that movie " Whiplash " was released. I automatically think of Peter Chris because of the quotes I heard of Paul Stanley's audiobook

  • @boarhog1979

    @boarhog1979

    Жыл бұрын

    That's because he is. He is a garbage drummer

  • @dalethelander3781

    @dalethelander3781

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@j4r193 Eric Carr pounded the skins like they owed him money.

  • @hawaiian8213
    @hawaiian821310 ай бұрын

    Gene's basslines are severely underrated, too. He does these little slides and "plucks" that everyone loves, but few notice. Thanks for giving the Catman some love ❤ 🤘

  • @oogskskfn

    @oogskskfn

    10 ай бұрын

    A lot of those records aren’t Gene. For instance Detroit rock City is a session bassist and not Gene

  • @Destin65

    @Destin65

    10 ай бұрын

    Yah, I'd say the Destroyer and Alive II eras had Kiss on top of the world and one of the best bands in the world with excellent musicianship at every position. But, sadly, something happened by the time they entered the 80s and some of the magic was lost.

  • @leopardus1201

    @leopardus1201

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Destin65Lol, the make-up era is one of the richest musically and technically, it's magical in another way and kicks ass as much as the classic years of the 70s.

  • @ronjames4151

    @ronjames4151

    8 ай бұрын

    Gene is mediocre bass player in a horrible band

  • @ollietamuff3340

    @ollietamuff3340

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ronjames4151 Take away the sideshow and gimmicks and you have a garage band.

  • @LiquidShadows71
    @LiquidShadows71 Жыл бұрын

    I been calling it The Peter Criss shuffle for decades ~ GREAT VIDEO MAN!!

  • @plonky17
    @plonky17 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss has always been a great drummer with a great shuffle beat.

  • @michaelcantley9843
    @michaelcantley9843 Жыл бұрын

    Got in to Kiss in 78, Peter's drumming on early Kiss stuff was fantastic. I always liked that shuffle/big band swing groove he would do. Definitely a huge part of the early Kiss sound and style. Thank you for highlighting how good Peter's stuff is.

  • @batrider63
    @batrider6322 күн бұрын

    I was so lucky to have seen them in '79 with all original members...such a memorable experience for my very first rock concert!

  • @alexandrebegin3951
    @alexandrebegin39516 ай бұрын

    Love your take. Simple, clean, to the point. Awesome

  • @TheArtofGuitar
    @TheArtofGuitar Жыл бұрын

    Some have pointed out 2 details: The use of a phaser instead of a flanger and the extra hat hits. Here's a link to the "addendum video" where I teach the missed hi-hat detail. Thanks to everyone who wrote in to let me know about it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3iYkrmDm8SyiZs.html

  • @musicalgroovesaucet.v.1789

    @musicalgroovesaucet.v.1789

    Жыл бұрын

    The Purdie shuffle mixed with a Bonham shuffle became the Porcarro shuffle and has nothing to do with Peter’s shuffle. I think his main argument is that people bash Peter because they parrot Gen and Paul’s ba over the years. The fact is Peter was an awesome drummer. What I find amusing is that Paul wanted a “Bonhamesque” drummer but he was no Jimmy Page 😂

  • @jroberts2nd

    @jroberts2nd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@machinebeard1639Why the fuck is he gonna talk about John Bonham in a video about a Peter Criss drum part that’s more difficult to play than it sounds?

  • @bigbaby9189

    @bigbaby9189

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? That’s unreal!

  • @hkguitar1984

    @hkguitar1984

    Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown of what Mr. Criss is actually doing. Back in the late 1970s the Drummer in the band I was in had a bit of difficulties with a few of the KISS songs, like yourself he was adamant about getting the groove/beat exact. Great Content, Thank You.

  • @rador9745

    @rador9745

    Жыл бұрын

    Good work digging into that groove. You predicted correctly that you’d get a response when you named it. The bottom line is ghost notes in a shuffle sound cool and they are fun to play regardless of what you call it. Cheers

  • @rickgrijalva9239
    @rickgrijalva9239 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss is legendary - I think people should never talk bad about this awesome drummer - Peter Criss shuffle - very cool

  • @DRUMTOY2002

    @DRUMTOY2002

    Жыл бұрын

    AMEN, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!!

  • @patrickwilliamson29

    @patrickwilliamson29

    Жыл бұрын

    He sucked, not even Peter kris wants to be Peter kris

  • @tainteddreams9117

    @tainteddreams9117

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@patrickwilliamson29And you think you're better? I sense jealousy in this comment because people like you who bash great drummers like Peter Criss is just jealous.

  • @justempty7036

    @justempty7036

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tainteddreams9117 He is Just salty.I also saw his comment in the phill rud video .People like this tries to Cover up their Failures by shitting on other peoples successes.

  • @coreyhathaway2202
    @coreyhathaway22028 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the info and demonstration. Well done

  • @Davinchistragicloss
    @Davinchistragicloss7 ай бұрын

    Excellent demo video and thanks for acknowledging Peter’s groovy skills.

  • @2728muzikmann
    @2728muzikmann Жыл бұрын

    Also during the guitar solo on Detroit Rock City, add his little double hits on the kick at the same time. He always played what the song needed. Guys that do that never get the recognition they deserve.

  • @redrick8900

    @redrick8900

    Жыл бұрын

    The ones who are good at it do.

  • @markr.devereux3385
    @markr.devereux3385 Жыл бұрын

    I always liked that groove also. Songs like LOVE HER ALL I CAN and COLD GIN seem solid also.

  • @parrotheadstx
    @parrotheadstx5 ай бұрын

    Excellent breakdown of 100,000 years. I'm 61, a drummer and played along to that album many times when it was first released. Finally - all of these years later - I get to witness the complexity of it all. You nailed it. 👏

  • @rlgotting
    @rlgotting5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for pointing this out. I always play this on bar jukeboxes when I get the chance. Incredible groove.

  • @ufmwc
    @ufmwc Жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Great job and killer breakdown of this groove. PC was brilliant in his day. That drum solo launched a million drummers.

  • @saldesiano4795
    @saldesiano4795 Жыл бұрын

    We all used to go watch this band called Eden Rock in my neighborhood in Brooklyn, we were a young group starting out and was in awe of the drummer. It was Pete, a three piece band and Pete did all the singing. Such a nice guy to us young players. We learned a lot from them.

  • @2mrwario

    @2mrwario

    Жыл бұрын

    You should talk about this in a video, would make for an interesting watch

  • @toddmartin3617

    @toddmartin3617

    11 ай бұрын

    Man, that is an awesome story!

  • @stevesmith3556
    @stevesmith35568 ай бұрын

    I play guitar, and I'm always amazed at how good some professional musicians are at adding little things that beef up the sound. Things you think are easy, turn out to be very difficult if you want to get it right.

  • @jeffrailey
    @jeffrailey Жыл бұрын

    Awesome music analysis of Peter Criss. It’s cool 😎 🔥🥇 that you are a musician and understand the slight subtleties in music styles. Also, Peter was taught by the great jazz percussionist Gene Krupa (R.I.P.). In essence, Peter Criss incorporated a jazz and rock and roll fusion into classic KISS.

  • @brianmckenzie1318
    @brianmckenzie1318 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this! KISS may not have consisted of master technical musicians, but it's the sum of all the parts that made them successful. Serve the song whether it's simple or complicated. There is room for everybody out there, pains me to see people who rip on musicians that have made it.

  • @deadreckoningplot
    @deadreckoningplot Жыл бұрын

    Peter influenced a lot of young drummers including me. I got my first kit (Ludwig) when Kiss Alive came out. Btw, Kiss re-recorded and dubbed a lot of the vocals and guitars in the studio for Alive but kept Peter’s drum tracks that were recorded live.

  • @panduro37
    @panduro379 ай бұрын

    Also, his voice..... Awesome

  • @joeltempleton1041
    @joeltempleton104110 ай бұрын

    Peter's drumming on Parasite, was the first song I heard from them, when it was new. I was young, but that is still one of my favorite tunes from them.

  • @chonkmcghee
    @chonkmcghee Жыл бұрын

    Super underrated drummer for sure. Thanks for breaking that down!

  • @jameatermeany
    @jameatermeany Жыл бұрын

    The main thing you hear with these guys, Peter, Ringo, Ace, Keith, Jimi etc etc even your Eddies and Bonzos are they were the first! They were my influence, they were the innovators…. Respect! 😎

  • @deadshot4245
    @deadshot42456 ай бұрын

    oh yeah musical brotha. love this style of video man keep em coming

  • @getaway19
    @getaway196 ай бұрын

    Wonderful video, and a clear, detailed example of how KISS' musicianship is far more nuanced and dynamic than they're usually given credit for!! Thanks so much for making and uploading this!! I'm not good at using the correct terminology, so apologies in advance for the poor description, but the way Peter plays this beat in "100,000 Years" is a slight variation that includes an additional stroke on the hi-hat at the end of the beat!! That extra stroke is absolutely essential for giving the song its continuous, looping feel rather than the somewhat stop/start (yet swinging) groove of "Detroit Rock City"!! I absolutely LOVE the way Peter makes "100,000 Years" swing harder than a monkey let loose in a hall of chandeliers!! So therefore I'm surprised that absolutely everybody else I've heard, including Eric Singer (who I otherwise rate as highly as Peter) plays "100,000 Years" without that extra detail on the hi-hat!! Approx. 2:45 into this video you'll be able to clearly see (and hear) what I've clumsily described above: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3mAqaWeiLO-edo.htmlsi=q5Em1E4U2RQSQhZp&t=164

  • @generay6807
    @generay6807 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I took to the drums because of Peter in the 70’s. He’s still a fave today. Thanks for doing this

  • @randallfranklin2548
    @randallfranklin2548 Жыл бұрын

    Peter Criss underrated drummer and vocalist!!! Kiss Alive blew my mind as a 10 year old….Still love it today!!!

  • @Mick_Ts_Chick

    @Mick_Ts_Chick

    6 ай бұрын

    I've always liked it the best of all their albums. They sounded so much better live to me. Songs like Deuce and Detroit Rock City really are killer good.

  • @Rancidbadger
    @Rancidbadger6 ай бұрын

    Nice! Topper Headon from The Clash was awesome but weirdly underrated at the time too. I think people assume from the genre that it’s basic and I love how you break down what’s actually going on to give it that feel

  • @damianb2374

    @damianb2374

    5 ай бұрын

    There's loads of examples from the punk/new wave era. Rick Buckler from the Jam is monstrous but probably won't come up in too many internet discussions too. As no-one cared back then, just got on with it.

  • @AVRD133
    @AVRD1336 ай бұрын

    Awesome Groove, and i love this breakdown video. first time visiting the channel. Great video

  • @sfdoyle
    @sfdoyle Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely thank you for acknowledging that! I stand behind the yet sounding simplicity yet more difficult to pull off than people realize. Malcolm Young!

  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 Жыл бұрын

    We all too often remember Peter Criss for wrecking himself on drugs, not for the amazing talent he was at his apex. The drum solo on the Alive version of “100,000 Years” inspired a lot of people.

  • @bobisbell1837
    @bobisbell183710 ай бұрын

    April wine drummer playing roller is also similar to that. Detroit rock city took me a while to figure out because of the ghost notes Peter was playing. Thanks for the clarification

  • @dougpeters1625
    @dougpeters16254 ай бұрын

    Thank you for breaking this down this is a perfect tutorial

  • @kissarmythings
    @kissarmythings Жыл бұрын

    So many people hate on KISS and their "lack of talent and musical ability" but it takes people like you who actually knows what's going to break it down. As a drummer myself, this video was helpful. And I loved hearing that flanger effect, it really did sound like KISS Alive! 🔥 Great video as always. Thanks!

  • @DB-kl9bp

    @DB-kl9bp

    Жыл бұрын

    Anyone who says Kiss lacks talent and musical ability is completely clueless and has no musical knowledge at all.

  • @myprivateyoutube1440

    @myprivateyoutube1440

    10 ай бұрын

    Y'all need to expand your musical palate if you think Criss is anything other than average. And that's being generous.

  • @mikeg2491

    @mikeg2491

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DB-kl9bppeople forget it’s entertainment at the end of the day. Look at Jimmy Buffet, most of his songs were kitschy but he made millions smile and gave them a good time sucking down booze at concerts, isn’t that what it’s all about? Not everyone musician aspires to be the next Beatles.

  • @kevinstrong8265

    @kevinstrong8265

    6 ай бұрын

    @@myprivateyoutube1440 All good rock bands use 4 to 5 chords. You progressive rockers. You lose me with all of your talent 😄

  • @kevinstrong8265

    @kevinstrong8265

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mikeg2491 Are you trying to say the Beatles weren't a 3 chord band? lol Come on man, really. All rock and roll is simple. Not everyone wants to play progressive rock and I tell you now not everyone wants to hear it either.

  • @200mphblackvette
    @200mphblackvette Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a great video! This was the very first Kiss song I ever heard after finding Alive! in my uncles stack of records in 1976. I put the needle on this song because I thought it was a cool title. It made such a huge impact and influenced me to start playing drums at 7 years old. I'm now 51. I practiced that song literally thousands of times. Thanks for giving him props.

  • @tiradoentertainmentllc.9248
    @tiradoentertainmentllc.924823 күн бұрын

    Yeah bro Peter Criss was my first inspiration and drum hero and that flanger on shuffle beat was bad azz thanks!

  • @mickpearsonmedia9426
    @mickpearsonmedia94268 ай бұрын

    There are also ghost notes played on the hi hat as well... along with a shuffle and ghost note combo on the ride earlier in the song. His work on the live version of "Nothin' To Lose" is my favourite 👌

  • @Mellie
    @Mellie Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. A lot of metal heads discount Peter as a drummer. Those who have more knowledge understand he had a jazz background which didn't always translate to that metal head mentality. Eric Carr and Singer are great metal drummers but Peter's unique abilities are wasted on those who don't have the ear for it.

  • @willwozniak2826

    @willwozniak2826

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly...

  • @corporalclegg914
    @corporalclegg914 Жыл бұрын

    02:16 - did you hear that?! a lead guitar player actually said, “made me respect that groove a lot more.” amazing. guitar players may be entering their own stone age

  • @michaelbrown3128
    @michaelbrown31286 ай бұрын

    I think it's cool you named it The Peter Criss shuffle!! I grew up loving Kiss and still love the original Kiss albums. I also play drums and could play that beat, but your right, there was always that ghost note or I thought something extra was going on with the bass drum or something. I still don't think Peter Criss is that great but most of them were his drumming and great for him because there is sometimes nothing like listening to old kiss albums man!🤘

  • @57twilli
    @57twilli5 ай бұрын

    That solo on Alive 1 is great. You sound great too. Learned a lot from this video. Thank you!

  • @igor2301
    @igor2301 Жыл бұрын

    Having watched some of these with Purdie, Peart, Pocaro etc have realized just how important ghost notes are, really drives the groove/beefs up the sound. AVH another underrated guy who can shuffle hard.

  • @The_shape_007
    @The_shape_007 Жыл бұрын

    Glad someone finally took the time to showcase some of the cool stuff he brought to the table, as a drummer myself I want to also point out another song that I think is overlooked (in terms of the drums)is parasite from alive, he plays it so fast but so tasty at the same time, super hard to replicate

  • @TheArtofGuitar

    @TheArtofGuitar

    Жыл бұрын

    Some of throes fills! 🔥

  • @bls8959

    @bls8959

    Жыл бұрын

    Peters gotta be the most underrated drummer...he has so money iconic beats

  • @repomanband
    @repomanband9 ай бұрын

    Peter Criss is definitely underrated. Great video!

  • @aintlyon304
    @aintlyon3045 ай бұрын

    Great job! Thank you!!

  • @rok4200
    @rok4200 Жыл бұрын

    That's why I always liked Peters drumming most of all other Kiss drummers. He had that certain kind of "swing" to his drumming, not your typical straight power rock drumming. After all it's about music/emotions not technique.

  • @JohnnyAGraves

    @JohnnyAGraves

    Жыл бұрын

    He was a jazz drummer

  • @SalAveNU

    @SalAveNU

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, it's very obvious he's inspired by jazz drummers.

  • @chairmankaga101

    @chairmankaga101

    Жыл бұрын

    My favorite rock drummers all have a jazzy swing. Criss, Van Halen, Bonham, Baker, even Steven Adler. You can’t have a stiff but sexy groove. Speaking as a bassist, that’s no fun to play with. Swing it.

  • @RickLangford-yy9ne

    @RickLangford-yy9ne

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JohnnyAGraves No he wasn't! He was a rock drummer influenced by jazz drummers!

  • @jackk8093
    @jackk8093 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. I love the fact that you show your thought process of how the beat evolved from when first hearing the beat. Sometimes simplifying things to fit your ability works so well that only a handful of people will actually know. Then when you figure it out it’s like why didn’t I see that. Watching someone perform it live makes so much difference. Now with the internet it’s a different world than when sitting around with headphones trying to distinguish between effects or ghost notes. Great great video.

  • @curvefeeler
    @curvefeeler10 ай бұрын

    That solo made me go for drums.. cool to see your break down. Well done.

  • @larryps
    @larryps Жыл бұрын

    Nicely done. Thank you

  • @joeseabreeze
    @joeseabreeze Жыл бұрын

    Shuffle beats are my favorite thing about playing drums. They just sound magical in a properly mixed song

  • @briannelson8373
    @briannelson8373 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. My favorite Peter Criss song is Black Diamond, but it's for the vocals. Always thought his vocal sound was the quintessential 70s hard rock voice.

  • @arcwiz

    @arcwiz

    Жыл бұрын

    Even as someone who doesn't like much KISS, Black Diamond is one of those great songs that would be praised more, if another band wrote it. Have you heard the Bathory cover? Quorothon does it justice

  • @marcelhaik8035
    @marcelhaik803511 ай бұрын

    You nailed it.. this was one of my favorite beats back in the day, and people couldn't figure out what I was doing. It's the ghost notes that matter.

  • @_paulluevano
    @_paulluevano5 ай бұрын

    Amazing deep dive and dissect

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