Imagine if we could disagree with people without trying to destroy their entire life. You don’t like the video? Okay just leave a dislike and unsub and move on. When people throw such a huge fit over a literal KZread video, they’re just screaming to the entire world “my life is sad and pathetic and this is the most emotional stimulation I’ve had in months”

@oniedahn

7 ай бұрын

prtty much what i see aswell yea, you'd think ppl would want to better themselves to get out of that but apparently they like their little copium-huffing mindsets.

@jaysea838

7 ай бұрын

This is why the Karen meme exists.. some people quite literally make it a point to attack others as they see that as their only “purpose” or means of getting attention. Nothing against Xeno (love you man) but those who continuously bring light to these things are the very reason they continue.People like this still have remedial thinking / lack any sense of real life skills / maturity. Mind you, I get it, as a CC (esp when things are slow) you need anything you can to keep the attention span of your audience. I dont generally hate on these people for their view, I simply feel sorry for their meaningless existence.

@Sniperbear13

7 ай бұрын

at the same time, if no one brings it to light, it can result in more bad things happening, but no one is really aware if it. there are times when something needs to get dragged out and be brought to everyone's attention, else it might lead to bigger problems. for example; if a store makes changes to a Policy that is anti-consumer, it should be made loud and clear that its bad for everyone. its part of why we have people trying to argue Right to Repair should be a thing and not allow companies to have a Monopoly on the goods they sell. the same can be said of Video creators. there are those that need to be called out for doing something that is wrong. we seen it with many Content creators that have Plagiarized their videos or Articles. if no one said anything, they would look like they came up with it and potentially outshine the original. none of this applies to JoCat though. the people that Attacked JoCat are the sad and pathetic losers.

@unitedstatessc

6 ай бұрын

Jocats was rejoicing in people getting harassed for playing Hogwarts. He getting what he puts out. I don't get why people think he's a nice guy. He obviously got that fake ass toxic personality like rin has. He hardcore into politics so it's always fighting from him

@Sniperbear13

6 ай бұрын

@@unitedstatessc "An Eye for an Eye makes the world go Blind"

The issue with the people who are refusing to accept what cancelling actually is, is due to the fact they generally think it's a "good" thing that happens to "bad" people, in their minds if you get "cancelled" then OBVIOUSLY you did something wrong and deserved it, they don't realize that anyone can be cancelled at any time for anything so long as enough people jump on the bandwagon and it's why so many people who aren't terminally online are fed up with "cancel-culture." Hopefully this serves as a learning opportunity for at least some people, but even that's unlikely as part of internet "culture" nowadays is to just double and triple down on everything you say regardless of how often you're proven wrong.....

@strawberrydialectics

7 ай бұрын

well the original use of the word just meant "yeah i dont like them or support them anymore" & later could extend to boycotting. the person or business doesnt need to be fired or arrested fot that. now theres so many ways the word gets applied its lost its meaning. someone can be mildly criticized online & it gets called "cancel culture". nor can you have someone legitimately facing consequences of their actions without people claiming its cancel culture, where in that case is diminishing the severity of the situation. we had all of these kinds of things happen before the term cancel got popular.

@vicariousxiv2436

7 ай бұрын

@@Noxissa I mean your own definition of it DOES apply to JoCat though, how can you not see that? Again, it's cause you're assuming you must do something negative that warrants being cancelled over for it to count, but JoCat himself just said he cannot keep going with content creation, he has stated he is "incapable of continuing." Do you think all the brands and celebrities that have been RIGHTFULLY cancelled in the past didn't retain a fanbase as well? Ofc they did, people are fucking stupid, like the ones harassing JoCat, so the fact he still has his audience doesn't change the fact that he himself has deemed it impossible to continue making content. But yes, people do indeed just throw around "cancelled" as a buzz word, usually to suit their own narratives and needs, and it's certainly muddied the waters on it's actual meaning for many, like this whole debate about the guy who was literally forced off of the platform, the internet even, and people still not understanding that it counts as "cancelling" as much as any other who suffered the exact same outcome.

@bankai7623

7 ай бұрын

People are taking it to far. Imo being canceled for bad views toxicity is different then a begine opinion like oh I hate decaf. At work it's wild to see even old people taking the chance to crap on people over nothing. It's so sad.

@LokasennaCole

7 ай бұрын

the thing about the whole canceled is that the VAST majority of people who " get canceled " don't deserve it or don't deserve the extent that it goes to

@Layarion

7 ай бұрын

Cat is getting hate for saying "doxing harry potter players is ok"(paraphrase) on his twitter account. You've been played and you're spreading that misinformation.

Gonna miss Jocat, he provided so many good laughs.

Im pretty sure its the internet trolls who tried to cancel Jocat that got offended that xeno associated them with cancel culture.. which is what they did. But how dare you call them out on their bull crap!!

@MichaSennin

7 ай бұрын

Trolls? Its long time viewers of his, not some random people on the internet. they calling him out for it, rightfully so.

@haydarinna631

7 ай бұрын

@@MichaSennin You are a liar, and the worst kind of person in general

@Raven3557

7 ай бұрын

⁠could you elaborate? You're doing way too much paraphrasing

@IdleCommentator

7 ай бұрын

@@MichaSennin Lol, sure "long-time viewers" - apparently, it had taken those "long-time viewers" a whole year to notice the video and start their harrassment campaign. There is nothing "rightful" in doxxing a person over a harmless video on the internet.

@amoxcillicpsychosis2967

7 ай бұрын

@@IdleCommentator Dude is spreading misinformation, it's wasn't his "long time viewers." The community loved his video and it was spread by another youtuber posting it on reddit claiming it was their's. He corrected them and that's where the harassment began. It went to all different types of people "supposed" feminist saying that it was objectifying women, and red-pilled assholes saying how he makes liking women sound gay, people/transphobes who didn't like how he was "quiet" about people being harassed for playing Hogwarts Legacy while he was holding a pro-trans charity. The entire thing is a fucking clusterfuck.

I think people are getting really fixated on cancelling = one and only one thing. 1) A social campaign to pressure an organization to deplatform someone is a form of cancelling. 2) Boycott movements are a form of cancelling. 3) Targeted harassment and/or pressuring someone with the aim of making them reduce or end their participation in a space or punishing them for that participation is a form of cancelling. A lot of people trying to argue he didn’t get cancelled because it’s not enough of 1 or 2, when Xeno and others are arguing that it’s clearly 3.

@navi2710

7 ай бұрын

Gamers struggle to count. You are now asking them to use their brains and logic to apply the correct definition? You might as well say 1+1 does not equal 3 and offend everyone who feels like it does. /sarcasm

@kelvinhernandez966

7 ай бұрын

100% agree its #3. Also i dont think its Gamers because they are too busy gaming! Its mostly internet trolls who have nothing better to do with their pathetic lives that they get overly invested in someone else's life and what they do.

@strawberrydialectics

7 ай бұрын

personally i think we need to move away from the term "cancel" and just call things what they are. 'cancel' sounds flippant, has associations, and can mean a variety of things and doesnt really relay the severity of "doxxing & mailing suspicious packages"

@Layarion

7 ай бұрын

Cat is getting hate for saying "doxing harry potter players is ok"(paraphrase) on his twitter account. You've been played and you're spreading that misinformation.

@ASalad

7 ай бұрын

@@Layarion Can you provide sources that he did that, and that this is what people are so outraged about?

I think they want to deny it being cancelled as it makes them the bad guy. But these people what to think they are doing the right thing. Its the whole im doing good by being evil type of thing. These people have a twisted sense of justice that based on feelings.

People (idiots) think "It's cancelling if I agree with it, or at least with the tools / methods used. It's harassment if I don't."

Just like you can get harrassed without getting cancelled, you can get cancelled without doing anything bad lol I think it's just people think that saying someone got cancelled implies they did something bad to deserve it, but that's never been the case

@vidarrstridd4079

7 ай бұрын

"it's canceling only when I like it"

@ShitOwl

7 ай бұрын

edp "exists"

@SSZero

7 ай бұрын

People "deservedly" get canceled sometimes as well, I wouldn't say "never". You usually just hear more about the "undeserved" instances like with JoCat, comedians, etc where a lot of their audience still support them and people are having the same wtf reaction.

@NeroNyte

7 ай бұрын

@@SSZero I meant that's never been the definition of getting cancelled, of course there are people that deserve it

@AmanoSai211

7 ай бұрын

Maybe my definition is wrong but I always saw "canceling" someone as trying to end their career by spreading information about them, true or false, to the people or entities they rely on to continue their career. Their sponsors, peers, etc. This was just harassment in my eyes but it's just semantics at this point. It sucks regardless that a great content creator like Jocat got bullied and harassed into retirement from the industry.

This is usually the part of the cancellation where the bullies realize that they went to far, but still don't want to admit it, so they claim that their cancellation wasn't a real cancellation because they didn't specifically ask their victim to quit. Then, if their victim ever tries to come back in the future, they'll claim that somehow double-proves that they never did anything wrong. You can look at the Pikamee situation for a recent example of this.

Meanwhile if the cancellers get canceled themselves, theyll start crying foul

im so frustrated for Jocat. the dude is such a wholesome person and i hate that he is being cancelled over literally nothing. it blows my mind that someone as nice as him can be bullied to the point where he gives up on what made him happy because there are absolute cunts out there who cant stand someone being happy and have to drag them down.

@dantecain6277

7 ай бұрын

As mentioned in the video didn't he try and cancel someone else for literally nothing? It's sad but if you try and pander to the mob of irrationality. Eventually they're come for you too.

@magicman25103

7 ай бұрын

@@dantecain6277no, no he didn't. the only ones saying that are the dumbasses who were bullying him to "justify" it.

@KingCrimeTime

7 ай бұрын

@@dantecain6277 he didnt try to directly cancel anyone but he did try to downplay the harassment ppl were getting for play hogwarts legacy

@dantecain6277

7 ай бұрын

@@magicman25103 they were happy people were getting canceled for playing hogwarts. Now they failed their purity test and are getting canceled as well. Ironic if not sad that they perpetuate cancel culture and got eaten by it. You're eve going around calling names and not being nice about anything. Some would call that harasing others who don't share your view. Wonder when you'll get cancelled and say you were pure too.

@StygianIkazuchi

6 ай бұрын

@@KingCrimeTime To focus on transgender harassment, which he was trying to do charity streams for at the time if I remember correctly.

You must remember, there are people out there that takes pleasure in the misery of others. when they saw the girl video, all it takes is for someone to group up a bunch of random haters and try to bully them, no matter if it's their fault or not. like bullies in school, they will only win when the victim gives in to their abuse. Jocat quitting just means that they took joy in pushing someone to quitting, and now, they will just find another poor target to abuse and repeat the same thing. It's just their own form of twisted entertainment

Someone once said to me years ago "Social Media will be the downfall of Western Society". I thought they were being a doomsayer now i see they were Nostradamus😂

@neruneri

7 ай бұрын

Eastern Society really isn't doing any better with the social media to be fair. It's pretty universally a plague.

@FloDaddelt

7 ай бұрын

It's because everyone has now OPINIONS on everything and then those are so strong with no reason most of the time.

@Fa1nTy

7 ай бұрын

I mean if you really come to hate social media you can just... go outside lol There's millions of people still that don't use any social media or media period besides maybe text messages for business

@WiessWinters

7 ай бұрын

@Fa1nTy agreed i don't use Twitter and haven't used Facebook since it first was created and honestly it's such a good thing but these people want to create their perfect world funny thing is they don't know what they want 🤣

People are god damn stupid, JoCat is based and did nothing wrong.

@Ykesha

7 ай бұрын

Hogwarts sends its regards.

@Spark1est

7 ай бұрын

@@Ykesha We don't need to know that you get warts on your hog, save that for your doctor

@fernandozavaletabustos205

7 ай бұрын

He asked for no harassement of any of the involved. Your argument is invalid.@@Ykesha

@Ykesha

7 ай бұрын

@@fernandozavaletabustos205 I wasn't making an argument. Take your meds lol.

@KingCrimeTime

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@fernandozavaletabustos205 He asked for no harassment but in the same breath tried to downplay the harassment as not important compared to the trans stuff

I don’t always agree with everything xeno says, but I can respect that he speaks his mind and is not afraid of the internet trolls. Keep it up man 👏

I love the thumbnails you used for both videos xffing

so why did Xeem's hair got cancelled? xffing

@TrueChaoSclx

7 ай бұрын

His beard said there wasn't enough room on this head for the two of us

The best part about all this is that people randomly decided to attack JoCat over the video he put out 2 years ago, no one has a problem with it then, how is it a problem now lmao.

@bewitchedriddle

7 ай бұрын

I think it all started when someone tried to steal his video on Twitter. I'll see if I can find the post in question, but it was pretty stupid.

@AlexisLestrange

7 ай бұрын

It's just like when Justin Trudeau had his past leaked that he did a blackface part in a play or theatre role, and people tried to cancel him for it. It was so long ago from his presidential campaign, yet people still tried to use it against him. When a wave of the internet suddenly encroaches on content they disagree with, it's no-man's land at that point.

@nezrafallon4086

7 ай бұрын

I believe jocat said that it wasn't just one set of harassment, but harassment by different groups for different reasons over the 2 years. Some of it is because of the 'i like girls' video, people calling him sexist or whatever. Others are mad due to him liking girls that aren't conventionally attractive. Some of it is due to him being supportive of trans people, and for having raised money for charity when progressing TOP The above happened around the time that Hogwarts Legacy came out. People assumed he was harassing others for playing it, and harassed him as revenge. Even when he said that he doesn't condone said harassment, it didn't matter. people kept harassing him And of course, people who harassed others for playing hogwarts then harassed jocat for saying it's wrong to harass people. Some weirdos became convinced that jocat was a trans lesbian, and made weird comments to him about it. It's fucked up to say stuff like that to someone, even if they ARE in the closet. And of course, others spewed hatred to him because they hate trans/gay people and thought jocat was trans/lesbian. Others because jocat doesn't fit the definition of traditional masculinity (he said he has gender nonconforming clothing he doesn't wear outside). there's probably a bunch of other stuff I forgot, but you get the idea. it wasn't just one group of weirdos, it was multiple. Pro-LGBT, anti-LGBT, feminist, anti-feminist, left, right, etc. Brainrot devouring itself to create more brainrot. A brainrot ouroboros.

@PikachuFan123456789

7 ай бұрын

@@nezrafallon4086 Thank you so much for the info! I was honestly dumbfounded how JoCat's video even ACHIEVED getting certain people up in arms against him or that it's even been going on for years. I really wonder if there's an accurate and precise scientific/medical term describing the condition these people have developed online and/or in life which has led them to display such abhorrent behavior like this towards such an inoffensive person and allowed themselves to make mountains out of molehills. Brainrot: That sounds about the closet thing to what they've probably developed, so I'll stick to that for now. But how'd they develop it is the question I have now. I like to believe one of the reasons may be from an oversaturation of negative situations from their environment, like doom scrolling. Anyways, thank you for filling us in on this and I hope JoCat is able to find peace and get back up on his feet again, I'd very much like to see it.

@KalicoKal

3 ай бұрын

​@@nezrafallon4086 what are you talking about? because everything you said sounds like all the harassment he got came from the right side of conservative things. the hell do you mean he IS in the closet? dudes straight and sang a song about it on top of having a girl friend. none of the harassment started until a year after the video dropped and in his words "it left the target audience that loved it" and he got his first wave of hate around the same time he made a video announcing the trans charity stream then it continued. he cant be getting harrassed by feminists and pro lgbtq+ when hes a known ally, we know hes not gay and hes been streaming about it but coincidently the "jocats gay" jocats trans" and "he makes liking women sound gay" shit showed up AFTER hes being more vocal and trying to make waves with his support without labeling people as evil or down playing the real world in justice people face to justify someone's bigotry. if he says hes trying to be the change he wants to see in youtube by being pro trans and more progressive and he gets harrassed for that exact thing its time to open your eyes and ask yourself " hmm what progressives and lgbtq+ get out harrassing the dude donating to there charity and defending them. it seems like all the stuff you forgot was stuff that proved he got harrasses by both parties and not one with an agenda for what counts as masculinity and attractive women in gaming

There will always be idiots and trolls on the internet that will go the extra mile to ruin peoples lives. Todays society is an embarrassment

@Sniperbear13

7 ай бұрын

its not as if it wasn't a thing in the past, its just now easier to see them.

I’ve noticed in the recent generations that people don’t really believe that actions have consequences.

People saying you have to do something to get canceled. What he did was not be traditionally masculine. Yes, there’s a whole gross corner of the internet that will happily cancel you over that.

Xeno, you mention in this video about something you're going to react to next month and I think I know who and what it is. If it's about Howard Moon, that dude is an absolute psychopath. I've played with him before in ARR and he is notorious for just being absolutely insane.

The only thing that irks me a bit is that Xeno never acknowledged that Jocats family was involved. Or maybe I have missed it. It's one thing being accountable for just yourself, but if your mother or brother also get involved it adds a whole dimension of stress. Are you just gonna tell your mum "Don't worry about the phone calls, the suspicious packages and the people lurking in front of your house. Just ignore them."? I am very curious how Xeno would handle this situation when it gets expanded to the whole family, especially if they don't understand the internet culture. Though they probably wouldn't try it with Xeno in the first place in fear of getting shot. :^)

@jhillinthehizzouse

7 ай бұрын

You missed it, he talked about it briefly

@semekiizuio

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but Xeno has a point, dont let these people control his life. As a content creators they should be aware both side of a coin exists, the good and the bad, protect themselves physically legally and financially. Changed mailing to PO Box, if people are outside your home call the cops, if suspicious phone calls change numbers. Ive literally had a friend who had a few stalkers, stalkers called all her friends bothering them, would put her on a sex app to have people go to her home. She has a f rifle and she literally walked out with it and scared the truck outside then did a report. All her friends and her changed phone numbers. The cops investigated the sex app profile and took it down. Basically Jocat needs to stand up for themselves

@semekiizuio

7 ай бұрын

Oh and his family concern should be themselves and Jocat not about the drama or the threats. They should support him and do what they can to keep each other safe, by support I mean not faulting or putting blame on him but understand something like this was boundto happen

@StygianIkazuchi

6 ай бұрын

@@jhillinthehizzouse not really. I watched the full video and the most he said was "I would have handled it differently". He didn't directly acknowledge that Jocat's family were sent suspicious packages and other things.

I agree with Xeno, it counts as being cancelled. I loved JoCat's video and thought it was hilarious. It's so dumb that he is being targeted by these spiteful nobodies. I think the twatter users are mainly jealous that JoCat is entertaining, and he throws better bars than most rappers nowdays make.

100 percent with Xeems on this one. The man has my full respect for calling out the stupidity in people. He just proved in this video that people throw out words not having any clue what they mean or what they are talking about.

I can’t believe he make a drama video of a drama But I m angry at the haters

The only issue most reasonable people have is that the terms "Cancelled" and "Drama" have been overused to the point of excess. Even if it's the appropriate use of the terms, it's because the terms have gotten applied to so many different situations that a lot of people's interpretation of meaning have been skewed. If you want people to take something serious, you don't call it drama, because the implication of the term "drama" is that it's a big fuss over nothing. If you want to highlight someone being targeted over nothing then you don't use the term "cancelled" because it implies a level of guilt for something. At least, that's my understanding of why people freak out over words. I'm definitely a stickler for using the right word for the situation because words have power, but at the end of the day both terms are technically fine to use in this situation even if some people will take them the wrong way.

@TrueChaoSclx

7 ай бұрын

It's kinda like "cringe" Everything is cringe, everyone is cancelled, everything is drama lol

@navi2710

7 ай бұрын

Mind me asking you about using a treadmill? Does the word horrify you because it was a medieval torture device used on commoners?

@Riptitde777

7 ай бұрын

I wouldnt argue that a "level of guilt" is tied to cancel culture at all actually, people that are completely innocent or have been taken advantage of internet crazies are cancelled all the time. So to me i see cancelling as a group of people outside of that person trying to take them down regardless of whether it is justified or not.

@Arkafazin

7 ай бұрын

I view the term "canceled" as a "job lynch mob." I view the term itself as extremely negative and think no one deserves to be canceled for anything. So I had no issue with Xeno's usage of the word describing Jocat's situation.

people are getting angry over youtube video naming instead of injustice done to Jocat, priority man.

Lmao, this whole semantics agrument is just one big "UM ACKSHUALY"

Losing Jocat as a creator on KZread is a huge loss!

Lmao I love how these idiots basically just handed Xeems another video because they got triggered over “cancelled” in the title of his video. Amazing

Excellent video Milord

The real problem arises when you've got trendy interweb words being redefined every few months. One day "Cancelled" can mean one thing, and a whole group of people agree upon it, but then next week it could mean something totally different (or the same, but with some nuances added), but those groups who knew it as it *used to be* don't really think it should mean the new thing, or they think the new thing erases the old thing and doesn't include it or have room for it in the definition. etc etc. Just bored people arguing over semantics because the internet has hundreds of millions of clashing personalities who all think they're right. :P

@newbielolgaga

7 ай бұрын

no, the real problem is people are brain damaged and can’t accept the fact that jocat got cancelled. It’s that simple.

You're completely right. Thinking it's not canceled is Insane. But it not a free dessision from the target to be canceled, sometimes it doxing or putting others in danger. Sometimes choose to be canceled by the harrasment you get is the smart dessision for yourself or those around you unfortunately. Lots of people suck

could someone explain in bg3 terms

We are getting Monster Hunter Wilds man ima miss Jocats monster hunter animation and videos 😢

People get so upset about semantics like it's the only thing that matters. Call it however you like, we all understand what happened. A bunch of terminally online idiots harassing someone for no good reason to the point he had to quit.

I think the people disagreeing with Xeems is that they have a different definition of cancelled. That definition being "a person is no longer a content creator because they can no longer get work as a content creator even though they would like to continue." A sort of forced cancellation (look at the recent events with the Completionist, for example). In this case Jocat took the initiative himself to "cancel" himself and end this KZread career, it wasn't forced as he still could have kept going on KZread. I think that's why people disagree. I tend to agree with Xeno's definition more, but I can see why others say differently. But hey, if a guy like DSP Gaming can still be going to this day after getting caught jacking off on live stream after thinking the cameras were off, then is that not proof that the creators really are the ones with the power to control cancellation? Could just be that no one really cares about that guy either. lol

@sammiedodge2513

7 ай бұрын

I disagree with you. People harassing you is def a type of force, i dont know how you can view that otherwise

@Segmented

7 ай бұрын

​@@sammiedodge2513the difference is choice. If a creator is being harassed, they have the choice of ignoring it or not. But in the case that that person stops getting support or work from other people, that situation is out of their hands. That's why I've always felt that people never really get cancelled. Everyone who has supposedly been cancelled still gets work or is supported in some way, albeit in a somewhat reduced state.

The difference in terminology understanding comes from those that believe cancelling is positive thing and those that believe it to be a negative thing.

the internet's regressing, just when it was becoming more accommodating

I guess my view of cancelled is going above someone to get them fired. So like if they had told KZread to kick him off, that would be my view of cancelled. You are right that he chose to cancel himself

Prefacing this with: all a bunch of wordsmithing and keyboard warrioring to have a reason to be upset honestly, it's literally arguing semantics but instead of arguing they're trying to ruin someone's livelihood. You're not wrong per se, but you're looking at the whole picture while everyone else is stuck on why there's a fucking bird in the background of the picture. Generally people who are in support of (or neutral to) don't use the word cancelled unless they're saying "Trying to cancel (me, my friend, this guy, etc..)", as cancel has a negative connotation from the person who said it. What you're saying might be objectively correct, but it APPEARS at face value that this is a video disparaging JoCat or something like that and we all know how drama andies react when they see negative shit about people they like. People are looking for the cause, not the effect. The effect is, yes, JoCat functionally got cancelled and subsequently quit of their own volition due to the harassment. But the cause of them quitting was the harassment (which would be included in the end as part of the canceling), not the canceling itself.

xffing SAME SHIRT

I believe part of the problem is an inability to define terms ,due in part, to this insistence in our culture that all truth is subjective. All terms are up for debate at all tines to these folks. They are in a way on to something as we all believe things we havent ourselves varified, but the fact is whether we believe facts or not they are still true. Falling trees do make noise when nobody is around to hear it. Equality has its limits. Untrue things being true is a good start.

From what I could tell a lot of the vitriol is not originally because of the I like Girls video, it really started when he did the charity stream for the trans charity and started being more vocal about his support of trans and queer rights in his streams and videos. Then people just latched onto the "I like Girls" video because they thought it was "cringe and simp" but secretly they just hate anyone that supports queer people, especially trans folks.

Catch them on the flip side then they comment a storm on this video also, just smart business

I 100% agree with you brother. I've been watching JoCat since before I started FFXIV. This whole situation is complete and utter bullshit,

what happened to jocat is like textbook cancelling: harassment, bullying, doxxing for the biggest non-issue i've seen in a while now. obviously he got cancelled, i don't get why people would deny that. and 9/10 times people get cancelled for stupid, miniscule, an unimportant bullshit made up by social media addicts who lost all sense of reality.

Great Take!!!!

WASD mod makes the game play so much better... I wonder if people watching his stream notice he's using it?

The bad guys won :( Imma miss the "crap guides" by Jocat because they were actually good

I just cant beleive such a talented and entertaining creator was cancelled over that video. I love that video and agree with it all, if for some reason he sees this i hope he is okay and comes back.

i feel bad for the dude, Xeno if you haven't watched his crap guides to FF14 they're pretty solid

I never knew people were this obsessed with pinning down ultra specific definitions for random online terms like "cancelled"

Fucking smooth brained people trying to "ummm ackshully" about the definition of some worthless online term is hilarious. JoCat was harassed with the intention of ruining his life. He was canceled. He didn't deserve it, and anyone trying to obfuscate that with meaningless squabbling over what is and isn't "canceling" needs to seriously touch grass.

@ambystomamexicanum3803

7 ай бұрын

The ummm ackshually comes from people who get their kicks from harassing others and justifying it to themselves by digging for any reason to go "but this person deserves it". They're upset that another scenario has prompted people to call their behavior what it is without the "but i'm actually a good person for this behavior" filter.

I'm gonna get an "I absolutely DON'T like girls" tattoo so this can never happen to me

@Amazingpatt

7 ай бұрын

just dont drop the soap in the gym shower! ... or do ... if your into that!!

Bald

How are people disagreeing with this? He was pushed into stopping, it's literally being canceled.

Imagine being an internet troll getting butthurt being called out by Xeems

I get people saying getting canceled is a bit different. What i got telled and how getting canceled was defined for me is, if people get to take your platform away in form of getting you banned so you dont have the opportunity to do content. I see people saying jo is not getting cancelled he is quitting by his choice but i can also understand the definition and opinion by Xeno and even tho i slightly think the same about cancellation and quitting it is xenos definition and decision to name his video that and i support it

It's incredible that these days a segment of people online can just decide to get up and ruin someone's life for no other reason than not liking a video someone posted, that didn't even include anything offensive.

At this point people are just agrueing symantics. He was canceled

The current internet is the Roman Colisseum, with people calling for blood and waiting for their influencer type friends to thumbs up or thumbs down. The internet is great, too good for humanity.

aint no way people are trying to cancel the word cancel

Stick'em to it

God Xeno is like always right tf?

Good take

I don't 100% agree that it's always solely on the individual, because I always viewed being "canceled" meant they lost their opportunity, like for example being abandoned by their audience, being black balled from working with others or companies, etc. JoCat I think is one of the few examples who technically "self-canceled", because nothing outside of his own volition is keeping him from physically continuing, but I can see that Xeno's view can still fit or be part of the definition of "getting canceled", especially since JoCat is being influenced by an outside source.

@EdgeGilid

7 ай бұрын

Your definition is wrong bud. But you do you.

@TheFrantic5

7 ай бұрын

​@@EdgeGilid Who gets to decide the definition of being cancelled, though? I'm already counting three here, based on whether it's caused the inflictors, inflictees, or both. Until a prominent dictionary publisher publishes a definition, all we have to go by is a consensus of the public, which can change depending on the group polled. Sorry, it's just funny to me that you just put up a one-liner of "Hey you just wrong there bud." without any context or explanation.

Omg some people are just so disgusting and horrible 👺

This is also reason, why Hollywood doesn't make comedy movies anymore.

React streamer, pull streamer

One of my favorite content creators got taken off the internet while theres a community thats worried more about terminology

No one can cancel The Bald American

@Amazingpatt

7 ай бұрын

except his hair! they cancel xeem long ago!!!

don't let em in ya head

I can't believe people think being harassed is not getting canceled. It is, people who do that are denying who he is by bullying him and being horrible black hearted assholes so he will shut up. That is canceling plain and simple.

I feel bad that people who he looked up to turned on him over something like this. It's probably a blessing in disguise where he can now find role models that aren't s***ty people.

12:07 l find it odd that you have to restate yourself. You already said that in last video if people paid attention

Seems to be some kind of organized movement going on here. Who are these people harassing him and also now harassing you lol

Wow...

its always funny how much people have to debate the meaning of a phrase or word. not funny in a "Ha Ha" way, more in a "Ugh, really?" way.

you said it yourself in the original jocat video, "people are stupid", and you were right, now they are stupid again for crying about the title

Good god, why have I only just heard of all this? ^^" Moments like these are why I'm glad to have never made a single account on such social medias like twitter or facebook. Content creation wasn't never my thing either, I just make goofy pokemon and mario kart videos from time to time to have laughs with my friends

Eyy i'm in the video oh so briefly i made it mom.

people are getting bogged down by the technicalities of the word they just associate the word with someone doing a bad thing and getting cancelled which is fucking stupid imo

are you using a controller?

literally just finished watching your video about JoCat getting cancelled and then I end up having an aneurism upon seeing this video, for whatever reason, had to come into existence. let me be clear, it's not you or the video itself that's got me boiling. it's the fact people are so utterly stupid that they're failing to understand that it doesn't matter what happened, if a person or group stops doing a thing because of others then they've been cancelled. it doesn't matter if he quit. the fact it happened as a direct result of what others were doing makes it the exact same thing as him being cancelled. it's a simple concept. I, for one, will not fault the guy for making the decision he made because this bs is not for everyone and sometimes a person needs to take a step back and take a breather. even if that breather lasts forever in the hopes of being given some peace and quiet away from the assholes.

I feel like the people who say it's not cancelling are the brainlets that think that cancellation is a justified tool for someone who does a nono. Which is honestly fucked on many different levels.

Self-cancelling is like self-censorship. It's still cancelling. People just enjoy being contrarian, so they seek to narrow the definition with technicalities. Especially to "one-guy" streamers.

Somebody please call the grammar police lmao. How many braincells does it take to know the difference between subject and object?

the thing i dont get is that people don't understand that its a parody of a 5 year old video. Why is nobody going after the girl that made the og animation for the exact same thing? its genuinely idiotic

@thehurricane6767

7 ай бұрын

Because parody passes off professional victims

The ultimate gigachad content creator play: Reacting to his own react video xD

Cancel this brrrrrrpt

The thing is that he is cancelled because the people harassing him are getting what they want from him. They want to ruin his life and affect him and are doing so. It's not that hard to understand.

how do you try to cancel someone who is talking about another guy being cancelled xdding

I think the difference is typically people who are cancelled actually just take a small break and continue to make content as though nothing happened and everyone forgets about it regardless of what got them cancelled.

Lol imagine trying to start shit out of nothing because ya bored asf and need that X clout. At least we get content from Xeno calling them shit

The ones who say hes not cancelled are the ones who harassed him off in the first place.

Not sure why this is even a topic. Fwiw, my understanding of cancelled is that there is public pressure to not employ/purchase from/support someone. I didn't take the time to read any of the twitter or youtube comments, so I no idea if he was cancelled or just harrassed and doxxed. Doesn't matter either - anyone nitpicking the title of the video over something this vague has too much time on their hands.

Cancel Pigs never sleep.

We just can't have nice things anymore because there are always these absolute bellends like the people who harassed JoCat who ruin it for everybody else.