Bro. Williams allowed him to dig his own hole. He will bury himself by time its over. Williams laid it out perfect in the beginning by saying if its not in scripture, we cant pick it up. LDS agreed then proceeded to talk about the book of Mormons. Part 2 will be even better.

@michellewilson2995

2 ай бұрын

It's not so much about burying him as much as it is Prayerfully, he will see the error of his teachings and come to a knowledge of the truth.

I appreciate our brother Willie Williams III, and all who labor for the gospel of Jesus Christ, knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men! The love of Christ compels us! The reason we send evangelists is to get the gospel out to people who have not heard the gospel because the wages of sin is death, and the only way out of that death is through obedience to the gospel, so they must hear the gospel to even have a chance. Just like God heard Cornelius' prayer and got the gospel to him because he was sincere, God can do that with people who live remotely and are sincerely trying to obey God. Nothing is too hard for God!

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

The question stil stands sister. If they dont hear the TRUE gospel, what happens to their soul after they pass?

@latoyacunningham6940

2 ай бұрын

@gbengoosewuru4139 Hello! I appreciate you asking. The answer is in my original comment. I said -death (Romans 6:23 says that the wages of sin is death). This is not only the death that is appointed unto man once (Hebrews 9:27), but it is the second death, hell fire (Revelation 20:14). It's very serious. Jesus said in Luke 12 "‭Luke 12:47-48 ESV‬: [47] And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. [48] But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more." The one who never knew the master's will (true gospel included) but did what deserved a beating will still receive a beating, but a lighter beating than the one who knew the master's will. Even if someone sins once, the wages of that sin is death, which is why there is urgency to preach and teach the gospel to everyone everywhere because Acts 17:30-31 says "[30] The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, [31] because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead." Ignorance will not be an excuse for anyone. Like Brother Williams mentioned, Romans 1 says mankind is without excuse, particularly the Gentiles/heathens. Romans 2 also says mankind is without excuse, particularly all those who judge those Gentiles/heathens in chapter 1, which would be the Jews who definitely knew better/Christians today. After passing, souls who did not know God or did not obey the gospel of Christ are tormented in Hades where the rich man in Luke 16 went. Hell fire happens after the return of Christ/Judgment Day. This is why Jesus told his disciples to go out into all the world and make disciples of every nation in Matthew 28 and Mark 16. It is urgent! I hope this comment helped answer your question. There are many more Scriptures. What is your understanding of the Scriptures I mentioned so far?

Well done bro.Williams that was extremely succinct! And with humility and loving approach!

Great revealing of Truth and error. This was done in the spirit of meekness. Well done

Great discussion. A majority of my family is LDS. I’m always in prayer on how I can continue to approach them. I’m looking forward to the 2nd part.

To God be the Glory! I love the way God is using you for His glory! ❤

Praying for ya Willie ..

1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 "But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who have died, so that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have died." No scripture suggest we be baptized for the dead or to even worry about those who have died and this is just one of the many scriptures that state so God bless you

Great discussion, very interested in part 2

Ya’ll ended part 1 on a juicy note. Please post part 2 asap.

Great discussion! Can't wait for part 2

Love you Brother Williams

@NorthColonyCoC

2 ай бұрын

Bless You

Great discussion! 👏🏿 Looking forward to part 2.

Great discussion!

We need part 2!!😅😢 amazing discussion. Would love to see where it goes, because we're not 100% aligned, even though the LDS guy says it.

Awesome job with this

Awesome job Bro. Williams 👍🏾🙏🏽

I used to work for a medical doctor who is a LDS. I gave him tracts regarding the cofC. He told me that what WE believe is very similar to how they believe. When it came to instruments during service, he said, "Yeah, it's just something about those drums."😮 Scripture is Scripture. WE didn't write it or make the commandments. Our Creator did. Follow HIM, not the flesh

Awesome work

Great job I enjoyed this

I'm looking forward to part 2

He said he believe there are 12 apostles on earth today based on the Book of Mormon. Bro. Williams should’ve delved into that.

@lallen8131

2 ай бұрын

I agree. But I think he may be focused on the salvation of people. Terry Allen here, Minister of Center Road Church of Christ, Saginaw Michigan.

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

33:27 hello brother/sister. That's not what he said. The previous question was Why we call oursleves Mormon. He answered by explaining the Book of Mormon. The next question was what do we call ourselves and Bro. Ward's answer was "disciples of Christ". He continued to expand on that by talking about authority. Looks like you mistakenly combined answers from 2 separate questions. We believe there are apostles on earth today because that is how Christ organized his church. Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; We believe his church has been restored on this earth and he has called prophets and apostles as he did in the verses above.

@aspirationinspiration4812

2 ай бұрын

@gbengoosewuru4139 it was clear what he said. He then claimed to be one of the 12 that are currently on earth. Eph 2.20 speaks about the "Foundation" of the prophets and apostles. Foundation is already laid and Jesus is the Chief cornerstone. Why are we laying another foundation if the apostles and prophets already laid it?

@christaldiaz4867

2 ай бұрын

Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 The what “which is perfect comes” this is The Word John 1:1-2

It is appointed unto man once to die after that the judgement. There are no 2nd chances!

Good night

There was 3 dispensation and in those three way to be saved.baptism in New testament is for Christian age

The kingdom/ church is already here

Just by the thumbnail i wish i was their looking out number

Bro. Ward and elders, AWESOME job!! Bro. Ward explained the Book of Mormon and how calling us "Mormons" is derogatory. He also quoted the BIBLE, yet the introductory slide for this video says "Mormon Bible".😔 If this truly is a genuine discussion to get an understanding of each other's beliefs, I hope the slide for the next video correctly mentions the churches full name - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Also, the book is not called "Mormon Bible". It's called Book of Mormon. For the North Colony brethren and sisters l

The kingdom is the government part of the church..the kingdom is the church and it was established when God gave Jesus the kingdom

55:52 If Jesus never taught it, but Paul did, is Bro. Williams suggesting that Paul created his own doctrine even though Paul claimed to have received all his understanding from Jesus? Also, the teaching is in the bible? Are we to follow everything in the bible or just some things in the bible?

@ChristianDivaRadio

2 ай бұрын

Bro. Williams never said that Paul taught it. Paul brought attention to what other people were doing and practicing which was not in accordance to the Gospel. Jesus never taught it, Paul (Apostles) never taught it and no Disciples ever practiced it.

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

​@@ChristianDivaRadiothanks for the response. I didn't say Bro. Williams said that Paul taught it. I suggest that you read my comment and also 1 Corinthians 15 one more time.

@christaldiaz4867

2 ай бұрын

James 1:2-8 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

@christaldiaz4867

2 ай бұрын

2 Timothy 3:13-17 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

@christaldiaz4867

2 ай бұрын

Titus 3:9-10 But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless. Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.

John's baptism was insufficient and those had to get baptized again. You cannot be baptized by proxy. That removes personal accountability. It is difficult to reason with someone when the recognize a different authority. Tablets buried in the ground. Apostles who have never met Jesus.

12 apostles on Earth still? Scripture? I heard a lot of I believe.. With all due respect! Love this guys passion tho

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

We believe there are apostles on earth today because that is how Christ organized his church. Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 1 Corr 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. We believe his church has been restored on this earth and he has called prophets and apostles as he did in the verses above.

@thebabygoats2670

2 ай бұрын

Acts 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. Which begs the question how do they have 12 apostles? I dont believe anyone walking this earth today walked with Jesus.

Good guy but a lot of contradictions of scripture

It's funny but it's not funny because people are loosing thier souls believing this doctrine.

1:00:30 Bro. Ward emphasized in being baptized "CORRECTLY". Everyone will need to be baptized in the flesh on earth before death or via proxy if the pass on without getting baptized CORRECTLY. The "correctly" that Bro. Ward is referring to is with proper authority. Why was John the Baptist the only one baptizing? Because he had the authority from God to do so. His baptisms were recognized and acknowledged by God. If you get baptized by someone who does not have that authority, that baptism is null and void. So even though someone was baptized on earth by someone with no authority, you have not been baptized. Proxy baptism for the dead is only performed if a person was not correctly baptized before death. There is only ONE CORRECT baptism.

@candicehampton4224

2 ай бұрын

Hello, I believe that you answered your own question. Paul got his authority on the road to Damascus from Jesus Christ to go and preach the Gospel, he was given the authority to heal and baptize he is not teaching his own doctrine and he tells you that. The teaching is in the Bible you can reference, Acts 9, Romans 1:1-4, Gal. 1:11-2:1-21. I have a couple questions. Could you give me an example in the Bible where there was a proxy for a baptism? Also, the young men that are elders, Are they married and with faithful children? According to Titus 1:1-6 and 1 Tim 3 It’s strict guidelines for those who are ordained as elders to be married with one wife and faithful children. I appreciate your response in advance!

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

Response to your first question Not exactly sure what question you were answering. I asked a rhetorical question about John the Baptist, but the first part of your comment is referring to Paul. If you agree that Paul got his understanding and authority from Christ and taught what Christ taught him, then I'll quote the scripture that was quoted in the video. 1 Corinthians 15 Paul is telling the people via a letter: -If there is no resurrection of the dead, Christ did not rise. - If Christ did not rise, our preaching is in vain. -If our preaching is in vain, our faith is in vain and we are false witnesses if he did not rise - if Christ did not rise, he is not raised. - If he did not raise, you are still in your sin and those that are dead are perished because they too will not rise. He then says, but Christ has risen and then goes to hint about details of the resurrection that are 100% aligned with our beliefs. At this point everyone is fully aware that Christ is really who all the prophets prophesied about and who he said he was. All knees have bowed. We know that in order to be saved from sin, you must be baptized. I'm sure you agree with that. Now, in this letter Paul then asks a rhetorical question - remember Corinthians is a letter and not a sermon. 1Corr 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? WHY are they then baptized for the dead? Just as Paul was saying earlier if Christ did not rise our faith is in vain, etc. He's saying what's the point of us doing baptism for the dead if Christ did not rise.

@gbengoosewuru4139

2 ай бұрын

Answer to your 2nd question. No they are not married nor do they have kids. You're misunderstanding those verses and completely ignoring the spirit of the law, but focused on the letter of the law. This is just demanding that the men be of good moral character. If you are married, have one wife. What if they are married and then the wife dies? Should they be immediately released of that calling? Also, Paul was not married. So he would have been excluded from being an elder.

@01poptravel

2 ай бұрын

I can see how you came to this conclusion. However, it clearly states in 1 Timothy & Titus that an elder must be the husband of one wife. If you keep reading in Titus you will notice he uses the words “not” & “ no”. So we must assume that if he meant it the way you perceive it he would had said “ not having multiple wives”. We take everything literal in the text. Also Peter and John were elders but Paul is never called an elder. Not all apostles are necessarily elders and not all elders were necessarily apostles. Paul appointed elders to the church.

@01poptravel

2 ай бұрын

@@gbengoosewuru4139 Also, I would not want an elder overseeing me if he were not married or had children. How are they to teach on subjects they have no experience in? For this reason I believe God wanted the elders of the church to be married.

There's no other doctrine. First horrible mistake. Second, Christ kingdom is not of earth and the Bible is in order with word. Interlinear concordance of prophecies as well. Let's really understand that Christ will not set up a kingdom on earth. Why because the Bible says so! God doesn't lie this is why we have His word. Here it is right here about Christ not being a person that will never have a kingdom on earth..... Christ cannot rule on David’s throne in literal Jerusalem. Jeremiah the prophet thus condemned Coniah (Jeconiah) King of Judah for his disobedience to the Lord: Thus says the LORD: Write this man down as childless, A man who shall not prosper in his days; For none of his descendants shall prosper, Sitting on the throne of David, And ruling anymore in Judah (Jeremiah 22:30). Jeconiah was not literally childless, for Jesus’ descent from David is traced through him (Matthew 1:12-15). But he was childless in the way the prophet specified. No descendant of Jeconiah can ever prosper sitting on the throne of David ruling in Judah. Jerusalem was the capital of Judah and obviously within its territory.

You cannot be baptized and accept Christ for someone else!!! What is this talking about!!

You both are possibly wrong

@ChristianDivaRadio

2 ай бұрын

Naaawwwww…. It’s only one wrong here and it’s the one that is trying to baptize for the dead smh… created a storybook and personally appointed 12 White claimed Apostles