PCSX2 Emulation Vs Real PS2 Hardware (2024 Edition) - Affro's Curiosities EX
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Today, I revisit PS2 emulation by testing out the newest version of PCSX2 & pit it against real PS2 hardware to see how far emulation has come & what results you can expect when using 4K resolution!
See the results for yourself!
(Note - All games tested are PAL versions! This Used V1.7.5928)
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Chapters -
0:00 - Start
0:09 - PCSX2 Revisit, Settings Used & Real Hardware Output
1:21 - Gran Turismo 4 (576i)
2:38 - Valkyrie Profile 2 (576i)
3:56 - Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix (480p)
5:09 - Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner (576i)
6:03 - Colin McRae Rally 04 (576i)
6:50 - DBZ Budokai 3 (576i)
7:32 - Need For Speed: Most Wanted (576i)
8:48 - Tekken 3 Via Tekken 5 (480i)
9:39 - Tekken 4 (480p)
10:19 - WRC 3 (576i)
11:21 - Soulcalibur II (480p)
12:00 - Soulcalibur III (480i)
12:45 - Outro & Conclusion
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Here's an updated look at PCSX2 emulation against real PS2 hardware! Being an EX episode, this is not in depth as normal but still should do the job! Also check out PCSX2 on Steam Deck - kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYR9mKWaZJS1frQ.html (Edit: Many, many people are asking me about the background music starting from 01:22 ! The song is called Barham Battlefield and comes from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner! Also beware of KZread's Stable Volume feature, if the audio sounds odd please turn it off for the original sound mix as intended!) Also this video used PCSX2 V1.7.5928 nightly for Mac!
@jairocolombo4410
12 күн бұрын
Now they lauched the version 2.0 :) Would be good see the upgrade!
I'm just happy that PCSX2 finally made it possible (almost) to run games in software mode in it's original form
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It is so much better now and a good number of games run nicely using software mode :)
@matsunami
Ай бұрын
I prefer software mode to upscaling in most games. I don't like what upscaling does to to games and like things playing closer to the original format. However, 2D games look phenomenal in 4k.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
@@matsunami I agree with you, when I use emulation I use software mode where possible :)
@BigBoiUltra3741
Ай бұрын
Just imagine how good they really get when a ps2 static recompiler becomes available
@saidevpappu
Ай бұрын
but in software mode always shows black screen to me
This is "how I remember the game" vs "how it actually looks"
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@leeshenshun I still enjoy real hardware graphics despite their age but at least there is a solution:)
@detdeet
12 күн бұрын
Tbh if you had a CRT it looked like the emulator, the pixelation is a consequence of modern higher resolution TVs
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
I still enjoy my OSSC setup all the same, I don't mind the look at all :)
@justanannepfp9814
3 күн бұрын
@@detdeet CRT was the goat of videogames, and i still think it is, it had the lowest Input ms for a very long time.
I recommend people run the nightly version of PCSX2 since it has a lot of game fixes and a self updater.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
This was using the Nightly version of PCSX2 :)
@Preludedraw
Ай бұрын
Definitely but too much effort to use cheat engine on it or i'm too dumb. Seriously, no time to grind stuffs, just wanna experience the stories.
@cemsengul16
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Oh I couldn't tell because this is the mac version. I game on the Windows one.
@cemsengul16
Ай бұрын
@@Preludedraw pnach cheats are super easy to use. I'm just like you, I hate the pointless grind some games had back in the day. I am actually replaying games from my childhood that I didn't have the patience for back then and finishing them now. So every once in a while if I can't defeat a boss regardless of how many times I try, I will just enable an infinite health cheat and then disable it right after the battle, I am just into the stories.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Ah both are similar now in how they work thankfully :)
Thank to mr sujano for pointing out to this awesome channel and thanks to you for making this awesome comparison...👍🏽
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I appreciate this & thank you for the kind words :) Also thank you to Mr Sujano! I hope that I can continue on this path!
I remembered playing ff12 in pcsx2 32bit back then with many performance and graphical issues. Now, the latest version of the emulator was improved significantly and upscaling made the game looks amazing with stable fps/speed and no graphical bugs. It's amazing that Stenzek contributed and improved pcsx2 a lot in just couple of years.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Goes to show how much has changed with PS2 emulation :)
Hello from Mr. Sujano's channel
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Hello, hello, hello, hello :D
I want to note, it may not have fixed it here but I wouldn't use the same settings for every game if you're having issues like in valkyrie. The PCSX2 wiki has a listing for each game generally that contains specific config requirements in case a game needs it. I think it'd be a better representation. Good video!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Oh I know, I even said in the video during the game that I believed the settings could be changed or even fixed if you take the time to look but I like to see how the same settings affect the games :) Sadly I don't have time to show every setting combination possible so as I always say, try it yourself and see what works :)
@catgirllover666rockstargodmonk
22 күн бұрын
i aways have artifacts and sound bugs in Vlkyrie :(
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
21 күн бұрын
It's still not perfect unfortunately but it will get better as updates continue to roll out :)
Love these comparisons! Keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words :)
I accidentally had your video at 720p, I thought it looked nice and crisp. Pumped it up to 4K and :o Good work
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
7 күн бұрын
Thank you & on this channel I make everything at the highest quality possible:) Glad you enjoyed!
Great video! It looks amazing!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
I appreciate the comment & glad you enjoyed :)
Good information. I don't use emulators often, but this is going to come in handy. Makes some of these games look a generation ahead.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Information can only be good should you try to use it in the future :)
Didn't expect someone who also playing Cel Damage Overdrive. Good video!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It was a PAL exclusive for the PS2 and I was lucky to have mine from 2003! Still works 21 years later :)
It’s amazing how well the artwork of most of the games shown still holds up. With higher resolution and better texture filtering you could sell most as a remaster. It’s just some UI textures that could use a higher resolution and you‘re golden.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
16 күн бұрын
They do upscale well a lot of the games & it gives a new to a lot of them :) The emulator is getting better all the time 😊
Found this channel from my recommendations, algorithm in full swing.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Hope you are enjoying the content :)
@SRC267
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial so far I do. Nicely edited. Might subscribe
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I try xD
Something people don't talk about often is that under software mode, duckstation, pcsx2 and ppsspp offer 99% compatibility with no issues these days and you can use a dualshock 3 for pressure sensitive controls. The RPCS3 equivalent of that would be "Strict Rendering Mode" but that emulator still in the ~69% compatibility. We're not far from being able to have a "fully backwards compatible PS3" inside our PCs.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Emulation has come along way & it is always incredible to see software leap forward every few months or so :) The retro community doing what Sony & other big video game companies can't :)
@muchossaugus9927
27 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial They could but there would be no money in that and they are too busy shutting down emulators and rom websites.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
We can't have nice things for long can we? Shame they won't offer good retro game services instead, that would be the easiest solution!
@AdriHime
23 күн бұрын
unfortunately even software render doesn't fix everything, for example the current PCSX2 nightly build has a visual issue in God of War 2 that makes the wind tunnels not render correctly in the Dark Rider sequence, during his second sequence there is a white wall covering the island of creation.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
23 күн бұрын
This is correct & that is why there's still work to be done on this emulator but, it is in a much, much better state than ever before :)
Thank you for showing Valkyrie Profile 2. It's one of the game and series that's in my heart forever. For VP2 PCSX2 there are some cheats you can enable to fix the beginning zone issues and some other as well.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
6 күн бұрын
PCSX2 also got updated since this video & VP2 has been improved visually:) Hope the other settings & hacks improve preformce further :) & anytime!
Wonderful video, emulation is such a blessing
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Honestly, one of the best pieces of software ever made!
This makes me wonder even more on why big companies like Capcom doesn't want to release new games from classic franchises like Rival Schools with a PS2 4k graphics just like Tekken 4 and the Soul Caliburs displayed on this video...
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Sadly, many reasons :0 Money, time, audience, etc... Plus some companies just don't want our money I guess...
@francisquebachmann7375
19 күн бұрын
Closest you'll get to ps2 graphics of Rival Schools is Project Justice ( sequel to rival schools) for the Dreamcast. Which Flycast runs well.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
19 күн бұрын
I have that on real hardware, very good & looks nice with VGA!
Cool video, man.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
3 күн бұрын
Thank you & glad you enjoyed :)
Grant Turismo 4 is missing all the post processing effects like the depth of field effect. Also, didn´t Soul Calibur 3 support 480p? or it was removed from the PAL release?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Yes, I mentioned it was missing some effects during the replays (not sure if it was missing any in gameplay but I bet it was) & yes, Soulcalibur III did have 480p but only in NTSC releases :) My PAL copy has only 50 or 60hz support, no 480p :) Gran Turismo 4 is the same, no 480p or 1080i in the PAL version :o
Which version of PCSX2 did you use for the Video? The Stable (1.6.x) builds or the nightly (1.7.x) builds?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
25 күн бұрын
This used the nightly build :) This is the Mac version :)
I found THE GAME for testing PCSX2, and that is the game called Frequency. Its a time sensitive musical game. If the settings between graphics and sound aren't correct, you will have a bad time. From stutters, to missing notes even though you pressed at the right time. It took me forever to figure out the best settings for my system. But once I did, every other game played literally flawlessly. its the gold standard for setting up the emulator in my opinion. because all games play perfectly after settings it to play frequency.... on that note, the biggest hurdle is audio settings. timestretch is fine, but you have to reduce the settings. with x-audio2, reduce latency without touching the advanced settings as low as possible before the sound starts sounding like shit. then back up a notch to make it clear again. after that, go into the advanced settings for timestretch and reduce settings to their lowest (sequence 20, seekwindow 10, overlap 5). this will make frequency run PERFECTLY. and thus every other game follows. and yes, audio issues can cause games to lag/stutter when in reality they shouldn't.... for games with tileset issues, there was a fix build into pcsx2.... i remember where they are in the original verison (v1.6) but don't know where the settings are in the new v2.x editions.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
Can I mention two points - First, I defiantly will find this game, try it for myself & then see how the rest of my games play going forward :) Second, I wish more people would comment in this manner when suggesting ways to improve our emulation experience, not people saying x system is terrible or that I the creator is dumb lol xD Thank you for pointing all this out & people need to remember I'm still learning about the ins and outs of this great piece of software!
so u was using ps2 to scar cable or componets and then add mclassic? also if you only do a passthrough ossc will do noting to the game grapics
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
No :) I was using an RGB SCART cable on my PS2 to my OSSC when then went to my capture card :) The OSSC most of the time was in passthrough mode for interlaced content so I used my capture software OBS to deinterlace the image :) In 480p progressive scan games my OSSC was at line 2x mode, doubling the output to 960p for sharper results :) I do not own or use the Mclassic at all :) I prefer passthrough with interlaced content because it looks better, makes it easier to capture a screen shot and the OSSC's bob deinterlacing technique isn't my favourite :)
@PoisonX7
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial ohh oks , "ossc + mclassic" or "kaiko ps1/ps2 x2 lines + mclassic" helps old consoles for bether image, not as good as emu but close to it
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of the Mclassic & I much prefer a sharp look to my games but, this is just my preference :)
Nightly version fixed a lot of Valkyrie Profile 2 graphic glitches including the red filter problem. Some depth of field problems still are present though...
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
This is the nightly build of PCSX2 :) It is the Mac version so, perhaps the Windows version is ahead or works differently :)
8:11 that one feeling when you understand that, the icon (clock on top right) has a little arrow shoeing up or down. On ps2 because of resolution I never was able to puzzle it out.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
28 күн бұрын
I was using RGB SCART whereas maybe using Composite the icon was to fuzzy to see :) It was a lot easier to see thanks to the resolution boost of PCSX2 when using upscaled resolutions :)
PCSX2 is absolutely amazing. I currently have 68 games that look and run fantastically with this emulator. Some of the shooting games can be played with keyboard+mouse and higher frame rates like normal PC shooters. TimeSplitters, Darkwatch, Black, The Chikyuu Boueigun 2...
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
28 күн бұрын
It has come a long way & to see people using it, enjoying it, trying to figure out what graphics work best & of course, ongoing support means this emulator will be the ultimate PS2 experience soon if not already :)
I wish the devs include bump mapping/normal mapping shader in the future revisions. That'd be great and game changer.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
28 күн бұрын
Never say never and I hope this could be a reality in future updates :)
Wow NFS MW upscaled looks precisely like the one I played on PC. What an achievement by the team! Also, little I knew there is apparently a PS2 game about Firefly's early days on Glamoth :D
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
2 күн бұрын
It does look good & certainly closer, but it is missing effects & some of the extra foliage of the PC version :) Still a great game mind! Ah the more you learn :)
@hackdesigner
2 күн бұрын
Haha, lets just say I did not play on High back then 😂😂
@firzokkhan6443
16 сағат бұрын
You can make the PC version look even nicer with Mods.
PCSX2 just pushed an update that fixed a lot of the bloom rendering in games like Valkyrie Profile 2 at higher resolutions
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
That might be for the Windows version, this was using the Mac nightly build :) Had a few comments saying this now so maybe the Mac version will get the same fixes very soon :)
The history of the PS2 is a bit complicated because when it hit the market, the graphics looked great on old tube TVs. However, it was also the transition period to widescreen LCD TVs at 720p, and the resolution didn't feel as impressive. Developers had to navigate these obstacles. I believe that with emulators, we finally have a version of how PS2 games would look in optimal conditions on our screens.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
14 күн бұрын
While I feel this explanation does make sense since many companies wanted to move away from low resolution screens at that time, I still enjoy the look of real PS2 hardware despite everything:)
@kidrobot.
8 күн бұрын
nope, the transition would be about 5-6 years later
@CajunCatguy
6 күн бұрын
A fair number of flat-screens were in my dorm in 2005, and people were upset that their PS2s were looking shifty. It spurred the PS3 jump in my area. I still have my original release PS2, still play my collection almost daily. I'm more afraid of my tubeTV dying than the console, since I know I can only find flatties these days.
For pcsx2 I generally use progressive scan mode for the games that have it and no-interlace patch's for the rest. Gives you a much cleaner upscale less blurry.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
If the games support it, defiantly use 480p :) I don't mind the current upscale since I would use software rendering :)
I love how both Duckstation and PCSX2 share similar UI/UX elements now. And it makes me wish other emulators like xemu or Project64 took notes. Heck I think a games library with covers/tiles is a must, it's almost unthinkable.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@DaXzOr I hope someday the XBOX original emulation scene improves dramatically & if it does I feel many people will play it's versions of games :) Yes, the UI I hope would be like what we currently have with PCSX2 & Duckstation:)
OMG what is the song at 2:18 ? thanks!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
8 күн бұрын
Check the pinned comment if you want to know the song :)
What's the name of the background music ?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Which one? Timestamp please :)
@FrankenSama
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Starting from 1:21
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
That's a song from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runners :) The song is called Bahram Battleship :)
Mr.Sujano send me here ...
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Greetings and thank you for stopping over!
emulation is getting better, i have the pcsx2 emulator on my steam deck and it looks awesome, but still have my ps2 plugged with component cables on my sony trinitron 27" and still looks fantastic.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
22 күн бұрын
There's a place for all methods regarding retro games & to see you using both an older method and a more updated one shows anyone can get into the hobby more :)
what version of pcsx2 is this? There are patches to fix those issues especially on Valkyrie.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
21 күн бұрын
This was recorded on June 24th 2024 and it while I cannot remember exactly which version this was, I know it proceeded v1.7.5598 if I'm correct which released not long after I published this video :) Updates will always come out after a video like this is published :) (Edit: This was using V1.7.5928)
Valkyrie Profile 2 is such an underrated game.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
It is & to find it for £12 was a steal, very good game & graphically incredible :)
GT4 is literally an early PS3 game, they used the same accents in the Gran Turismo HD Concept
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Amazing how well the game has stood up :)
@user-yk1cw8im4h
27 күн бұрын
What’s an accent
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
Think he meant textures :)
@Mike-dr1db
26 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I'm not referring to the textures, but rather the 3D models of the cars
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
26 күн бұрын
Ah I see, defiantly agreed the cars themselves are still incredible looking in GT4 :)
Is the software mode better? I have a decent PC. Intel i5 12400f and rx 6600XT.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
17 күн бұрын
@fzz6716 Software rendering is basically accurate to real PS2 hardware so if you like that look or if certain games aren't working with hardware rendering, give it a go :)
Can you link the PS2 cables used? I'd also like to record native hardware.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
24 күн бұрын
It was the Sony Official RGB SCART Cable but, a better cheaper alternative is to visit Retro Gaming Cables & find a SCART or Component cable there :) Just type it into Google and it will pop right up :) I don't do links due to spam issues but hope it helps!
How's the input lag? Was the ps2 ever than snappy of a console or it had some innate input lag?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
8 күн бұрын
Input lag for me has & never has been an issue for me:) On Emulation I cannot guarantee if you'll have any :) I've played the two back to back for years with no problems but I think your system & the display you use may impact this :)
In my PC, Valkirye Profile 2 runs perfect and there is no more that red glitch with last version before version 2.0. I put a texture pack and it looks clean and sharp now.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
16 күн бұрын
@gutozardy5568 I know, this was recorded on June 25th before V2 & before the fixes for Valkyrie Profile 2 came out :) Stunning game though!
What song you use on the background?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
24 күн бұрын
Check the pinned comment of this video if you want to see what song was used :)
It'd be nice if you could add your testing of the games to the PCSX2 wiki.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
23 күн бұрын
It's not really my scene as I never get enough time to test the games extensively & by the time I do update anything, people are well aware of the issues and the emulators are updated every frequently now :) I appreciate the idea though, never say never :)
The issues in hardware mode for Valkyrie Profile were just fixed with two new upscaling hack settings. Align to Native HPO and Native Scaling. Download the latest development build and see for yourself.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I've had this comment quite a few times now but I believe this is related to the Windows version currently :) This video used the Mac nightly build so not sure if that one got the treatment but, if not it should adapt the fixes soon!
@bparks2193
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Mac version should be on the same build 1.7.5948
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
If it is then one day I'll make another video with the updates included with new games tested!
I miss the days when I never notice jagged lines in games.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
11 күн бұрын
I don't mind them, never have done but if you want to minimise them, just upscale the graphics and maybe add a bilinear filter to help soften the graphics :)
Can you tell me the outro music?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@@Dino-nz6mr It is from a PS1 game called Shin Senki Van Gale :)
Im sorry for not watching the whole thing rn. I just wanted to point something out that for the time the resolution of the PS2 didn't matter it wasn't really considered as the avg.CRT didn't really hold anything up to the 4k standards we see so common today. The coolest part was that it had the geometry, sound, looks, and feeling that made it better then the PS1 (sometimes) Im not saying that you should redo the whole vid with CRT but if you can try it your self. Its an added level also that most sets where 3x4. Wide screen was only a thing in the Movie Theater. Thanks for the vid have a great one.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
4 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I do not own a CRT although I'm old enough to remember playing on them back in the late 90s until 2012 :) While I understand why people love them & what they do, I'm firmly in HDMI & now I'm happy with how the games look using modern (Good) upscalers on modern displays :) It helps I have RGB SCART & Component rather than Composite although Composite still looks decent on CRT :) Ultimately this channel will cover the modern side of retro gaming but if you still love the CRT for your retro needs, keep using it :)
@ThePrimaFacie
3 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial No yeah I now get the reason for the vid. DUH (on my part) Im glad to that you where able to play some on the CRTs and Im also glad they are some what a thing of the past. PCSX2 overall has dome a long way in emulation. Although I think there is something to be said about the multiple steps in turning on a PS2 game. Flicking on the PSU, pushing the power button, etc. All the tactile steps and owning each part, no internet updates needed. Compared to most games now a days. Cheers
Song name? Is it from Z.O.E.?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Yes! It's from Zone Of The Enders The 2nd Runner :) Someone asked me the same question I think it is Barham Battleship :)
tekken 4 is still such a BEAUTIFUL game, even on native hardware (in progressive scan)
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
21 күн бұрын
It is one of the best examples of PS2 games looking incredible with 480p :) It was released in 2002 so it is an earlier title for the PS2!
Soundtrack is from zone of the enders 2nd runner
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
8 күн бұрын
Yes & the song name is in my pinned comment if you want to know exactly which one :)
i try my best to just play on actualy hardware, but its great for the certain games that are outside your region :). i do love the fact we can play these games in the highest resolutiion possible, like it would have looked as they were developing them. sadly a bunch of games run into graphical issues. ghosting etc.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
16 күн бұрын
@@afr_gem I feel the emulator has become so good that soon it will become the default way of trying or playing PlayStation 2 games:) They are getting less & less & software mode can be used instead if you do run into problems:) I also still love using real hardware where possible, I've always enjoyed the PS2 :)
@afr_gem
15 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial true they are getting better and better as time goes on!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
15 күн бұрын
It is always advised to check back with emulation every few months, the improvements are vast & worthwhile :)
It's quite impressive how well these 6th gen games hold up when upscale, in wide screen and improved performance, they look fantastic. Let's also consider that even 5th gen or other 6th gen 2D sprite based games look better on emulation as well, since the PS2 is notorious for having weird video output, specially compared to the Dreamcast, Game Cube and Xbox, which are much sharper in comparison.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
19 күн бұрын
Upscaling can defiantly look good and benefit some games, PS2 to my eyes benefits more than most! Ah I've done extensive work on the video outputs on the 6th generation consoles and here's what I found - PS2 - All regions have 480p support although PAL games had less of them but, overall video output is sharp unless a game had a flicker filter toggle which in all cases can be turned off :) XBOX Original - Sadly, this one is notorious! PAL systems had no 480p, 720p or 1080i options unlike NTSC counterparts unless modded & using standard resolution (480i, 576i) looks terrible especially because all XBOX games have a flicker filter which cannot be disabled outside a few games! Even then, the quality is still not up to par! Gamecube - Same as PS2, only all PAL systems and games did not support 480p without modding & component cables or a HDMI solution is required for 480p unlike PS2 which can use RGB SCART via RGsB or Component for 480p :) Dreamcast - Same as PS2, very sharp when using VGA for its 480p output (or an RGB SCART switcher which has standard output & 480p VGA mode on the same cable) some games do not support VGA mode so RGB is the next best cable :) All this I found using the systems for about a year or more each & I have videos on all of them here on the channel or even on my main channel (theaffroshow) Hope all this explains a few things!
@roberto1519
18 күн бұрын
Interesting, but honestly, PAL was never suited to video games, aside from very rare occasions, so, when we talk about video outputs, we are considering the NTSC standards. In that regard, the PS2 is the worst of the 6th gen, heck, even the Dreamcast features VGA output and will look sharp enough, while hooking a PS2 to a modern TV shows how bad it actually is. This is why my comment above applauds how well these games end up looking using emulation, beating the original hardware not only in video output, but performance and enhancements.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
I mean it is interesting because it depends :) As explained before, here in the PAL countries the PS2 & Dreamcast were the best whereas in the NTSC regions, the others beat the PS2 in video output but, the big selling point of the PS2 was the games & plenty of them still looked incredible in my opinion despite the others :) I know emulation can defiantly help now & there's other interesting hacks using emulation that can also make certain games more playable now thanks to CPU overclocking :)
Man VP2 really needs a remaster... would be a strong seller I feel.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
9 күн бұрын
Not sure if it would be a strong seller but I agree I'd love to see it remade! :)
this makes me what to get a crt monitor to see how emulation at a higher res would look like
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
26 күн бұрын
If you get a VGA one that would be absolutely incredible :)
Which song did you used? I remember it from a game, but don’t remember which one!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
29 күн бұрын
Many, many people have asked me about the music in this video haha... It is from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner & the song is called Barham Battleship :)
@Khazar321
13 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial it is almost like you’re supposed to give credit, when using someone else’s work. 😊
Whats the music title starting with the gran turismo part called?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
Check my pinned comment for the song in question as many people have asked me about it over and over :)
@spiral7041
23 күн бұрын
Recognised it instantly. It's from zone of the Ender's 2 in the bahram battleship level
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
23 күн бұрын
Most people sadly never played the game, myself included until I got both games this year :) Never had so many people ask me about a background song!
I used to love emulation but as I've grown up I've realised more and more how much of a compromise it is. Yes, it is very close, but the amount of games that have slowdown or missing effects is rather annoying, and upscaling games comes with a host of issues like incongruent textures and HUDs. I'll always love emulation for preservation, especially of obscure systems, but real hardware on a CRT is the way to go for me. Unless it's a handheld, in which case I can overlook these issues.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
9 күн бұрын
I love real hardware although I've switched to upscalers because of HDMI, no matter how you play, CRT or otherwise, there's a place for all hardware & best part is you can softmod the PS2 for cheap :) I will soon invest in a Memory card SD adapter so I can download Roms onto the PS2 & play them that way on the actual hardware :) I agree with your assessment of PS2 emulation but it really has come along way & many games fuctiom well & if you want more accurate PS2 graphics, simply use software rendering :)
Good video, though I personally prefer playing most games on original PS2 hardware connected to a CRT TV via s-video/component video. PS2 era games were not designed for 4k resolution on a LCD/OLED display so they look pretty terrible IMO when texture and geometry flaws are so readily sharp and clear to see. CRT TVs do a great job hiding the shortcomings of those games, not to mention devs leveraged the fact that CRTs have a natural anti-aliasing effect. I recently emulated Resident Evil Code Veronica and Silent Hill 2 and they looked terrible at 4k on my OLED TV, though on my CRT running on native hardware, they still hold up, especially Silent Hill 2 with its more gritty artstyle, it still looks beautiful even today.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It's quite interesting because I actually do not mind seeing the image flaws using my OSSC on my 4K as I love the sharp look of RGB SCART, S-Video or Component video but, I understand the thoughts and as I tell everyone, we can all play as we wish thankfully :)
@03chrisv
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I can understand that, some people really love having a sharp clean image. My only issue is that the artists and 3D modelers never intended for the game to be viewed at such high resolutions and purposefully designed the assets around the strengths and weaknesses of a CRT TV so it tends to break the visual makeup for me when viewed with modern displays and conventions. PS2 games for example look more visually and technically impressive when viewed on an era appropriate CRT TV vs upscaled to 4k on a modern TV.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Hmmmm I don't know xD I agree they were made with CRT's in mind no doubt but most people say you must use composite video :) Try a CRT with S-Video or even RGB and wow! Also, I always ask, if they were made with composite in mind, why do the consoles support other cable types? I feel RGB or S-Video was the intended look but composite was the most common and they had to keep this in mind at the time in my opinion but however you play or display retro games, as long as you have fun and enjoy what you see, it is a win win for everyone :)
@03chrisv
Ай бұрын
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Most people only had access to composite video so they simply didn't know better. S-video was superior due to better signal separation which made the image look its best within the confines of 480i resolution (which is the key here). Regardless if someone played with an RF connection, composite, or s-video the resolution was always 480i. Emulation, on the other hand takes the original source that was intended for 480i on a CRT and upscales it to resolutions never intended on displays that it was not designed for. Of course if people are happy playing that way it's fine, everyone has their preferences, but to me the textures, models and the effects of PS2 games simply don't hold up when played that way. Maybe 2D sprite games fair better, or simplistic cel shaded 3D games don't look that bad, but most other games do IMO.
@ojmachine9545
Ай бұрын
i personally dont worry about the intention of someone around 20 years ago in this media because art is subjective. i have a crt and ps2 with component out. i still run emulation for slower paced games like rpgs that dont need better latency or streaming since compatibility with my set up is more desirable.
Shoutout to ZoE2 OST
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
19 күн бұрын
Yes, many people wanted to know the song in question & I had to pin it xD
Don't forget that we can run the lossless scaling app to interpolate the 60 hz emu output to 120 hz for an even smoother look.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
8 күн бұрын
I never knew this was a thing & although my Macbook indeed has a 120hz screen, I'd rather play at the native hz of the game, but it sounds interesting :)
@cajampa
8 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial If there was an similar app on Mac I think you would prefer to run them interpolated to 120hz, it is surprisingly seamless. With only a tiny bit of extra latency and some extra artifacts showing. But the extra motion resolution is absolutely worth it in most cases. Check out some videos on it Digital Foundry have one for example.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
8 күн бұрын
I'll certainly look into it & if it does indeed work on Mac, I might showcase it if I feel it warrants a look :) But I will say, even if I do like it, more likely than not I'll just play the games natively, that's just me xD
@cajampa
7 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Just to be clear. As far as I know this is not available on Mac yet. But the same shaders could run on Mac hardware without any problem if someone makes them available. As far as I know it seem to be based on AMD's FSR3 and that code I think is open source. So it is possible someone port a similar solution.
@cajampa
7 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial By the way, how strange my previous answer was hidden in the thread but you got it anyway. KZread's censor is wild these days.
I've been 100% emulation for 13+ years now with every console I own (and uh.. don't own *cough*). The quality, and quality of life, improvements emulators provide just makes playing on original hardware a worse experience in every regard. Sure there might be some visual oddities here and there, but for the most part it's just a far superior experience. Plus we don't have to degrade our hardware even further, or try and lug out a working CRT. When you have emulators like Cemu effectively converting Breath of the Wild to a native PC game (uncapped fps, ultrawide, increased graphics options).. well, there really is no reason to ever use a console again. For novelty purposes though? Nothing will ever replace actually playing on old machines. Can reactivate memories you forgot existed. And heck, might even come to prefer some games that old looking way.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Күн бұрын
I feel your comment sums up perfectly what I & most people feel regarding emulation :) I will say I love still playing real hardware, albeit on a HDMI display with a good upscaler, still looks nice in my opinion 😁
Great video! Are some of the missing effects from using the Metal API? Looks great to my eyes though!
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I think it is a hardware rendering problem, same thing happens with OpenGL & Vulcan :) Only software mode restores the effects :)
Can you get this for Android? I currently have AetherSX2 for my 405M
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
20 күн бұрын
There is a version for Android called Pro PPSS2 :) I think this a new development though so, your best bet for now is AetherSX2 as you currently have :) PCSX2 may come to Android natively soon, I hear it is being worked on as we speak!
You should enable trilinear and anisotropic filtering for better quality. It doesn't affect performance on a modern machine.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
14 күн бұрын
@TOCS94 I'm not a fan of trilinear filter & I only use anisotropic when playing games that have a visible seam as you play (Gran Turismo 4 is one example) :)
with PCSX2 (nightly build) im enjoying more PS2 games 👌👌
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
This was the Nightly build of PCSX2 :)
I still have a SD CRT and real PS2 hardware for sentimental reasons, but these old PS2 games run and look better on the emulator and modern display. I played "black" at 60fps on the PCSX2 emulator and it was a much better experience (aiming at 30fps on the real PS2 feels laggy). Also, the CRT phosphor mask (I recommend guestHD CRT mask) allows me to get way more detailed and sharper image compared to SD CRT (PVM-like picture quality). For example, on my SD CRT I can barely read anything on the GTA SA map, however on my LCD monitor everything is perfectly readable despite the same 480i resolution. I always thought PS2 games looked best on my SD CRT, but I just wasnt aware of how much detail I was missing because of that extreme CRT blur.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
19 күн бұрын
I know I responded to this on my main channel but, it shows there's a lot of choices on how you can tailor your PS2 experience now thanks to both knowledge & the technology we have today :)
uhm you say better and better but unlike other emulators, the input lag issues seems to be ignored, are we not to play old games where gameplay mattered the most?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
17 күн бұрын
For me I've never had input lag issues & I've been using PCSX2 on multiple platforms & PCs for 8 years now with no problems:)
@MGrey-qb5xz
17 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial doesn't mean it doesn't exist, if you try same versions on other emulators like cemu then movement or response is snappier
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
17 күн бұрын
@@MGrey-qb5xz I'm not saying it doesn't but, for me personally I've had no issues & this is me comparing this emulator against real hardware, both at least with my setup feel the same :) Again, not saying lag is not there but, I can only give my thoughts based on my experiences :)
We still need a reliable one but for XBox 360
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
One day, one day xD
Honestly for some reason, for these older games, I still prefer the blurry textures especially when playing on bigger screens.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
15 күн бұрын
@@ForzaHorizon3-ln5vu In that case, real hardware or software mode on emulation is the answer :) I love how PS2 games look & I almost always use software mode personally :)
Something is really off with this emulator in terms of smoothness in motion. Animations of characters are not as smooth as they should. I think the real PS2 looks better, especially in progressive scan mode.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It might be because these are the PAL versions of games (some were in 60hz or 480p progressive scan though), some games also had performance issues like Valkyrie Profile :) Otherwise, both are worth a look and remember you can use software mode if you want more accurate results from the emulator :)
as a huge fan of Zone of the Enders, it's nice that PCSX2 can emulate the second game just fine, but I highly, HIGHLY recommend the MARS remaster - it's practically flawless and only adds to the game
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
19 күн бұрын
@TheExFatal I definitely want the remastered version someday but, I love the PS2 original & to have it on PCSX2 on my Steam Deck makes it a great way to play on the go :)
确实清晰了很多,看着舒服多了。
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
26 күн бұрын
Many people would share those thoughts & I know some people prefer the clearer look of the 4K upscaled graphics :)
Even today Valkyrie Profile Simeria remains unfixed in PSCXS2 .... guess i have to wait forever 😮💨
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
10 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say unfixed, clearly a lot of attention has been paid to the emulator & I can confirm this game is running so much better now :) Also, was updated, if you see my PCSX2 video on the Steam Deck, although still not perfect, the game has seen great improvements :)
Were you using a Mac?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Yes :) I did say I was using a MacBook, the M1 Pro 16 to be precise :)
@MrSamPhoenix
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial 4sho
Why are you using Mipmapping?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
I'm using the default settings most beginners would use so they can see the difference:) Of course if you want me to go further in depth with settings, I can in another video :)
I have a pnach code which fixes most if not all problems with Valkyrie profile 2
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
If so that would be a game changer :)
Yo, how were you playing Tekken 3 Arcade!? 👀
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It was included on Tekken 5 in the arcade history section which has Tekken 1, Tekken 2 & Tekken 3, all arcade versions :)
the future of emulation it's becoming more and more accurate than in the future they will be better than the real hardware, thanks to the AIs
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
It means soon everyone can play their favourite games no matter the system or device used, real hardware is also getting nice modifications too :)
We can't blame aether We can only support the team with videos of emulations Spread words of emulation love
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I know but I had to mention it as the team has not brought it back and we need to be thankful PCSX2 is still going strong :)
@Myako
Ай бұрын
Actually, we can. The programmer started getting rude, alienated even their fans and left a last version riddled with adware without telling anyone.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
This is why we have to support teams who are great to the community & are working on fixing or improving emulators that we use!
@Myako
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial we can thank the devs that took over after Talreth's childish tantrum and not only removed the adware but keep improving It in the form of NetherSX2.
My VP2 don't have these graphical glitches on PCSX2, there was already some fixes for these problems and some more others
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@@rafa.farinha This was recorded on June 24th & I know, had many people tell me & I can confirm the game is now improved with less gitchy visuals :)
@rafa.farinha
18 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Yup, i use the nightly pcsx2 so the updates came early, i also use the vp2 4k remaster v2 texture pack that makes it even better
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@rafa.farinha This was using the nightly build :) I just recorded it too early & sadly no matter when I post, the emulator will update :)
what's the name of the video music
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I've had this question a lot but, it is from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runners & the song is called Barham Battleship :)
Hello,can i run pcsx2 on i5-10500h 6 cores, RTX 3050 8GB,16 gb ram?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
14 күн бұрын
@bigbadaboomcz3551 Yes, easily :) As long as you don't go overboard with the settings your PC can run PCSX2 with little trouble 😁
@bigbadaboomcz3551
14 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I tried Black and when i looked out from window in the first mission,it slows down ee is high,i should add that it's a laptop not desktop gpu thus it's slower than desktop rtx 3050.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
14 күн бұрын
The Steam Deck I use played Black no problem with no errors :) I don't know your settings but on Steam Deck I either use software rendering or if you want to enhance the graphics, try OpenGL Hardware rending, keep everything stock vs the resolution output (try 2x or 3x) & it should be good :) Your laptop is more powerful than the Steam Deck so it should work fine :)
@bigbadaboomcz3551
12 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial i use OpenGL renderer,internal resolution 3x Black runs great with OpenGL.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
Yes, I use OpenGL just like in this video :) A great all rounder for hardware rendering :)
Need to redo this for v2 and up. Its night and day better difference
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
12 күн бұрын
Sadly, no matter what I do, the emulator will always update :) I could make a new video on it tomorrow & it would be outdated shortly thereafter :)
Based ZOE2 enjoyer
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
2 күн бұрын
It does have a great soundtrack & the game is good too!
4:34 it kinda looks better when it's softened
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
15 күн бұрын
It's personal preference, all other versions are actually sharper but I like the crisp look :) Nothing wrong with the softer look if you prefer it :)
Valkyrie Profile 2, the only game I want to play on the PS2 that i cannot play on my old laptop.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It is a tougher game to run unfortunately, maybe one day it'll work better with newer builds of PCSX2 :)
what would happen whit Ps2 2D Games like Castlevania ? would it look better ?
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
It would just look a bit sharper as you saw with the Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix section :)
Well NGL if you wanna see real hardcore change you should test MoH Frontline, not the remaster tho, let alone the FPS change is worth it + you can make the textures crisp unlike the blurry original
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
It shows how emulation can improve games over real hardware sometimes and this cannot be overlooked :)
I thought latest PCSX2 version had fixed most of the effects on Silmeria.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
26 күн бұрын
It has but this is the Mac version & I'm not sure if the fixes applied to this or the Windows version :) This video was recorded on June 24th 2024 so I think I just missed the update that fixes the game a bit :)
If you run the emulator at 640 × 480, you're upscaling it. The internal resolution of the PS2 is 512 × 448i/224P, and if you select this resolution, the emulator will look 1:1 with the PS2 for a more authentic look.
@nikodem123asdf
Ай бұрын
It's true for many games but not all of them. Most common resolution modes are 512x448 and 640x448. The emulator has an option to play with underscan in integer resolution but you still need to pay attention to the resolution I think.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
To me, I'm not too fussed with getting the exact look as I usually play with real PS2 hardware and I don't mind a slight upscale using emulation in software mode :) But the choices are there to make the PS2 emulator as close or as far away from real hardware as possible :)
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
@@nikodem123asdf It only matters if you want to use emulation to replicate the PS2 experience as much as possible but for me, it is not a concern :)
@nikodem123asdf
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial It actually helps for recording at native resolution since loads of games change their rendering resolution depending on whether it's cutscene, menu, battle system etc. From there I can use integer upscaling to get very sharp image for upload. I record longplays so these small details matter a lot for me. I have yet to use PCSX2 to record one but I have done some tinkering about.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
I can understand & yes that is a good point as not all parts of games run in exactly the same resolution :) For me, I never notice anything substantial from this as everything appears sharp to me using the settings I use but, I know for the best results, monitoring everything is key :)
dude... NFS:MW might as well be the PS5 version, it's that improved! Never expected a buttery-smooth framerate! XD
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
29 күн бұрын
Wouldn't say PS5 but I do understand where you are coming from :) Of course & even better, if you want to you can actually overclock although this was not used for this video :) Similar to how PPSSPP does the same with its games!
Nice man but your gran turismo 4 and valkyrie profile 2 are the european version in this version, if you use the 1080i in both version your video gonna be the maximun, too bad you use s-video cable, and only japanese version of valkyrie profile 2 have 1080i with the code after hold triangule and X.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
25 күн бұрын
Well I only own PAL games being from the UK & I did explain in the video that I'm aware of those games and even Tekken 5 supporting progressive scan on NTSC versions :) I used RGB SCART, not S-Video, I even showed the cable at the beginning of the video :)
@ailtonpassos9020
25 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial i thought it was s-video cuz is gray color so i think was a ps1 version of the cable.
@ailtonpassos9020
25 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial if have the chance try use valkyrie profile 2 japanese version.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
25 күн бұрын
This was a PS1 RGB SCART cable, might explain the confusion although the OSSC only accepts RGB SCART, Component & VGA :)
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
25 күн бұрын
In a future video I might, although the lack of an English patch for it makes it hard to justify :)
basically turns ps2 games into ps3 titles with the upscaled resolution
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
26 күн бұрын
That's one way of looking at it or it makes soft looking games sharp just as they should be :)
Good that the team pushing higher accuracy for it The good thing they did is gamedb
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
The games work better for it and to see PCSX2 work on modest hardware is the best part :)
I was wondering why the PS2 seems to be so much harder to emulate than the PS1 or many other consoles.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
23 күн бұрын
The PS2 was very well known for being difficult to develop games for due to its architecture & as a result, emulating the Emotion Engine & the various components of the PS2 was not easy! Thankfully, the emulation team behind Duckstation has contributed to the emulator & has made huge strides making this now a great emulator :) Sadly, the Original XBOX is proving to be the hardest to emulate & it is a shame because many of its games are still fun today :)
Insane how emulation is better than og hardware
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
27 күн бұрын
In some ways yes but it is not perfect and some games still do not work properly but, it is getting better with each new update so PCSX2 is a great PS2 experience :)
It kind of annoys me some of my must have games aren't running well on pcsx2 after my ps2 collection disappearing over the years, but hopefully in the few years or so they all get fixed its a tall ask being how many games there are.
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Many games that never worked or were having issues now work properly so, it is only a matter of time before the emulator improves along with game compatibility :)
@mrhappy8966
Ай бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial very true
@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
Ай бұрын
Keep checking for updates and one day, the games will work nicely! :)
@mrhappy8966
29 күн бұрын
@@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial 😁