Paul Saladino Reacts To Dr. Peter Attia

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  • @oliver6287
    @oliver62872 ай бұрын

    Derek not being a yes man and knowing his stuff on someone else’s podcast is so refreshing, hope he starts posting regularly again 🎉

  • @pyeclam
    @pyeclam2 ай бұрын

    Respect to Derek for defending Peter when he's not here. People spread misinformation like this so easily.

  • @iamkamsai

    @iamkamsai

    2 ай бұрын

    all these different guys are turning on each other the last few weeks, this is the third one of seen 😂

  • @WideAwakeHuman

    @WideAwakeHuman

    2 ай бұрын

    Attia is arrogant and always 5yrs behind the most recent beneficial data because he thinks you can’t believe in something until there are 50 RCTs for it - like statins, eventually he’ll realize their mostly poison but it’ll take 10yrs.

  • @bestcocbaseswithlink5069

    @bestcocbaseswithlink5069

    2 ай бұрын

    @@iamkamsai who were the other two?

  • @weich1q2w

    @weich1q2w

    2 ай бұрын

    Except he didn't

  • @RealziesCuts

    @RealziesCuts

    2 ай бұрын

    Peter for President ✊🏆

  • @whiteglovepc
    @whiteglovepc2 ай бұрын

    Anyone else double check their playback speed when Paul was talking? 😂

  • @nseebs8976

    @nseebs8976

    2 ай бұрын

    I was just going to do that. It's honestly sort of wild how he speeds through certain parts of words.

  • @BobbyHill187

    @BobbyHill187

    15 күн бұрын

    A bunch of mumble jumble

  • @matthewreist6530
    @matthewreist65302 ай бұрын

    Paul keeping his shirt on for 8 min is mind blowing

  • @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah guys with no size tend to wanna be shirtless 24/7

  • @MG-me7iw

    @MG-me7iw

    2 ай бұрын

    @nattyfatty6.0 likes buff dudes. Noted, and I think that's beautiful.

  • @Bern1808
    @Bern18082 ай бұрын

    Saladino seems to like arguing against strawmen of his own creation .

  • @hatonafox5170

    @hatonafox5170

    Ай бұрын

    He absolutely is. Derek is catching him in it as he tries to push that strawman onto Peter Attia.

  • @JusticiarXP

    @JusticiarXP

    Ай бұрын

    Nobody’s “family doc who isn’t online” is telling them it’s ok to eat doughnuts. It’s absolutely straw men.

  • @sueme1954

    @sueme1954

    14 күн бұрын

    Not donuts that was a slight exaggeration for wheat products fiber and carbs. This is what doctors are pushing.​@@JusticiarXP

  • @Thriverockhc
    @Thriverockhc2 ай бұрын

    I am an internal medicine physician. It is not fair to generalize that all primary cares practice the same and dont talk to patients about a healthier lifestyle including diet/exercise/alcohol and smoking cessation. The majority of patients I have seen in primary care/ hospital setting don't want to change. I have had countless discussions with patients/families and bluntly told them of the consequences including heart attack, stroke, etc if they dont change their lifestyle. A person is not going to do a 180 and stop eating junk food to a carnivore, paleo or whatever diet. They have been eating poorly or not exercising their whole life and think "why change now". I offer them a slow transition such as cutting out processed foods. I have seen a younger population getting diseases, cancers and I do feel it is from our diet. More and more ultra processed foods causing inflammation and damage to our dna. People think artificial sweeteners are good but dont know the damage it does to the body including your gut. Besides diet I have patients that will not quit smoking or drinking alcohol despite them having lung disease, liver cirrhosis, etc. Paul seems to think its the medical communities fault for not educating patients which I disagree with. People have a choice and if they choose to not be healthy its on them. I got to the point of hating to go to the hospital, clinic for many reasons including poorly compliant patients, insurance companies trying to force me to prescribe drugs including statins (yes they do try), forcing me to see countless patients with very little time spent with the patient. I decided to open my own practice without dealing with insurance companies and seeing patients that care about their health and want to focus on longevity/preventative care. I offer them close routine follow up to see their progress. I do extensive baseline lab testing, imaging they need based on their personal history, VO2 max testing, nervous system testing. I dont stop their prescription meds but try to wean them off and add supplements that may help. I explain that its a slow process but they have to be willing to commit or they are just wasting their time and money. I have read Peter Attias book and agree with most of what he says but getting someone to actually do what is needed is challenging. The issue with these physicians including Paul is they havent seen patients in a regular clinic/hospital setting and should not judge the physicians who actually see these day to day patients. I am not defending all physicians because there are ones that honestly should not practice medicine. So much more I would like to say but ill leave it at that...

  • @dandastardly2792

    @dandastardly2792

    2 ай бұрын

    What studies should I look up to see the effect of artificial sweetness on humans?

  • @MDL.720

    @MDL.720

    2 ай бұрын

    I wish services like what you offer existed here in New Zealand

  • @rykerolaoghaire8781

    @rykerolaoghaire8781

    2 ай бұрын

    Well said! 🤝

  • @Thriverockhc

    @Thriverockhc

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@dandastardly2792 Pubmed. Search any topic

  • @DrMAlo

    @DrMAlo

    Ай бұрын

    I totally agree with you as a cardiologist. Literally, 99% of what we say is diet and exercise. As the cardiologist that debated Paul, I would say that he definitely is straw manning there.

  • @donkingdonkey4764
    @donkingdonkey47642 ай бұрын

    Attia says no one knows if mediterranean is better than blue zone diet so don’t worry about it if you’re eating Unprocessed Whole Foods, but definitely not eat crap bc nothing matters!

  • @frankgjr

    @frankgjr

    29 күн бұрын

    The Blue Zone diet stuff is crap. Fake News.

  • @andrewmilo1911
    @andrewmilo19112 ай бұрын

    I miss the old tren bedtime story Derek…

  • @SaucySauceSSS
    @SaucySauceSSS2 ай бұрын

    Sam Sulek is hellbent on proving that diet is irrelevant as long as your diet also includes a daily “juice” cleanse 😂

  • @bobo-bx8yj

    @bobo-bx8yj

    2 ай бұрын

    Sam is a smart guy though I really doubt he won’t come around eventually and realise everything just functions better when you don’t eat like shit. Pretty sure he’s even said the next bulk he does is going to be more structured and he’s going to be eating more rice etc instead of refined sugar

  • @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    2 ай бұрын

    Everyone already knows that you can always "outjuice" a bad diet. They gotta eat entire boxes of cereal or w/e to not die from all the insulin they take

  • @SaucySauceSSS

    @SaucySauceSSS

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bobo-bx8yjhope so. I love Sam, hope he lives forever

  • @bobo-bx8yj

    @bobo-bx8yj

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SaucySauceSSS same he’s a legend

  • @CloudJ5

    @CloudJ5

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bobo-bx8yji wouldn’t call a guy who uses gear smart tbh, shortening you’re life isnt a smart thing to do

  • @stephend50
    @stephend502 ай бұрын

    No physician is saying "I don't know. " we tell them to move. We tell them to eat whole foods. We offer dieticians. And they don't listen.

  • @RemingtinArms

    @RemingtinArms

    2 ай бұрын

    This so much Nobody looks at your a1c or LDL and says "hmmm, 5.8 and 107, better start on metformin with a side of statins." We tell you to reduce processed and fried foods, to reduce candy consumption, and increase exercise, then we check back in 3 months and start you on stuff when you go up to 7.1 and 148. Forget exercise, most people are too lazy to even cook, and the non addictive nature of healthier foods means any restaurant venturing into that industry soon realizes they have to charge unloyal customers a premium to keep the lights on. Unlike other places that offer a decadent treat to have you coming back in a wheel barrow.

  • @Joseph-kp4rv

    @Joseph-kp4rv

    2 ай бұрын

    I've seen overweight friends' bloodwork (yes, multiple people) who go to different doctors. Rarely any seem to have a1c tested, some only given a basic metabolic panel, and some doctors who don't even care to test TSH. You might be going above and beyond for your patients, but rarely do I find doctors who are able to convey information to their patients in an easily digestible way that keeps them engaged. I don't think I've ever heard a doctor in my life say that I should walk after my meals for 10 minutes. There's a clear problem in medicine and people should know that it's basically the same as choosing a mechanic at this point.

  • @Joseph-kp4rv

    @Joseph-kp4rv

    2 ай бұрын

    @ConservativeMD1 While I'm in no way a medical professional, as someone who suffers from diabetes and Hashimoto's, I simply cannot understand how modern medicine can consider something as simple as an A1c screening as a waste of a test when 60% of our population is morbidly obese. If a single physician bothered to run these labs when I were 15 instead of in my 20's, my pancreas would be far less damaged. The health of your average American today is terrible. I also find it very unfortunate that doctor's will only give these tests to individuals who have a family history. It's an extremely privileged way of thinking as the majority of poor Americans have no idea who their grandparents were let alone their family history. At this point, especially after COVID, these tests should be standard of care for a far wider demographic of Americans. It's a shame that the best solution possible is to simply lie to your doctor and tell them you have a family history with all of the most common diseases you can think of, lol.

  • @KevinJDildonik

    @KevinJDildonik

    2 ай бұрын

    American healthcare is awful. But it's not a conspiracy. I worked in medical and let me tell you the secret: Insurance companies only pay for certain treatments. Your doctor did not say he wouldn't run a1c. Your doctor did not say he wouldn't run TSH. He said your insurance won't pay for it. I'm rich, so I have Marek Health do my bloodwork without insurance. I got Metformin and statins at 30 instead of waiting until those same numbers were suddenly catastrophic the moment I turn (insert age here) which is when insurance pays. Doctors prescribe what insurance pays for. If you have better insurance than your doctor is used to. Tell the lady in the front office to have a second read. But that's assuming you know your insurance. And odds are, like most Americans, you have no clue. Also many Americans have employer funded insurance. The "insurance" company is a TPL or Third Party Liability. Your boss is the one denying your health care. Not the doctor. Not the "insurance". Your boss said no to your treatment.

  • @KevinJDildonik

    @KevinJDildonik

    2 ай бұрын

    (Or TPA, Third Party Administrator, meaning your boss signs the form that says your hospital bill doesn't get covered.)

  • @DK-pr9ny
    @DK-pr9nyАй бұрын

    1. Diet 2. Sleep 3. Exercise 4. Don’t smoke 5. Manage stress

  • @blankx15

    @blankx15

    Ай бұрын

    Dont forget to take some sauce. Gotta spice that life from time to time.

  • @Ryan-pi7xo
    @Ryan-pi7xo2 ай бұрын

    Derek is the man. I like him standing his ground. Paul is a clown.

  • @jakejason4333

    @jakejason4333

    2 ай бұрын

    ah personal insults....the clear sign you have zero idea what you"re talking about :DD

  • @rondoespsych5901

    @rondoespsych5901

    2 ай бұрын

    Imagine seeing 2 ppl disagree about one aspect of a major topic and interpreting that as a some sort of fight and calling the other person a clown 😂 Paul is is highly informed about human health and nutrition and it would suit you to take his advice.

  • @flexluthor1691

    @flexluthor1691

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jakejason4333the irony of your post is hilarious

  • @relaxinstillness4189

    @relaxinstillness4189

    2 ай бұрын

    Sadly it seems that Atherosclerotic disease is ubiquitous with human life. Even mummified human remains show signs of ASCVD back before it could be blamed upon processed food, IR and a consequence of modern lifestyle. It really can’t be disputed that ApoB is causally linked to ASCVD. There are other non modifiable risk factors for endothelial damage that we all likely accumulate in life. Reducing ApoB is clinically proven to halt or even start to reverse ASCVD if the reduction is aggressive enough. I’m not saying that decision doesn’t have to be balanced with weighing up the negative side of lipid lowering therapy, but I think in most, the benefits likely outweigh the risks.

  • @thevantran148

    @thevantran148

    2 ай бұрын

    why? I read his book it was decent. but better eat meat than processed foods

  • @alfredwotanson7971
    @alfredwotanson7971Ай бұрын

    Derek handled this like a true Chad. He didn't disrespect Paul but also didn't let Paul misrepresent Peter. I guess you could say he didn't rob Peter to pay Paul 😂

  • @BrofUJu
    @BrofUJu2 ай бұрын

    Who is saying go eat donuts if you want to lose weight? Such a straw man argument.

  • @me0w_me0w

    @me0w_me0w

    2 ай бұрын

    there are a lot of idiots on social media saying eat what you want as long as you are in a caloric deficit

  • @wolololer

    @wolololer

    Ай бұрын

    @@me0w_me0w Yes, but that is not what Peter claims, this is the definition of straw man. And btw i am kind of one of tose idiots, ofc i dont promote shit food and processed food, but i rly believe if u exercize alot u will lose weight, even if u keep eating like an hyppo, Even if that happens because u are not able to eat like an hyppo

  • @r1s1nggodz1lla

    @r1s1nggodz1lla

    Ай бұрын

    @@wolololerif you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight. It’s really just a balance between calorie intake and calorie consumption.

  • @MisterCovek

    @MisterCovek

    Ай бұрын

    Anyone who says "it's just calories in vs calories out".

  • @BrofUJu

    @BrofUJu

    Ай бұрын

    @@MisterCovek which it kind of is, but donuts are a horrible idea since they're insanely calorie dense and not satiating

  • @jusres
    @jusres2 ай бұрын

    Really pleased to see so many comments from people not buying Paul’s bs.

  • @Jimminityjabooboo
    @Jimminityjabooboo2 ай бұрын

    The fact that He cant even counter Derek here on a basic claim is telling.

  • @weich1q2w

    @weich1q2w

    2 ай бұрын

    Except he did

  • @TheFinemesh

    @TheFinemesh

    2 ай бұрын

    @@weich1q2w how so?

  • @jthymesthree602

    @jthymesthree602

    2 ай бұрын

    @@weich1q2wExcept he didn’t

  • @marley720
    @marley7202 ай бұрын

    I feel like Paul didnt say anything useful

  • @mrjjman2010

    @mrjjman2010

    2 ай бұрын

    He never has. He’s an L Ron Hubbard of fitness. Lots of nutty nonsense that never pans out and is only listened to by idiots that also look like crap and aren’t especially fit, like him. 😂😂

  • @DILFDylF

    @DILFDylF

    2 ай бұрын

    That's kind of his M.O.

  • @privtprofile24

    @privtprofile24

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@DILFDylF Thats his whole schtick

  • @ajacks8894

    @ajacks8894

    2 ай бұрын

    Charlatan

  • @theswingmechanic

    @theswingmechanic

    Ай бұрын

    He doesn’t know what to do now because he’s changed his tune so many times. He’s starting to feel stupid. As he should.

  • @h3l1x23
    @h3l1x232 ай бұрын

    Peter Attia literally wrote in his book Outlive, “what we eat and how we metabolize it appears to play an outsize role in longevity”. So Paul is wrong in saying that Peter doesn’t seem to care about diet.

  • @SaucySauceSSS
    @SaucySauceSSS2 ай бұрын

    Derek has been educating doctors for years on matters of general medicine. In some cases, they’ve disagreed with him, like Saladino with the carnivore diet, and Derek remained patient, and years later they came back and admitted he was right… The gym bro, with no medical degree. Granted, he’s an absolute monster of self education, but that’s the point. He was frustrated with how unhelpful the medical system that was available to him was, so he decided to take matters in to his own hands. If this dude isn’t an inspiration to you, I don’t know how to help you.

  • @genzprepper1464

    @genzprepper1464

    2 ай бұрын

    Paul said he was wrong about something?

  • @malcolmjelani3588

    @malcolmjelani3588

    2 ай бұрын

    Gary Null

  • @stephend50

    @stephend50

    2 ай бұрын

    Um, the AHA and the ADA aren't telling people to eat a carnivore diet. To point at an outlier and ignore standard of care is disingenuous

  • @black9897

    @black9897

    2 ай бұрын

    What are you talking about ?

  • @WideAwakeHuman

    @WideAwakeHuman

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genzprepper1464yeah he was wrong about veganism and then wrong about carnivore and now he’s meat, fruit, honey and dairy- he’s admitted he’s wrong about quite a bit

  • @carlcypher
    @carlcypher2 ай бұрын

    Saladino is hooked on the narcissism of small differences.

  • @MarkHarrison4
    @MarkHarrison42 ай бұрын

    The difference between Paul and Peter is that Peter forms opinions based on Science, Paul bases opinion on what he believes.

  • @TheMrRelic

    @TheMrRelic

    13 күн бұрын

    Considering the science on cholesterol is not free from obvious bias and gross conflicts of interest, it’s hard to say that attia doesn’t also base his opinions on what he believes. Pointing to flawed studies doesn’t make it more scientific. I’m a consumer of attia’s content, including his book. I have a lot of respect for his intellect and guidance, but he’s misled on the cholesterol front. Such as his opinion of lowering ldl / ApoB as much as possible. There’s no lRCT showing that pharmacologically lowering cholesterol long term isn’t causing more harm than the cholesterol. Looking to mandolin randomizations of cholesterol levels across a population as evidence for using statins, is not science. It’s confirmation bias.

  • @kiely4561
    @kiely45612 ай бұрын

    Derek is so polite even when he’s arguing a different perspective 😂

  • @orcanimal
    @orcanimal2 ай бұрын

    Paul Saldino talks boldly and aggressively about how his nutrition is the best, when just a couple of years ago he was super anti all plants including fruits nobody could tell him different, then suddenly he changed his tune and started eating a ton of fruit... now, you might say, well, he changed his mind based on evidence, that's a good thing, right? And to that I'd say, yeah, normally it would be, the problem is that the evidence was already there when he was preaching against fruit too... and he was hyper agressive about it... just as he was barely a year into carnivore himself... then he started feeling bad and realized he also needed fruit, which would be fine, if he wasn't so agressively against it right off the bat without at least waiting a few years into his diet to see if he should be as agressive as he was. Rushing into experimental diets and mocking everyone who doesn't follow doesn't make you seem like a well balanced scientist... especially when you're forced to change the diet 2 years in because you didn't realize those things you were mocking were actually necessary...

  • @sithounetsith9877

    @sithounetsith9877

    2 ай бұрын

    There is nothing experimental my dude about eating raw meat, cooked meat , that is how non slaves like you and me eat in natural tribes . It is not because you have not seen natural humans , that they don't eat 90% of meat only . And natural humans don't do gym and probably much healthier that any gym dude taking drugs lowering his life span by half.

  • @TheUpTownFan

    @TheUpTownFan

    2 ай бұрын

    People’s opinions can change. Carnivore is effective in eliminating auto-immune issues.. he’s said anecdotally that it cured his eczema. He jumped the gun on thinking it was optimal. I don’t think his previous recommendations should discredit him. You live and learn.

  • @edgeygamer719
    @edgeygamer7192 ай бұрын

    All the doctors I’ve seen throughout my life tell me to eat a healthy balanced diet. That’s it, all these health marker extremes is just acoustic health folks.

  • @elingrome5853

    @elingrome5853

    2 ай бұрын

    “Balanced” like the food pyramid?

  • @LeroyJenkins-fq2ko
    @LeroyJenkins-fq2ko2 ай бұрын

    Paul is a bit of a clown with how he cherry picks ingredients in foods that might be problematic in huge doses, then rants about how bad the food is but fails to mention it's impossible to eat the amount needed for an issue to occur.

  • @MikeKayK

    @MikeKayK

    2 ай бұрын

    A little bit of a problematic ingredient here, a little bit there, a little more over there, a little bit of toxic chemicals in each of your hygiene products, a little bit in your household cleaners, a little bit here, plus a little bit there, plus a little bit over there, plus a little more there. Nah, you're TOTALLY fine, it's just a little bit! We are fatter, physically and mentally sicker, and more hormonally disregulated than ever before but hey, it's just a "little bit" of toxins, so that can't be affecting us right?!

  • @emperorpalpatine9841

    @emperorpalpatine9841

    2 ай бұрын

    Ever heard of hormesis?

  • @thelastsigmamale

    @thelastsigmamale

    Ай бұрын

    ⁠@@MikeKayKhas it ever occured to you that maybe, just maybe, the reason people are fatter than ever is because they are moving less than ever and eating more calories than ever? The cherry picked ingredients that this clown fearmongers are usually in doses thousands of times smaller than what is needed to cause any serious issue, so no it doesn’t add up.

  • @garudapurachess
    @garudapurachess2 ай бұрын

    Paul Saladino, the master of nitpicking data, fear mongering & strawman arguments

  • @calnoble4651
    @calnoble46512 ай бұрын

    Way to step in Derrick. Attia talks diet. The exact diet parameters may be slightly unknown from a specifics perspective but generally eating better food and dropping weight can significantly improve cardio health. Then the seed oil controversy is up in the air. The randomized control trials point to benefits.

  • @tangorealauditnz7706

    @tangorealauditnz7706

    2 ай бұрын

    Seed oils poison

  • @Acularis

    @Acularis

    2 ай бұрын

    The randomized control trials show they're a detriment, Paul did a video response to them.

  • @davidflorez1196

    @davidflorez1196

    Ай бұрын

    ​​​@@windexbleach2205you can cook with avocado oil, olive oil in low temperatures, be omnivore without process foods, sugars, excess, and have a healthy metabolically diet we can agree in that right? But Saladino would tell that's a BS diet because he only eats raw meat and butter and everything else is wrong, thats the point the guy think only his way is the correct path and it's not

  • @thelastsigmamale

    @thelastsigmamale

    Ай бұрын

    @@tangorealauditnz7706based on what data?? Or did you just pull that out of thin air and claim it as fact? 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @thelastsigmamale

    @thelastsigmamale

    Ай бұрын

    @@Acularissend a link of the RCT you’re reffering to

  • @MichaelHorstmann
    @MichaelHorstmann2 ай бұрын

    Derek is a great interviewer

  • @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    2 ай бұрын

    He can manage to put up with Salad's BS, which is way more than I would've been capable of. I admire his patience

  • @joel-oquendo
    @joel-oquendo2 ай бұрын

    Dr. Mike is the general doctor you're talking about

  • @Matt-zg8os
    @Matt-zg8os2 ай бұрын

    Paul doesn't sound convincing, imo.

  • @user-fk8rb8ue5h
    @user-fk8rb8ue5h2 ай бұрын

    If Saladino told me what day it was I would go and check it out for myself. The man is a dangerous liar.

  • @BukunmiOlaonipekun-wi6be
    @BukunmiOlaonipekun-wi6be2 ай бұрын

    Derek you said you’ll post Stan’s interview. I’ve been stalking your page ever since!! I look up to the both of you!! Really can’t wait

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley2 ай бұрын

    There's nobody on the planet who doesn't know you can not out exercise a bad diet.

  • @Acekorv

    @Acekorv

    Ай бұрын

    The majority think that still, the people that aren’t into nutrition and working out.

  • @andremororo-fisher3096
    @andremororo-fisher30962 ай бұрын

    Where is this full podcast?

  • @Atifxx
    @Atifxx2 ай бұрын

    Paul tends to think "I'm right and everyone is wrong and I'm going to only look at half the data" until he personally makes a change in his diet and sees a change in outcomes. Even when presented with data from the other side he just repeats the same points and the discussion goes nowhere. He used to rant about how evil carbs are until he introduced honey and fruit into his diet and saw the benefits. Someone just needs to convince him to drink some vegetable oil and he'll probably end up sitting somewhere in the middle ground with his views. Props to Derek for defending Peter when he wasn't there to respond.

  • @hairyjohnson2597
    @hairyjohnson25972 ай бұрын

    If anyone could answers I’d appreciate it. I’m 33 years old, I haven’t done weight training since high school football. I’m 6’2-6’3 242 as of this morning. I started lifting about 2 months ago. I’ve been following the dr. Regiment for hypertrophy the best I can. Well the main question is, my coworker, who is an experienced power lifter and training buddy does gear and he has suggested it for me multiple times. I have been considering a test only 250 mg cycle for 10 weeks along with the supplement that keeps your test active along with the supplement to keep my estrogen in check. Should I wait another 6 months to a year to get my muscles adjusted to gaining mass and try to maximize my “natural” gains as much as possible, or is it fine to hop on because the dosage level is so low it’s basically an athletic trt dose. My idea was 200-250 for 10-12 weeks then 50-100 for 6-8 weeks, then a 6-8 week at 400. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

  • @toxikdank9669

    @toxikdank9669

    Ай бұрын

    Brother, 33 Is peak male age for strengh, why would you start injecting testosterone at this age? If you want fast results then you can do it, but you will have to deal with the side effects and worse of all you will never be able to train naturally again after having experienced how steroids feel. Best way is being patient and make the best out of what you can naturally.

  • @GetUpEarlier
    @GetUpEarlier2 ай бұрын

    I put together a Peter Attia Protein compilation that outlines his diet beliefs clearly: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o56XmbaBdJaodrA.html I love Paul but I don't think he's listened to Attia enough (or read enough) to say what he's saying here.

  • @patricktrossbach668
    @patricktrossbach6682 ай бұрын

    In relation to Peter, Paul is a Doctor like Dr. Suess or Dr. Pepper is a Doctor.

  • @RedWheelbarrow
    @RedWheelbarrow2 ай бұрын

    Hopefully these podcast clips end soon. We miss the old style of videos, where we (the viewer) feel present.

  • @flochfitness
    @flochfitness2 ай бұрын

    Good for Derek on pushing back on Dr. Paul's claims. Here is the link to Dr. Attia's actual claims on managing apoB (kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYqbm9ScZpy7fdY.html) TLDW: With the patients that he's worked with, managing high apoB with diet/exercise has little affect.

  • @deanschanzenbach7506
    @deanschanzenbach75062 ай бұрын

    Just because someone sounds smart doesn’t mean they are

  • @vinceandrich4603
    @vinceandrich46032 ай бұрын

    Peter is saying exercise is most important not that diet is unimportant.

  • @j.s1805
    @j.s18052 ай бұрын

    Paul speaks at 1.25 speed.

  • @aland2249
    @aland22492 ай бұрын

    Peter's book is clear that excessive saturated fat is probably not great. So he does talk about nutrition in the book.

  • @BearFackerr
    @BearFackerr2 ай бұрын

    He's living up to his own meme.

  • @eyecubed85
    @eyecubed852 ай бұрын

    Peter has a very simple point. If you are not moving then you are not serious. When you're serious we can talk about optimization. On the other hand Saladino's entire universe revolves around meat. And only one of them could continue to make content if you took their core point away.

  • @welanduzfullo8496
    @welanduzfullo8496Ай бұрын

    Derek fkking standing on business and pushing back hard

  • @HigherSelph
    @HigherSelph2 ай бұрын

    Despite being metabolically healthy, fit, and very active (with a 0 CaC) my primary Dr wants to put me on a statin with an LDL of 145 despite my ratios being good. And she cites Peter Attia as a resource informing that opinion. I agree with a lot of the comments here, but the guy does push medication. And there’s plenty of reason to question whether it’s necessary. That should have been the focus of this convo.

  • @DrMAlo
    @DrMAloАй бұрын

    As the cardiologist that debated Paul, thanks for standing up for medicine, Derek. Yes, we tell patient to exercise, diet, lose weight 99% of the time. But the patient don't always do that. We are obsessed with it. @moreplatesmoredates

  • @Ty_Quattro
    @Ty_Quattro19 күн бұрын

    Pauls point still stands...he wanted an example of someone not highlighting the food dangers differently than he, and like it or not in his book he did suggest seed oils aren't a major factor... Most people who turn to these types of influencers tried the traditional exercise 1st way...and found out that diet was most important afterall. Yes exercise is important but that seed oil rich cheat day is more detrimental to you if you dont view it as toxic as it really is despite your muscles 💪 Which we also see as we look at the other side to this over time as well. Diet is first Exercise is second Healing is third Growing is the result

  • @farooqkeita700
    @farooqkeita7002 ай бұрын

    Derek is one of the best examples for young men of lookmaxxing and charactermaxxing. Whatever that means i learnt it from my teenagers

  • @BobbyHill187
    @BobbyHill18715 күн бұрын

    Paul Saladino looking more like a Vegan now

  • @jakemarlow8998
    @jakemarlow8998Ай бұрын

    In this new nutrition/fitness/longevity space, I would trust Attia over Saladino any day of the week. I'm not saying that Saladino is never correct ... it's just that he seems to be more click-baity and a perfect fit for this social media arena. He's like the poor-man's version of Attia and Huberman. And his whole 'I'm a digital nomad living and surfing in Costa Rica' thing is total cringe.

  • @TheBroSplit
    @TheBroSplit2 ай бұрын

    I think he has a point, good diet without overeating wouldn't be bad to get on point even if excersize isn't exactly on point with weights and cardio. Maybe still need to walk a lot

  • @squattinnfottin
    @squattinnfottin2 ай бұрын

    Attia is a big proponent of good diet, in fact recently he laid out the nutrition approaches that he thinks are clearly useful for reducing ApoB. But I will say that the last thing Saladino says about nutrition being first priority to optimize, and exercise second, is in stark contrast to what Attia proposes. The thing is, we have more data on exercise as it relates to mobility and mortality, so Attia is just saying basically "the evidence looks like x", which is basically that a great level of strength and fitness combined with a good diet will take you further than a great diet and mediocre strength and fitness. Part of the problem is that what is a great diet for humans is not perfectly clear, and what that is will likely be different depending on ancestry, AND typically people who follow great diets also do other healthy stuff, so it's really hard to know what's the diet and what's from other factors. In terms of exercise, we have plenty of data from people who follow mediocre diets and are super fit and strong.

  • @debauchery715
    @debauchery7152 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of D.K. Metcalf saying he basically only eats candy.

  • @scottkski4766
    @scottkski47662 ай бұрын

    PAUL IS A Psychiatrist DR PETE WENT TO STANDARD AND STUDIED THIS VERY TOPIC I MEAN COME ON PAUL Doesn’t practice or study anywhere but is arguing this very topic. I trust DR PETE ANY DAY

  • @gwwelch
    @gwwelch2 күн бұрын

    Are there any scientific studies that show problems with seed oils?

  • @fitz2917
    @fitz29172 ай бұрын

    This dude is really good at saying very little in a lot of words

  • @november5945
    @november59452 ай бұрын

    Paul talks at 2x

  • @bhaganism
    @bhaganismАй бұрын

    This short from Attia sets up a pretty good idea of what he thinks kzread.infou62RJaKnWyQ

  • @godemperorofmankind3578
    @godemperorofmankind35782 ай бұрын

    Hasn’t mainstream medical journal endorse the DASH and MIND diets to curb metabolic dysfunction?

  • @Pico141
    @Pico1412 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the man who was 100% sure Liver King was a natural

  • @NAVEENKUMAR-pu8yd

    @NAVEENKUMAR-pu8yd

    Ай бұрын

    Oh man had totally forgot about that 😂

  • @MrButterpantz
    @MrButterpantz2 ай бұрын

    I like Peter A. He's got some stuff to hock but who doesn't. Super cerebral and unwilling to draw lines when the data isn't there. I want to like Paul S. He too can be schilly but my main problem with him is the emotional or personal anecdote pedestal he fires from. All defences go back to what he has personally seen and generally lack robust peer reviewed data. That being said I eat a ribeye, eggs, kefier and bananas with honey every morning....but I also take a statin.

  • @vinceandrich4603
    @vinceandrich46032 ай бұрын

    Also, Peter thought nutrition was most important but he changed his mind specifically as it really to longevity. But he does not advocate eating blindly

  • @XxkillerxX10
    @XxkillerxX102 ай бұрын

    Can we go back to sauna vids please?

  • @laza6141
    @laza6141Ай бұрын

    Both are important but i think that exercise is more important long term , diet will not give you cardio or strength without exercise as you get older , you will just get weaker and more frail more quickly even with the perfect diet.

  • @guystandard
    @guystandardАй бұрын

    What people like Paul miss about diet is energy balance and macronutrient balance. Those things are NOT complicated.

  • @Kelpwoud
    @Kelpwoud2 ай бұрын

    Paul clownadino, seriously do people still seek himout for nutrition advice after he's made a boatload of money fear mongering his current diet?

  • @DingleberryPie
    @DingleberryPie2 ай бұрын

    Krispy cream is the goat.

  • @vegetaCOSMOnaut2001
    @vegetaCOSMOnaut20012 ай бұрын

    algo 💪

  • @ghaithmatalkah3328
    @ghaithmatalkah332826 күн бұрын

    Changing conviction based on new data and evidence is what distinguishes Peter Attia from this guy and the likes of him … also Attia doesn’t have a supplement to sell.

  • @seanchang5372
    @seanchang53722 ай бұрын

    I agree with 80% of Paul’s message. But there’s times where we goes off the rocker. To Derek’s point there really aren’t many people saying that eating less processed shit is bad lol.

  • @aro2103
    @aro2103Ай бұрын

    This interview is really telling. There are few things that are "settled science", that nutrition is the most important factor in metabolic health is one of them, and that this dude is arguing he is the only one highlighting this makes it seem he has not read any of the reasearch that has reached a clear concensus.

  • @OneTouch1980
    @OneTouch19802 ай бұрын

    Paul is just say everything really fast and people will respect you. If I have the best diet in the world but do nothing to help with strength and cardio I'm not going to do well as I age. We need to have strength and cardio down and then look at our diets

  • @shembreakey
    @shembreakeyАй бұрын

    Paul obviously hasn’t read “Outlive” himself. Odd.

  • @MIDNIGHTMAYHEM1000
    @MIDNIGHTMAYHEM10002 ай бұрын

    He talks too fast lmao he must be on the amphetamine

  • @323lessthanzero
    @323lessthanzero2 ай бұрын

    Peter"s main focus now is longevity. And controlling metabolic heath is a big part of that. This guy is just trying to be argumenative. Peter specifically talks about metabolic heath and the things you can do to fix it. But since his main focus is on longevity he is saying that protein intake is crucial to keeping muscle mass and strength and that those are two of the biggest factors in living a long health life.

  • @fernandoperezc.7036
    @fernandoperezc.7036Ай бұрын

    - They say - Who does? - Some people - Who? - A lot of people say 🤦🏻‍♂️ Saladino is punching above his weight with Peter Attia

  • @chrisarp4111
    @chrisarp4111Ай бұрын

    Strength Train,diet with a low glycemic load, low toxins and high nutrient value. Diet is the dominant factor for body composition. This should be no debate!

  • @DanielSmith-zh9kg
    @DanielSmith-zh9kg2 ай бұрын

    I need to lose like 70 pounds.

  • @SaucySauceSSS

    @SaucySauceSSS

    2 ай бұрын

    You will. You can do it.

  • @johndeaux8815

    @johndeaux8815

    2 ай бұрын

    You've got this! I lost 65 pounds in about a year without any 'diet' by following the 1st law of thermodynamics. ΔU = Q - W ΔU = change in internal energy, where internal energy is your weight gain/loss Q = heat added, in this case food consumed W = work done by the system, in this case work done by your body Sure, it's a nerdy way of looking at it, but everything you do consumes calories, and if you eat less energy than you're outputting, your body has no choice but to use itself as a calorie source. Hope that at least made a bit of sense 😂

  • @user-cn3ug3pk1x

    @user-cn3ug3pk1x

    2 ай бұрын

    You WILL do it. You can. You must.

  • @chickentoucher55

    @chickentoucher55

    2 ай бұрын

    Who tf do people even get fat, I hate food, it’s such a damn chore I wish i could stick a tube in my stomach instead

  • @emperorpalpatine9841

    @emperorpalpatine9841

    2 ай бұрын

    All about tracking calories and eating foods that are lower in calories but still filling. Good luck.

  • @Mil891
    @Mil8912 ай бұрын

    Great to see one of these health/fitness influencers finally being called out on their bullshit! Saladino has been using his MD title to spew all kinds of bullshit, finally he is being confronted.

  • @LingLing-wx4lu
    @LingLing-wx4luАй бұрын

    I don’t agree with Pauls overuse of saturated fats but his critique of Peter is on point and derek said that Peter is very open about his diet whereas Peter has said with rhonda Patrick and others “I don’t like discussing my diet” and Paul reflected Peter’s position correctly and critiqued fairly .. derek was just being a gym bro here

  • @ImmortalanDivine
    @ImmortalanDivineАй бұрын

    Paul Salatino

  • @emet744
    @emet74410 күн бұрын

    Paul Saladino is completely correct in what he said about Peter Attia. At the very beginning of Peter's book he says that he will not discuss what people should eat because feel about it like religion. He has also had guests on who explicitly said that seed oils are beneficial because they lower cholesterol. Completely unchallenged by Peter.

  • @vincenttacraebnam8379
    @vincenttacraebnam83792 ай бұрын

    My family in Europe does NOT exercise…they walk a lot and eat great (best food - not really a sacrifice just pleasure to eat). Relatives that passed away did so past 90 years of age…some drank alcohol every single day (not drunk but definitely about 1/2 a bottle of wine).

  • @kengreeff

    @kengreeff

    Ай бұрын

    Genetics of the gods. My wife’s grandma is Italian and is 92 years old - been smoking since she was 13. The rest of us need to sleep, exercise and eat well to even fathom getting close to that age.

  • @d_andreev
    @d_andreev2 ай бұрын

    He literally picked one sentence from 400 page book and started talking sh*t. How about the other like 200 pages with examples of studies that exercise, VO2 max and strength increases health span?

  • @joethealternativegamer3935
    @joethealternativegamer3935Ай бұрын

    Why are many of these nutrition influencers not married!?

  • @BeRaIAnN
    @BeRaIAnNАй бұрын

    Derek trapped Paul into naming Peter. Derek was ambiguous about naming people the whole time. Not sure if it was intentional to trap Paul. Still a fruitful conversation from both ends

  • @stevenrandall2361
    @stevenrandall23612 ай бұрын

    Saladino could eat mcdonalds everyday with his healthy lifestyle and still thrive.

  • @erxishang61
    @erxishang61Ай бұрын

    I think Paul majority of the time would debate someone like Layne Norton. Not Peter Attia as much

  • @stevenkates4876
    @stevenkates4876Ай бұрын

    There is a reason Peter won’t talk to this guy.

  • @zerorespect958
    @zerorespect9582 ай бұрын

    His main defense. If you look at this one study 😂. This guy shouldnt be giving advice fr. Hes constantly changing his stance and diet. Nothing wrong with that unless you tell other people to follow your practices. He needs to realize that theres no one size fits all. Everybodies body is diff.

  • @exodi9420
    @exodi94202 ай бұрын

    Metformin is by far the best

  • @SaucySauceSSS

    @SaucySauceSSS

    2 ай бұрын

    What’s your experience with it been? My doctor has prescribed in the past but I’ve not taken it because I’ve heard mixed reviews. Much love ✌️

  • @Talpiot_Program

    @Talpiot_Program

    2 ай бұрын

    B¹ Benfotiamine is a massive proven bsl lowerer.

  • @RemingtinArms

    @RemingtinArms

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@SaucySauceSSS It's good. You'll prolly have the shits at first kinda like when you eat sugar free chocolates, but your body will adjust.

  • @AndresVieyraOficial
    @AndresVieyraOficial2 ай бұрын

    Seems like Sladino is not open to change his way of thinking AT ALL

  • @ken_wilkens
    @ken_wilkensАй бұрын

    Does anyone even listen to what Paul Saladino says any more?

  • @SirGalaEd
    @SirGalaEdАй бұрын

    Sadly, I do feel that this is a misunderstanding of the nutrition position of Dr. Attia. I feel that while some nutrition research is difficult to perform, the evidence for low glycolic carbs, polyunsaturated fats, and quality sources of protein are pretty clear.

  • @A91367
    @A913672 ай бұрын

    Def exercise over diet lol.

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym2 ай бұрын

    Just lift like a maniac 6 days a week and eat whatever you want, that’s 95% of gym bros.

  • @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    @humanspecieseradicationmedia

    2 ай бұрын

    And 95% of gym bros have no size or definition

  • @crucifixgym

    @crucifixgym

    2 ай бұрын

    @@humanspecieseradicationmedia 5% club

  • @tjxoom1
    @tjxoom1Ай бұрын

    Not sure why people thinks it's so controversial to say diet is the most important part of good health. It's common sense. You can't consume poison and be healthy.