I always call the customer and explain that if both coils are old and only one has gone out that the other one might fail soon. I also tell them how much labor time they will be charged if we only change one and have to do the job over again for the other coil. I leave it up to them after explaining buying two coils now is cheaper than having to do the job twice and paying the labor cost twice.

Great tip on the self tapping screws 👍

On my own equipment for my company since im in there anyway i would go ahead and replace both of them. I still enjoy your channel you are growing because of you. You are one awesome guy in my book as you know I have been around since the old days LOL and not planning on going anywhere. Keep up the great work and videos. God Bless you and your family!!!

Great video mowermedic1 as always thank u

Another informative video. good job. I would do the same and let the customer know that many times when one goes bad the other is not far behind. As others have said let them know the costs involved so they can determine if they have the money to do both. Just keep track on the bill of their decision.

I appreciate the tips! Keep 'em coming! ... Jim

Thanks for the advice on the coil mounting screw mine came out kinda hard but worked it back and forth.

hey bud great video and it helped alot but would like to know what to do if i stripped one of the bolts while putting the coil on

Both coils. Most of the Kohler command twin I repair are on grain augers, so access isn't an issue, but teardown is teardown. What the customer saves on only doing 1 coil, the 2nd coil will pay for itself in labor savings.

Great video. I have a kohler CH25 and replaced coils. Not firing. Would the stator have anything to do with it. If not can you show the wiring diagram on ignition

Thanks, great instructions !

You explain things very well

I advise replacing both of them to eliminate an unecessary comeback because the other coil was on the verge of failing.Have the conversation with the customer about this and note it on the workorder.

Definitely change BOTH coils (speaking from a customer perspective). Great video THANKS !!! My Kohler CH740 appears to have that problem after only 240 Hours.

great video, just what my issue it - hope to fix it this weekend. Thanks -

I have this discussion with customers fairly frequently. In my experience the other side always fails quickly.

Great video. My GT2550 is overheating and shutting down after 30 minutes of use. After a lot of reading, it appears to be a coil. I will replace both of them while everything is torn down. Thank you for good advice. I just subcribed to your channel.

you replace both coils at the same time . Do you replace 1 spark plug or one wiper blade ?

Great job thanks

Man your video saved me a lot of $$$$ and heartache. I have a Cub Cadet 3206. The tractor cuts like a dream, but I always dread working on it. The engineer that designed it must have been mad at somebody, or was just plain evil!!! Im taking your advice and am replacing both coils. Using genuine Kohler coils, don't want to do this repair again. Thanks again Bro!

@dirtydirty1794

2 жыл бұрын

There is an old story that says that "an engineer caught his wife having an affair with a mechanic and they have been trying to get us back every since then" !

Do you have a carb repair video on this motor by any chance my same cylinder is running lean and I’ve treated the fuel and drain the tank changed my filter but she still intermittent on the one cylinder

My mower always smokes just a little when I first start it after it sits for a day. What could cause that. It's just a little puff of smoke right when it starts and I always have to choke it to start but then it runs good.

It may not be advisable but I take a garden hose, I cover the carb intake and starter motor and clean the engine with water. If it doesn't get clean enough with that then I use a spray cleaner and spray the engine, let it soak and then hit it with the water hose.

Thanks for the info

Call the customer and explain the situation, and advise if they go for both that great. Now, if they say no tell them it will cost more if you have to come back out and get it. Most of the time they will go for both

Sparkplug grease... the aluminum colored anti seize, after you blow the chips out the holes😮. If nothing else grease...🎉🎉🎉🎉

My man...thank you bud for your instructional video. Looks much easier then I imagined. Although I don’t have the metal gaper but will use two business cards instead.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

4 жыл бұрын

Use only 1. 2 is Too thick

@juliuscaesar8801

4 жыл бұрын

THEMOWERMEDIC1 got it

In regards to your question . I would strongly suggest you replace both coils . After the bad coil is replaced , it's very little additional labor to replace other one.

Great Video,

I recently bought a used cub cadet with twin cylinder kohler. It is running but I noticed that one coil wire is missing. What kind of problems have I bought? If I replace both coils should I be ok.

Yes sir I have a kubota zero turn with a kohler 25hp vtwin and I am assuming one of the cylinders is dropping because one of the plugs doesnt get any carbon on it like the other and sometimes i feel like i can hear the one thats not firing cycle . any advice or clue to what this may be ? Great videos by the way .ps the motor sounds really good and has plenty of power so i am confused .

good question. If it was my machine being worked on, I would go ahead and replace both while it is open. But it is the customers call because its their $ and they may be planning to not keep it for long.

I need your help. I have a ex mark lazer x I’m having a crank no start problem I check the spark is good I got fuel I. Shot starting fluid in it still doesn’t start up u got any tips

Could you tell me which kohler motor that is l need a v twin kohler that has a shaft out of the flywheel side ' just like the motor on the cub cadet you was workin on mine is a CH640-3120 but l'm looking for a replacement for mine and l noticed that one has a shaft coming out the flywheel side also ' thanks in advance for any info

Hi Joe here I have a kohler command ch22s in my cub cadet. It is running on one cylinder each coil has 2 wires that goes into like a CSI box. How can I test to find the problem. Thanks Joe

Replaced the coil on a Kohler command v twin vertical mount. I bought a cheap aftermarket coil. The coil arrived without any instructions. My questions is which way does the coil mount? Is the kill connector on the top or bottom. How can I test which way it goes. Seems to run the sam either way. By the way havent seen a new video in a while. Hope all is well with you and yours.

What is the model you are working on I need that rear little drive unit coming out of the back of the motor

What would you say the problem would be if neither cylinder have spark? Both coils bad at the same time. It ran fine last year. Any info would be appreciated

I hove a gravely with a kohler confident engine that died while mowing on a hill. Now I have no spark at plugs from either coil. What are the chances that both coils went out at the same time?

Very helpful, I have a 522XI which this applies to it too, can you add to your tags

Yes

I have toro zero turn with low compression on one cylinder. I replaced both coil but it did change. Can anyone help.

Inform and advise based on your knowledge and experience, then let the customer make the call. Hopefully everyone is always learning ! Sometimes, if we are astute, we can even learn from others mistakes without making the same mistake ourselves...other times one's own stubborn nature can get in the way of the "learning from someone else's mistake" part !!! Peaced. BTW I asked a question about a Bolens 22" cut with a 5.5hp B&S self-propelled many moons ago(been a couple of years now !). Did you ever work on a Bolens ?

Good work, man. Can you direct me to a vertical Kohler 24.6 hp coil replacement ? Like the John Deere has ? Thanks, Dead in the yard in Cape Coral, FL

I always tell the people fix mowers for that if they have a 2 cylinder mower with 2 coils and one fails that they should change both. I have the same mower in this video one failed and i went ahead and changed both

Can I see some mower Drive Chain And Belt Tensioning On old Mc Clane 22" front Throw Mower

I advise do both of them, but they are on a tight budget I usually ring out the other coil with an ohm meter to see if it is anywhere near spec. If the customer does not want the second coil, I note it on the service order and explain that only the new coil is warranted. I had a coil the other day out of spec and the machine would not start. Sometimes it does not take much with electric stuff. Thanks for great video's.

I reather go head replace both an be done I got a cub cadet 2206 I'm just going to replace both when do it

Not a tough choice, if you're a professional, replace both! Just like head gaskets on a twin. You do BOTH.

Just like knee replacement you can have both done at the same time, yes I know a friend who did it ,

Thank you for the advice about removing the coil screws. I would have gone in with an impact gun.

@MrMrsregor

3 жыл бұрын

Pull the whole motor out to fit a impact wrench in there ? Dont think u can fit an impact in there unless you have a right angle impact

@Nick_M3

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMrsregor I was trying to say that I would have been lazy and used an impact. I'm glad I watched this video before I replaced my coils.

@MrMrsregor

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nick_M3 oh yea, makes sense. I have the same bad habits... Probably good that my impact did not fit in there

Great video. My problem is the engine won’t stop, it keeps running until I unplug the spark plug boot. I looked at the kill switch assembly and it looks fine I’m thinking the kill wire from the coil. What do you think and how I can diagnose the kill wire coming from the coil. Thank you

@mrbrown6421

4 жыл бұрын

Did you fix your problem yet? With the engine running, you can connect a wire from any metal on the engine to the kill TERMINAL on the coil. If that kills it, then you have a wiring problem. If that does NOT kill it, the coil has a (rare) broken wire internal. If you have an ohm meter, with the engine off, measure resistance between the kill wire and any metal engine part. There should be zero (or close) resistance, meaning that kill wire is properly switched to ground through the ignition switch. Very often, the ignition switch connector is VERY dirty and simply needs cleaning. Also the ignition switch can simply fail, and needs replacing. Good luck.

@col2959

5 ай бұрын

Diode

I always replace the other coil also. Fix it once the first time and be done.

Show a video on how to check 4 terminal Honda coils Can’t find information on testing them

On the kohler rebuild manual,it says the right side coil goes on with the kill tab facing out and on the left side the kill tab faces in. This is infact how the old ones were installed on mine when I took it apart. Are you familiar with this?

@col2959

5 ай бұрын

I thought was other way around ? Not sure. But yes one goes one on outside one on inside of coil ( kill tab )

I used a sheet of paper, is that to thin?

how do I find Part 1?

I always Let the customer decide after I I explain the pro and cons

Maybe the valve lash is off a bit on the #1 cylinder due to the potential overheating problem.

I just traded for a Lincoln Ranger welder with Kohler CH730 23 HP. The engine was running on one cylinder only. After pulling the valve cover on the non fire cylinder I found a broken push rod. Both valves are free and each cylinder is measuring 155 p.s.i. I attempted to run the engine on the other cylinder. It is back firing through the carb. Do you have any videos on this topic? Thank you and new subscriber👍👍 Tom

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

Flywheel Key sheared

I give them a heads up, their choice.

I would try to get the customer to replace both and show them how much of a job it is to get to the coils and advise to change it while it's opened up

Have you ever had both coils fail at the same time on a vtwin kohler.

Ohe question of replacing1 or 2 coils, give the customer the option. If he decides not to replace the other coil simply note that on the repair ticket in case the other one goes out.

I have a Kohler command I think it's 25 hp. V twin its on a commercial pressure washer. Im looking for a video of someone having the same issues im having so I can fix mine. It started by not wanting to start. I changed carburetor fuel pump filter etc. Seems to have whitish blue spark. But it is really hard to start. Like it takes a bunch of effort. Mayne 20 minutes I can get it to turn over. Once warm it runs but after a short period of time it looses power and wants to die out. By chance before I changed carburetor I put some trans fluid in and that seems to make it run good for awhile. Even with new carn though same deal have to toss some trans fluid in to get it to run ok. I checked valves and pushrod they seem ok. I mean if they out of spec it's not easy to spot with the eye. Only 500 hours on engine. Im stumped but not a small engine tech. Can anyone point me in a direction of what might be going on?

I work on small engine I would change both

I haven't seen any videos on the single cylinder kolher with the dsai igition coil. I'm working on one that's bad. CV 16 S. I dont want to spend 200 dollars for another dsai module .

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

Swap it out with the updated ignition kit

Did all this . All good but then on full load one cylinder drops out and then eventually kicks. Ack in. Driving me nuts.

It depends on their financial situation. I will tell them what I'd do, but if they're hurting in the wallet sometimes they will just want to fix the one. Where I live not everybody is well off financially, and sometimes they just want the bare minimum to get back to cutting bahiagrass, especially this time of year. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

I usually call them and let them make that call.

Tell customer that they usually both go at same time and suggest they replace both while ur in there. Pay a little now instead of alot later

cool good video looking foward to checking out channelas i too have a mower that wont goer looks to be like that heck it might be that one as it was gave to me from criglister on{y hour away cant get people down street get rid of theirs well theirs does run right. lol but i got cub new battery new starter seat is captains kind no spinny locked up tight and its a shame because this mower looks great to be old as it is deck was washed out when cut looks like it anway it was kept in garage its heavy duty 2452 or 2542 gt the ole side shaft kohley 20 hp believe try get it going for pops hes up in 70 and wont quit so im put this rider in rotaton if can what few things look for not busted case no oil leaks looks low on oil though say low oil and hill i seen where they cut mans 18 year old son was cutting and it quit all he knew and i believed him to my buddy lives down that way had him go look at it and he said looks good boy wouldnt help him put it in ranger and i was hour away he wouldnt hold it till got there if someone else came it had address on listing made my buddy sit there till got there lol well thats enough for now thanks for the imfo video

In one frame the blower housing is off, then later it's on . This is the only abstraction about the job. One bolt won't come out . It's against the frame adding 2 more dimensions to the job . Deck belt and engine lift.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

4 жыл бұрын

twosence fromcleveland then you must be doing it wrong

@twosencefromcleveland6084

4 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 plz tell us how you removed the lower right blower cover bolt. It hits the frame before it clears the hole.

@twosencefromcleveland6084

4 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 oh, and thank for replying.

I would the Customer that it would be ad Good idea to replace Coils now . Ot will hor cost more Labor wise But save cost rather It other one go out Let the Customee make the Choice when his trust . And they'll retuen

change both for suew

I replace both.

How does a bad coil, cause engine to run hot?

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

4 жыл бұрын

Timing

@jamesself2409

4 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 thank you, did not know if lean or coils. engine is kohler 23hp horizontal.

do the job right the first time and let the customer know what is going on".a stitch in time saves nine".your customer should appreciate it.

Replace both no question

replace all

Give the customer the info and let him decide as younsay

Replace both coils. The other coil could go out at any time

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

I am a firm believer in if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

I just present the customer with the option, while i have the motor torn down. the decision is solely up to customer. i do NOT try to upsale anything !

I would suggest both coils be replaced.

Replace both. More money for the part.

I would replace it now , to avoid it later . The few dollars extra is not worth the time lost redoing the whole process

Home shop-I never fix nothing unless it's broke.. five minute job..

I let them know that there is a 2nd coil, and give the customer the option.

i just got censored so much for u tube

just fix it dont worry about the up selling here is the mower and the bill women who cant mow are the nasty people to deal with just fix it belts etc tires they will be happy

Replace both coils

For better accuracy you might clean the corrosion off the magnet first, and then set the gap.

@neutrodyne

4 жыл бұрын

I usually clean magnet and then spray it with a light coat of some type of clear coat finish like lacquer. That will keep it from rusting again.

@bretlambky

4 жыл бұрын

neutrodyne I agree, in the video the magnet looks pretty crummy. To be accurate on setting the gap I thought it would be better to start off nice and clean..

leave it up to the customer, however, give him or her the entire story . The other is working but might go at any time.

In my worthless opinion, I would replace both coils for down-the-road insurance....

No cards popped up.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

5 жыл бұрын

May not work on all platforms. If not hit up my ignition system playlist

Common sense dictates, replace both.

Replace both of them

I’ll never buy another Kohler

That's true Except there Junk! junk steel junk threads IDK why something so expensive does MANUFACTURING SHORTCUT'S if they used a Thread forming tap the taps last over 50000 holes and makes a very strong thread by moving the aluminum to a tighter molecular structure. WE NEVER used self tapping in Metal on Wood okay.

no you don't