It's probably very time consuming but these videos are very informative and enjoyable to watch. I'd love to see more reviews like this because it gives a different perspective

@UnseenSpirit

7 жыл бұрын

PathfinderPro that sounds great. There are a few really interesting table tennis channels and yours is one of them. You're more technical and probably appeal to boffins like myself lol. The equipment you have listed sounds pretty substantial. That's great :) To have consistent measurements is really good. Not all of us can afford to try multiple rubbers and blades so these channels are valuable. Keep up the good work, our sport of sort of niche and you're a pioneer of the digital age!

Most Chinese Players use the Hurricane for the Forehand, it's less springy so they can bring the power from their body, hit harder and not afraid the ball to shoot behind the table For The backhand Chinese people will usually use tensor rubbers like the tenergy 05, with the backhand you have less power since you hit the ball in front of the body so you need a rubber which will help you get more speed. So to sump up even though Hurricane consider to be "slower" than tensor European style rubber, in the hand of Chinese Player like Ma long it's a deadliest weapon on the forehand side! For the backhand I'll always suggest to user a tensor rubber.

@Waingro808

5 жыл бұрын

This has changed a little recently. Due to the properties of the new ball, some Chinese pros have switched back to Hurricane 3 on the backhand. For us non-pros, we should still stick with Tenergy on backhand though.

I have never seen so perfect material of rubber testing. Congratulations.

I am a defensive player and I bought a Hurracane 3 NEO without watching this videos... It is an excellent rubber with magnificent control and spin. Great for all around players!!!

Thank you for this video. I have been using H3 fr more than 5 yrs. The key to get the potential of this rubber is by making impact of sponge on the ball, and not only on the tacky top sheet. With tenergy, it's easier. With a compact swing a la Timmo Boll, you get a good spin. With H3 and Neo, you need to stretch more the swing, preferably at the highest point or slightly after. This demands a good foot work and anticipation. The spin is unique, mr difficult to block/counter, it has strange arc.

Aren't both rubbers meant to be made for players with powerful forehand loops with emphasis on the hips and the legs rather than the arm?

@efrencajurao4404

5 жыл бұрын

That is so right!

And to compare between the two, in general you are right. H3 was created in speed glue era, so it is generally slower. Neo is more durable and less prone to bubble at the top sheet. But the best of both rubber you get after you use it for about 2 weeks. The surface will be cooked and the stroke will be easier to reach the sponge. A good user will be able to reach not only the sponge but also the material of the blade. This means that even if you use carbon, the feel will reach the carbon :)

H3 generates more spin than Tenergy on a full power topspin drive, but it's harder to generate as much spin as Tenergy with H3 on slower loops.

Amazing serie of 3 videos. Great job, PathfinderPro. Keep them coming ;)

i know some players who used to train at govt facilities in china when they were younger. they said chinese rubbers vary in quality so whenever they got new shipments, players would rummage through looking for a good one. the rest were tossed back in. once they bought their own rubbers, they preferred butterfly-type rubbers like the two players at the end said: tenergy is way better i've tried both and now i understand. a well tuned h3 with higher tension sponge would do awesome though

In my experience, I am playing since 3 months ago with a Hurricane 3 NEO in my forehand and a T64 in backhand. The reason why I use the NEO is that it's unbelievable the feeling that I have making serves, pushes and heavy backspins. However, this rubber betrays me when a fast shot comes to my forehand and I have no chance to make a countertopspin, so I block it. If I do not make a perfect contact to the ball, it will go down to the net. Still, if you can control the game on the table, it's GREAT

@TyrionUnderhill

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Chinese Rubbers are not suitable for the blocking game. You need to hit harder if you want to get the most out of them. As much as I love the Chinese Philosophy of game at the moment I find myself going into defense and also use the Block shot, so this rubber is not suitable for me at the moment.

Don't be fooled by the price of a product. It's due to many factors in the chain of production: research, materials, where it's produced (Tenergy made in Japan is expected to be more expensive than Hurricane made in China), etc. I'm a penholder and played H1, H2 & H3 on my FH and felt more comfortable with the late one. Recently tried Tenergy 05 & 64 and felt T64 to be the best suited for my FH of all the mentioned before. I won't tell which is better; it's all about how they suit your style.

kudos to you. this is incredible.

Perfect video

very nice review.. it helps alot. thank you for this review:)

I have the hurricane 3 Neo on my dhs bat and I find when I'm hitting the ball I find the spin of the ball is a lot more when I tried my friends bat which had hurricane 3.Also I find the hurricane 3 neo a bit more tacky than the hurricane 3.

I have to say that H3 Neo and Skyline TG2 Neo can generate insane amounts of spin and speed! That's if you do a complete and perfect hit on the ball. There's alot of good Chinese technique videos on youtube. :) PS: I'm using Stiga Allround Evolution blade and I can compare my speed to an OFF+ blade.

@PathfinderPro its ok sir. i understand being a busy person. i will just wait for new videos. thanks. more power:))

At the end when the players compared tenergy to the hurricane rubbers didn't take in mind that a piece of tenergy rubber is well over $60 while the hurricane rubber is around $20-$30. Without even playing with either rubber I can easily tell you that tenergy is better because there is a reason it is much more expensive. Hurricane 3 and hurricane neo are rubbers for at most intermediate players and from the looks of it those players are ping pong experts so there cannot be such a comparison.

I have H3 because I borrowed someone's paddle who used it and it literally felt like the best thing ever so I had to buy it on both sides myself, but yea of course it's no Tenergy 05, Tenergy 05 is incredible, but it is probably the worst thing you could ever imagine for your backhand.

@tevtev6227

7 жыл бұрын

hammertlme What's the worst for your backhand? H3 or 05?

@eczavyr2899

7 жыл бұрын

Tevin Tech Probably H3. I really want t05fx on my bh but I find it too expensive for now so I'm taking the vega europe

@ylong5697

5 жыл бұрын

hammertlme which kind of H3 did you use on your backhand?

I find the hurricane 3 neo national with blue sponge has a bit more spin than the hurricane 3 neo its self

what h3 series were you using? the commercial ones, provincial, or national ?

DHS skyline TG3 NEO, DHS Tinarc 5, DHS NEO Hurricane 2, or Stiga calibra lt? what has most spin and is the fastest?

I have a question, the drive in the video seems more like a "loop", just a bit confused

What do you think yourself? Is it worth it buying the h3 neo or do you prefer a different chinese rubber over this one?

@PathfinderPro

4 жыл бұрын

I still have the Hurricane 3. I sold the Neo on to someone else after filming. I didn't like it much. The chinese rubber I currently use on my backhand is Hurricane 8 midhard

..countless Chinese provincial players use H3 Neo. H3 is very linear, low effort shots produce very short balls and maximum effort shots produce spectacular loop drives. You need to have good FH technique to use H3, a Chinese style forehand where you always move forward (except when looping pips chop). Tenergy is good if you have a shorter european stroke but it is not as dynamic as Hurricane 3. Look at the top Chinese players, lots use H3 on FH.

whats the next review?:))

where did you the neo?

you are wrong. cba elaborating just look up what zhang jike current #1 on ranking plays - -