Cryaotic: A Failure's Descent Into Madness

Cryaotic was once put alongside creators such as PewDiePie, this video demonstrate why that is no longer the case.
Twitter: / joontheking
Discord: / discord
00:00 Intro
1:21 Early Cryaotic
3:53 Grows alongside PewDiePie
6:00 Origin of Late Night with Cry and Russ
11:00 No boundaries with fans/Cracks start to show
20:10 How bad it truly was
27:36 A failure's failing channel and life
35:09 Cryaotic's last livestream/A descent into madness
41:15 Cryaotic's secrets are revealed and he vanishes
54:48 Conclusion

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  • @VioletAeonSnowfield
    @VioletAeonSnowfield8 ай бұрын

    Anytime I find myself asking "Whatever happened to that KZreadr?" I swear there's like a fifty percent chance the answer is they turned out to either be a criminal or a reprehensible person and then ghosted.

  • @EroticMammoth

    @EroticMammoth

    8 ай бұрын

    Usually a fun little mixture of both!

  • @RidenDennis

    @RidenDennis

    8 ай бұрын

    Bro, ive been since the early day's of KZread and its insane how most turned out, in a positive and negative way...

  • @bobana3105

    @bobana3105

    8 ай бұрын

    It's so shitty. A few months ago, I remembered Cry from when I watched him as a kid, and was like, "wonder what he's been up to!" Only for every top video to be about this kind of thing. Really sucks that so many of the old school peeps ended up being awful.

  • @skepolotv4173

    @skepolotv4173

    8 ай бұрын

    and 90% of the time it's grooming kids, looking at cheese pizza or some other form of pedophile degeneracy. Like, booooooring! Why can't we have something fun, like Vinny and Joel robbing a bank or Jacksepticeye's connections to the Irish Mafia?

  • @haghandler

    @haghandler

    8 ай бұрын

    And it's a 95% chance that they touched minors.

  • @Scrofar
    @Scrofar8 ай бұрын

    Imagine the utter confusion I had when Dream SMP rose in popularity. I had whiplash seeing how strikingly similar Dream's mask looked to Cry's avatar.

  • @JammyJam5588

    @JammyJam5588

    8 ай бұрын

    Dream's basically a both better and shittier version of Cry. Just unlike Cry, there's a lot of people who did this song and dance before, and can tell Dream is obviously a shithead in disguise. He's worse at hiding it but better at capitalizing on his fame and compounding it. Sadly he got an obsessive fanbase of children all the same. Won't be surprised whenever (who knows how long) in the future a video like this is made of Dream.

  • @darcyjoshua7201

    @darcyjoshua7201

    8 ай бұрын

    I was very confused att. It took a while for me to understand those are two different people. Yet even with Dream's controversies I doubt they be **that** different. Dream sure as hell is shady to me.

  • @cycy8699

    @cycy8699

    8 ай бұрын

    @@darcyjoshua7201 whats up with Dream now?

  • @wildmaknae_

    @wildmaknae_

    8 ай бұрын

    like 90% of dream's controversies are just him doing dumb stuff, apologizing and learning from that to not repeat the nonsense, or just straight up lies (except internet likes to hate him and straight up forgets about his steps to fix things up or says "PeoPLe Don'T ChaNgE!!1"). not talking about cheating stuff, that was bad fr, but he quit speedrunning because of that so ig it's fair

  • @JammyJam5588

    @JammyJam5588

    8 ай бұрын

    @@wildmaknae_ It's moreso the character of his person. If you look at all the "dumb stuff he did" and gave halfassed apologies for, it paints a picture of the kind of person he is. He never even truly acknowledged the cheating until it long passed, I guarantee he woulda kept speedrunning if he didn't get caught so badly.

  • @Tiltigo
    @Tiltigo7 ай бұрын

    Why is it seemingly so fucking hard for so many youtubers to not cheat on your partner or get sexually involved with minors? Holy fuck the fact that it actually happens so often is seriously concerning.

  • @johnernest5843

    @johnernest5843

    6 ай бұрын

    I think it's something to do with power and fame, but on a smaller level We've heard stories where stardom and renown can corrupt people, but sometimes I think that applies to KZread stuff too. You get these lonely nerds and weirdoes--or at best ordinary people--who are ill equipped with handling the sudden fame and attention from hundreds of people in their audience, suddenly getting handed this much power You either learn to handle it responsibly, or you abuse it and fuck up. We've had decent big KZreadrs who dont have controversies at all, because they managed that fame well. But we've also had so much shit like this where Youtubing brings out their ugly side.

  • @utaatu4576

    @utaatu4576

    6 ай бұрын

    The bar is so low, meanwhile motherfuckers out here playing the most intense limbo to duck below it.

  • @Ban-os7vy

    @Ban-os7vy

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@utaatu4576I think it's time we be honest and really realize how many people out there would really fuck a minor if they could get away with it. Literally every single one that we catch thinks are going to get away with it and a large portion of them get away with it.

  • @sailormoonfan224

    @sailormoonfan224

    6 ай бұрын

    I know, right? It’s so goddamn easy not to be a pedophile. And to just break up with someone instead of cheating, but the former is a lot worse.

  • @Squeaky245

    @Squeaky245

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sailormoonfan224 Are you sure you're using "latter" correctly there?

  • @HeyItsCettefille
    @HeyItsCettefille6 ай бұрын

    God the culture of KZread was just so different back then. Now being older, the way Cry talks about himself has the same energy as my emotionally manipulative ex.

  • @ataridc

    @ataridc

    6 ай бұрын

    I never watched this guy but it's unbearable to even listen to. Endless whining and self pity. I am guessing these weren't one after the other like in the video, but listening to it in this video is physically painful.

  • @williamw8590

    @williamw8590

    5 ай бұрын

    its crazy the stuff I was subjected to on this website when I was 14 years old

  • @Homodemon

    @Homodemon

    4 ай бұрын

    "You're gonna get tired of me eventually..." made me cringe out of my skin Is like suddenly bursting out "I'm just a piece of trash" or "all my exes left because they're were all bitches" in the scale of "I like to make other people responsible of regulating my own emotions"

  • @jackcutter2

    @jackcutter2

    3 ай бұрын

    making this about you. yikes

  • @Homodemon

    @Homodemon

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jackcutter2 at least they got an ex to compare him to......

  • @OcarinaLink24
    @OcarinaLink248 ай бұрын

    Hearing Cry’s voice again after all this time is WILD. It’s like seeing a mug shot of someone covered in tats and piercings, then realizing it’s old friend from high school who used to dress conservatively. Just… surreal. I don’t think I’ve seen one clip with him in it since it all went down.

  • @itsgrace717

    @itsgrace717

    8 ай бұрын

    I used to think his voice was so "sexy" but listening to it now it sounds so forced and creepy 😭🤢

  • @Krazycougar22

    @Krazycougar22

    8 ай бұрын

    @@itsgrace717he relied on his voice so fucking much to gain women followers too. There was only one cryreads that I liked and now that I think of it, it’s actually legit scary because the story was about a man who unalived his younger sibling(could be just a kid) and was recalling it due to having a ptsd episode. I think the name of it was “Mason”.

  • @loveableheathen7441

    @loveableheathen7441

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Krazycougar22Nah, Mason was a story about two little cancer patients who fell in love. I've seen all the cry reads. This news hit me hard when it first came out

  • @LentTweakin

    @LentTweakin

    8 ай бұрын

    @@itsgrace717and passed the bar of weird Batman voice attempt #40

  • @NVE

    @NVE

    8 ай бұрын

    lol tf you guys srsly diddnt get pedo vibes out of that voice back then?

  • @SpaceLobstersGaming
    @SpaceLobstersGaming8 ай бұрын

    You know it's a youtuber documentary when it only takes about 8-10 minutes into the story for grooming to take place.

  • @cant-use-my-other-name

    @cant-use-my-other-name

    8 ай бұрын

    I dunno, I was starting to wonder since it was taking so long.

  • @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese

    @sayLeotardbutsayitChinese

    8 ай бұрын

    I counted 8 seconds.. lol

  • @dmdkdkrkfksn4324

    @dmdkdkrkfksn4324

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@sayLeotardbutsayitChineseyeah he talked about the grooming in the intro

  • @obi-nh9eh

    @obi-nh9eh

    8 ай бұрын

    Fr fr

  • @estebanod

    @estebanod

    8 ай бұрын

    36 minutes in and still no mention of grooming other than in the intro Editstarts at 41"

  • @oracleofdelphiii
    @oracleofdelphiii6 ай бұрын

    During the "Cryaotic's last livestream/A descent into madness" section, I actually felt really bad for him. It just sounded like someone who had to grow up too early, then found success and a bit of happiness from it, then had everything crumble in his head. I get the feeling of realizing that "success" doesn't heal everything wrong with your mind and how that wrecks you. And then we got to the messaging-kids part and all of that went out the damn window.

  • @nyvguy

    @nyvguy

    6 ай бұрын

    same

  • @dr.redwood5479

    @dr.redwood5479

    6 ай бұрын

    tbf he been dating a 16 y/o at 20

  • @utaatu4576

    @utaatu4576

    6 ай бұрын

    He did really good at emotionally manipulating the story, the spin was 'I made mistakes' and the mistake was being a pedophile. Like. Fuck, man.

  • @Luizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    @Luizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    6 ай бұрын

    You really think people would be there for you if you broke down now huh?

  • @YehudiNimol

    @YehudiNimol

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@dr.redwood5479While I wouldn't consider it to be that big of a deal on its own, that man clearly has a pattern of messaging people who are underage. That's an abuse of power that to me makes him irredeemable. It's similar to the CMC situation in a way

  • @humanbean4037
    @humanbean40375 ай бұрын

    Cry isn’t pathetic because he was mentally unwell. Almost everyone is in some way. He’s pathetic because he took his pain and unleashed it on absolutely everyone around him, with no thought to the consequences. I’m not gonna lie, his struggles with motivation and depression and loneliness are really relatable to me but he took it so far without any care about anyone else. The whole situation is absolutely crushing. It hurts so much to know that if cry never existed a lot of people would be a lot better off.

  • @judesliggoo

    @judesliggoo

    3 ай бұрын

    Eh, i wouldn't be so sure about that last statement. He is a bad person and all his fans agree. But as despicable as he is, it seems a lot of people were grealty helped by his presence during the earliest era of youtube

  • @humanbean4037

    @humanbean4037

    3 ай бұрын

    @@judesliggoo maybe you’re right

  • @ReconmissionFFWR

    @ReconmissionFFWR

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it’s a double edged sword perhaps his content helped a lot of people get through the day ik for me Adam Kovic and the gang from Funhaus got me through a lot of rough times in highschool despite Adam being a cheating, creepy and disgusting person the content they made and some of his jokes helped me but it was the people he interacted with on a day to day basis in person and online that got burned the same can be said for Cry i think

  • @alexanderfletcher3375

    @alexanderfletcher3375

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't approve of the cheating but I am in a similar situation as cry was and I am. A person that believes and follows absolute honest so the pple around u can actually help. Because not knowing the full details. Helps no one. And loneliness depression and self hate plus any level of drama wreckless havoc on ur brain and is that a problem. To want. Help to a fundamental level.

  • @sadstrawberrygirl

    @sadstrawberrygirl

    2 ай бұрын

    Beautfully said.

  • @ranting_cripple
    @ranting_cripple8 ай бұрын

    I genuinely think Cry was a perfect example of unchecked mental illness and ego. He struggled to accept the way the internet was changing around him, constantly shifting between wanting to embrace or hide his own fame. He is an egomaniac with no confidence, which in itself is an incredibly self-destructive cycle. While it does not excuse his actions in any way, I believe Cry to be an incredibly mentally unsound man. The pride has no ego, the ego has no pride. Wherever he is, I hope he gets his shit together.

  • @Destroyer120296

    @Destroyer120296

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah it sucks because i truly believe cry could have gone down a different path and was not a "geniunely evil person". What he did is unforgivable but i dont think he was "Evil" in the sense that he was destined to be that way. He just had deeply rooted issues that put him into self destructive cycles and made him deeply desperate for validation, love and attention. If he had gotten it under control i think he would never have done what he did. Sadly he ultimately made his choices and i wish all who suffered due to what he did have recoverd.

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@Destroyer120296 Yeah, he's still human and it's a harrowing thing to realize that with enough abuse and neglect any of us could've potentially gone down a similar path. Being a good parent to your child is the most important thing you could do for their future, because if you fail, it shapes and molds not only their conscious mind and personality, but also their entire subconscious mind (and by extension, their associations, emotional reactions, behaviors, and habits) for the worse and, in a nutshell, that's how you end up with hurt people hurting other people. It's a cycle and you have the burden of responsibility to find it in yourself to break it if you find yourself there, both for your sake and those who cross your path - especially those who stick around. That's just life, we all have this responsibility, and it's tragic (in many ways) that Cry wasn't equipped to face that fully, and instead did what he felt he had to in order to escape from his shadow for another day. I hope this whole ordeal has shaken him awake to this reality at the very least. People can change and I hope he manages to find a path to actually be a better person, and face whatever demons lead him to this point. Fuck, this stuff is heavy.

  • @sokumotanaka9271

    @sokumotanaka9271

    8 ай бұрын

    I hope he's in jail, he can still get therapy there too

  • @whishfuldead7335

    @whishfuldead7335

    8 ай бұрын

    "Wherever he is, I hope he gets his shit together."

  • @ticklord

    @ticklord

    8 ай бұрын

    @@sokumotanaka9271 You clearly know nothing about the penal system in North America if you think that helps anyone lmao

  • @bluemrpony
    @bluemrpony8 ай бұрын

    it's wild hearing his voice again after so many years and realising how...unwell he had been all this time like I honestly do not know how I've missed it but it's so obvious now

  • @kirstenbass1968

    @kirstenbass1968

    8 ай бұрын

    I feel we’ve grown since the late 2000’s when it comes to mental health - recognizing it, openly discussing it, and promoting treatment. I also think about how I was a young girl when I watched Cry… I had no life experience to know that the angst in his videos was a bad sign, and not just the similar to my teenage angst. I feel so bad for the people who were harmed by him before they could grow out of his content like I did (before everything came to light).

  • @takezosama

    @takezosama

    8 ай бұрын

    Hindsight bias

  • @kirstenbass1968

    @kirstenbass1968

    8 ай бұрын

    No, that isn’t what hindsight bias is. We both said we never realized it at the time, but looking back can see the signs. Hindsight bias is saying you predicted it before it happened… but we didn’t, we only see the signs now since we’re adults and not preteens. Cry was evidently unwell - but the pedophilia was definitely a shock to me. No bias there.

  • @cris404

    @cris404

    7 ай бұрын

    We were kids

  • @baconeggandcheese8402

    @baconeggandcheese8402

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean, a lot of us were kids and teenagers. I don't know how any of us would've caught on to that.

  • @lpsotakutrash
    @lpsotakutrash7 ай бұрын

    As a 22 year old now I can't even understand why someone my age would be dating a 16 year old. It's disgusting. Edit: The amount of you who are excusing his actions and talking about age of consent is gross.

  • @jamesgoodson2489

    @jamesgoodson2489

    7 ай бұрын

    Sounds like something a pedo would say

  • @NodRider

    @NodRider

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@marceelino Here in the US, 16 is the legal age of consent, so it isn't "horrible" in law terms, but it's still pretty looked down upon by most people for an adult and a minor to be in a relationship. Whether it fits within the law or not

  • @redacted1473

    @redacted1473

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@marceelinofreak behavior

  • @olliem890

    @olliem890

    7 ай бұрын

    As a 19 year old I cant imagine dating a 17 year old those people are such creeps

  • @SpedeFace

    @SpedeFace

    7 ай бұрын

    It's even more creepy that 16yo old in US looks older than in EU.@@marceelino

  • @zincgoblin7538
    @zincgoblin75386 ай бұрын

    Just letting anyone that's looking into this know that Russ is rehosting Late Night Crew again with the other two. He did one stream for halloween and there's plans to do one more for new years. While Cryaotic caused insane amounts of damage, there are still those that rebuilt themselves. Support Russ, Scott, and Snake.

  • @corpsebrideish

    @corpsebrideish

    6 ай бұрын

    Do you have the link or name?

  • @alastor8091

    @alastor8091

    6 ай бұрын

    Imma cuck him. Gotta be easy if Cry pulled his women.

  • @hellopeople787

    @hellopeople787

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@corpsebrideishkzread.info/dash/bejne/dIqCsNikkbufnZM.htmlsi=OV6SSKBPOkj76LrZ

  • @aiden3627

    @aiden3627

    3 ай бұрын

    What are the channel names?

  • @MyOnlyNevermore

    @MyOnlyNevermore

    3 ай бұрын

    Supporting the worst DBD KZreadr ever 💅

  • @lordtopsy5666
    @lordtopsy56668 ай бұрын

    The fact that Russ felt compelled to stick around with what was essentially his abuser just for financial security is truly heartbreaking. Edit: Since people keep bringing up the situation with Russ' parents, I want to make it clear that my comment wasn't in ignorance of that fact. For me, the tragic part was that he felt compelled to stay with Cry AFTER he was able to get away from his shitty parents.

  • @0_0Ben

    @0_0Ben

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah but at least that nightmare is over with and Russ finally found his happiness in life.

  • @jesustyronechrist2330

    @jesustyronechrist2330

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, some people are just desperate. For whatever reason.

  • @JFoxx3699

    @JFoxx3699

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, but it helped him escape a worse faith if his parents were really on drugs and abusive That's not the funniest hell hole to be in. Although your "s/o" flirting with you're "best friend" is the worst kind of betrayal.

  • @rickytrevino2380

    @rickytrevino2380

    8 ай бұрын

    I remember when Angel (I think that's their name?) Started hanging out with cry more and I was genuinely confused. Also hated the fact that russ had to stick around for financial reasons

  • @Nulldron

    @Nulldron

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jesustyronechrist2330 "for whatever reason" 💀

  • @undyne1
    @undyne18 ай бұрын

    Cryotic was probably the only KZreadr that actually disappointed me. I felt betrayed and almost in denial in a way, and spent the next two days digging for info on the situation, since I somewhat grew up watching him due to his collaborations with PewDiePie. It's a shame he's not facing any repercussions, but hopefully he's getting the help he needs, because he clearly needed it.

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    8 ай бұрын

    It's so weird. I started a let's play YT channel in high school because of him and Pewdiepie, and sort of copied Cry's style of talking and doing playthroughs, as teens often do in those specific situations I guess. I'm glad I had something good come into my life from watching his stuff (that, getting better at video editing, getting into Roll20 briefly, and a few other things), but I can't even put into words what I felt watching through this doc.

  • @agwarddd

    @agwarddd

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s a different thing when it’s someone you used to watch. So many of the ones who were exposed before were people I had no connection to. I’d stumbled across a video of theirs on occasion, but not people I watched actively. Cry was the first one that I had watched actively, only to be exposed as a problem - a groomer, an abuser, an aggressor. And that made it hurt, because his emotional “openness” in the past had inspired me, as someone with unchecked depression and struggles against a chaotic home life. Felt less alone, felt entertained by his friendship with PewDiePis, felt comfortable. Then when it comes out what he’s done, suddenly you feel alone again, even years after moving onward. Everything falls away, all that good feeling and appreciation, and you just stand there, watching someone you admired fall before your eyes.

  • @ghoultooth

    @ghoultooth

    8 ай бұрын

    He was someone I watched for comfort when I was a young teenager, that’s what really makes me so mad about it all.

  • @JDydgi

    @JDydgi

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@ghoultoothyou hit the nail better than i could, not just with Cry, but SkyDmc, all those rainy summer days binging their playlists of various games.

  • @guyferrari8124

    @guyferrari8124

    8 ай бұрын

    He absolutely is facing repressions, he’s blacklisted from any online position where people would recognize him, which was clearly he passion

  • @abbytalks8074
    @abbytalks80747 ай бұрын

    Cry used to be my favorite KZreadr when I was 13-17 ish. I was young, lonely, and honestly back then Cry felt like my only friend at times. I had a schoolgirl crush on him. I'm glad nothing like this ever happened to me. I had so many good memories of watching his videos, bought games because of him... When I found out what happened because I watched his last video I was so upset and hurt that I cried. As a 20 something year old 😂 because it felt like finding something horrible out about an old friend. Really damages a persons trust in their favorite KZreadrs...

  • @Quaquadaqu

    @Quaquadaqu

    7 ай бұрын

    You were a fan of him? Lol! That’s embarrassing.😂

  • @marianainesairaldi5517

    @marianainesairaldi5517

    6 ай бұрын

    I cried too, don't worry

  • @kori2169

    @kori2169

    4 ай бұрын

    literally i'm in the exact same boat. i never had anyone detail what exactly happened since i was just a dumb kid with a stupid crush on a faceless youtuber, but now that i'm an adult, i'm mortified. like cognitive dissonance is kicking my ass, but i'm so happy to know the truth.

  • @rimanahbvee

    @rimanahbvee

    3 ай бұрын

    Parasociallllll

  • @blazaybla22

    @blazaybla22

    3 ай бұрын

    Lesson, don’t put trust in people you’ve never met and probably also decrease your expectations even for people you know intimately

  • @voxatious3920
    @voxatious39207 ай бұрын

    Holy shit... Russman's cackle at 53:00 is so bone-chilling. You can *hear* how both relationships Cry took from him absolutely broke him. I hope he, along with all the other victims Cry was communicating with, are doing better now. They didn't deserve any of this.

  • @Bullboy_Adventures

    @Bullboy_Adventures

    7 ай бұрын

    Imagine having 2 girlfriends that essentially openly cheated on you

  • @Frostipoo

    @Frostipoo

    7 ай бұрын

    Holy fuck dude... it gave me chills...

  • @xXMINISCRIVSXx

    @xXMINISCRIVSXx

    7 ай бұрын

    Man deserved better from his partners and his so called best friend. Russ and everyone else that was a victim of Cry didn't deserve anything that he subjected them to.

  • @shadowsoul720

    @shadowsoul720

    7 ай бұрын

    100%. I thought the same thing. Hope Russ is doing much better

  • @Vanque13

    @Vanque13

    7 ай бұрын

    I thought it was crying at first, really harrowing

  • @Exe244
    @Exe2448 ай бұрын

    Hearing Cry having a mental breakdown like that is some of the most disturbing things I’ve heard from him.

  • @scarfhay5541

    @scarfhay5541

    8 ай бұрын

    Hearing any creator having a mental breakdown is disturbing in general

  • @Exe244

    @Exe244

    8 ай бұрын

    @@scarfhay5541 true but hearing it from Cry, who the majority of the time on the internet was quiet and chill go on this unstable rant like in that video

  • @cooliostarstache5474

    @cooliostarstache5474

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@scarfhay5541 Hearing anybody have a mental breakdown is pretty disturbing

  • @nomi_M

    @nomi_M

    8 ай бұрын

    Right? It gave me a damn jumpscare, it's in complete constrast with how he usually spoke. What an absolute sh*tshow...

  • @ms.pirate

    @ms.pirate

    8 ай бұрын

    At least he admitted it

  • @arinhardie8340
    @arinhardie83408 ай бұрын

    Besides the victims, Russ’ side of things hit the hardest. He was trapped with this vermin of a human being for so long

  • @pread

    @pread

    8 ай бұрын

    and it all started just because Russ wanted Cry to check out his Amnesia modded level...

  • @kutaoizumi4189

    @kutaoizumi4189

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, and we were all unaware...

  • @Venixus

    @Venixus

    8 ай бұрын

    It sucks when I tried to rewatch clips for old times sake, thinking I could just tune out Cry but knowing now how the rest of the crew felt, it really is just tainted.

  • @UnrealAxel27

    @UnrealAxel27

    8 ай бұрын

    Russ has such cozy, fun streams now. Same with Snake. They are doing better

  • @theodorebear6714

    @theodorebear6714

    8 ай бұрын

    The lesser of two evils is still evil.

  • @riverpubby
    @riverpubby7 ай бұрын

    Man I remember finding out about this. “Man I miss cryaotic” “oh dont, he’s a groomer” “WHAT” Super upsetting to see someone I looked to when I was in a shit mindset turning out to be a PoS. That shit was rough.

  • @shadowsoul720

    @shadowsoul720

    7 ай бұрын

    Fair. Also lol, the amount of times you said shit

  • @infinitymocha

    @infinitymocha

    7 ай бұрын

    I found out about this a couple months after it happened. I wasn't an avid watcher of him, but I enjoyed his content enough to have an alarm for his streams even if I didn't always watch. I was making an offhand comment about cry reads and none of my friends ever understood. My bf did tho and we were talking about cry and we decided to look him up to see how he was doing. Lo and behold I see all these groomer stuff and drama happening. Really depressing considering I actually really liked some of his content and his collabs with pewds. I stayed up watching their collabs, stifling my laughter so I didn't get in trouble.....

  • @riverpubby

    @riverpubby

    7 ай бұрын

    @@infinitymocha I saw a video where someone asked Felix why he didn’t do things with Cry anymore and his reaction was so heartbreaking 😭 I can’t imagine finding out your friend is Like That

  • @ennui9745

    @ennui9745

    6 ай бұрын

    @@shadowsoul720 Twice?

  • @midnights2631

    @midnights2631

    5 ай бұрын

    I remember I was horrified when I found out, I didn't watch him a lot but I loved the old video where he played prop hunt or something.

  • @quinnlee-miller9792
    @quinnlee-miller97926 ай бұрын

    If anyone else wants to scratch the itch Cry did in terms of LPs, ManlyBadassHero is an amazing KZreadr. Respectful of the games, has fun, pokes fun, etc.

  • @letsreadtextbook1687

    @letsreadtextbook1687

    6 ай бұрын

    Manly is those kinda lper that you can almost guarantee won't have a drama due to how non-personal he is. Also specializing on random indie horror games, it's inherently not geared to children

  • @elitebelt

    @elitebelt

    6 ай бұрын

    BIG agree, MBH is a legend.

  • @TimedRevolver

    @TimedRevolver

    5 ай бұрын

    NakaTeleeli is another good choice. His playthrough of Quake with his friend ElementalOgre is great.

  • @rusteddenial453

    @rusteddenial453

    5 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @hailey7960

    @hailey7960

    5 ай бұрын

    YES! he’s the first youtuber who gave me such a similar LP vibe

  • @bighatbondquo863
    @bighatbondquo8638 ай бұрын

    Imagine how different things would have been if Russ had given that Amnesia custom story early access to PewDiePie instead of Cry

  • @CamBoone

    @CamBoone

    8 ай бұрын

    Dude may have built a life for himself if he never had that massive influx of social capital. Maybe… it’s just as likely that he would have still been a faux-deep, terminally online loser, lusting after kids.

  • @Hoodles321

    @Hoodles321

    8 ай бұрын

    lol

  • @NotVeryStrange

    @NotVeryStrange

    8 ай бұрын

    Pewdipie had a good family and was more mentally stable so nothing would change

  • @keycrafter7471

    @keycrafter7471

    8 ай бұрын

    @@NotVeryStrange nah a lot of things would probably change like never being friend with cryotic

  • @NotVeryStrange

    @NotVeryStrange

    8 ай бұрын

    @@keycrafter7471 not being friends with cryaotic wouldn't change a thing , it's not like cryaotic would have boosted him in subscribers cuz pewdipie was pretty big and most of cryaotic fans probably knew pewdipie due to their content similarity

  • @2DegreeSummit
    @2DegreeSummit8 ай бұрын

    You know that the internet is a vile place when you learn that a youtuber groomed fourteen fans and you think "I've heard worse."

  • @noonyabeezniss4911

    @noonyabeezniss4911

    8 ай бұрын

    It's also a truly amazing and astonishing place You seen that kitten that dunked itself in its milk? Pure gold, oh and all the money raised for kids and stuff

  • @tbotalpha8133

    @tbotalpha8133

    8 ай бұрын

    And you know that the internet has scoured your soul when that information barely elicits a response beyond "oh, another one."

  • @donaldtrumplover2254

    @donaldtrumplover2254

    8 ай бұрын

    The internet is a vile place? My guy the internet is just a collection of things from the world outside of it. This is a dumbed down version of some of the stuff you could see just by going outside.

  • @countbooga6997

    @countbooga6997

    8 ай бұрын

    The world is a vile place, the internet just makes it a lot more transparent. What trips me out as a 24 year old who has never watched cry, he honestly had a pretty good life compared to what I've been through and to find out the man was a 31 YEAR OLD talking to underage people this way and preying on their insecurities and the fact that they can relate to him instead of doing what he could to give them guidance and a positive role model disgusts me. I can't believe someone THAT OLD would be crying on livestream to literal preteens. Some people man, I hope all the people who's lives he messed up are doing alright now and I hope all the young teens out there take him as an example to deal with their emotional issues and to take responsibility. Letting your issues out on others, especially young people, does nothing but perpetuate these cycles. It's up to us to breake the habits our parents and role models left us with.

  • @iloveuramen2926

    @iloveuramen2926

    8 ай бұрын

    *vile world The world is the vile place, the internet just helps expose these people more then what real life would do, yes the internet does also help these groomers get to children easier, but still the world itself still made these terrible people. But sometimes the internet itself is the sole reason why a lot people become like this so your not entirely wrong.

  • @MamaMidnight98
    @MamaMidnight986 ай бұрын

    Having been a mod for his streams circa 2013 and 2014 (from ages 15 to 16) as Red brought me on to mod the offline hours, watching back stuff and going "I was there for some of this" is always surreal.

  • @Hunnie_Bunnie55
    @Hunnie_Bunnie557 ай бұрын

    what's with him trying to have a shadow the hedgehog voice 💀

  • @None-vg1qw

    @None-vg1qw

    7 ай бұрын

    Fr how to people find it hot 💀💀💀 it sound so cringe and forced

  • @paisflo7624

    @paisflo7624

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro reached Mamamax levels of cringe ☠️☠️

  • @ironic7583

    @ironic7583

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@paisflo7624lol its very max coded

  • @bigpete7240

    @bigpete7240

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@None-vg1qw I wanna say it was a 2011 thing but it’s the same thing with CorpseHusband lol

  • @the_n3ve

    @the_n3ve

    Ай бұрын

    he's literally Haze from Anonymous Agony

  • @Katragine
    @Katragine8 ай бұрын

    It made me so disappointed when I discovered who he really was. He wasn't hiding his face, he was hiding his true identity.

  • @tardwrangler

    @tardwrangler

    8 ай бұрын

    He was hiding his face

  • @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd

    @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd

    8 ай бұрын

    Bro being fake deep 💀

  • @rebralhunter6069

    @rebralhunter6069

    8 ай бұрын

    Damn that's so deep. I'm 13 btw and I like real music, like rock. I wish they still make good music because I was born in the wrong generation. This is deep BTW.

  • @LacklusterThoughts

    @LacklusterThoughts

    8 ай бұрын

    He has some great creepy pasta reads too. Pretty sad.

  • @jbaer0

    @jbaer0

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rebralhunter6069have you found out about REAL music like video game osts and anime openings

  • @roserocksrapidly
    @roserocksrapidly8 ай бұрын

    hearing about him is always so depressing. his videos were formative for me as a kid. it's like looking back at something that led you to such positive places and seeing it was actually just a steaming pile of shit. just genuinely makes me so sad.

  • @oatmealguy

    @oatmealguy

    8 ай бұрын

    completely same - he was a HUGE comfort youtuber for me. i'd watch or rewatch series to get through breakups or other life shit. and out of ALL of the content creators that i enjoyed, i'd always go on about i was so glad that my favorite content creator stayed out of drama and was incredibly wholesome. i don't think i've let myself enjoy content like that since this stuff. 😵‍💫

  • @od3910

    @od3910

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@oatmealguysame this one hurt a lot and changed my view on KZreadrs. Not to be dramatic lol just that you realise you can't always clock this shit

  • @oatmealguy

    @oatmealguy

    8 ай бұрын

    @@od3910 yeah, now i keep everything at arms length lmfao. everyone's gotta have their one mildly parasocial view on a content creator that ruins it all

  • @Una_Ridlow

    @Una_Ridlow

    8 ай бұрын

    I survived middle and high school because of Cry. I couldn't hurt myself, I had to get to Saturday so I could watch the Late Night Crew. The summer after I graduated is when all this shit came out... it still really hurts. Hearing Cry's voice is so bittersweet. I've had a few dreams about the LNC as a whole since then. I loved his playthrough of The Cat Lady so, so much, and I can never watch it again without feeling sick. I was groomed as a teenager, too. Cry was a safespace for me, and so many other people, and I hate that he's a piece of shit who hurt other people in the same ways I was hurt.

  • @Scrofar

    @Scrofar

    8 ай бұрын

    You're not alone there. For me, he was one of the OG let'splayers. I was in high school around 2009 when I first started watching and had always been hooked to his humor and voice. It was good times. I haven't touched or rewatched a single one of his videos again, not since the big bust. In fact, looking at Dream SMP's avatar makes me feel weird bc it's so strikingly similar to Cry's avatar.

  • @Zyrodil
    @Zyrodil7 ай бұрын

    I used to be in the Steam Group and I used to watch tons of his videos on KZread. But I'll never forget the stream where everyone was talking shit back and forth while Cry was playing some weird eastern inspired war-boardgame and it was so fucking boring, he didn't talk and the others were basically just carrying the stream while Cry was sitting quiet. Then Russ said: "Yo Cry, chat wonders why you're being so quiet." And he just fucking launched into a rant about how he wasn't a puppet dancing for an audience, he was going to play videogames and "have a good time" and that "he was tired of everything." I don't know how, but my brain just went: "This guy doesn't seem like he appears on his let's plays" and then I just never watched him again; it's like I snapped out of a dream or something and realized that he was kind of a fucking asshole towards everyone and it just didn't vibe with me.

  • @ginnys.matthias1818

    @ginnys.matthias1818

    7 ай бұрын

    Kinda similar but different for me, I loved his letsplays but just couldn't get into the streams...I think by the time I discovered their streams there must have been some underlying stuff I was subconsciously picking up on, cause they just...felt like they didn't like each other? But they were pretending not to? Snake was the one who I noticed first then a few of the others. I stopped watching after a few cause I just couldn't shake that feeling. I thought it was me and maybe I just didn't understand their vibe...and then that day with the final video happened. Sucks man

  • @destinyhntr

    @destinyhntr

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ginnys.matthias1818 I had the same experience. Used to love watching his lets plays as a teen, then didn't like him on stream and preferred his friends. I just got "he's not the kind of guy I would want to hang out with" and stopped watching. Turned out a lot of us subconsciously noticed things being off with him.

  • @Shmaples

    @Shmaples

    15 күн бұрын

    "Im not a dancing puppet"... That sounds like some fake deep shit. Sorry Cry but a stream is a performance at the end of the day.. anyone streaming is effectively a dancing puppet. You dance/entertain then you get a bag 💰. it's simple.

  • @mamag6004
    @mamag60047 ай бұрын

    Y'know, there's something else I noticed. I share my experience with the deep sense of betrayal and disappointment and all. But as an impressionable preteen, coming from a chaotic and LOUD house, hearing his low voice and general calm demeanor and vibe gave me a real false illusion. Because even when he clearly showed bursts of anger or mental instability, hearing all that in a relative calm tone gave me a false sense of "not seriousness", as in, "if he's saying stuff calm like that, he MUST have a grasp on his internal conflicts, emotions and, most of all, mentality and ideals. Wow, so mature". Because of that I often didn't question anything that came from him and had him in this pedestal of wisdom. If the same things were said and done by a more loud person (as I was used) perhaps I wouldn't have laid so much trust in him

  • @ethribin4188

    @ethribin4188

    3 ай бұрын

    I dont think Cryotic, at least back then, did those things as an intentional manipulation tactic... But you are of course correct that it was very effective later when he had to hide and manipulate the minefield that he built himself in. Which made him very dangerous.

  • @mamag6004

    @mamag6004

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ethribin4188 oh, yes I agree. Absolutely, I don't think that he did that intentionally for a moment, however it did serve in his favor and that is something that influenced me, is all I'm saying

  • @sadstrawberrygirl

    @sadstrawberrygirl

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Interesting!

  • @sporepics
    @sporepics8 ай бұрын

    In hindsight, the Catherine bit is epic dark comedy. Because in the results, people lean towards physical cheating to be worse. While cry thinks emotional cheating is worse. Cry then challenges this notion by making emotional cheating look WAY WORSE.

  • @Rose-ef2cm

    @Rose-ef2cm

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s like he took this as a challenge to prove how emotional cheating can be just as bad as physical.

  • @xbyte00

    @xbyte00

    8 ай бұрын

    Most probably he was taking into account all the shit he's done and thought "Well, that's way more fucked up than the other option"

  • @LentTweakin

    @LentTweakin

    8 ай бұрын

    @@xbyte00he was that’s how some psych games work, make you think about yaself

  • @calamitysangfroid2407

    @calamitysangfroid2407

    8 ай бұрын

    I think most people wouldn't actually understand emotional cheating. I don't think I do either. Like if everyone's being honest, chances are we're not in a relationship with someone who is our idea of peak physical attractiveness, so the urge to do physical cheating is easy to understand. Falling in love with someone else, being honest enough with yourself to realise that but not honest enough to tell your current partner "I don't love you anymore"? That's hard to picture for yourself.

  • @Sykroid

    @Sykroid

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@calamitysangfroid2407The problem is that many people emotionally cheating still love their partner. They want to have both people in their life and they're too selfish to let go of either, even if what they're doing is showing the exact opposite of love. It's good you don't understand emotional cheating, you shouldn't ever have to.

  • @jinxieunlucky
    @jinxieunlucky8 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing the "apology" video before I heard the allegations, and I got that sinking feeling and thought, "Oh god, what did you do?" Then after doing some digging I was heartbroken. He'd been a comfort youtuber for me for years, and I knew everything I'd ever watched from him was going to be ruined forever, I wouldn't be able to watch it again. I hope his victims can heal, and it boils my blood that he never faced any real accountability for what he did. He got to just disappear while the people he hurt have to continue dealing with the consequences of his actions.

  • @TheMeloettaful

    @TheMeloettaful

    8 ай бұрын

    That seems to happen more often than not nowadays. I see the apology video, or I start seeing videos about said KZreadr a lot. Example as of late being Colleen Bassinger(???). Now I'm just waiting for that other shoe to drop in which big KZreadr is gonna be exposed next 😕.

  • @CloudySunnySmile07

    @CloudySunnySmile07

    8 ай бұрын

    same! i stopped watching him as i got older and one day i remember how i loved his video and went to his channel, saw the “apology” video and was absolutely shocked and heartbroken too. I never really had that type of just sadness with any other youtuber that i watched back in day, it ruined my night

  • @CherryBirthdayCake

    @CherryBirthdayCake

    8 ай бұрын

    Y'all hae t ofile lawsuits and make police reports. That's why this Colleen shit is getting boring. No one is going forward with legal shit.

  • @cheddarchemist5644

    @cheddarchemist5644

    8 ай бұрын

    It was beyond heart wrenching. I've really never trusted another KZreadr since. I don't trust any celebrity really anymore.

  • @miabeya

    @miabeya

    8 ай бұрын

    If it's ANY consolation (not really), this dude's messed up mind will haunt him, even if he's anonymous and may not be held accountable by the law, his mind will hold him accountable. I really appreciate this video's title. Cry will undoubtedly see it and there's likely no other word but "failure" that probably shakes him more to his core. It's his biggest insecurity, especially since his failures are all self imposed. His mind and low self image will haunt and punish him more than anyone ever could. His life is also miserable as he allows himself to be walked all over by others in his life. Plus authorities were contacted so he's probably been living in paranoia. The man won't know peace in his life.

  • @chao5996
    @chao59967 ай бұрын

    I will always feel some serious melancholy whenever Cry and LNC is brought up. He was a childhood favorite and I remember loving the LNC's streams, seeing the fanart of the group hits hard. Cry was a very unhappy person who didn't know how to control his emotions, and lashed out and hurt so many others. He did some foul, disgusting things and is obviously a shitty person that deserves the negative connotations that come with mentioning him nowadays. But I think my inner child will always feel kind of depressed, knowing how him and his group of friends are broken apart because of his selfish and immoral actions.

  • @ethribin4188

    @ethribin4188

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said. Cry tried to do right, for himself and for others. But there was no balance for him to strike, so he built an unstable sphere around him and dove into deeper darker corners to escape and/or find purpose. There's no excusing his actions. But unlike most youtubers turned pedo/abuser, Cry genuinly didnt mean any pedo/abuse or related actions to happen, nor was it his nature to end up where he ended up. Cry is not a bad meaning person. But intention dosnt change anything about the actions one commits. And Cry messed up.

  • @MichiyoMagica
    @MichiyoMagica4 ай бұрын

    This fucks me up because i remember following Cry through his rise to popularity. Legit I can remember seeing his creepy pasta readings JUST being uploaded and sharing them with my friends at school. I was captivated back then with his voice and the emotion he could put into it. Insane as an adult now to listen back and hear how he spoke and what he did. He literally speaks like a manipulator.

  • @EctoBabble
    @EctoBabble8 ай бұрын

    It is so sad how I just listened to him a handful of times, knew he knew Jack and Pewds a bit, and then after years of just forgetting about him and going back to see how he was doing - to see ALL OF THIS. Just wow.

  • @Tamaki742

    @Tamaki742

    8 ай бұрын

    When the news dropped I was more or less in denial, but then like slowly accepting it. I feel bad for all the people he hurt. It's just such a tough pill to swallow. His D&D session with Russ and the Late Night Crew was what got me into D&D. That memory is pretty much tainted now.

  • @flervest3407

    @flervest3407

    8 ай бұрын

    Feels like this happens to one of my old faves every week 😭😭😭

  • @Providence..

    @Providence..

    8 ай бұрын

    That's pretty much the exact same way it went for me, crazy how things like this happen and you don't know until years later. Reminds me of SkyDoesMinecraft, loved his videos when I was younger and then I came back years later and found all the shit about him that happened. It's really sad how people you once liked turn out to be evil...

  • @ThePieMaster219

    @ThePieMaster219

    8 ай бұрын

    Bro same, he was just one of those youtubers that I completely forgot about and then recently just thought of and wondered how they're doing Lo and fucking behold, this video shows up on my recommends. KZread reading my mind aside, this whole thing is really unsettling.

  • @FargonNemeloc

    @FargonNemeloc

    8 ай бұрын

    I loved him, loved how sultry his voice sounded. Followed his channel for years and clicked with every notification that reached my phone The fact of the grooming was a hard punch

  • @anoukdevries8144
    @anoukdevries81448 ай бұрын

    The worst thing about cry is that it felt like he genuinely was a pretty wholesome dude. More so than a lot of KZreadrs. And so when I heard about what he did or... was, I was deeply disappointed. It felt like the world just got a little more rotten.

  • @loveableheathen7441

    @loveableheathen7441

    8 ай бұрын

    For real... I was a very depressed kid back then... There was just something so wonderfully comforting about his channel. I instantly fell in love, I watched so many of his let's plays, listened to all the cry reads. He was hands down my favorite KZreadr/entertainer until all this happened. He seemed so nice

  • @Former_Halo_Fan

    @Former_Halo_Fan

    8 ай бұрын

    I think another discomforting thing is that, in hindsight... all the pieces really fell together. What a lot of us probably saw as silly quirks or as him doing a bit, they were actually signs of something more disturbing.

  • @scarletbard6511

    @scarletbard6511

    8 ай бұрын

    He was the first KZreadr I found myself, and actually enjoyed the content of. I still remember leaving a hopeful comment on Draxr's channel, on the last stream the LNC did. Immediately regretted it.

  • @dassboot9332

    @dassboot9332

    8 ай бұрын

    @@loveableheathen7441me too, I was the exact same way. I had a lot of comfort watching his videos when I was a kid, but markiplier was a lot better and was ACTUALLY a super incredible human

  • @bruhmoment-sh7en

    @bruhmoment-sh7en

    8 ай бұрын

    He actually was my favorite youtuber for so many years starting when I was 14. He was part of the reason I got super into rpg maker horror games and (cringe ik I'm sorry) got super into Undertale. I even encouraged friends to watch his videos because I thought at the time that he was so funny and a chill guy. It's so depressing that those good memories I had of watching his videos are just broken now... such a messed up and unstable guy.

  • @noodletin7090
    @noodletin70902 ай бұрын

    I grew up in the generation where Pewds, Mark, Jack, Cry and the others were at their peak. Cry was my personal favorite, since I liked his "calm" demeanor and I like where his range and taste of games are more than the others. Hearing Cry's voice again after years in this video makes me cry but also gag. I'm around my 20's now, and I still couldn't forget how harrowing it is to see both the rise and fall of your favorite youtuber. As much as I loved Cry (and I honestly and genuinely still weep for him) for the solace and peace he gave me as a teen through my darkest times like many others did, I hope he goes through hell for his actions. What he did wasn't okay and will never be okay. Using mental illnesses can not be an excuse for his shitty actions. I honestly feel for his shitty upbringing cause I also had a shitty upbringing myself as well as two mental illnesses, but I can never vouch for using that excuse to ruin both his and other people's lives. He honestly could have gone down a more brighter and peaceful path if he had just sat and took a hiatus to face himself in the mirror to fix that one, broken inner child. He could have gone to therapy. He could have taken a step back and take a breath and excuse himself so he'll be and feel better. But no. I hope he goes through hell. As much as I have looked up on him and he became my comfort youtuber I could never stand by him. I genuinely hope he's out there getting his shit together, taking in the consequences of his actions, and be so damn sorry. also to those like me who missed Cry but couldn't face his vids ever again and had the itch of it, I swear ManlyBadasshero is such an amazing youtuber. I found out about him right after this whole fiasco (who honestly became my saving grace) and he has the same vibe as Cry's LP's. He's now one of my favorites and he's pretty funny and really, really chill and focuses more on a myriad of indie horror games, which is pretty cool c:

  • @MariaThePotterNut
    @MariaThePotterNut5 ай бұрын

    The part about Russ and "Angel" kinda weirds me out too, in a way. Like he only ever said he had a crush on her, not that they were actually an item. She chose to date someone else, yet it comes off like he felt like he owned her, and she was already his just because he had a crush. That doesn't obligate her to like him back or date him, even if she flirted with him or something. Like I've been there, thinking you might become a thing with someone and they start dating someone else especially someone you're close with, it sucks and it hurts. But she was free to pick whoever she wanted to date. You don't get to call dibs on a person or anything. Still shitty to go for someone a supposed best friend is into though, especially after doing that with his last relationship, not trying to say Cry didn't do a hurtful thing there.

  • @Topgear2006

    @Topgear2006

    4 ай бұрын

    I've thought the same thing about that too. It is her decision

  • @MariaThePotterNut

    @MariaThePotterNut

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Topgear2006 Glad I'm not the only one! Like he didn't steal her from you or ruin a relationship, she just chose a different option that wasn't him. Sucks, but that's life

  • @BioshockDrill

    @BioshockDrill

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@MariaThePotterNutshe was literally talking about fucking hin over text, not sure how it can get any more serious. But victim blame the person who got abused more.

  • @peristeris4749

    @peristeris4749

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BioshockDrillbeing sexual over dms does not mean you’re in a relationship or serious in any way. Talking and confirming that you are together does. Very immature

  • @duckduckie1436

    @duckduckie1436

    3 ай бұрын

    yea thats what i was thinking too

  • @komos3719
    @komos37198 ай бұрын

    The only youtuber I ever ended up feeling betrayed by. Just pisses me off what he did to Russ, hearing what he had to say gutted me and conclusively buried my desire to be a Cry fan.

  • @loveableheathen7441

    @loveableheathen7441

    8 ай бұрын

    Which quote are you referring to?

  • @komos3719

    @komos3719

    8 ай бұрын

    @@loveableheathen7441 not sure what you mean by quote, but Russ' entire video response - if that's what you mean.

  • @loveableheathen7441

    @loveableheathen7441

    8 ай бұрын

    @@komos3719 ohh my bad I misread. Yeah I agree that shit made me cry

  • @PremiumReyes2

    @PremiumReyes2

    8 ай бұрын

    Russ commented on this video, updating where they're all at, it's the pinned comment. He seems to be happy now.

  • @loveableheathen7441

    @loveableheathen7441

    8 ай бұрын

    @@PremiumReyes2 hey thanks!

  • @whydowehavehandlesnow
    @whydowehavehandlesnow8 ай бұрын

    Remember guys: AS SOMEONE WHO IS TRAUMATIZED, trauma is not an excuse to be a piece of shit 💙 Edit: the fact that you guys think "don't be an asshole" is a hot take is beyond me. Touch grass

  • @JimMilton-ej6zi

    @JimMilton-ej6zi

    8 ай бұрын

    Same goes for other things like mental health issues or periods, the sooner people learn that you're still a POS if you abuse someone no matter your current situation, the sooner people will learn to not put up with abuse.

  • @Hikarol-chan

    @Hikarol-chan

    8 ай бұрын

    Can confirm. Specailly in relationships (I come from one and iy was horrendous) Guys. Never, ever try and play psychology with someone just because you have a crush on them. That "I can fix them" is not going to get you nowhere. Don't go down that path. Absolutely not worth it. Stay safe.

  • @podled942

    @podled942

    8 ай бұрын

    While you are right, trauma sometimes is a or the reason why some people are straight up disturbing or even horrifying

  • @Soupysunsociety

    @Soupysunsociety

    8 ай бұрын

    But sometimes it always is ^-^

  • @alecwilliams8753

    @alecwilliams8753

    8 ай бұрын

    @@podled942your still a piece of shit if you enact on these feelings from trauma.

  • @infernox1099
    @infernox10996 ай бұрын

    This video shows two sides of a person growing up in a terrible household, from one side, Cry, who eventually lets the house break them, and Russ, who sees the house as a problem, and strives to rise above what they once lived through and be better

  • @MultiEnemis
    @MultiEnemis7 ай бұрын

    Man, this is really motivating me to get my life together.

  • @billcyphers3rdeye

    @billcyphers3rdeye

    7 ай бұрын

    me too. i’m in a similar position (NOT PEDOPHILE SHIT) where i am overwhelmed by the unproductivity of my life and feel very out of control

  • @GodsThirdEye

    @GodsThirdEye

    7 ай бұрын

    @@billcyphers3rdeye I dont think you understand what a pedophile really is. This clown flirted with 15 yo fans when he was 20 something. Plus the dude never did anything physical as far as we know. If he was 30 driving to a 12 yo house to sleep with them that's a pedophile.

  • @lilacpenguin5329

    @lilacpenguin5329

    4 ай бұрын

    Good luck, stranger

  • @lanesamoose

    @lanesamoose

    4 ай бұрын

    Hope you have been dude! 🫡

  • @spooderman6312

    @spooderman6312

    3 ай бұрын

    ditto, gl with it man!

  • @vta2265
    @vta22658 ай бұрын

    I've always wondered what happened between him and Pewdiepie. Remembered in one livestream someone asked Felix about it, and he gave a subtle hint of what happened, and he was genuinely upset about it, and especially what came out to the light

  • @ultimaxkom8728

    @ultimaxkom8728

    8 ай бұрын

    Source would be appreciated.

  • @vta2265

    @vta2265

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ultimaxkom8728 it was a livestream that he did two years ago or so where he went into it a little bit. There's also another video if you search for it where he very quickly skipped Cry's part

  • @kaorimiyazono4363

    @kaorimiyazono4363

    2 ай бұрын

    "It is what it is"

  • @Camothor10
    @Camothor108 ай бұрын

    Its crazy how respected cry used to be back in the day he was up there with pewdiepie

  • @RenShinomiya121

    @RenShinomiya121

    8 ай бұрын

    back then it's always Pewds, Cry and Ken. Then Mark and Jack also started to rise. Ken kinda fell to obscurity just because he focused more on being with his wife Mary and started being more chill, Cry was still really popular until one time he just vanishes and i remember at the time his Late Night community started throwing stuff like "Damn Cheyenne is toxic" but i kinda ignored the whole thing since i don't really follow him. But Ken still occasionally showed up on Pewds's vids meanwhile Cry seemed distant. Until one time when Pewds was streaming, a guy in chat asked "Why didn't you play with Cry anymore" and he replied "I just didn't hang out with him anymore, some things are better left unmentioned." In which i thought at the time, friendships kinda drift apart over time. until a week later, theres a video about Cry that just blew up. (Oh and this is also sometime around the Mini Ladd drama too)

  • @Illier1

    @Illier1

    8 ай бұрын

    Hell given how much Pewdiepie fucked up over the 2014-2016 era the bar was so low and he couldn't even handle that.

  • @mustofaakmal7493

    @mustofaakmal7493

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Illier1In hindsight Pewdiepie has a rough set of years lol. He's a strong person

  • @bunaynayslay

    @bunaynayslay

    8 ай бұрын

    @@RenShinomiya121 ken did a great job navigating his youtube career with whats trending all while maintaining a family

  • @Snakee423

    @Snakee423

    8 ай бұрын

    i never liked cry. there is allways something off with people using a puppet or a mascot like cry, you know they allways have skeletons in the closet

  • @nowwithvitaminr
    @nowwithvitaminr7 ай бұрын

    "she was 16 and cry was 22" bro, cry... cmon man.

  • @4T3hM4kr0n
    @4T3hM4kr0n7 ай бұрын

    Cryaotic sounds like a deeply broken individual. That essay he wrote about the boy in the abusive single mother household explains why he in turn became so sexually depraved.

  • @remmiwilliams

    @remmiwilliams

    6 ай бұрын

    Where did he write an essay? I feel like even this far ahead of everything I'm still finding stuff out of him

  • @4T3hM4kr0n

    @4T3hM4kr0n

    6 ай бұрын

    @@remmiwilliams it's in the video

  • @avalonazure5488

    @avalonazure5488

    4 ай бұрын

    Explains it, yes, but does not excuse it. Important distinction

  • @Signi9

    @Signi9

    4 ай бұрын

    15:00 ish

  • @Snazzynova

    @Snazzynova

    3 ай бұрын

    No shit​@@avalonazure5488

  • @nikkiyt758
    @nikkiyt7588 ай бұрын

    Grew up thinking Cry was just dorky and humble… listening to him again made me realize he was so cringe and defeated

  • @daviclemons6910

    @daviclemons6910

    7 ай бұрын

    Literally same

  • @soidesu

    @soidesu

    7 ай бұрын

    physically recoiled at his breakdown it was kinda disturbing

  • @teamfandomstuckgirl3490

    @teamfandomstuckgirl3490

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah it’s heart breaking seeing pewdiepie and cry play with each other not knowing what would happen in the future

  • @thecipher8495

    @thecipher8495

    7 ай бұрын

    No wonder the collab fell through@@teamfandomstuckgirl3490

  • @alantheam1035

    @alantheam1035

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah really, I mean I was in my early 20s and it was 2012, we were all cringe

  • @Euqoram
    @Euqoram8 ай бұрын

    Man, for me, Cry was the first one that stung. His videos and songs were a huge comfort to me back when I was younger, and 2020 feels like a lifetime ago now. edit: Yes, 2020 was 3 years ago, that's my point. It feels like it's been a decade since his breakdown and shit hit the fan, but it's only been a couple years cuz of all the wild stuff that happened over the last few years. But yeah, I used to watch him when I was a young teenager, and he seemed so wholesome. When I found out he was pan, it was so cool having someone I looked up to be the same as me, and then he turned out to be a creep. I guess I was lucky that I wasn't the type to DM creators or try to get involved, or I could have been one of his victims.

  • @kingkmtso5107

    @kingkmtso5107

    8 ай бұрын

    It's only been 3 years since 2020 chill 😂

  • @XepherXV

    @XepherXV

    8 ай бұрын

    Same, I even had two of his shirts, really sucks cause I liked those ones

  • @hossdelgado626

    @hossdelgado626

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@kingkmtso5107 they legit acted like they were 30 and its been 25 years, then I did a double take on 2020...

  • @sovviedan6791

    @sovviedan6791

    8 ай бұрын

    I watched his dishonored playthrough like 10 times at least just as background noise, so this totally sucked to find out

  • @spacedrake8364

    @spacedrake8364

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kingkmtso5107 "2020 feels a lifetime ago now" meaning they know?

  • @TenThousandTacos
    @TenThousandTacos7 ай бұрын

    I religiously watched his Let’s Plays and streams as a teenage girl (and yes, I absolutely had a huge crush on him). I remember watching his breakdown birthday stream but not really understanding all the shit behind it. I remember being floored when all the information came out. Coincidentally, by then I was very closely involved in the Smash Bros Melee community. It made up most of my friend group. June 20th, Cry was outted. June 30th, countless members of the smash community were outted. Felt like my past and present all shattered at once. I still have a Cry plushie that I used to cuddle with tucked away in my closet, gathering dust. Not sure why I keep it. I refuse to clean it. Just feels symbolic

  • @AmvReverdedStudios
    @AmvReverdedStudios7 ай бұрын

    As much as I kind of hate to say it. The fact it's been as long as it has and no one has said anything in regards to Cry or the situations. He may have "opted out" as they say. He was 31, still living at home, mental health issues, no real friends, no type of healthy schedule what so ever, deep emotional problems. Then he loses the one thing he had, his online life and persona. Essentially being erased off the internet from Twitch, KZread, etc. The way he had already been declining mentally and then everything exploding in his face. I wouldn't be surprised if it got to him in the end. I used to watch HELLA cry growing up. His collabs with Pewds were my favorites. I remember so many nights as a teenager going to bed with his let's plays on. He was soothing in a chaotic household I was growing up in. I fell off keeping up with everyone for years after I got out of highschool. One day I thought "I wonder what been going on with these people I used to watch" Everyone like Pewds, Ken, Marikplier, etc were all doing good, having families, getting big on youtube, but I couldn't find anything on Cry and I noticed everyone stopped collabing with him years prior. So I went to his channel and just got side swiped with confusion. Hearing the last 2 videos he had posted, then reading all the comments below, slowly piecing things together, looking up things on Twitter, KZread, sort of deepdiving, and my heart sank. One of the youtuber's I found to be most relatable, soothing, funny, and enjoyable to watch turned out to be someone I needed to stay FAR the F away from. I am currently 29 and the thought of someone my current age going after me when I was 15, 16, 17 using their online persona and fandom to gain traction on me freaks me out. I feel so bad for the victims he used, cheated on, lied to, and the friendships he utterly didn't seem to give a ish about at the end of the day. He destroyed all his friendships through lies, and infidelity. There is a part of me that considers with his background, child hood, mental health. That MAYBE there was a part of him at the time that really didn't see what he was doing was wrong, or that he couldn't comprehend the situation he was participating in, but eventually he did, and I think once he realized all of the bad things that happened to him in his youtube career were because of him. There is a part of me wondering if he could even cope with it. Like he tried to continue his streaming and posting on youtube like things weren't as bad as they actually were, or like he REALLY thought his actions weren't that bad cause he never actually got physical with anyone, or whatever the case may be. Him realizing "Oh sh-t it really IS this bad...there are a LOT of people suddenly exposing a bunch of things I said to them... people are connecting dots... people are asking too many questions that I don't know how to answer, if I am honest everyone will hate me anyway, but they seem to already hate me, so whats the point?" I think the pressure of owning up to everyone, everything he has done over the years was just too much. Which is why he never ended up posting a follow up video, or even stream, or anything. He couldn't face ALL the consequences and cries for answers on some serious allegations at once. If he was potentially investigated by the FBI for messing around with minors or what not, that could be another reason we never got an update since. Depending how legit any of it actually was. But yeah regardless... It is really sad to see how 1 person SO many people grew up with and looked up too had destroyed so many lives and affected so many people in ways I am sure still occasionally affect them.

  • @TheReaperHunter
    @TheReaperHunter8 ай бұрын

    Cry honestly to this day still has the best playthroughs of SEVERAL games. He was one of the very few Let's Play'ers that actually let the game tell its story and he paid attention. His commentary only added to each one. These days most channels are constantly talking over dialogue, not paying attention to the story or basic mechanics, and then complain about how confused they are. Then he threw it all away.

  • @norwegianboyee

    @norwegianboyee

    8 ай бұрын

    There are still a bunch of great youtubers who let the game tell their story as well as add commentary, but you're right that Cryaotic was one of the earliest ones of that style that actually took off.

  • @Ateezwooyoung

    @Ateezwooyoung

    8 ай бұрын

    Try CJUgames, Chris, he is a small let’s player, mostly horror and he is similar to Cry when he plays. He is funny and calm (mostly) and smart (mostly), he seems like an overall great guy. So far he doesn’t complain or cries about his struggles. He just announces when he took breaks or moved. He uploads every day, except weekends (and sometimes even weekends). Give it a shot. I actually believe that CJU deserves much more viewers/subs, because he is genuinely good. And he has no facecam during the play, but before and after to show some of the best reactions during the game and to say goodbye. 😂

  • @ixules

    @ixules

    8 ай бұрын

    Watch christopherodd he’s a good one

  • @00DarkPhoenix00

    @00DarkPhoenix00

    7 ай бұрын

    I think manlybadasshero is great as well.

  • @toxicmelon6836

    @toxicmelon6836

    7 ай бұрын

    Love ManlyBadassHero, he really let's the games take centre stage :D@@00DarkPhoenix00

  • @sonicrainicorn
    @sonicrainicorn8 ай бұрын

    When this whole thing was first revealed I felt so betrayed and angry. The mere sound of Cry’s voice made my skin crawl after learning everything. But now it’s just… sad. Hearing him again after all this time was more heartbreaking than I expected. It’s like looking at the ashes where your old high school was. There were some good memories there but mostly it sucked, and you can’t even be glad that it’s gone

  • @CleoVonGem
    @CleoVonGem7 ай бұрын

    I have screenshots from a search I did at some point after this all went down. I knew Florida was open about bookings compared to other states. I found a mugshot of someone who matched the description the Crew hinted at over the years. Blond hair, bigger guy, beard. The charge was "Enticing a child for indecent purposes". Ryan Daniel Terry, booked on 2/4/2021. I never got any further update on that case, but it was enough closure for me, thinking Snake and the victims really did contact an agency, that there was justice of some kind. It just... came out of nowhere, yet it was so obvious. Hard to describe that revelation at the time, after being a viewer for about a decade.

  • @coolgirlwowie5

    @coolgirlwowie5

    7 ай бұрын

    how credible is that tho

  • @candlejack101

    @candlejack101

    7 ай бұрын

    where can I find this mugshot

  • @jason7758

    @jason7758

    7 ай бұрын

    Its a georgia mugshot, not Florida.

  • @fighthive4808

    @fighthive4808

    7 ай бұрын

    Cheyenne said his name is 100% Ryan Terry.

  • @OGjuancarlosbarragan

    @OGjuancarlosbarragan

    3 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJ2Nu9aOfqSffqQ.htmlsi=dbrQB5M-JSutiCE3 wat bout this...

  • @probablyjinxed
    @probablyjinxed6 ай бұрын

    i remember this deviantart artist i followed a long time ago who spent their whole time on there making very well drawn fanart of cry and his friends. all of the hours they probably spent on those drawings just to go down the drain like that, i can’t imagine how that person feels…

  • @eehh2578

    @eehh2578

    6 ай бұрын

    was that scribblenetty? i also thought of all the animations she did for cry and pewdiepie together...

  • @probablyjinxed

    @probablyjinxed

    6 ай бұрын

    @@eehh2578 i remember that person too!! but idk i feel it was somebody else their style was more anime-adjacent…

  • @harukaissleepy8919

    @harukaissleepy8919

    6 ай бұрын

    I can't remember their username but was it the person who was trying to make a Cryaotic anime?

  • @corvinredacted
    @corvinredacted8 ай бұрын

    Cry went from being someone I could sympathize with to a predator. I disagree that what made him a failure was his inability to do anything with the opportunities he had for success on the internet. I've been there. So depressed that literally nothing could give me enough satisfaction or dopamine to motivate me. A therapist once asked me what kind of life would make me happy if I could do literally anything. I couldn't come up with a single thing. Mental health problems on that level can seriously incapacitate you. HOWEVER, that doesn't excuse his abusive behavior in any way. Especially considering he seemed perfectly aware that what he was doing was wrong and was intentionally hiding it. Severe, untreated (and sometimes even with treatment) depression can make it impossible to care for yourself and be successful in your life and career. It doesn't make it impossible not to prey on others.

  • @memr1a

    @memr1a

    8 ай бұрын

    This!!! Very well said, I hope this gets more likes

  • @elisa.alexander

    @elisa.alexander

    8 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate this comment. I also have been in that place, I understand the feeling. But it is such a big leap to become a predator. Mental illness in no way excuses it.

  • @SSelkie3

    @SSelkie3

    8 ай бұрын

    Hope youre doing better now ♥️

  • @corvinredacted

    @corvinredacted

    8 ай бұрын

    @fallenangel3742 I am, thank you! One of the big turning points for me was doing an intense course of DBT group therapy when I was at rock bottom. It focused more on how to manage my symptoms instead of trying to cure the depression and anxiety. I had always thought that approaching it as a chronic illness instead of as something I could fix would be too much like giving up. Instead, the coping mechanism managed to get me enough peace to actually start making progress. I went from the worst I had ever been to almost normal function for the first time in my life in my late 20s. I'm in my early 30s, now, and I'm excited about my life. I didn't know it was possible to feel like this, and now I know why life always seemed so much easier for "normal" people 😅 TLDR: Keep trying different approaches if you have persistent mental illness. You can be in unsuccessful treatment for decades and finally find something that works for you.

  • @Tauvuranu

    @Tauvuranu

    8 ай бұрын

    @@corvinredacted I feel similarly to you; I struggled through my 20's with depression and manic episodes of behavior; but never did that once spill over to commit a crime or harm someone other than myself. I had been a huge fan of Cry for years, and the emotion he could manage to get behind his voice without even adding a self-cam, and devastated when I learned he was a POS; in addition to another guy I liked that he collaborated with, Boyinaband. There's never an 'excuse' behind harm you do; no matter what harm you're suffering, there's a way to get around it without hurting others.

  • @Kyla8132
    @Kyla81328 ай бұрын

    Felix, Cry, Mark, and Jack were my KZread reprieve growing up. Mostly Cry. Really sad how everything went down. Nowadays I only really watch Mark.

  • @emmabenton-rx4lr

    @emmabenton-rx4lr

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Cocedealer almost all the comments are venting what’s the point of choosing ones and being salty

  • @calamityknyte

    @calamityknyte

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@emmabenton-rx4lrCause some people just want to be cool. They're not.

  • @thegshowgamesandmovies9448

    @thegshowgamesandmovies9448

    8 ай бұрын

    Fwiw, Jack's a genuinely lovely guy. Felix also seems alright and has definitely matured despite making some bad mistakes a few years back in his career.

  • @Blackemperess

    @Blackemperess

    8 ай бұрын

    Dodger too. Kept wondering why they never finished their collab.

  • @NoProblemoBob

    @NoProblemoBob

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@thegshowgamesandmovies9448to me personally, I accepted his dark humor because he knows when to humble his fans when they go feral against others. Most youtubers used their fans as a shield to get away from responsibility even if that genuinely hurt people. I also like how his audience matures with him, like I never seen someone complaining about a Pewdiepie fan. Speaking of his fans being mature, there was this one viral video from Jubilee, his community is the only audience that sympathize for a single mother. Other KZreadrs' community don't take single mothers kindly from my experience, so they usually ignore her existence and chose a different person to sympathize with even if he lied about some charity. He also chose his lover over his audience and wasn't scared to show her face. Some youtubers don't usually show their lover because it really pressed the audience, possibly causing heated debates from each side. Years ago, I think if was around 2011? I remember Pewd's fans protested how he "changed" and so they tried to blame everything on Marzia. Of course, he defended her a lot. Some male KZreadrs are willing to disrespect and throw away their SO for fans that never show their face just coz they protest that her presence ruined the content. Bro wasn't a good person, but it's easy to say he matured a lot.

  • @TheIceLurker
    @TheIceLurker6 ай бұрын

    I think a main reason why so many successful KZreadrs are eventually called out for interacting with minors is the combination of getting rich young and running out of excitement. When you give a kid millions of dollars, they're bound to do dumb shit, and once they're out of dumb shit to do you'll seek to do things normal soecity wouldn't want you to do, like have sex with a minor, do hard drugs, pay for snuff content etc. It's actually a very very common pattern amongst rich people to suddenly grow very dark tendencies after a while. Once you've obtained what you want in life it might be human nature to be drawn towards things you know you shouldn't have or things you know you shouldn't do. It's a very interesting psychological topic that I would want to learn more about in the future.

  • @VErisot

    @VErisot

    4 ай бұрын

    Then why is it majority men doing it though? if its human nature you would see all the female makeup gurus and vloggers be as predatory (a lot of them turn out to be shitty people but not grooming minors). Sure there are some female youtubers that have been predatory (colleen balinger for example) but it's just sooooo much more common for male youtubers. I don't think fame or power turns anyone bad it just allows them to do act out their deep desires, it might take some time for them to build up the confidence to do the heinous shit they want to so that's why their behavior start showing after some time. Maybe males are statistically more prone to predatory desires due to socialization or something... idk.

  • @iamkeithheart
    @iamkeithheart2 ай бұрын

    Russ is so right! How could you come from a broken childhood where your own mother was cheated on by your step father, an action you hated and resented that man for, and then turn around do the same thing to your friend?!

  • @ThrobbGoblin

    @ThrobbGoblin

    26 күн бұрын

    Same reason that a lot of childhood-abuse victims wind up being child-abusers in their older years.

  • @conspiracypanda1200
    @conspiracypanda12008 ай бұрын

    I remember watching his Cat Lady playthrough and how... _nice and supportive_ he was of the main character, stopping occasionally to talk through heavy topics like self harm, su*cide, depression and _emotionally abusive relationships_ with such tact and care. But I guess that just goes to show that you can have someone who understands or even just parrots good and helpful sentiments but is still themselves a bad and harmful person. Everything he did to his victims was a complete betrayal of what he led his community to believe. Given how easy it was for him to do all that while putting on a supportive or sympathetic face for his audience, I don't think that he could ever or should ever be trusted to come back. (I edited the last line to say "I don't think" instead of "I don't know" because I realised from replies that it sounds almost like I think Cry should come back. To be clear: I do not want him back. I think that due to the constant pity parties he threw for himself and the young people he emotionally sexually abused he should stay logged off forever.)

  • @JEDUBBELLE

    @JEDUBBELLE

    8 ай бұрын

    Parasocial relationships are a hoot. And no, don't trust people online. Did your parents never tell you that? All the harm he caused, is due to the control and influence he receives from people like you. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

  • @keystep8669

    @keystep8669

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@JEDUBBELLEThat's a bit of a stretch. Saying someone handled an important topic with tact and that seemed cool is hardly a parasocial relationship.

  • @conspiracypanda1200

    @conspiracypanda1200

    8 ай бұрын

    @@JEDUBBELLE Excuse me but you extrapolated _a lot_ more about my "relationship" with this creator than I actually stated. I watched some animations involving him and a few playthroughs. I never saw any of his streams or watched the multiple emotional breakdown videos shown in this essay. I had no parasocial relationship with this man as I didn't even make an account to comment on KZread until 2016, but I did think he was a decent person until I realised it was all a lie due to his ability to hide his secrets behind a kind persona. So kindly take your want to ride a victim blaming high somewhere else, thanks. In fact, don't victim blame at all! Do you _really_ believe the kids and teens who were fans of his content are to be blamed for his online pedophilic conduct as a 22 year old man and up? Reevaluate your opinions immediately.

  • @Akrilloth

    @Akrilloth

    8 ай бұрын

    Virtue signalers often turn out to have the filthiest closets.

  • @hillabusterxx286

    @hillabusterxx286

    8 ай бұрын

    i completely understand your sentiment, i definitely enjoyed that playthrough and it is so, so unfortunate that it was an act yet it felt so natural. in my personal opinion, i’d like to see what that second proper apology video would look like. however, staying off the internet forever is the best outcome for the victims and everyone involved in the situation.

  • @fang4223
    @fang42238 ай бұрын

    Man. I remember a very heartfelt video Cry made addressed to his newborn niece for her to see in the future. I remember watching that and thinking "Damn. this is a good person." Lost potential is right. That stings quite hard.

  • @heychrisfox

    @heychrisfox

    8 ай бұрын

    I think about his niece every once in awhile. Although he was a piece of crap who would screw people over without much thought, you could really tell he was invested in making sure his niece had a good life. It makes me sad, because at the time of his downfall, he was basically his family's only financial lifeline. He just bought a brand new house in Florida for all of them to live in. Who knows what happened to them.

  • @thaloblue

    @thaloblue

    8 ай бұрын

    I remember him becoming an uncle too! I hope her mother knows enough to keep him far away from her.

  • @heychrisfox

    @heychrisfox

    8 ай бұрын

    @@thaloblue Unfortunately, from what I remember, his sister was leeching lots of money off him. So with the majority of his income drying up, I can't imagine that went well.

  • @Scrofar

    @Scrofar

    8 ай бұрын

    OUCH. I completely forgot about about it. I remember thinking it the sweetest thing someone's ever done for a newborn family member. Honestly I kinda hope she never finds the video. It'd probably be for the better.

  • @fang4223

    @fang4223

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Scrofar Same, sad as it is.

  • @blooazxul
    @blooazxul6 ай бұрын

    I remember i took a break from him once i got to freshman year of high school just bc i got into other different interests and what not. After i graduated i got all nostalgic and started rewatching and catching up on new videos and livestreams from him. Literally the day after that he uploaded The final video. Felt kind of like a cruel cosmic joke. lol.

  • @hexmoonstone7998
    @hexmoonstone79987 ай бұрын

    I would listen to Cry Reads to sleep at night most of my high school and college career. It's really sad to see where he ended up because it was something that really helped me though a tough stretch of time in my life.

  • @TheBeastBandit
    @TheBeastBandit8 ай бұрын

    I was a fan of Cry when I was a child. I watched his ōkami play through religiously. As a kid, it’s easy to miss that he always talked like a mental patient because he just sounded like…everyone else during that era of KZread. But now that I’m grown, homeboy was UNWELL. Like, probably from the start.

  • @daixensorest

    @daixensorest

    8 ай бұрын

    That's something that got me too, like I didn't really watch the Cry Talks, but sheesh how naïve was I as a kid to miss this much??

  • @ghostlyhousehorrors

    @ghostlyhousehorrors

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm aware this may be way off topic but if you ever wanted to revisit watching a playthrough of Okami I suggest chuggaconroy's playthrough. The guy has times during his let's play where he shares facts about of japanese mythology and folklore that the game draws inspiration from (dude legit did homework before doing the lets play) , in addition he also gives good advice and strategies on the game. If you haven't seen chuggaconroy's let's play, I highly recommend it being the best let's play of the game, (the definitive let's play in my opinion . Sorry about the off topic, I'm jusr very passionate about Okami and hearing about let's plays made me what to share others of good let's plays by other youtubers

  • @mcholy333

    @mcholy333

    8 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @StarryxNight5

    @StarryxNight5

    8 ай бұрын

    God, that Okami playthrough meant so much to me. I just binged it all in one go and it was so comfy. Same with his Bioshock playthrough. Cry actually was the one who introduced me to Undertale too, which is really fucking weird to think about

  • @iconica9516

    @iconica9516

    8 ай бұрын

    @@urheehoo because every mental patient is the same good job generalizing everything!

  • @nintendogh0st
    @nintendogh0st8 ай бұрын

    It’s so insane watching manipulators/abusers cry and play victim, even though it’s such an expected behavior it shocks me when they do it every time. Like cry sitting on stream sobbing saying “I hate disappointing people” while wrecking his friends relationship and grooming children is peak freaky manipulative creep behavior

  • @kutaoizumi4189

    @kutaoizumi4189

    8 ай бұрын

    "I've always just wanted to make people happy" 🤨🤨🤨🤨 And then the "apology" bruh. I remember watching that shit and being like "bro drop the facade and come clean you piece of shit". Legit not a pint of remorse in anything he was saying.

  • @megarat1777

    @megarat1777

    8 ай бұрын

    no bro thats the thing they fully believe it too!!!! and that literally makes it almost worse to me cause its like wow you really just cant stop yourself huh, you really dont see people as autonomously important enough to take responsibility over what you really think and how you Really treat them

  • @YazYaro

    @YazYaro

    8 ай бұрын

    There are a lot of cases where someone might look like an abuser because they're simply lashing out and against the actual abuser. Gotta be wary of those. But this isn't obviously one of those cases, pretty much as clear cut and dry as you can get.

  • @incinncity

    @incinncity

    8 ай бұрын

    @@YazYaro youre correct and that was definitely how his viewers viewed his ex, you can see in the comments when she got on stream drunk with him how everybody was hating on her for saying mean stuff to him... little did they know that he deserved that plus more >_>

  • @flarestorm9417

    @flarestorm9417

    8 ай бұрын

    At best they have a victim complex that they think justifies their actions in their head. At worst they're just crocodile tears being used to try and get out of being held accountable. However, I imagine it's probably the former here. Someone who wears a mask a lot tends to not be very emotionally stable, as it were. And when someone just blames everybody else for their problems, they tend to keep doubling down because that's all they can do to try and excuse their horrible behavior.

  • @veronicap8739
    @veronicap87397 ай бұрын

    I used to watch Cry a lot back when I was 11-15. This was to the point that I would stay up at ridiculous times to catch streams of Late Night with Cry and Russ. I even made a Tumblr account simply because I knew Cry had one. When I think back on it, my fangirling hit me very hard and made up a large chunk of my middle school years. A lot of the horror games I love now are due to watching his channel. Unfortunately, I feel like many of those games have been tainted for me as I can no longer stand to think of the connections to him. At this point, I don't even watch Let's Players because I just assume they will do something stupid and have instead started to stream myself so that I can experience games without a middle man. I hope wherever Cry is these days, he’s haunted by the consequences of his own self-destructive actions.

  • @JensengTea
    @JensengTea5 ай бұрын

    Cry did some terrible, inexcusable things. But, I can’t help but feel empathy for the other aspects of his downfall. Aside from the degenerate grooming/cheating/whatever else, I think a lot of us can relate to feeling stagnant in life. To be a popular content creator with these issues must be a nightmare. I often think about how I would be as a content creator and I’m sure it would be similar to Cry. I’d be inconsistent and unmotivated, unable to commit to the content creation even as a hobby. If I were to become popular, I’d feel horrible for disappointing everyone and spiral. Popularity comes at a steep, steep price and almost nobody is creating content with a goal of staying obscure and not getting paid. If your popularity declines (for whatever reason), so does your mental state - this is true even for small creators with smaller audiences. It just sucks that we have to watch people destroy themselves… that we have to suffer along with everyone else affected in a downfall like this. Of course, like I said, the grooming he did was just unforgivable and inexcusable. But we watched Cry’s downfall in real time. Having felt the same feelings he was honest and real about is what made him so likable… and also what made it so upsetting when he fell.

  • @garbearfar1394
    @garbearfar13948 ай бұрын

    It’s crazy how Cry was literally the blueprint for Corpsehusband and Dream. A smooth voice that got millions hooked. Thankfully the other two haven’t gone too far off the edge yet but I don’t hold out hope. I used to love his longer horror game playthroughs, shit hurt to hear when he got accused then confessed.

  • @sadaddition1338

    @sadaddition1338

    8 ай бұрын

    He was. I remember around the time I stopped watching cry (16 or 17) and started watching manlybadasshero. I hope corpse doesn't end up like cry. I haven't really watch dream.

  • @Bruh-ok1rq

    @Bruh-ok1rq

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd be willing to bet corpse and dream have similar skeletons in their closets

  • @sadaddition1338

    @sadaddition1338

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Bruh-ok1rq true. I hope for the best but most likely it will be true in one way or another

  • @bachilles3285

    @bachilles3285

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Bruh-ok1rqDream's been proven, Corpse, even if he wanted to, I couldn't arse myself to imagine.

  • @TheSlipperyNUwUdle

    @TheSlipperyNUwUdle

    8 ай бұрын

    Both of them have me very suspicious. Whether is warranted or not. Dream’s mask is basically almost the exact same as Cry’s little character. When I first saw fanart of Dream I genuinely thought Cry was actually trying for a comeback. Not saying that part is suspicious. Just a weird coincidence.

  • @Omgdonut297
    @Omgdonut2978 ай бұрын

    I'm struggling to give a shit about what Cry's saying during his last livestream. "I hate disappointing people" if that were true he wouldn't have been hitting on Russ' girlfriend. "I just wanna make people happy" is one of the most self-pitying phrases around. I can't be fucked to have any sympathy for this guy outside of drunk mother and rotating stepdads. Great video.

  • @Cutiepie0111

    @Cutiepie0111

    8 ай бұрын

    Facts How tf is he gonna break down when he did this to himself 💀 image getting mad your actions have consequences

  • @dr.doctor4878

    @dr.doctor4878

    8 ай бұрын

    Breaking down when he can't use his pain from his childhood to improve himself. He have so many opportunities The title of this video is indeed accurate. A failure

  • @YEETUSDAFEETUS

    @YEETUSDAFEETUS

    8 ай бұрын

    imma disagree with the self pitying phrase thing lol just cause I've said that and I wasn't upset or anything I just wanted a friend to understand why I'll drive wherever or buy whatever just so we all can enjoy whatever is going on

  • @AedanBlackheart

    @AedanBlackheart

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Cutiepie0111 Maybe because it sank in finally genius...

  • @chief_mourner

    @chief_mourner

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@YEETUSDAFEETUScontext is key here

  • @jayduvlania2851
    @jayduvlania28516 ай бұрын

    It feels like thinking of an old ex and re living the good memories and missing them and then remembering the horrible things they did and the way they hurt those around them and you realize again that there’s a reason they’re gone

  • @ryman1933
    @ryman19337 ай бұрын

    this is why I never understood why people idolize celebrities and other social media figures, most of them are sociopaths at heart.

  • @S.K.u.S.H

    @S.K.u.S.H

    7 ай бұрын

    It’s hard to get fame…………if you’re sane

  • @CrazyAlienLady051

    @CrazyAlienLady051

    6 ай бұрын

    That’s the problem. We’re too quick to put people on pedestals but, when something surfaces about that person, we want to knock them down and put on surprised pikachu faces when it happens. People act like KZreadrs, influencers and celebrities aren’t human and don’t mess up or do stupid things.

  • @FrankandJoe3
    @FrankandJoe38 ай бұрын

    Just hearing his voice again made me cry. Cryaotic was such a huge part of my childhood and such a short of comfort. His betrayal is still to this day the most painful one.

  • @QueenKaitio

    @QueenKaitio

    8 ай бұрын

    Same here, I had to stop the second they played his voice because it just hurts so bad. I watched his streams almost everyday through college while dealing with a lot on my mind, but then the pandemic hit and this all came out. I was devastated, especially because that twitch community was amazing to be a part of.

  • @johnthecrazedsskull81

    @johnthecrazedsskull81

    8 ай бұрын

    Honestly It has been so long since I saw a Cryaotic video that I kinda forgot what he sounded like. Which makes me feel sad.

  • @CH-ls7ye

    @CH-ls7ye

    8 ай бұрын

    ye i stopped watching lets plays once i started college and had money to buy my own games. was at some point wondering what happened to Cry and then shortly after this whole thing came out like nooooo not you too 😅😭

  • @boodledemic6430

    @boodledemic6430

    8 ай бұрын

    I got into so many of my favorite games because of Cry. He’s literally a part of why I like the games I do today, and it’s such a weird feeling knowing he turned out like he did

  • @aelaworld

    @aelaworld

    8 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Still the one that hurts the most, still today. I cried so hard the day he uploaded that manic episode video. I made friends thanks to him and felt understood. I felt he was more honest and laidback and really liked him for that. Hell I even had a crush and some of my friends did too. Boy did I not see that one coming. But thanks to that I found another creator in the same vibe just waaay more wholesome: Manlybadasshero. And he is really talented and laidback too. If anyone is interested I really recommend him !

  • @kira-dk2mx
    @kira-dk2mx8 ай бұрын

    "This is just gonna be a chill birthday stream, okay guys? Let's get this party started!" 6 minutes later. "It's all falling apart, the sun never shines on my house and I'm in a downward spiral. Fuck everything!" That was certainly a depressing birthday. Guess I'll pour one to a dead homie.

  • @itme8622

    @itme8622

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm so sorry for your loss. May they rest in peace.

  • @MeGusta12697
    @MeGusta126977 ай бұрын

    This one hit hard. First and only youtuber I watched religiously. Watched every new video that dropped since like 2012 and always looked forward to the next upload. Still take a trip down memory lane every now and again and just look through the catalogue of old videos. So sad.

  • @mericuty
    @mericuty5 ай бұрын

    Honestly this video is so hard to get through as someone who used to watch Cry. Even though I know he's not a good person, the child in me that used to watch his videos is still there... Hearing him break down in these clips shatters my heart even though it's been a while now since all this came out. It's just so depressing. I really hope the people that he affected are doing well... Russ, Scott, Snake and the victims that he messaged all deserve to be happy without this weighing their hearts down.

  • @Nulldron
    @Nulldron8 ай бұрын

    "I don't like to talk about myself" That sure aged well, Cry.

  • @AhamkaraMommy
    @AhamkaraMommy8 ай бұрын

    It sounds like Cryaotic is a classic example of the "Cycle of abuse", growing up likely never learning how to deal with emotional issues and needing validation so desperately he'd go to extremes for it. Not excusing anything he has done, but I do think it's depressing to see that the dude didn't get the help they needed in time.

  • @maldacah

    @maldacah

    8 ай бұрын

    yeah no absolutely. it was just kinda.. sad watching this video because i've seen (and met!) people that've broken that cycle of abuse, but some just... don't. i don't know why. i don't think anyone can really know why. but fuck, it's vaguely depressing to see someone so complicated and troubled sink further into the darkest parts of themself. people tried again and again and again to give him an out, to help, to do whatever else. but for whatever reason he just didn't take it. he pulled so many others down with him and it's sad, man.

  • @boodledemic6430

    @boodledemic6430

    8 ай бұрын

    You’re not excusing his issues at all, you’re just making a point, and honestly this is how we need to look at these issues because it’ll help prevent future cases

  • @ZoulStar

    @ZoulStar

    8 ай бұрын

    @@maldacahMost people who don’t break that cycle are stuck in internal limbo of the past, coupled with deep self-loathing of themselves. Idk how to articulate it, but that kind of deep rooted mindset is very hard to get out of, especially if the person themselves don’t want to change and the get help they need. It’s more complicated, but you get what I mean.

  • @automatic5

    @automatic5

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​​​​​@@boodledemic6430no. its not about mental health its about perversion and predatory behavior and quite frankly we should not feel any sympathy for that disguting subhuman behavior. man is a literal pedo. i have no sympathy for his deplorable actions. hes had every opportunity in the world to improve and in the end he faced no real consequences despite comitting very real crimes. its disgusting. honestly its so disgusting to see so much sympathy for a pedo in these comments. this is the sympathy his victims deserve

  • @TheBakerZen

    @TheBakerZen

    8 ай бұрын

    Plenty of people have bad upbringings and don't become pedophiles. He could've had a great childhood and fame/money still would've led to this same depraved behavior.

  • @jesswilliams7501
    @jesswilliams75016 ай бұрын

    Cry's playthrough of Ib was one of my favourite playthroughs of all time. Listening to the clips you played and his voice gave me heavy nostalgia for when I was 14 and watching it after school. I loved Ib, The Crooked Man, Mad Father, Ao Oni and so many of the other RPG horror games of that time and my memories of them are pretty intrinsically linked to him. Which sucks knowing what I do now

  • @yeet2937

    @yeet2937

    4 ай бұрын

    right there w you that playthrough was everything to me, Corpse Party too. I tried watching them the other day because I heard after a while without uploading you stop getting revenue from youtube so i figured it wouldn’t benefit him in anyway but even hearing his voice now makes me feel nauseous :( sucks ass.

  • @mr.bologne1766
    @mr.bologne176619 күн бұрын

    Maturing is looking back on cry and coming to the conclusion that he’s literally got the persona of a discord mod

  • @futabagaming
    @futabagaming8 ай бұрын

    Cry's breakdown really hit me hard. I lost a family member around my last year of high school. It hit me bad. My grades tanked, I barely graduated, and I didn't do anything for yaers. 'I'm 30 years old and I haven't even started my life', a sentiment I'm worried I'm going to share. I just started college at 25, and I feel guilty for doing nothing with my life out of high school. I have no sympathy for a pedophile. But I worry about ending up like this. I'm hoping I can 'start' my life and turn it around.

  • @TastesLikeKurodo

    @TastesLikeKurodo

    8 ай бұрын

    hey, no ones timeline of their life looks the same! congrats on starting college 🎉

  • @thelingeringartist

    @thelingeringartist

    8 ай бұрын

    Your story actually gives me comfort. I lost my dad right at the end of Highschool. Threw a wrench in everything. It’s been over a year and I’m still struggling to get on with my life. I hope I can be like you and eventually get ahold of myself.

  • @ShinoharaMiyu

    @ShinoharaMiyu

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey, if you read this: I'm 29 and I just graduated. Lets look at tit this way... when you look back 20 years from now when you're 45, you'll remember you were a young person just starting their life with the freedoms of an adult. How about now? You were a little kid who couldnt even drive. Your adulthood is just beginning! You havent wasted anything!

  • @Myega

    @Myega

    8 ай бұрын

    Jesus, I thought you were talking about me here. What you described is literally my life. I also just started college at 25. Cheers to better years to come!

  • @Sc0pee

    @Sc0pee

    8 ай бұрын

    Pedophile, really? He was 20 something and was having sex with 16 year olds. Here in Finland that's the age of consent and is pretty normal.

  • @Acesahn
    @Acesahn8 ай бұрын

    So regrettable, his lets plays were perfect for me. His commentary added to the game's story, not detracted from it, he had a calm and soothing voice, he was funny but also laid back. He let the game shine and his editing only polished it. To bad he couldn't handle popularity or his own base urges.

  • @4belzzz

    @4belzzz

    8 ай бұрын

    his content was top tier, such a shame he's an actual scumbag

  • @VG-fk6nk

    @VG-fk6nk

    8 ай бұрын

    He definitely had an impact on a lot of people. A champion. But champions fall, and the only thing to do is remember the best of times, and move on.

  • @Palidor

    @Palidor

    8 ай бұрын

    His voice was obnoxious.

  • @friendofp.24

    @friendofp.24

    8 ай бұрын

    I was around at the time and liked PewDiePie myself but watching clips of him, he sounds like a creep. How can anyone find this voice soothing? Of course hes into minors with a voice like that.

  • @norwegianboyee

    @norwegianboyee

    8 ай бұрын

    @@VG-fk6nk I watched his let's plays when i was younger and liked his style, he seemed witty and genuinely immersed in the games he played so it was fun to watch. Now though, all i feel is disgust thinking about him and i've not been able to watch any of his videos since it was revealed he preyed on kids. It was so shocking when i first learned of it i was actually legit feeling like i was going to puke for days afterwards. Seriously, i can't feel any joy even thinking about his old content anymore. And he shouldn't be remembered as anything except what he is, an predator. No wonder his avatar was that smiley, it's the mask he wore at all times so people would like him. Hiding his true absolutely disgusting self.

  • @auroracullen7298
    @auroracullen72987 ай бұрын

    I was a fan of cry back in the early-mid 2010s as a teenager then stopped watching for a while, then decided to get back into his content again by joining his BIRTHDAY STREAM 😭 he did mention in that mess that he was going to upload a video the next day to get things off his chest and he was like, legitimately feeling relief that he was able to talk about this stuff and was looking forward to it. Fucking crazy what it ended up being about

  • @joshuasmokahontas9846
    @joshuasmokahontas98466 ай бұрын

    Grew up watching this dude, relating a little due to family issues. However, I grew up and repaired these damaged relationships, rather than letting them worsen while my decision making plummeted. Depressing to see what happened. Guess that’s life.

  • @Suguri
    @Suguri8 ай бұрын

    It's sad scrolling through these comments and reading about how disappointed everyone was by this. Y'all just wanted to support a dude you thought was sweet, wholesome, and chill. Which is in itself very sweet. You're all good kids. ):

  • @jacketofthe80s13

    @jacketofthe80s13

    8 ай бұрын

    Bruh its hilarious mfs say he needs help but thats the best part avoyt growing up and becoming an adult you see there is no help for these sick fucks cause there's no concequences for them. Fuck his fans trying to help him they need to grow up and see it at this point

  • @kattastic9999

    @kattastic9999

    8 ай бұрын

    I just wanna be nice. He strived to radiate as much positivity and sweetness as he could and I tried to do the same, only to find out he'd been lying from the beginning. Well, I wasn't. I'm still not; and I won't let a shitty guy who tricked me make me feel bad for trying to be a nice person.

  • @vampir753

    @vampir753

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kattastic9999 I think it is more complicated than that. I would assume that cry really and honestly wanted to be the person he pretended to be but he was emotionally unable to not engage in the cheating and grooming stuff. This in turn lead into his self-hatred and the downwards spiral, similar to a drug addict who honestly wants to quit but simply can't. So I rather feel pity for him in some way which I would not if he would just be the type of lying, psychopathic asshole that ridicules the people he betrays behind their backs. I.e. he is rather broken than evil.

  • @kattastic9999

    @kattastic9999

    8 ай бұрын

    @@vampir753 Honestly I think you're right, but that's almost worse.

  • @vampir753

    @vampir753

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kattastic9999 Kind of, the question is what could he do at this point to rehabilitate himself? Even if he would be 100% honest about all of it now, would his community accept him again or would there enough haters remain to make it impossible for him to continue? Is he even still alive? I am almost always for giving people a chance to move on and I think from what i have seen in this video about him he probably deserves a chance.

  • @MelodiesForTheSoul
    @MelodiesForTheSoul8 ай бұрын

    Cry: "Maybe I'll stop doing that." Joon: "He will not stop doing that." This transition deserves a fucking award

  • @mikeexits

    @mikeexits

    8 ай бұрын

    I must have missed it, dammit. I'll pay more attention to the transitions when I eventually re-watch because that sounds pretty great, in a morbid kind of way.

  • @jkuang9548

    @jkuang9548

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mikeexits 26:51

  • @SeppukuDoll

    @SeppukuDoll

    8 ай бұрын

    Arrested Development style.

  • @bannedfor30daysonfacebook41

    @bannedfor30daysonfacebook41

    8 ай бұрын

    bro turned into jcs 😂

  • @memaimu

    @memaimu

    6 ай бұрын

    I can break these cuffs.

  • @erinmartin9236
    @erinmartin92367 ай бұрын

    This was such a hard thing to watch happen in real time, especially given WHEN it happened. 2020 was rough for everyone for obvious reasons, but for me I lost my best friend in February-who had incidentally introduced me to Cry-then my cat that I’d had since I was a child in May on the anniversary of my mom’s death. I tried turning to a presence that had been calming for me in the past and found this whole shitshow going down. Obviously my experience was relatively insignificant, but given everything else it felt like yet another personal catastrophe in an extremely short period

  • @iwakeupandboomimarat

    @iwakeupandboomimarat

    7 ай бұрын

    oh my god that sounds like a horrible time to learn ab this :( im so sorry

  • @RustyTeethx
    @RustyTeethx3 ай бұрын

    I LOVED Cry when I was a teenager (I’m 30 now). I would put his let’s plays on and just have them as background noise and would sleep to his soothing voice. I was heartbroken when I decided to look and see where he had been because I stopped keeping up with him because of life. My teenage self connected so much to him

  • @vanillaseahorse4228
    @vanillaseahorse42288 ай бұрын

    Cry and Dodger’s Dandelion series on her channel was my emotional support series for several years. After the drama came out I tried rewatching it again and it just wasn’t the same. It’s very deeply depressing to have something I cherished for years suddenly tainted. There’s this one part from the playthrough I remember specifically where the main love interest is being textbook abusive and Dodger comments that this is an abusive relationship cycle and Cry affirms that and says “Ladies: Don’t let a man treat you like this. Ever.” It really… sits strange now knowing what we know.

  • @namelessliberty9869

    @namelessliberty9869

    8 ай бұрын

    oh my god that was my series too. It's what I downloaded on my phone to watch during my hospital stay when I knew I would have no internet there. Just the whole Dandelion series. I still watch Dodger streams but I can't hear cry's voice without being sick nowadays. I remember in this one stream she was asked about cry and just said "welp, if the dude is accused of something and just vanishes off the face of the earth, he's probably guilty". I felt so bad because she just lost a friend.

  • @kutaoizumi4189

    @kutaoizumi4189

    8 ай бұрын

    Oooofff, I just remembered that...

  • @vanillaseahorse4228

    @vanillaseahorse4228

    8 ай бұрын

    @@namelessliberty9869What makes me feel worse is that when the drama happened on Twitter she said she felt sick being associated with him because she (nor any of his friends or collaborators) knew nothing and was told Chey was just some crazy ex girlfriend.

  • @jinenji

    @jinenji

    8 ай бұрын

    wow you just took me back! i was obsessed with that series in high school and heartbroken they never finished it!

  • @StickWithTrigger

    @StickWithTrigger

    8 ай бұрын

    For me it was cox and cry play resident evil 6 it was such a comfy hilarious playthrough that when the pandemic started that was the series i went to for comfort halfway through rewatching that series the allegations came out and it hit hard man, the place i went for comfort turned to shit.

  • @nope-qi8zx
    @nope-qi8zx7 ай бұрын

    29:13 i remember angel, Russ and cry playing dokapon kingdom, and one stream you could tell there was something really off between them, and they decided to stop the stream. I'm 90% sure now, that was when Russ confronted them... Also, it was very obvious there was something happening between angel and cry to his audience. Constantly just the 2 of them streaming together. I remember his life is strange ssn 2 streams being obnoxious because of it. 30:15 or other members of the LNC for that matter... Jund and Cheyenne HATED each other, and Ziegs was basically being bullied by her. Not to mention she was an incredibly toxic, and manipulative person.

  • @mrfrostrunner5192
    @mrfrostrunner519219 күн бұрын

    You know this video really stands out from the rest of Joons. I really like his voice and I rewatch em all semi frequently, but this video is different because tbh, it’s the only one where you can really feel joons absolute disgust with the subject. With others he’s always impartial and he is here also, but you can really feel his absolute distaste for cry.

  • @sadaddition1338
    @sadaddition13388 ай бұрын

    Damn, i haven't heard crys voice since i was 16, before everything came out. This totally has ruined my childhood. I hope that justice is served for his horrid actions.

  • @H0peD3lusion

    @H0peD3lusion

    8 ай бұрын

    This whole thing ruined my childhood as well. It was a shock the last time I attempt to revisit his channel only to see that final Cry talks video. Never watch anything related to him since, until this video.

  • @AngelHernandez-vz3uw

    @AngelHernandez-vz3uw

    8 ай бұрын

    I was surprised it hurt so much, Hearing everything coming out slowly with more evidence was just... awful and I feel for everyone involved. Very bummed out about it

  • @s0urstr4wbz

    @s0urstr4wbz

    8 ай бұрын

    same i used to watch his videos all the time and it’s been so long i never even thought he was capable of this but i hope he does get proper punishment for his irrevocable actions

  • @SilimsLetsPlays

    @SilimsLetsPlays

    8 ай бұрын

    Don't kid yourself, absolutely nothing will happen to him. Doesn't matter if every single accusation is true, it needs to be proven beyond reasonable doubt to count in court.

  • @AraiDigital

    @AraiDigital

    8 ай бұрын

    At this point, would they even pursue it? It’s been so damn long since it’s happened

  • @MurakDurak
    @MurakDurak8 ай бұрын

    Oh man, this really hurts to watch. This is hits home with an old "best friend" of mine who had very, very similar issues: Lack of purpose, no motivation, no commitment, fucked sleep schedule, fucked family situation, no friends, loneliness, depression - the whole spiel. But there seemed to be a sliver of hope, a new purpose for him, entering his life when I met my back then girlfriend and introduced the two. They got along well, and grew really close since she also had mental issues and they could relate on that, among other things. And guess what - he did not hesitate to ruin everything he had (though not much, he did have two really close friends who would stand by his side, even with all of his issues) to take the shot and make her the center of his existence. By shittalking me behind my back and actively ruining our relationship, he took advantage of her emotional hurt from breaking up and they ended up getting together. A failing failure tends to drag others down with them.. Inspect your "friends" closely. Some people are not ready for friendships, and they sure as hell aren't ready for relationships.

  • @dinodare1605

    @dinodare1605

    8 ай бұрын

    "Some people aren't ready for friendships." The problem with this is that if a person has both no friends and mental health issues, most of the mental health issues can be traced to the no friends or are made worse by the no friends. When I had depression, I would have had depression anyway, but the symptoms were definitely made worse by the lack of people my own age to talk to.

  • @catspajamboree

    @catspajamboree

    8 ай бұрын

    Had a friend the exact same way, same symptoms, and same behavior, got a girlfriend (whose married btw and old enough to be his mom) and threw our entire friendship away when I thought it was kinda weird and warned him dropping out of college was a bad idea when he had free tuition. Instead of listening to me or just accepting I didn’t approve of his choices but loved him like a brother anyway just cut me off and to this day tries to paint me the bad guy and shit talk me to anyone he comes across. In retrospect I realized he was never my friend, I was just someone to give him attention and now that he found it elsewhere he didn’t need me. You really never know who the users are gonna turn out to be.

  • @jjQlLlLq

    @jjQlLlLq

    8 ай бұрын

    When you grew up starved of real care, you cling to whoever is the first person who genuinely consistently care for you & understand you. They'll be like your savior, put on a pedestal, and you'd be devastated at the thought of losing them. Unfortunately, it's not a behavior that one can really avoid through mere warnings. Experience is the greatest - and sometimes the only - teacher. That's my experience as a recovered maladaptive obsessive & love-starved person. I'm sorry that you had to experience the (shit)storm that the broken people have brought with them. It can't be denied that it will do damage and leave scars on the people around them.

  • @wafflegabba5970
    @wafflegabba59707 ай бұрын

    I remember finding out about his breakdowns on one fine, sunny afternoon, and crying along with him. I was pretty much just another teenage fan who found comfort and happiness in his Let's Plays or readings. Little did I know the reality of what happened later, I felt so betrayed and let down instead. Man. And he had so much eloquence and humor as well that made him so unique. It's a damn shame he went down the way he did. I am now graduating college in a month from now. More power to the survivors who spoke their truth because they're the real heros in this story.

  • @jmwkk

    @jmwkk

    Ай бұрын

    Hell yeah brother

  • @ellipszilonq
    @ellipszilonq7 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you're sharing this. I used to fall asleep to this man's voice when I was the same age as the girls he was messaging.

  • @iwilleatursoup3679
    @iwilleatursoup36798 ай бұрын

    I think the craziest thing is that he managed to stay anonymous while these days everyone gets leaked

  • @carby966

    @carby966

    8 ай бұрын

    They found out his name, it was also said during Pewdiepies Christmas live stream, but that’s all that was found out

  • @iwilleatursoup3679

    @iwilleatursoup3679

    8 ай бұрын

    @@carby966 i think they also knew other details but never his face so his real identity was never leaked

  • @cojemojoe4951

    @cojemojoe4951

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@iwilleatursoup3679it's not well known, but his identity was eventually leaked a year or two after the fallout by a former friend of his, Tolomeo, when he was drunk on stream.

  • @linasayshush

    @linasayshush

    8 ай бұрын

    They found out his name and one of two pictures of someone who might be him. It honestly seems like no one found much about him is because there was nothing to find - dude never left his room, never had a job or irl relationships or friends.

  • @carby966

    @carby966

    8 ай бұрын

    @@linasayshush That’s very true. that and it was a different time period, I feel like people today still would of been able to find more than they would have in 2013

  • @cho-ws4bf
    @cho-ws4bf8 ай бұрын

    His Cat Lady playthrough is what helped me realize I had depression when I was a kid and I was able to get the help I needed after that. The fact he was always pulling this shit sours that memory for such an important time in my life

  • @liriodendronlasianthus

    @liriodendronlasianthus

    8 ай бұрын

    I got into the game because of him

  • @cristinasandoval8541

    @cristinasandoval8541

    8 ай бұрын

    The same. I got into the game because of him, but barely watch it since I wanted to play it for myself. Taught me a lot about depression and the traps of self deprication. Knowing who Cry really was kind of sour my experince, but just like Eye of Adam, its probably best to just let him be forgotten.

  • @JustRelaaaxASMR
    @JustRelaaaxASMRАй бұрын

    Y'know the shitty part? He was genuinely funny with Felix and Ken when they played stuff together, he had some genuinely good horror let's plays, and he covered a lot of obscure games. He had everything laid out to be a lasting successful channel and he fumbled it all as a person and as a streamer. I'll still go back and watch their Scott Pilgrim video, cause it's still one of my favorite videos of all time.

  • @justinebpheartss
    @justinebpheartss5 ай бұрын

    I've been avoiding this video for a long while on purpose. I knew about Cry's situation even though I haven't watched him for a while, and I couldn't accept it. Cry was a staple in my pre-teen and teen years, a voice that comforted me. I would listen to his videos on readings and watch his horror games which a few in particular, I can't imagine watching anyone else and haven't watched since Cry's situation release. But now hearing this.. is just disappointing. I'm 24 now. I still have favorited videos of animations of Cry and Pewdiepie on this account. To see that go into a man, that's inconsolable on a stream? It was like I watched him fall apart and it was on him. It was completely on him. I don't know how to feel. I feel heartbroken for both the victims and the potential lost here. Pewdiepie is literally living his dream life in Japan now with his family, a child of his own. I don't know what Cry is doing but it's crazy how we meet people, grow relationships and then our paths dramatically change. I hope the victims can seek and secure peace. I hope Cry can come to the understanding of his actions and act upon it to fix what he's broken, by at least preventing it in the future. That's all I can hope for. I would have loved to see Cry on the big platform, laughing and having such deep bonds that pull out these wonderful inside jokes for others to hear, but it completely got ruined by very preventable actions done by Cry. It's such a shame...

  • @Nightshadow926
    @Nightshadow9268 ай бұрын

    I haven't gone back to look at any of Cry's stuff since all this stuff "settled" but I never realized that his godawful (self-flagellating/"I'm sorry for being such a shithead"-esque, hypocritical, manipulative, performative, etc.) behavior revealed in his victims' dms were pretty much *always* present in his videos and streams. He tried to make *his* issues everyone's problem and fucked up a lot of decent people by doing so.

  • @blackhawkz2499

    @blackhawkz2499

    8 ай бұрын

    I used to watch Cry as a kid. Then, when I was 14/15 I started to realize what an actual shitbag he was -- false sense of ego, manipulating his fans through constant sentiments of "I'm SuCh a PiEcE of ShiT guYs, WhY dO yoU evEn wAtCh mE' while simultaneously and slyly encouraging them to treat him like a god, etc. For lack of a better term, he's a fucking loser. To have such a dedicated audience and treat them like garbage is such a nonce thing to do. I've never understand the people that blame his behavior on mental health; yeah, it serves as a partial explanation but NOT an excuse.

  • @Velvetx4cove

    @Velvetx4cove

    8 ай бұрын

    And it's so messed up because as a child or a teen, you're unaware of how manipulative it is even though it's so obvious. Thankfully, I always found it weird how people obsessed over Cry, or labeled him as a victim so often, even though he shows some very weird tendencies that turned out to be worse than we imagined.

  • @Awesomeficationify

    @Awesomeficationify

    8 ай бұрын

    Ehh, I see it as a cry for help. (Not the grooming related stuff.) Self-flagellation can be as genuine as self-destructive stoicism. I fall into the later category most of the time. I let myself rot because needing others is bad and people figuring out you're failing is shameful. It's a toxic way to think. I think self-flagellators are just reaching out in the wrong places or to the wrong ppl. I'm not so offended by that aspect. (Again, not including the grooming in this in case that needed to be repeated.)

  • @Hippowdon121

    @Hippowdon121

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Awesomeficationifyno

  • @SeymourDisapproves

    @SeymourDisapproves

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Awesomeficationify you don't make cries for help to your audience of children

  • @VergilDevilMayCry
    @VergilDevilMayCry8 ай бұрын

    His okami videos were one of the biggest comfort series for me on youtube, hearing about how much of a creep he is was shocking

  • @hound8801

    @hound8801

    8 ай бұрын

    same here!! hes the reason okami is one of my favorite games now:(

  • @demothedragon6868

    @demothedragon6868

    8 ай бұрын

    Same here. I found out and fell in love with Okami because of his series

  • @Crackedcripple

    @Crackedcripple

    8 ай бұрын

    He introduced me to Undertale

  • @yakumoishere

    @yakumoishere

    8 ай бұрын

    It was The Cat Lady for me

  • @lavenderpaladin3182

    @lavenderpaladin3182

    8 ай бұрын

    Me too. It's so disgusting thinking that when I was a young girl I looked up to him when I could've been someone who could've exploited someone like me.

  • @SonicSanctuary
    @SonicSanctuary7 ай бұрын

    im still so saddened by this, Cry used to be one of my favorties one of the few people i used to actually watch full lets plays....but now i feel so empty. i was in a bad place back then and he helped me feel better... i felt something empty out of my soul at the time this all came out. like a glass of water being poured down the drain... it just still hurts.... that was the first time i felt so betrayed.

  • @phoenixflame189
    @phoenixflame1897 ай бұрын

    I wasn't planning on interacting with this video because I've heard enough from the old community members who brought it up, and it's been years and his legacy really should fade out - but it appeared on my feed, and the one thing I really do hope the people seeing this for the first time can learn is that the best thing to do is to let Cry be forgotten. As someone who used to be a fan, it really hurt to learn what happened. I was on the YT, Twitch, in the Discord, following on Twitter, and made so many incredible friends along the way, and his content and personality had been so enjoyable and comforting to have been around. Not only did it hurt for me personally, but it also hurt seeing friends who I met through Cry's and LNC's community be hurt because of his wrong doings, some even being direct victims, and that was extremely painful for me to see them confused and processing and so hurt. I couldn't even imagine what the direct victims have been through. To Joon: In a way, I think it's good to have made a recap of what happened for people who had no clue because I'm sure there were people who only ever stuck to KZread. But for the most part, this video really rubbed salt into the wounds of his old fans and especially his victims. I won't say to take it down, but I do hope you can understand that this was honestly not really a great video to upload after, what, 2+ years? Let him be forgotten so that his hurt fans and especially his victims can also forget.

  • @brigade7678

    @brigade7678

    7 ай бұрын

    in counter to your point I sent this to several friends who still spoke of him often in fond remembrance who now never want to talk about him again. Many many people were busy in 2020 and had no clue at all. Its a hard line but forgetting a person vs having an account of their horrid actions.... True crime all together wouldn't exist and we would all have no idea about how horrid many many celebrities have been if we just buried the info. Journalism would have no place covering horrid crimes. Some victims want their story / the abuser remembered for what they really were, others want to escape it entirely. I know its messy and complex and my own experience is both. I had one I never wanted anyone to know or god forbid talk about, and another I wanted everyone to know how horrid they really were inside. I don't think this video is in the wrong and it seems extremely sympathetic to the real victims and left off with harsh words on Cry.

  • @phoenixflame189

    @phoenixflame189

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@brigade7678 I think there's some confusion because I'm not saying to forget what he *did* like it doesn't matter, and if it appeared that way then maybe that was my fault in my wording. I'm more trying to say forget him as the charismatic character many of us came to appreciate, feel comfort with, and idolize, because then that will help his platform and legacy (in that regard) die down. He deserves to be fully deplatformed and to be de-idolized and have his kingdom of popularity die off completely. Not to be confused with forgetting him as a criminal nor his crimes. His crimes definitely mattered to all who cared, and it is definitely serious to account for his horrid actions and let them be known to those who never learned or those who still try to defend him. I definitely said that it's a *good* thing there are people learning now that he did such bad stuff from this video. The reason I am on the side of "let him be forgotten" is because it's been three years. Three years. As an involved community member, I moved on living my life. I do not and will not speak for any victims whatsoever, this is just my thinking and opinions, but I think it's very valid to say that the victims *also* deserve to find peace and justice, move on and not be hung up on this forever. On one's Discord and on another's Twitter, two victims - who if you've been on here and Twitch, you'd know they were big on the Twitch channel and were definitely in a few of his videos - they saw that this video existed and absolutely did not want to be reminded of him in any way whatsoever. For me, if I want to support those victims, no longer speaking about him nor reminiscing his content is putting my energy toward moving on with everyone else without him who wants and needs to move on. I personally haven't seen or heard from victims who still want his crimes plastered everywhere so I don't know how to help those out. I can only help and support in the way I can and know how. As someone who has also experienced both an abuser I never want to remember and some abusers I want everyone to know about, I would prefer to be able to move on with my life either way after dealing with everything, hence myself forgetting enough because I'm in a happier place where I don't need to be any of them. And don't get me wrong, I see and understand your point. I *don't disagree* that it's important for these things to not be buried. But at the same time, they kind of aren't... "buried"-buried? And to clarify what I mean, when I think of "buried" in this context, I mean like, there is active means and people are trying to hide all this stuff. To me and of what I kept up with, it's not that it's actively being hidden, it's just that most people have decided to move on and live their lives, victims included. All the info is there to exist on the internet as long as the internet exists. If it needs to come back, it will. For the victims who it especially mattered to, they dealt with the pain, the drama, videos, DMs, haters, etc those three years ago or so and of course are probably still dealing with it (like when videos like these are made and only make it more of an incentive for people to contact them and bring it up again, which is why I won't name the two victims because they already got reminded and messaged when they didn't want to. I saw one state that these video essays inevitably bring them hate messages, their words not mine, and you gotta admit how shitty unsolicited messages like that can be if they trigger your trauma and pain.) Snake had made it a point during then for any other victims to reach out to him so he can arrange a real legal way to deal with it. What happened with that? I don't know, and nor do I need to if I'm not a victim involved because the real victims need to have their privacy and protection regarding that stuff. They deserve to move on after three years and do things that will make them happy. If there are viewers who wanted to know and haven't been around, Google's right there. Some of the first things I see when typing "what happened to Cryaotic" are the Reddit megathread about it, the Wiki Fandom page, more Reddit, a bunch of YT videos, news/blog websites talking about it. Of course people can get very busy and the pandemic was SO stressful and busy for many, and I will say it again if it wasn't clear - I can see it as good that this video helped people learn what happened. The reason I find the video somewhat distasteful is because a lot of this has been put together many times and is said and done and it's been three years, and maybe that's also coming from a viewpoint where I kept up with a lot of his content and was very involved in the community, but it really feels like beating a dead horse. Idk if it's happened to you before, but sometimes even in good faith, sometimes words or actions won't always translate the way you want them to and can hurt instead. I hope that made sense because I know I typed a lot LMAO

  • @Rogueakeri31

    @Rogueakeri31

    7 ай бұрын

    Dont watch the video then.

  • @globewithglasses
    @globewithglasses8 ай бұрын

    The revelation of Cry's true character really hit me man. His videos got me involved in so many games and communities, some of which I'm still in. Nier, the Witch's House, the Cat Lady, Telltale's the Walking Dead. So, so many wonderful games and memories... started by a creep. It still hurts a little.

  • @starfiresreign

    @starfiresreign

    8 ай бұрын

    The witch's house & Rule of rose, walking dead were some big ones for me I looved crys playthroughs still hurts man I remember looking forward to more playthroughs

  • @aliceiscalling

    @aliceiscalling

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@starfiresreign A good alternative KZreadr for calm voice and indie games is ManlyBadassHero. Feels weird to recommend him under a video like this, but he filled the void when Cry stopped making lets plays.

  • @abigfishinabarrenswamp

    @abigfishinabarrenswamp

    8 ай бұрын

    Naw man here ya go…. Berleezy. He played - TWDTG -Wolf among us -corpse party !!! This was my fav cry series bro berleezy killed this play through I know there’s some others but he’s so positive and funny as hell and he works really hard to be consistent. One of the funniest communities on YT by the way. I liked Cry because he was savage sometimes. Didn’t know he was also so traumatized by life that he couldn’t mentally handle YT fame and went to on to traumatize everyone that ever loved him, all the fans that nervously move on to other communities hoping this fate won’t be repeated.

  • @i.cry.sometimes18

    @i.cry.sometimes18

    8 ай бұрын

    So true. He played the coolest and most unique games. Dreamfall and Dreamfall Chapters is one of my favorite games beacuse of cry and i followed him for years playing that series. And dude fucking Folklore is my shit because of him. It really does fucking suck and hurt to still enjoy these games but with a heavy and sad catharsis.

  • @heychrisfox

    @heychrisfox

    8 ай бұрын

    @@i.cry.sometimes18 It sucks, because even to this day, it's hard to find a content creator who plays those weird games. They're definitely out there. But Cry was always willing to dive into a really weird, obscure, controversial title, a decade before anyone else did. His playthrough of Fragile Dreams was especially memorable, because that game is so rare and impossible to play, since it's never gotten any re-releases, and is only available on the original Wii console. Same with Rule of Rose. His videos are a weird form of game preservation, as it shows an honest, straightforward playthrough of games that are so difficult to acquire now.