*IMPORTANT:* Regarding the Update 200 patch notes. The recent patch notes mentioned _"Fixed an exploit on Counterfeit where the cops could be manipulated with loot bags. ",_ so many players have been wondering if this strategy has been fixed. For now, the strategy still works, but you need to use a slightly different placement for your body bags. Everything explained in this strategy still applies (except the body bags inside the kitchen), and you can follow this guide combined with the latest fix, which is explained in the new video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJimk6xyn9WeY6Q.html I'm glad that so many heisters are still enjoying this unintended strategy! For now, it's still available using the same techniques, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask here, or on the new video!

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@OVKL RIP indeed :( Moving on to v2 for now... no one knows how long this one is going to last!

@zglitch4021

3 жыл бұрын

Just tried it on 12/31/2020, The Safe exploding causes all guards on the map to reset simultaneously making the playthrough loud..

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@zglitch4021 Hey zGlitch! You are indeed half correct. Since the latest update, they have added a new loud trigger which causes the assault to start when the safe is blown open. I don't think it's related to the guards resetting, since you can kill them before blowing up the safe (which causes the 2nd cop patrol to be called in as usual) and the heist still goes loud right after blowing up the safe, even with no guards on the map. There's a couple things I can think of to work around the issue, but it's likely that the fix has been very thorough and stealth printing is now impossible. Update video soon!

@EnderSpy007

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb I am unable to load the written steam guide. Has it been deleted or is it a problem on my end?

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@EnderSpy007 Hey EnderSpy! It has been privated temporarily while we work on some changes, due to the fact the body bag technique was labeled an exploit with U200... it'll be back, soon hopefully! Until then, if you have any questions, feel free to ask on any of my videos :)

>stealth heist >dont fire unsuppressed weapons Ah, so that was my problem

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I had to mention it even though it was absurdly obvious! There had been some comments struggling to understand why the heist was going loud, and it ended up just being gunfire from the cops or shields because the players were spotted... so I definitely wanted to mention that together with the basics :p

@mauer1

3 жыл бұрын

with the beginner bank heists its easier to go with loud weapons though. having stockholm syndrome and a loud weapons makes controlling civs much easier.

@danielkaiselgruber1750

3 жыл бұрын

@@mauer1 Yeah but for this heist the entire gimmick is not making noise

@drillnewsandclips3798

2 жыл бұрын

@@mauer1 hello, I'm 10 months from the future but I just kill the civs

@DeitySkullKid

Жыл бұрын

"optional stealth? Okay I'll sneak around the back door" *Immediately gets seen* "I didn't even fire! Oh well!" *Revs minigun* Honestly, I was doing a mission and forgot I was *holding a minigun* and tried going for stealth with a rating of 75

I’m more of a loud guy myself but it’s interesting to know that people spend hours restarting heists for this.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Soft drinks! I respect that, thank you! It's sometimes common for loud players to slightly dislike stealth strategies, so I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching :) It did take quite a few restarts, but it was definitely worth it! Very unique strategy :D

@nerd_nato564

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, me too. Stealth isn't bad to me, but having to fail and restart a bunch of times gets on my nerves. However, here, it's 100% worth it, since there's no worries about running out of ammo or doctor bags in stealth. Just print, and keep on making BANK.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@nerd_nato564 Exactly! After you set up the heist (which isn't too hard after some practice), you can print for as long as you want without worrying about something going wrong (assuming of course that everyone in the lobby knows about the safe zone!). Very chill and relaxed strategy :)

@nerd_nato564

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Yeah, I might start using Counterfeit stealth for 200M offshore grinding. Just gotta learn how to do all this stuff with a controller now.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

​@@nerd_nato564 Good luck with it! I guess that's one way to farm cash as if you were playing an idle game :p

Cop: **sees a bodybag on the fridge** Also cop: **visible confusion**

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Cop: **guess I'm sitting here until that bag gets off the fridge, I have plenty of time to wait, no worries**

@cottoneyejoe8285

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb The cop: It's beautiful. I've been looking at this for 5 hours now.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@cottoneyejoe8285 It's so beautiful, that they forgive you for your crimes and don't call the assault :) It all makes sense now!

@user-tv2tj6pl4t

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb The cop: Sees bag Cop: COP-AI.EXE STOPPED RESPONDING PLEASE PUT HE BAG DOWN OFF FRIDGE

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-tv2tj6pl4t Cop: Please put the bag down I'm stuck over here :(

cut to an 80 year old cop staring at the same bag for the rest of his life

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah, he's gonna stay there forever, for as long as you host the heist :p poor guy doesn't get paid enough for this!!

@ManicObsevations

Жыл бұрын

You literally just shattered his world view

@Glazem00r

4 ай бұрын

"I spent 100 days in Marcmb's counterfeit stealth to see if the guard really stares at a unreachable body bag forever"

being a cop on stealth counterfeit is just "uhhh, ohh, um".

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

That's so funny the first time you hear them saying that non-stop when you're close enough to hear them :p

@egoruoff9850

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb yeah, it became annoying real quick.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@egoruoff9850 Yeah after you spend 1h printing in stealth, most of the sounds start feeling repetitive... luckily the stuck guards are relatively far, so you cannot hear them unless you're actively trying to be close to them :)

@crowsenpai5625

4 жыл бұрын

Cop (sees bag on fridge) “oh. Oh no. The training manual didn’t cover this.”

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@crowsenpai5625 Hahah, that's a good one! First time I've read this one, 10/10! :D

And THIS is what deserved to be called a "quality content". This game should have more members in it's community such as you, not that jerks who can only write "dead game" wherever they can and be toxic as hell. Great job buddy, real great job. As long as I already know most tricks of stealth, your guides sometimes can reveal something new for me. And of course they are very helpful for new players. Hyped to see more guides from you!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you atrekkers! Very kind of you :) I'm glad that you're enjoying the content, and thank you very much for the very kind feedback! I'll do my best to keep it up in the future :)

@potassium8759

4 жыл бұрын

Dead game

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@potassium8759 No it isn't!! It's doing quite well, and with the 7th anniversary coming up in 2 days, you can expect nice things for the game in the near future!

@cloaker2813

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Why did they made the game on a racing engine... It would be so much better with a good engine!

@potassium8759

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb yea ik, I just wanted to say it lol

Civi: Running in the Street Neighbors: HOLY SHIT, POLICE PLEASE!!! Helicopter: Looms in neighbors yard Neighbors: oh, lol. What's Mitchell up to again?

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah indeed -- PAYDAY 2 logic at its best, as usual :p

The circle on the bottom left showing the time the text will be on screen is definitely a welcome addition! It makes the videos a lot more enjoyable to watch, and your videos are already enjoyable :)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know Kyoto Productions, thank you! Since it was a step-by-step tutorial, meant to be followed "in real time", I assumed that many players would be pausing at different points to read the text, so an indicator/timer for the text felt very fitting. Glad to know that it's easy to spot, and recognizable as a text timer, thank you! :) I may be using it in the future, or some slight variation, because for text-based videos it's generally helpful!

Tbh, whenever I did counterfeit stealthing, I got confused really quickly, about the shields,why the neighbors called the cops etc, now even tho I know how to do it now, it’s still nice in case people didn’t, great job Marc :D

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

For sure! When I see new players trying the strategy, they always get confused by the many things that can go wrong at the very beginning (safe zones, hose, cops becoming stuck at the wrong position, then the shields, things that may go wrong when placing the C4...) so I definitely wanted to make a guide that had a better structure, and which offered the possibility of following the guide step by step while players do it themselves in real time :) Glad you liked it Blonde, thank you!

@nurs3826

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb New Players shouldnt even be doing these kinds of strategies / bugs . They should learn the game normally and after that they can do it

@anarullan

3 жыл бұрын

@@nurs3826 I mean I learnt the basic stealth mechanics from other youtubers and suddenly this popped up on my recommended. And I learned how to stealth counterfeit

This video is so well edited, your channel is very underrated man

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Igor! I think I'm getting better at editing and learning new editing tricks too, so I appreciate that a lot -- glad you liked the editing! :)

@Data_1223

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb With such video creating skills you will go far. Good luck!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@Data_1223 I'm glad you think so, thank you for the very kind words! :) Hope you'll enjoy the upcoming content!

@prigadiri

3 жыл бұрын

ltu?

you are simply resurrecting the dead game by yourself and your three buddies, i'm heavily jealous of your dedication to payday and polished youtube content

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you! That's a very nice and kind compliment :) I'm glad you think so, I appreciate it a lot!

@goldenirets8930

4 жыл бұрын

Дмитрий Венин the dead game that’s still in steams most games and has 15-25k people playing at all times

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@goldenirets8930 To be honest I agree with this! Game is definitely not dead: it has a lot of active players, and the community in general is great! Considering the frequent sales, and the 7th PAYDAY 2 anniversary coming up in 3 days, I expect great things, and high numbers, for the game in the near future!

@avvakuum

4 жыл бұрын

@@goldenirets8930 it may be so, but there is just veteran players sticking around and such vids may encourage other, new base to kick in

@AlphaModSquad

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb I just started cause of your stealth

Me: man i need to sleep youtube: Want a 30 minute guide for a game you’ve never played and don’t plan on playing? Me: hell yeah i do

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah, just the KZread algorithm doing its thing. Glad that the algorithm brought you here, and hope you enjoyed the video! :D

19:58 Damn.. how many times have played this heist?? XP reduction = -30%

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, well spotted krewlud! Lately I haven't been playing the heist a lot, because I like playing with the members of the Steam group, so shorter heists allow for more variety. However, while recording this video, I wanted many clips for many different situations so I ended up playing it a lot, quickly getting to the -30% penalty :p

@randomuser2020

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb haha, it's really nice of you that you've also created a video for this guide not only on steam. Also gentle of you to play this heist with others. Keep up the good work!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@randomuser2020 Thank you very much krewlud, glad you liked that! Originally, the Steam guide had all the details for players who wanted to learn more, but I ended up including most of the guide in this video, because video format is much better for this kind of thing. Also, many of those details ended up being useful for a few common problems answered in this video, so the end result is a video that includes almost everything from the full guide :p

@bigpapa4755

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomuser2020 you are still doing

Dude hats off to you, your content format is so professional and well done, the little yellow timer in the left is such a great addition to these kinds of videos.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Xinga Boy, thank you very much! Glad you liked the video and the editing, and I think I'll definitely be using this same "timer circle", or a slight variation, for future videos!

I like the timer you put in the left corner so that we know when the next segment/text is coming👍

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jamie, glad you liked that! I thought it would be especially useful for this video, because it's a step-by-step tutorial that will probably often be watched while playing the strategy in real time, so I felt like this would make deciding whether to pause or not much easier, and overall more convenient. I may also use it again in the future, or some slight variation of it!

I did this for 4 hours and made over 300 million.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

That's a long printing session, nice! I love seeing the piles of cash, and rushing to secure all of them as soon as the good helicopter shows up :D

@Godly_Spartan

4 жыл бұрын

Did it for 2 and made 60 mill. How tf did you make 400 bro? 😭😭

@Godly_Spartan

4 жыл бұрын

Did you have a full team of efficient printers or did you get the good heli spawn a lot?

@carlthelongshoreman1979

4 жыл бұрын

Mehkai Figueroa death sentence and perks that increase the money I make. And being infamy 20 helps too.

@carlthelongshoreman1979

4 жыл бұрын

Mehkai Figueroa good heli spawn.

I have been trying to do this for hours now, glad you came out with a guide to follow

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Bleuh, that's perfect! Happy to hear that :) I wanted to improve my current guide, because there were some very common questions, and I definitely felt like the proper way to make a guide was a "tutorial-style" that could be followed step by step!

Great video, thanks for all the hard work you put in. The handcuff guide was really well made and explained it perfectly, Never again failing to that now!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks addictedtooflight, glad you liked it! I tried to explain these specific concepts in great detail (and all the things to keep in mind) for players to be able to master each step, so it makes me happy to know that you're gonna be an expert of that "moving alerted cops" trick :)

I usually dont like videos on KZread but I had to like this one the quality is just amazing and effort and time you put in this amazing detailed guide is amazing, i love this video and i think more people should like it too because this video deserves it

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you svist, much appreciated! Thanks a lot for the very kind feedback, and I'm glad that you enjoyed the video :) I've been keeping a list of very common questions and problems, so I wanted to explain all of those in detail for this video. Happy to know that the end result is nice!

Such in-depth guides, all-across the board. I can only imagine the amount of time and effort behind it all. I don't even play Payday 2 anymore and am just watching for pure nostalgia, and so far your videos have been super enjoyable ! 💙 Can't wait for Payday 3 !! 😂

@Marcmb

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words, anonymous! Glad you've been enjoying my content, even as a currently retired heister :D I'm also really looking forward to the sequel. It's going to be great, I feel!

your amazing dude i cant believe you found this ive watched every video you've ever made on this

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Squwancher, thank you! It was a lot of fun to find this strategy, and hopefully by sharing all these details, many players will be able to slowly learn it too. :)

The amount of work and effort you put into these videos are amazing, keep up the good work.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Poot! Glad you're still enjoying the content, thank you for your support! :) I'll do my best to keep it up, and to continue making interesting videos!

I have no intention (yet) to recreate this but it's a very interesting video. Very well edited, with a no-nonsense approach! Thank you so much for this tutorial man, clean work :D

@Marcmb

9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words GRIFUZ! Glad you liked the editing and the presentation :)

criminally underrated video and youtuber imo

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tibby! Thanks a lot, I'm glad that you thought so! Although I always get a lot of nice feedback and comments on my videos, and a lot of players watching them, so I'm very happy with the current state of the channel! :)

I started learning this strategy last week and i gotta say learning everything from the body bag tricks, kiting the second cop, learning the safe areas, the hose, crowbar and crate spawns, getiing better at doing the first part quicker, killing the shields with the “pro” setup and distracting that annoying buldozer is so much fun. Thank you so much for your videos and steam guide for the heist.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you BluNex! I'm glad that you're having fun with this strategy, that makes me very happy! The best part is that some of the skills that you obtain while learning this strategy (like understanding how handcuff attempts work, and why cops sometimes shoot on sight; or becoming more efficient at killing and bagging corpses...) can make you better at other heists, which is great!

Really good video - I always wondered how to manage this in stealth. I don't want to use exploits or cheats but after way over 1000 hours of gameplay you start to get deeper into the mechanics and since stealth is my favorite thing in Payday seeing this video is really amazing. So nice that people are still playing this! The devs slowly start to realize what gem they've produced it seems. The game is constantly in the Steam Top10 of the most played online games. Other games can dream of such a fanbase!

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hey vi2e! Glad you liked the video, thank you :D I've always been in a similar boat, personally: I don't enjoy any exploits that trivialize gameplay (like sentry exploits in Cook Off, and many other heists), but after hours of gameplay you start learning things about the cop AI that you can use with surprising results :p I'm quite proud that the end result for this strategy is only using intended cop behavior (such as investigation of suspicious objects, handcuff attempts...), even though the end result is a bit broken, so it's in a *very gray zone* regarding whether it's an exploit or not! I agree completely that this game is GREAT and has both great replayability, and a surprisingly big, active community. I'm looking forward to PAYDAY 3 in a few years! :D

Great video, loved the in depth explanations, i can see you spent a lot of time in this, thank you.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you weeb wannabe, very kind of you! Thank you for the very nice feedback, and glad you enjoyed the video :)

This heist is the hardest to do in stealth , if u do a little detail wrong , u have to restart , amazing video marc , well edited

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

That's very true, Ace! It's very unusual (compared to other stealth heists), and if you don't do the required steps at the required times, you miss your window of opportunity, and the strategy fails! Glad you're having fun with the strategy, and glad you enjoyed the video :) Thank you!

I am a new player with just 60 hours of playing time. But still, the logic here is easy to follow and I think I could try this out with my friend. Gonna print many bags and get to infamy 5 first! Thank you for this great content !

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you vincent! I definitely tried to make the guide as clear, straightforward, and easy to follow as possible. So I'm glad that it turned out properly! Happy to hear that, and have fun with the strategy! :)

Whoa, I just sorted by new to see if this still works, and I cant believe you still kept responding to comments even after all that time! Thank you for your dedication and great guide!

@Marcmb

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely yeah! Every now and then there's a console player that needs some help (because it still works for them), or some PC heisters who wonder about the current state of Counterfeit, so I still make sure to reply :D Glad you liked the guide Necron, thank you!

I'm definitely not gonna do this stealth, but that info about the handcuff attempts is super helpful. Thank for some of the best informational Payday videos. :D

@Marcmb

Жыл бұрын

Glad that helped Nylon! Indeed, handcuff mechanics are universal, and useful on any heist :) Thanks for the nice words, and have fun using all this new useful knowledge!

Well,this solve my problem with if you have to restart when the helicopter arrives at the middle of the road,a pretty detailed guide. Good job! :D

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey adrian! That's absolutely correct -- if the helicopter arrives at the wrong spot, just keep printing, keep the bags close to the pool spawn, and wait for the good helicopter to arrive :p

Payday the heist vets:You can’t stealth counterfeit it was made before stealth was a mechanic THE FUTURE IS NOW OLD MAN!

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah! I've read a few comments from PAYDAY veterans who didn't even think this was possible. To be fair, I also had around 1.8K hours when we found it, so if someone else had found it before us, I would've been in a very similar situation :p It's definitely great to have something new to show, that not even veteran players could have expected! :)

Absolutely fantastic guide, and doing this mission gives me time to show your other guides to my friend while I babysit the printer.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric, glad you're enjoying the strategy, and liked the guide! :) I personally also love this aspect of the strategy -- compared to other PAYDAY heists, this one is surprisingly idle, so you can use the time to talk to your team, watch videos, and all kinds of things :) While still farming XP very efficiently!

I was reading your guide last night and it was a treat to see this up! Definitely trying it for sure!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Zachary, happy to hear that! I definitely wanted to make a guide that was easier to follow, and explaining everything in detail, so hopefully the video will be useful! Good luck, and have fun with the strategy :)

@tntdude1128

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb This worked great for me! 100 bags in 2.5~ hours. Only took me about an hour of trying to get the exploit right

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@tntdude1128 Awesome! Happy to hear that :) Congratulations on pulling it off, and I hope you enjoyed the experience! :D

"That safe cannot be drilled open" *proceeds to place a drill on the safe and have it work*

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, true! Although to be fair, we only drill a small hole to fill it with water, and then drop some C4 to blow it open -- so I guess it's still true that you can't _drill it directly._ :D

Tip for the kitchen body bag and ledge body bag: For the kitchen bag, it is easier to throw the bag right under the cabinet on top of the counter, jump on the fridge crouched, grab the bag, stand on the right edge of the fridge, and then throw it on top of the cabinet by looking towards the wall. For the wall body bag, throw the body bag on the ground near the corner, crouch on the shorter fence, grab the bag, stand up, and move near the wall where the body bag needs to land. Look straight up, then 10 degrees down, then throw. Hope this helps others struggling with body bags!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey MicroTurtle! This is quite interesting. I had seen many players talking about the fence route (essentially climbing something to get closer to the position where you want to throw the body bag, so that you don't need to jump before throwing the bag), but it's the first time I see an equivalent suggestion for the kitchen body bag. Definitely interesting step-wise procedures to get the body bag to its final position, although I feel like it's not that hard to get it up there in a single shot! But definitely a good alternative for players struggling :) Also I guess these step-by-step methods may even work without the Transporter skill, since you're much closer to the spot where you want the body bag. It would be interesting for a no-skill challenge perhaps :p

@microturtle7899

4 жыл бұрын

Marcmb God save anyone who tries this solo no skills :0

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@microturtle7899 Pretty sure it would be possible, the trickiest part may be getting rid of all the civs with just 4 body bags :p

@microturtle7899

3 жыл бұрын

Marcmb 2 ties and 4 bags means 6 civs, so if 4 spawn at grill including mitchell that's 2 ties left, just enough to take bikini and kitchen somewhere optimal to shotgun boost

Probably would never attempt this by myself, but I like how informative your vid is, quite relaxing to watch too, kudos

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Lizard! Very kind feedback, thank you! :) The strategy is indeed much better with friends or other players, especially if you plan to stay for printing. Makes the waiting much more entertaining. However, stealthing the heist, even if you escape right after getting the plates, is still a decent challenge if you wanna try it out :p

Great job making a video to help people even further!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mateo! There were definitely a lot of commonly asked questions in the previous comment section, so I felt like this video would be useful for many players :) Glad you enjoyed it!

managed to follow along and secure ~25 bags only to die to the shields as I tried to escape. Good vid tho.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Aww sorry to hear that. Did you not bring a sniper rifle like the video suggests? Or was it tricky to kill the shields even with a sniper rifle? Either way, congratulations on getting that far Creutz, and glad you enjoyed the video! Hope you had fun, even if it went a bit wrong at the end :)

Man dude, that was a great explanation, I think I actually get how to do this now, gonna try it again here shortly. Funny lil side note: I was originally trying this for a smooth infamy solution, and it's taken me all the way until I've hit infamy 25 to finally understand all of the concepts of it-

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha that's funny, unfortunately it's gonna be a bit too late to use it for infamy grind, but I think that getting used to these unusual concepts (and in general learning more about the game) is something great to be doing after you reach max infamy, so it's still worth learning! :p Glad you liked the explanations Tele, thank you! As usual, if you have any questions about any specific step, don't hesitate to ask! :)

@DerpyBattleMaid

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb The problem me and my partner kept having was I neglected to turn off team AI And I find it very funny that we did it flawlessly first try, and the only difference was that we just didn't bring the whole crew along! I'm gonna give that alternate bag spot for the second cop a try later on. Keep up the great work man!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@DerpyBattleMaid I see! That was very easy to solve then :) I'm glad I decided to include that at the beginning of the video, because it was a very common problem in the comments of the original guide! :D Congratulations on the 1st try clear, and enjoy the alternative body bag placement! It may take a few throws to get used to it, but it's much faster overall :) Especially useful in public lobbies, because there's 0 risk of the cops spotting a heister moving in the wrong places (except for Wilson's shed unfortunately).

Wait this is a better XP method (and safer) than Cook Off? I would not have expected that. Thanks a lot for the very detailed video!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

That's right BlazeStorm! It makes sense to assume that the XP values were balanced with Counterfeit loud in mind (the only way to play the heist when it was designed), and so considering that you have to split up to defend the power boxes, the printing machine, and also go outside every 60s to secure one bag, the XP values were set very generously. Of course, if you're stealthing, there are no interruptions to the printing process and securing the bags is very easy, and so you get a very efficient XP farming heist :) Glad you liked the video, thank you!

since you make my favorite heist easier (big oil) i start watching you videos, this one, make me try to do a counterfeit stealth, I didn't think it could be real, you are the best

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks SANTIAGO! Glad you enjoyed that Big Oil guide from about a month ago :) Thanks for watching the rest of the content, and hopefully you have fun trying this one yourself! It's a very unusual strategy :p

Hey Marc! First, I want to say that I’m a huge fan and you’ve had plenty of amazing contributions to the payday community. Thank you so much for your help with all of these heists!!! I was curious about a way to deal with the cops seeing you or moving out of place. I used to have a problem with this a lot but one time, my friend shot one of the lights in the basement and for some reason, the cop crouched and went into panic mode. I killed the shields when they showed up and the cop didn’t move. Since then, I’ve been deliberately shooting near the foot of both of the cops to get them to crouch and I haven’t had any problems. If you have time, you can play around with it and see if it works. I’m also curious about a golden grin speedrun. There’s a guy EsEr who went straight for the civ with the keycard and he didn’t get spotted! He has a video on his channel and I think it would be a pretty good challenge for you. Thanks again! Have a great day! :)

@williamgreens1541

4 жыл бұрын

There’s also a new crime spree glitch that I’ve seen but I haven’t tried it yet. It was posted sometime this week so you could find it pretty easily.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Williams! Very kind words, thank you! Glad that you've been enjoying the stealth guides/tips for all heists, I'll definitely be making more because it's a lot of fun to teach everything I know about stealth! And the PAYDAY community is great, always very kind and interested in learning :) If you're interested in making the cops crouch, the process to trigger that is related to intimidation, and is very straightforward: shoot in their direction, and eventually they will be intimidated and crouch. Not sure if that will be helpful (it's very hard to analyze how useful it is for printing runs, because the position where they are stuck changes from one run to another, so in order to test how reliable an approach is you need to try it many many times) but it may be helpful in some aspects! Also, I just checked out EsEr's video, and it's very cool! I've talked to many stealth players about killing the civ in the middle, but we always came to the conclusion that it's very risky and would require shooting the civ to a spot where he's hidden until you bag him. Very interesting to see him being bagged during the slow-mo of masking up, and using the bot faster interactions! Very nicely played :)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@williamgreens1541 Also, I haven't heard of this new Crime Spree glitch, because the Reddit and Discord communities don't allow sharing exploits. What exactly does this new glitch do?

@williamgreens1541

4 жыл бұрын

There is a KZread video by MrPlayDay. It’s 12 minutes long and it was posted 5 days ago. The video only shows that it works but he explains how it works in the comment section. The idea is that you’re supposed to join someone with a high crime spree but don’t actually join, just wait in the join menu. He waits on this menu for a couple minutes and then joins a friend who has a low, easy crime spree. They complete the heist and he’s given the catch up bonus as if it was the high crime spree. I’m not sure if his friend got the same rewards but it seems easy enough to repeat. This seems like a great way to level up very quickly as well as getting money, masks, armor skins, etc. And about the GGC speedrun, I agree that it was a very cool idea and it was executed perfectly. To my knowledge, that is the fastest solo glitchless speedrun of GGC. I tried it a couple times and got close but not close enough. I’m sure it’s still possible but I just don’t have the time or patience to do it lol. Thank you for replying so quickly, not just to me but to all of your viewers. It shows that you really care! :) I look forward to your next video this weekend, whatever it may be. Have a great day! :)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@williamgreens1541 Interesting! That's such a strange thing, I have no idea how it was found, or why the catch-up bonus carries over from one lobby to the next in this weird way. Definitely sounds like a very easy way to quickly get a good catch-up bonus, making Crime Spree more broken than it already is haha :p And I do try to reply to the comments as soon as I have some time :p interacting with the comments is the best part of sharing my content, because it would be a bit boring to upload content without getting any feedback! I'm very thankful for everyone's comments, so I definitely enjoy responding to them too! :) Glad you're looking forward to next weekend's video, thank you!!

Achievement unlocked: Those were the days

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Those were the days indeed! Good old days :)

Niceeee.As useful as always.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you saber! Good to know that this will be useful! :)

This guide has helped a ton, I bought legacy edition yesterday because I wanted all the DLC and when I saw a video on counterfeit full stealth I kept trying it and kept failing, now I’ve finally been able to actually do it. Wonderful video. Thank you

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that Bleuh! Pulling off this strategy should be way more convenient with this updated guide, so good luck with it, and let me know if you need anything! :)

@mrinin3442

4 жыл бұрын

ummm the game is going to go on sale on 13th of august, so two days later as of writing this... sorry

@Bleuhh_

4 жыл бұрын

Mrinin I’ve had the game for a while, just wanted all DLC, it was cheap where I live so I decided to pick it up. Thanks for letting me know though

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrinin3442 I'm expecting a sale in 2-3 days too! To celebrate PAYDAY 2's 7th anniversary, I think it's likely to happen. Has there been any official confirmation? I've been out of the loop for the last 4 days, working on this long video haha :D @Bleuh It was a good purchase for sure! I bought the game at full price because I couldn't wait for a sale, and it went on sale shortly after haha :p The legacy edition has so much content, that it's worth it even without a sale if you enjoy the game :D

"Sees body bag on top of the shelf" "huh"

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

"Huh" on repeat for 2-3 hours :p haha!

In a 2-hour game, the helicopter never came to the pool spawn, it should be emphasized that I think this is a bug in my game, I comment this so that if someone notices that while printing the helicopter never arrives at the spot of the pool, you'd better restart, and don't waste 2 hours like me. : c nice video btw

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Restorage! I've had runs where the helicopter shows up at the pool at the very first cycle, and other runs where it takes up to 1h30m (e.g., kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Cll8ipp5PJpNY.html ), or 1h45m -- so I wouldn't be surprised if sometimes you can get unlucky and need more than 2h! I don't think it's a bug, just very bad luck I think. If you get to that point, sometimes it's worth considering just escaping without securing the bags (if you need XP but no money) because 80% of the XP reward comes from just printing, regardless of wether the bags are secured or not, and with that much printing you'll probably get enough XP to reach level 100. Alternatively, there's a risky approach if you run out of patience or time (if you have to go to sleep, or stop playing, etc): for any of the bad helicopters, throw ALL the bags as close to the metal cage as possible and then run out to the unsafe zone. You have 10s until the neighbors call the police, then about 20s until the assault arrives. Secure your bags fast, and run for your life! Very risky though, I tried it with 55 bags in a 4-player lobby (used one ECM feedback when the assault started) and we just barely made it out alive. Definitely go for the patient approach if possible!

This is the greatest guide I've ever seen. Thank you very much!

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Berkcan! Have fun with this very unusual strategy, and if you need anything else, let me know! :)

@mrbliss1574

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb A quick question everything was going great then printing stopped after 2nd bag. Is it because of heli arrived ?

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrbliss1574 It's most likely because you removed the plates! After every bag printed, the game gives you a choice between restarting the machine (to print more) or removing the plates (to escape), so if you choose to remove the plates, there's no more printing!

This video it’s perfect 👌 I was gonna try it before this video drop and this is way better to understand. I used the drill and key card method log ago to get guards stuck in Big Oil and Framing Frame Lol. Thanks for the video because it makes it more easier to understand 💯👍

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that's the case Yadiel! I wanted to make an "updated" guide precisely to make it more clear, so I'm glad that you already find it easier to understand -- thank you! The loud drill + keycard trick is a great tool for stealth too, I use it for Train Heist sometimes :D

Also, i did this like twice and you can move the second guard bag a little bit back after the plant (from the left to the right) so he always move a little bit further, so you don't need to risk getting handcuffed or shot

@rev6884

4 жыл бұрын

Although it's kinda tricky, since you need to get the bag correctly

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Elrevolver206! I've seen many comments talking about placing the bag in a slightly different position to influence the position where the cop becomes stuck. However, as you can see in the section from 8:21 to 10:20, the risk of getting handcuffed or shot is non-existant when done properly, so I believe it's still better to learn how handcuff attempts work, since it's general knowledge that will be useful in any heist! :)

@rev6884

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb I agree, thanks anyways for posting the video and helping new players man!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@rev6884 No problem! Thank you for watching it, and for adding your helpful suggestions too! 👍

Another cool video! I can see myself playing this map next week all time until -30% exp :). It seems there is a zone in which if any cop fires, it triggers the alarm... In one round, a shield fired a few shots from far away, next to their spawn points but the alarm did not go off.. Also noticed that flame grenade rounds seem to have a very small detection radius and civs do not seem to care... I fired directly a few rounds in Mitchell's lot and nobody seemed to be alerted... So I wonder if flame rounds could be useful to deal with the shields? When they spawn, fire a few rounds to build a wall of flames and let the fire finish them off...

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bruce! Glad you liked the video, and have fun with the strategy! :) That is indeed a very good observation: in general, if the shields are very far from the safe zone, it doesn't matter if they shoot -- the alarm won't go off. However, as they get closer to the safe zone, there are many areas where their gunfire will trigger the alarm. As for the cops, since they are very close to the safe zone, any shots from them will trigger the alarm. Similarly, the fire alerts are also a good observation: molotovs don't trigger the "loud gunfire alarm" (and I guess it's the same for flame rounds, although I've never used them so I don't know how they work). So fire can be used to kill the shields, if you prefer that :) Here's my personal prefered approach to deal with the shields: kzread.info/dash/bejne/doeuudypldOenrA.html

Thank you for guide sir. I try to stealth this many times and didnt get it why, after you explain the safe zone and many more, i need to try this now. Thank again

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Dynasty! Glad you enjoyed the guide, and if you need any further help, don't hesitate to ask! :)

nice guide men really i love it and lot of details make it very easier

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Madaji! At some points I was worried that I was adding too much detail, so I'm glad to know that these are helpful. Glad you liked the guide! :)

Props to the brave soul who shot the window in Wilson’s kitchen! I would have never figured this out because I always assumed that all glass triggers alarm, but like the glass door in car shop, there’s always an exception (maybe due to lazy coding). On a side not, the first strategy that Marc featured may be too overwhelming or stressful for beginners to this exploit, so I’ll offer an alternative: lure Mitchell to the basement and kill only him and the girl next to the stairwell! If you’re quick, you can place the body bags without alerting any of the civilians. But this prompts the question: How do you deal with the second cop when his pathing is undesirable? Simple. Kite the cop (move him) as seen in the video, enough so that he is at the border of the shadow of the wall, which will place the priority of the body bag higher than the civilians. This way, the cop is moved into position immediately and the civilians can be dealt with after the cops are dealt with, making it much less stressful for the player. As a suggestion, I highly recommend you use the R93 with a low detection shotgun, or my personal favorite, a Desert Fox with a Saw, both loadouts using team boosts on the weapons for a 6% Xp. In the former instance, one can boost bodies with the shotgun. In the latter instance, one can open the gates in the sewers instantly, which is *very* skill point efficient (up to 18 points saved!). In both instances, one can solely kite either cop safely _AND_ kill the game ending shields. Anyways that’s my notes for this video. Thanks for listening to my TEDtalk.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

It may be lazy coding yeah, or spaghetti code... it's very strange that some windows trigger the alarm when broken, while other identical windows that are often very close can be broken without triggering the alarm. No idea what the cause may be, from a level-design/code point of view. I like this simplified strategy that you suggest. I tried making it popular a few months ago (kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6J7uc6foamshbQ.html) but unfortunately not many players liked it. I think it's because, in general, people still weren't used to this idea of "moving alerted cops", and even the handcuff mechanic is often ignored by many players... As a personal note, I don't like low-concealment shotguns because they are not the Locomotive 12G :p but I do use the Desertfox when I want to lower my concealment, and I use Team Boosts on all my weapons! Very useful for everyone else in the lobby :) Quick question: when you mention 18 points saved, what are you comparing it to? Other than this small detail, every suggestion is very clear, and very nice!

@M3L0618

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Ah, the 18 points referring to the Swan Song Aced and Feign Death Aced, each costing 9 points each. But that's still a miss calculation, you need at least 3 points to access those Tier 3 skills so you would be saving 21 skill points instead of 18 if you were to bring the saw and the Desertfox. _I really like being skill point efficient_

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@M3L0618 Ah I see, now that makes a lot more sense! I didn't see where the 18 was coming from :) 12 points for Swan Song (quite useful just for safety :p) and 9 more if you also want Feign Death, even though it's quite unreliable so definitely not needed. I do have to say however, that Counterfeit is the one heist where I don't worry about skill point efficiency, because it's generally played at levels 20-40 (rather than 100) with the purpose of farming XP, so optimized builds are generally uncommon! (and also because standard builds are never used here, e.g., no ECM skills, no camera loop, no enhanced lockpicking, no trip mines, no drill skills required even though they make it slightly faster...) For this reason, I just recommend the essentials (Transporter, Cleaner, generally also Jack of all trades and Parkour), and the rest are unusual skills that I recommend to make the escape as reliable as possible, because it would be awful to fail the heist after a 2-hour printing session! For example, the saw is very nice (in fact, I recommend it in the Steam guide at several points), but even if you skip the 5-second crowbar interaction, the door still needs to slowly open, which blocks you for 1.5~2 seconds, so I still recommend Swan Song just in case! Very good to get some distance from the bulldozers, before you finally escape using Stockholm Syndrome (in a worst case scenario, of course. I always consider the worst possible situation because the escape has to be 100% reliable!).

This is quality, i NEVER wouldve figured this out myself. How come for the 2nd position at 22:00 ish you need 2 bags however? Wouldnt it be possible to just move the bag to the top of the other cabinet from there?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey just some garage! Thank you for the high praise, much appreciated! As for your question, that's indeed a very good question! The thing is, whenever a cop is stuck looking at a body bag, if you remove it and try placing it again, the cop will ignore it, as he has already seen it before. Thus, in any situation where removing the original body bag is required, you always need a backup that he hasn't seen yet :p very interesting stuff!

@justsomegarage

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb ahhhh makes sense Thanks man!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@justsomegarage You're welcome! Very good question, so thank you for asking haha :D

This is the best payday 2 video ever seen. I really want to try payday2 once more.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Someone! I really like this strategy because it uses intended mechanics in completely unintended ways, creating gameplay that still feels like the same game, but is completely unique and refreshing. If you want to try this yourself however, do keep in mind that the body bag placements have changed slightly since a couple patches ago: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJimk6xyn9WeY6Q.html , and also the stealth printing part has sadly been removed, so even though you can fully stealth the heist, stealth printing is no longer possible :( It was too powerful for XP farming, sadly!

amazing video, keep up the good work

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Maruhai! Glad you liked it, and I'll do my best to keep it up! :)

newest patch for payday 2 "Fixed an exploit on Counterfeit where the cops could be manipulated with loot bags." looks like this may be dead in the water....

@ttga

3 жыл бұрын

Rip counterfeit stealth

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hey basedstem, thank you for your concern! First of all, sorry for the delayed response! I've been very busy with work lately, and on top of that trying to edit a video regarding this change (video will be published today, so stay tuned for more details!). It does seem like the devs have finally decided to patch this strategy. The patch notes clearly label this "body bag approach" as an exploit, although there haven't been any changes made to the stealth mechanics in general, so the strategy itself still works. Plus, *it was very hard to make a thorough fix on their first attempt (they should've contacted me!), so there are a few body bag placements that still allow the same strategy to be used.* Video explaining the changes, and alternative approaches, coming up this evening!

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@ttga RIP indeed... as of now, no one knows what the future holds for this heist in stealth :( PS. Strategy still works though, stay tuned for a new upload this evening! (check my previous reply on this same comment)

@borkbruh4524

3 жыл бұрын

NOT FOR XBOX

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@borkbruh4524 Very true, Bork Bruh! The whole thing still works perfectly for console versions. Enjoy it!! :D

I remember when my teamm8 didnt pick up the crowbar and basment exploded with very stealthy explosion. Hmmm yes they have a party with firecrakers

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Poland! That happens sometimes yeah, when playing with a crew you definitely have to coordinate the entrance to the basement :p The best part is that, as you say, even if the pool blows up, nobody reacts to it for some reason, they don't notice the explosion. Sadly the printing machine breaks with the explosion :(

this is a great video and I fucking love it. Very good video, very descriptive, very cool, very nice. All around well done on the fucking video lad keep it up

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Harrison! Very nice and kind feedback, much appreciated! Glad that the details will be useful, and I'll do my best to keep it up! :)

Hei i Just wanted to say that little Ring that Shows how Long the Text stays in the Screen is freaking awesome!!!

@Marcmb

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Timo! Glad you liked that, I appreciate it :D

İ think 2nd strategy is better if you have john wich dlc, i use desertfox sniper and go as low as 10 in detection so i dont need to worry about cop outside while taking ink or paper from wilson's shack

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Umut! The problem mentioned at 17:44 is actually recorded at 3 concealment (you can see at the bottom right my loadout is CAR-4 + Locomotive 12G, so 3 concealment), and this problem happens with the default and alternative body bag placements. However, as I also mention, many times it doesn't happen, especially if you move fast every time you have to go to the shed, so it's just a small risk that is always present unless you move the cop into the kitchen :)

Ive been trying this since this vid came out. Im so fricking bad at this idk why lol

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Scarlett! Since the video shows the whole process step by step, if you give me a timestamp of the step that's giving you problems I can help you out or give you additional tips :)

Love the content keep it up 👍

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Cammy! Glad that you're loving it, and I'll do my best to keep it up! :)

Thanks again for the in depth guide! This still works on the console edition 😂 My friend and I just want a quick and easy way to infamy on there so this helps a lot

@Marcmb

2 ай бұрын

You're absolutely welcome FrostCutter! Glad you're enjoying this on console :)

Update 200 has nerfed this. There's now an invisible wall above the counters in the kitchen, although the bag can still be placed on the wall for the second cop.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly correct, Ryan! Apparently they added a huge invisible wall in Wilson's kitchen, preventing it from being used for this strategy. Luckily, there are still a few approaches that work, so stay tuned for my new upload this evening! I'm expecting it to be ready by 17 or 18:00 CET! (roughly 3-4 hours from now)

@ryansainsbury2038

3 жыл бұрын

Always excited for your uploads Marc. Your guides are real useful. Have 800 hours in this game and you still are able to teach things I've never known.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryansainsbury2038 Thanks a lot Ryan! I'm glad that, as a PAYDAY veteran, you're enjoying the content, and even learning a few new things -- that's the best I could ask for, so thank you! :D

Cop spots body bag: Guess I’ll wait for eternity

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Cop: Guess that's my job now. Oh well.

Even though i dont need levels or XP, this is an amazing tutorial and so fun to try. Best part is you can do it at Level 0 with the right luck and build. I will definitely use this to grind my friends to level 100 easily

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hey UndoneCorruption! It's definitely a great way to get to level 100 easily; glad the tutorial was useful! Very importantly though, make sure your friends are at least level 20 before starting this heist (maybe complete any other heist for a stealth bonus beforehand), otherwise they will have a -20% XP penalty! :)

Cool guide marc thanks me and my friends where trying to do this it took us like 20ish trys

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Where's_all_the_pie! Very glad to hear you and your friends are enjoying this strategy, and congratulations on pulling it off after some tries, well done! :D

I spend around 3 hours attempting this until I got to the part when you blow up the safe and I realice its patched xD

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, that's a shame, there's a new loud trigger which causes the assault to begin as soon as the safe is blown open :( Everything up to that point still applies, so you can stealth the full heist and quickly escape to the sewers before the assault arrives, but the stealth printing (which was the cool part) has been removed. I'll be making one final video for Counterfeit stealth post-U201 soon, but I first want to get in touch with OVERKILL to ask about whether the parts of the strategy that remain are here to stay, or will be fixed in an upcoming update.

@chinossynthesizer705

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it works better on ps4 but ps4 has a crime wave glitch where you can get like 1000 easily

What shotgun did you use and what modifications did you use?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey TSN! Good question. I wanted to add a section in the video with my loadout and mods, but it was getting quite long! *Shotgun: Locomotive 12G.* List of mods: · BARREL EXT: The Silent Killer Supressor. · GADGET: LED Combo. (if you don't have enough concealment, you can switch this one for a Compact Laser Module -- or just remove the gadget) · GRIP: Straight Grip. · MAGAZINE: Extended Magazine. · STOCK: Tactical Shorty Stock. Everything else is empty (except for boost and ammunition, which have no effect on the appearance. I use Team Boost and 000 Buckshot). Also, my weapon skin is the new "Crypto" color that was obtained from the now removed LockeBreacher puzzle -- the settings I chose for the color are Paint Scheme: Inverted; Wear: Mint-Condition; Pattern Scale: Medium!

The dedication in this video wow

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you CasualALT! :)

thank you man, i am having fun with my friends with this

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome John! Happy to hear that :) Enjoy this very unusual strategy, and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

Cop sees a body bag on the closet. *ah, mhm, aah, aa-ah, mh, mh?*

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

_That's a very suspicious bag! What is it doing up there?_ _Huh? Hmmm... Uh! Huh?_

Payday 2: *has money printing campaign* Player: *Use a money printing campaign to infinitely receive currency and resource*

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! And it's really fun, and very unique compared to the other heists :D

A follow up video to the video that introduced me to the channel. Love it. I'm yet to complete this heist on dsod

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey James! Glad that you saw the original, and also liked seeing this one, thank you! :) Good luck when you try it on DSOD, with this updated guide it should be much easier!

@jamesreynolds3167

4 жыл бұрын

As a practice, I did it on normal with great success. I think I have gotten better at moving bodies at the start

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesreynolds3167 That's good! Also good to know that you can feel how you're getting better at the civ clean-up step :) If you have done it on Normal difficulty, I definitely recommend trying it out on DSOD! The cop timings, and amount of civs, will be the same, so I'm confident you will succeed!

Even having 400hrs, i'm completely lost on mechanics, lol This explained and solved a lot of misconceptions. Great content Succed after few tries but i still ned to be faster to put the bodybags and hiding all corpses

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Haha no worries Lenin! Some of these mechanics are very very cheesy, so it's understandable to not be an expert regarding those mechanics :p I'm glad this video was able to clear up some misconceptions, and congratulations on pulling it off already! The more you get used to the process, the easier it becomes, and the faster you can do that civilian clean-up step :)

imagine this bug being in the game for 7 years, and after 7 years you spend like tons of hours to explain this to the public, how to use it, just to have to patched out after 3 months. RIP Counterfeit stealth (for now)

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

RIP indeed, for now! Luckily (as I mentioned in my response in the Community post) there's still some approaches that work, so it's hard to say what will happen to this strategy in the future!

What mask are you wearing in the video, i love it

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Noah! Glad you like the mask, thank you :) The mask name is "The Jaw", but I customized it so long ago, that I have no idea what the customization options are! If you want to take a closer look, to try and replicate it, you can see a better view of it at the start of my stealth build video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWSgtcytk72-f5s.html

@noahspam9246

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Thank you, will do

Since I’m just getting I to this game it’s nice to see a video guide that is not a couple years old

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Good to hear that Flash, thank you! I have some guides for other stealth heists too, so hopefully my content will be helpful! :)

Thanks for this video! It took my group and I a few tries (5 hours yesterday, 2 restarts today) but we made it. A tip though: be careful about putting bags under the basket landing! I saw some comments that it put it away, so we tried it. It sent bags FLYING across the map and alerted the outside cop, which lost us 3 hours and 130 bags of loot.

@snek9320

4 жыл бұрын

RIP Your time :)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey kirkfan2255! Congratulations on pulling it off! Hope you and your crew enjoyed the strategy :) Placing the bags under the spawn for the metal cage is quite tempting, because it sounds very efficient IF IT WORKED! It was tested in the past, and indeed the result is that the bags are sent flying everywhere :D That's why in the video I recommended stashing all your bags relatively close the metal cage spawn, and securing them when the helicopter arrives :p Hope you still managed to escape after the heist went downhill! Printing gives a decent amount of experience (even if you can't secure them), so you could still get something out of your time!

Are u sure every hose's spawn point has 25% chance? Because everytime I play this heist ~50% the hose spawns outside the safe zone xd. NGL, this is true story. This guide is Dallas/Medic Bag, Don Ac Dum

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I'm quite sure that the chance is 25% ! But since it's the only one that's unusable, it probably feels a lot more common, simply because it's the one everyone remembers :p

How do you even find stuff like this?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, good question Enio! I guess dedication, and also a bit of interest in breaking the game for sure! Hahah :p

It's good to still see people upload payday now :)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

For sure! There are a few unexplored things that I still like to do, and since people have been requesting it I've also been doing videos with basic+advanced stealth tips for different heists :) Glad you're enjoying the content, Khanjalli!

Interesting, might try this guide today

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Have fun with it, Water Doggo! It's a very unusual strategy, for sure :p If you need help with anything, let me know!

Any specific skills or equipment that could help out?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Suni! Transporter BASIC is required to throw the body bags in place, and Cleaner ACE is required if playing solo, to have enough body bags. As I mention in the "Escape" section (25:16), some good options are _Swan Song_ (12 points), _Feign Death_ (9 points), and _Stockholm Syndrome_ (12 points). The rest of the skills are completely optional, personal preference: _Jack of all trades_ for 2 deployables, _Parkour_ for movement speed... Other than that, make sure you bring a sniper rifle for the shields! R93, Platypus, or Desert Fox. In my shields video, I use the former, but the other two have the same damage and essentially the same functionality, while not requiring an achievement to unlock the silencer. The Platypus is also the only one that doesn't require DLC to be used.

@mauer1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb I take that fucking huge one, with the 3k damage. Though yeah to be fair, the archivement for the silencer could be a little bit tidious.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@mauer1 You mean the Thanatos? Seems a bit overkill for a few shields haha, but it is very satisfying to use :) Personally I use the R93, but it requires an achievement for the silencer, so the Desertfox is a good alternative, or the Platypus for those without DLC.

@AcriaxOnPSN

4 жыл бұрын

if you use graze on the shields it can take them out very quickly, although it takes precise shots on both spawns

@Leon_Ryu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb If I'm not mistaken, you forgot Body Bag skills. There are at least 5 (I think?) civvies to bag, so more body bags are required via skills or deployables, especially if playing solo.

Me watches this while i dont even play it: ah yes tactics.

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Davin! Glad you somehow found this video, even though you don't even play! I hope it was entertaining :) thanks for watching!

@davinrort2nd

3 жыл бұрын

I was making an epic joke

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@davinrort2nd A play on words? A meme? Sorry for asking but I feel a bit out-of-the-loop here :p whoops!

Excellent work, especially in noticing that bizzare kitchen civilian alert trigger. I believe that's a stump of leftover scripting from payday: the heist, though I'm not positive.

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Discendo! Glad you liked this compilation of facts about stealth in Counterfeit :) I have no idea where that civilian trigger came from (within the code, I mean), but it's definitely very misleading -- it doesn't really make sense that they become alerted, and Bain using the wrong voice line makes it even worse!

thanks for this video, I've just known how to do stealth way to complete counterfeit. Keep up the great work! More guides. Greetings from Russia=)

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot XOJIMC! Glad you're enjoying the content, and this video too :) I'll do my best to keep it up, and make more useful guides, so thank you for enjoying them! :D

0:14 It "kinda" relies on RNG, cuz "Bad hose", but you can just check it out right at the start, and restart if needed. 2:53 Sangres ffs, I know you're thirsty for blood, but THIS IS NOT THE TIME! 10:44 Haha Highlight mod go brrrrrrrr 16:26 Huh? Uh, whatever. What? I think it's nothing. Emmm? Well, I guess it was just my imagination! 19:34 Hey, look who's that! That's right, Hey, VSauce here! 20:08 Didn't know that lol 22:58 What, you want me to open the window? Okay *pulls shotgun out(silenced ofc), shoots window, window is now open*

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

· That's true, the RNG spawn is RNG but the strategy itself doesn't rely on RNG -- usually what players mean with the term "RNG reliance" is that the strategy may fail at any point in the middle of an attempt due to bad RNG :p · Yeah the bots are so dumb... I felt bad just recording that clip... · No mods!! Check the guide!! >:( hahaha · Must've been the wind! · Can't see him through the door! · Yeah it's very silly, but it also worries me when I hear it because it sounds like another cop car is coming :p · 1000% faster window opening speed!

@snek9320

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb The VSauce thingy was me joking about me being in the clip :D

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@snek9320 Oooh I see! I haven't seen many of his videos (sorry!) so I didn't understand if there was some specific reference :p

What mods do you use for your HUD?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Allen! My HUD mods are a combination of _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers._ The former is responsible for the ECM timers, as well as the floating timers for drills, time locks, hacks, pagers... (whenever they are present). It also includes other on-screen numbers such as: FPS meter, IRL clock, levels right next to player names, and some numbers for each player which are "Kills | Jokered enemies | Current downs | Maximum downs (before custody)". As for the latter, _Additional PocoHud trackers,_ I mainly use it for the 3.5s countdown before Sixth sense triggers, but it will also show you trackers for all kinds of things (any skill which has a duration or cooldown). Both are highly customizable so everything can be toggled on and off, depending on what you want!

@allenm9

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Ah ok, thank you for the reply! Where do I download these?

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@allenm9 You're welcome! Here are the download links. If you need help with install instructions, let me know! · You can get the "latest version" (it's a bit old, but still works) of PocoHud3 here: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/1457328846183663967/ · Link to Additional PocoHud trackers here: modworkshop.net/mod/26167 · If you have never used mods, you also need SuperBLT. Link to SuperBLT, with install instructions: superblt.znix.xyz/

@allenm9

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Thanks a bunch! Keep up the great videos!

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@allenm9 You're welcome! I'll do my best to keep it up -- glad you're enjoying the content! :)

I love how you put the body bag on top of the highest shelf so that the cop couldn't reach it omg

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Haha exactly! It was a very fun discovery. Back when I did my first test, I didn't expect it to work this well, but the poor cop just stands there forever, because it's too high for him to reach :p

You're incredible man, responding to new comments on a 2 year old video.

@Marcmb

Жыл бұрын

Thank you jax! I do check all the new comments whenever I have time :D

RIP :(

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

Hey AcTive! Still working for now, thankfully! Stay tuned for my next upload later today -- I'm expecting it to be ready by 17 or 18:00 CET! (roughly 3-4 hours from now)

@AcTiveKF

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb Hey thank you for replying i will wait patiently for the upcomming vid :)

@Marcmb

3 жыл бұрын

@@AcTiveKF You're welcome! Video is about to go live in 11 minutes, hopefully it will be clear and helpful! :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJimk6xyn9WeY6Q.html

if anyone on ps4 wants to do this on ps4 ive done it solo im good at it just hmu 36k crime spree too

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Upvoting and hearting this comment to point out that I completely allow players to use the comments section to find heisters for this strategy! Have fun with it :)

@hempfiend6796

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb thanks man please continue making videos your very underrated

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@hempfiend6796 I will continue, for sure! Thanks for watching the content, and glad that you're enjoying it! :)

@hempfiend6796

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marcmb do you mind saying the scope of the sniper to kill the shields with the main scope

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

@@hempfiend6796 Sure thing! Here's my full list of mods for the R93: · BARREL: Compensated Supressor. Loud gunfire in this heist (from your or anyone else) triggers the assault! · BOOST: Probably a "TEAM BOOST" for +3% extra EXP and money reward. · SIGHT: The "Acough Optic Scope" reduces weapon sway while aiming, slightly (crouching reduces it further). · GADGET: The "Riktpunkt 45 Degree Sight" completely removes weapon sway when used (press Q to switch from regular sight to rotated sight).

Good to see that the payday 2 community is still alive

@Marcmb

4 жыл бұрын

Hey DropZ! It absolutely is, yeah! :D More than 30k players online every day, and with the 7th anniversary of PAYDAY2 coming up in 3 days, I expect a big sale, and great things for the game! Thank you for watching, and hope you enjoyed the video! :)

Loving the amount of sphagetti code that makes this even remotely possible lol. Especially the order of events needed to " move" a guard like it was furniture or something

@Marcmb

4 ай бұрын

Haha yup, glad you liked it! At first our strategy was falling apart because that guard was shooting players when they moved out to grab printing materials, so we had to learn a bit more about guard AI to find a way to move him to better spots :D