Hey Vogman, do you know if there is limit for 3d print file size like for chitubox (.ctb).. will printer have problems if you load a 1GB ctb file on USB stick ?

Great video Geoff! Good job getting the printer together and providing a comprehensive review. You really are the "Go To" for the 3D printing community. 😊

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan 👍

@tonywharton5220

Жыл бұрын

Most definitely my go to. I don't trust any other reviews. Mr V has it cracked and is not afraid to say so ✌️

Hi Vogman! Do you know of there is a screen protector on this machine?

I've been interested in this printer for months but was put off by the lack of reviews until recently. The potential upgradability is a good point. Really wish I could just slap a 8K screen into my Phrozen Mighty 4K... Great review!

I have this printer and I'm not sure how to get AA to work out of Lychee, I get a strange texture on the print when I try to use it. Would you be so kind to share your print settings? I understand UV exposure times and rest time are my own to calibrate.

thanks Vogman for the review! you are the best🎉

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! 😁

I got my forge over the holidays. It was a huge learning curve for me coming from elegoo and lychee and was a love hate using vlare. Peopoly have the best customer support I've come across in 3d printing and now Ive got a hang for printing large models with great detail and minimal support damage. I now feel like my saturn 2 is too small hehe. I agree with all the "gripes" you mentioned and the self assembly was upsetting until I did it. It works well for what I need.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

That's great to hear. Would you please complete the online database vegoilguy.co.uk/3drp to benefit the Printing Community with your experiences. This will be a big help 😁

@roguemotionllc

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman id be glad to :)

I personally have the Phenom L and love it was not a cheap printer but the quality and support they offered never let me down. They have released panel upgrades and heated vats for some of their older printers. I am hoping for an 8k Panel upgrade for my Phenom L. I would love to keep the machine but if not I will get a Mega 8k.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

This is excellent stuff. Would you mind sharing your experience here vegoilguy.co.uk/3drp to benefit the printing community please 😁😁😁

@MrNBridger

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman I would love to do that but always get an error.

Based off your experience, would you go with a larger plate of the forge with 50um or a midsize printer that has between 35-25 um? Having a hard time choosing between the options.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Well, Erik, I'd probably go mid-range as these massive machines take up a lot of space and cost more. As for which one, wait a fortnight before deciding anything. I think I have an interesting printer that many will like to see 😁

@erik3205

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Man, getting me pumped. I’ll wait, long love the vogman!!!

crazy large! nice 2 see U can buy ''parts''! my become a customer!

LOL, as you almost cracked up when you said it's the stinkiest resin you've ever tried, I almost expected you to say something along the lines of "and that includes my wife's resin" hahaha... But of course, we already had our chuckle at her expense just prior, so she already contributed to the well-appreciated entertainment of us lurky viewers. Cheers! Thanks for the infotaining videos!

Great review

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks 😁

I imagine that once resin printers switch to DLP, they could conceivably make them even more compact :) I had a blast (read: days of anxiety attacks) putting an Ender 3 V2 together and calibrating it, so I imagine assembling the top part for a resin printer would be a relaxing experience in comparison :)

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I've set up a few FDMs and hated every minute of it, so my anxiety goes out to you 😁😁😁

For America, its a good price. For Europe its €1199 and for Uk £1299. Which is to expensive for my taste, because i live in Europe.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that will be our (Europeans) import taxes I guess. C'est la vie 😁

@Stroobants-solutions

Жыл бұрын

But a great review Vogman. :)

@MaxShovel

Жыл бұрын

You can get an anycubic m3 premium bundle with a wash and cure and 2kg of resin for less in europe (around 1000€)

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks 😁

The heated vat almost seems like a bad idea to me... can you submerge it in isopropyl alcohol to clean it or will that mess up the electronics?

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

No, you can't submerge this vat I wouldn't have thought, but the thing is so large and heavy, I'm not sure you'd want to 😁

I've been sitting around WAITING for someone to make a heated vat for a resin printer! Finally! Plus WiFi too. They are almost where I want them to be

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Well... in a couple of weeks I've got another offering to show that might tick even more boxes for you 😁

@ThatsPety

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman 🥹

@BabyJesus66

Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure it's a good idea. I clean my vats by putting them in my wash and cure machine. I'd assume that would break over time if I did that with these vats. Or you drip resin into the plug. Seems like a space heater is a better option to me. Although I don't need a heater so it doesn't do me any good either way. I'd prefer not having it as it's one more thing to break and I don't need it.

Thanks for sharing 👍

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

And they seem to use a ball screw for the Z-axis. Very nice!

@sodster68

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, if it has any analogy to a thumb screw then maybe not so nice...

❤ Great review! I wish they would have it in XXS. Then it would be one for me.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

If they get any bigger, Cat, we'll be living inside them 😂🤣😂

@MrNBridger

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman They have the XXL, a dog could live inside one :)

@choschiba

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman yes, it‘s so cold here that it might be a great idea. It would be nice and cosy in there. But not with that stinky resin 🤣

I am a bit confused, the XY print area is larger on the phenom than the Jupiter, but the screen size has the same resolution, yet the XY resolution is lower on the phenom - why?

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Try this video Dan kzread.info/dash/bejne/qH2dmLBydbvLqMY.html

@Dan-fi8et

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman i did, but if the XY size is smaller on the jupiter, but the resolution of the screen is the same, how is the pixel size smaller on the phenom?

Definitely an amazing printer for farms 👍. Not keen on the heated vat. Seems like a very fiddly afterthought but I'm sure this printer will get better over time as upgrades come out.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input Tony 😁

@tonywharton5220

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman No worries Mr V. I can definitely see some very exciting designs. I love the fact that it can all be upgraded. Just like fdm. Buy one machine, then upgrade parts as time goes by. I don't think my Mrs will let me kick our 12 year old daughter out, so I don't have the room even if I wanted one.

Sounds like a great machine for the up and coming Channel (still trying to work out some bugs) One thing I noticed there wasn't a mad man in sight! 🤣🤣👍

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Trust me, the mad man is behind the camera 😁

@PBRJOHN684

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman That is so true after going through that ordeal! 🤔but thinking about the things I have done in the past class me as a mad man and I think that's why they might have let me retire early from the Royal Welsh!

Anyone get this printer? How reliable is it

Im asking every where my photon mono is suddenly takking 44hrs to print syriatech test print. Im slicing in lychee which estimates about 2 hrs. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this machine

@chriswebb9375

Жыл бұрын

Best guess would be you have lift and retract speeds set in mm/min rather than mm/sec so everything is taking 60x longer

Looks like a nice printer. I need to get a resin printer soon, so I can see the details on the models I'm sculpting in real life too. FDM hasn't got enough details for that. Lol

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Go for it! It's certainly different to FDM. The quality difference is incredible. But FDM still has it's place 😁

@MakerViking

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Yeah, I love FDM and enjoy it more, but now I need more details too. :)

Instructions Vog? You're letting me down... I would have put money on you being a Meccano kid.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm a Mecanno kid... and I confess I still have my stuff and my technical Lego (some things you just can't part with, no matter how much older you get) 😁

haha whenever you say "self assembly", instead of immediately thinking of "manual assembly by me", I keep thinking it will assemble itself like some futuristic self-assembling nanobots.

The Phrozen Transform has a build height of 400mm.

Dats so big!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Juan 😁

If they put out an mono x sized one for

Creality one plus or creality halot sky for dental lab

Had to be first to see how pixelated this was going to be. 😃

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

When I look in the mirror these days, all I see is pixels 😁

I sure would love for some company to provide me a large printer to review you go man and I look to the day I hopefully with get to review printers like. Thomas over at The Model Hobbyist

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

You'll get there buddy. Build up your content, that's the first thing. Do what you LOVE because if you don't, it will shine through. Initially you'll be talking to yourself (or so it will feel) but as your videos increase in number, so will your subscribers. After that, companies will come to you 😁

@themodelhobbyist

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Thank you so very much the most kind word and suggestion to how I obtain my goals is more than I could have asked for I appreciate the advice and lover your videos thanks again

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

It's easy to get discouraged. I still do. That's why you have to love it, because that's the best reward 😁

I believe the "pride in something you put together yourself" thing is widely referred to as the "IKEA effect"... though I assume no part of this printer appears to be named like a Scandinavian death metal band.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

But unlike IKEA, this doesn't fall over when you open to door and it stays in once piece longer than a week 🤣😂🤣

Geoff, FYI you don't need "WIFI" to use those features in your home shop ... You only need an "Intranet" or internal network. So just setup a wifi router and you can connect the printer to it and connect your PC to the router and no need for an internet connection to make everything still communicate together.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

No internet, no intranet, no wifi and very, very low signal on my phone. It's a bit of a mystery spot in honesty. I keep saying I'll hardwire a decent ethernet connection, but somehow I never get around to it.

@mystamo

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Hey Geoff my suggestion was to purchase a cheap $34 amazon router and place it in your shop.. You can connect your devices to it via wifi without any access to internet or any other outside network. It will be your own little personal network for the shop that doesn't access the internet.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion 😁

@sbr-synrosimbugracing9338

Жыл бұрын

I never transfer large files via wifi to any of my printers as they can become corrupted and it takes way too long. Thumb drive is easy and much faster.

The stinky resin comment had me cracking up 😂

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

That's because your workshop doesn't reek of the stuff 😁

'fee-nom' is how it would be pronounced. otherwise excellent video.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Nah! It's feh-nuhm to a British lad like me... bit.ly/3Rymt6U

@JohnJones-oy3md

Жыл бұрын

That's American-speak, fella. In England Phenom Forge is pronounced 'Fenumm 4G'.

@SatansLtlBaby

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman huh... you learn something new everyday. i stand educated!

unfortunately the euro price of this is just too high... 200$ more to europe, + markup... cheapest I could find is 1600€, while the m3 max is available for around 1k... a heated vat is nice but not that nice, especially as the m3 max has other benefits like autofeed AND comes assembled... (and I've build both my FDM machines from scratch (Voron V0.2 and 2.4r2), so I like building)

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Building this enclosure is MUCH easier than building the average FDM, so it would be a breeze for you. It's a shame Anycubic or any of the others didn't think about heaters too. It's such a benefit.

@Daepilin

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman it's really not that, it's the price difference. But maybe this will bring some of the other manufacturers to include heaters in their next generation :) (I already have a mars 3 so getting another is not urgent, though I'd like to go a bit bigger at some point)

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I get that. 👍

Why on earth do they charge way more for this if you are not in the US? eg. right now $999 in the US $1499 for other countries and then also $300 for shipping on top of that. Sorry Peopoly, that's not how to do things.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I guess it's all about import taxes. That's not really anything I can comment on 😁

@Phillip3DPrintingCom

Жыл бұрын

It's currently $975 for all countries to buy the machine. The reason they charge low price for shipping in US is because shipping companies such as FedEx have deals for the US. Be happy you're not buying a Phrozen machine. It would cost me $675 USD just to have it shipped here. At least Peopoly splits it into 2 boxes to reduce the shipping volume cost. This is why i am not buying a Phrozen machine here in UAE.

@Phillip3DPrintingCom

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Import taxes are quite low. The price for the Forge is $975 for all countries now. Have you tried some more technical resins on there?

That looks like a decent printer but super low-buck effort by an established company. Also strongly resembles a no-name kickstarter that got me interested last year but got very shady towards the campaign time... 🤔

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Peopoly have been around a good while. I doubt if the kickstarter was them... many someone copying them...

@C-M-E

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman Took me a few to remember what the name was, but there's similarities. The idea was that it was an open sourced-'DIY' project. Prometheus MSLA. Not exactly against the rules, but a bit suspicious.

Zed rail not zee rail.....

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Nah! "Zed" is the 26th letter of the British alphabet (and the Australian and probably a few others). "Zee" is the 26th letter of the US (and others) alphabet, but FOR ME it's also a letter that relates to 3D printing... so Zee Arm, Zee Lift, Zee Axis, etc. I don't now why I adopted this, but it works in my strange little mind, so I'll stick with it.

@loken9124

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman lol, fair enough, I'll just carry on sitting here sipping my Yorkshire tea

No thanks. Too much of a hassle. Fit and finish looks terrible.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

You think so? I think it's a nice looking printer. It feels very sturdy. Other than the gripes I mentioned, I find it very pleasant on the eye and honestly quite easy to put together. If it wasn't, I would have said so 😁

@josephargyle2386

Жыл бұрын

It’s not that I don’t believe you. The gripes you mentioned helped form my opinion. The shot of the off center upside down usb port did as well. The camera and vat heater also seem like afterthoughts. Really that was my short answer. I have a number of concerns with it. Specifically the DIY assembly. 1. Increased likelihood of receiving a printer with missing parts. 2. If something isn’t working correctly who’s fault is it? Seems like it would be very easy for the manufacturer shift blame on the customer for a poor assembly job. 3. According to your own consumer survey this brand is one of the poorest scoring. Do I want to take that chance? With a kit? 4. No instructions in box? What other corners were cut? At the end of the day its not for me. It’s a project & Ive got enough of those.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

No worries Joseph. I'm not trying to persuade you one way or another. I was just concerned I hadn't properly voiced my thoughts. As long as I've given you enough information for you to form your own opinions, then I'm happy 😁

@Phillip3DPrintingCom

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman This is a good option for me in the UAE as i dont want to pay $650 usd for shipping on the Mega 8K, plus taxes (10%) plus profit to the reseller. In Dubai the Mega 8K costs $3200 landed price. The Phenom Forge costs $1415 landed. So for an extra 5cm on the z-axis on the Mega 8K, I would be paying over $1000. The Mega 8K is a good machine, but i don't think it's "$1000 for an extra 5cm good" when compared to the Forge. What do you think? Would you pay the extra and get the Mega 8K in my case? Phrozen seems to have a few issues, and they are selling off all the Transform printers as they cant find a supplier for the LCDs anymore. The Transform is now also only $999, but obviously that price grows to $2500 here in UAE, and plus it's basically a brick once the LCD dies.