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Have you ever wondered why A4 is the way it is? Well Matt Parker has sorted it all out for you.
Two A4's side by side make an A3. Two A3's side by side make an A2. Two A2's together make an A1 and two A1's together make a A0. Almost like magic isn't it? Well it isn't. As Matt Parker explains the A4 paper scale is based on a meter and one meter is exactly one forty millionth of the circumference of the earth.
How does that compare to the US paper sizes? Well you have ledger which is seventeen inches by eleven inches. And then there is tabloid which is eleven inches by seventeen inches. (Are you beginning to see the similarities as well?) Then there is legal which is eight and a half inches by fourteen inches, and Junior legal which is eight inches by five inches.
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  • @BBCEarthScience
    @BBCEarthScience10 жыл бұрын

    Matt is right, A0 is one meter squared in area, but we got the graphics wrong! The A0 dimensions are 1189 X 841 mm or 46.8 X 33.1 inches!

  • @normansharples2689

    @normansharples2689

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is not one metre squared ie 1m x 1m. It is though, 1 square metre in the proportion of 1 x root 2. The difference can be best illustrated by 2 metres squared which is 2m by 2m = 4 sq metres, and 2 square metres which are 2 x 1 square metre = 2 square metres

  • @snatermans

    @snatermans

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​ @Norman Sharples I'm not totally agreeing with you. The comment you are replying to does a better job of illustrating that they made a mistake and what it was, then you. It's more like you fog up a resolved issue. :) @BBC Earth lab: that mistake is almost unforgivable. But worse: why is no card placed over that in 7 years?

  • @Liggliluff

    @Liggliluff

    3 жыл бұрын

    Inches? Get those out of here!

  • @user-rr8hc8ls5n

    @user-rr8hc8ls5n

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huh… I thought I was stupid…

  • @TassieLorenzo

    @TassieLorenzo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@snatermans I don't think card overlays work on KZread videos anymore.

  • @IAMMRAMAZING
    @IAMMRAMAZING8 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure but I think he might not like the American paper system

  • @IAMMRAMAZING

    @IAMMRAMAZING

    8 жыл бұрын

    The only defense of it that I can think of is that it would be extremely hard and very expensive to switch to the metric system

  • @IAMMRAMAZING

    @IAMMRAMAZING

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Procyon B. yes but that was a long time ago now we have a lot of expensive equipment that would need to be replaced as well as no one likes to change

  • @DanielSultana

    @DanielSultana

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mr Amazing no need to replace any equipment, equipment is already made to take both sizes of paper, all you need is to stop producing american sized paper, and use up whats already available (so no paper is wasted) than when replacing broken equipment, replace with equipment that uses A system.

  • @666Tomato666

    @666Tomato666

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mr Amazing except that all printers sold in Europe (!) can deal with the Letter paper size just fine, same with copiers so exactly what kind of "expensive equipment" can't deal with paper that's just 5.9mm slimmer?

  • @IAMMRAMAZING

    @IAMMRAMAZING

    8 жыл бұрын

    I didn't think American printers could use the a 4 system and printers are expensive

  • @veilside33
    @veilside3310 жыл бұрын

    "Junior Legal: That's what you use when you're suing a child." Totally lost it at this point. Love your work mate.

  • @marcosdiez7263
    @marcosdiez726310 жыл бұрын

    The video misses one of the most important features of the A4 system: paper weight. If you have to send a (physical) document made of several sheets of paper by mail, you'll be charged by weight. How to make a budget for that, or how to choose paper for that? With A4 system it's a piece of cake: paper is being sold with a known weight in grams (again, metrical system) for each A0 sheet (square meter), so let's say, a "80 g/m2" paper means that an A4 sheet weights exactly 80/16 = 5 grams, the your 250 pages document will weight 1,25 kg without need of a balance at hand, and if you want it to weight less than a kilogram, then you do the opposite to find out you have to buy A4 sheets of 64 g/m2 or less. To do the same with the imperial measure, well... you better start googling it. And you even have a correlated envelopes measuring system, called the "B" system.

  • @BoogsterSU2

    @BoogsterSU2

    10 жыл бұрын

    And why does the C-series paper size exist?

  • @Gladix777

    @Gladix777

    10 жыл бұрын

    Boogster Su Different cathegories for different uses. There is A, B, C, D and more

  • @MartinHohenberg

    @MartinHohenberg

    9 жыл бұрын

    Boogster Su C sizes are for envelopes, who need to be a little wider to accept for three-dimensional expansion for taking up several folded A sheets.

  • @keiyakins

    @keiyakins

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except, uh, that's just the nature of paper. It's sold with a known weight here too

  • @felipevasconcelos6736

    @felipevasconcelos6736

    5 жыл бұрын

    Keiya, yeah, but you only need to know the density when dealing with the A series, since the area of each sheet is trivial. With US sizes you need to calculate the area of the sheet of paper to know its mass.

  • @henk6172
    @henk61728 жыл бұрын

    1:00 A0 is equal to one square meter, but of course it's not 1 meter by 1 meter :)

  • @henk6172

    @henk6172

    8 жыл бұрын

    Leandro Pardini that's a clever way of calculating it, didn't even think of that

  • @loicvanderwielen

    @loicvanderwielen

    7 жыл бұрын

    Actually, the ISO 216 defines three different type of sizes (A, B and C) all of which are defined by their 0 size. As explained in the video, an A0 has the a 1m² surface and it's width x is defined by the equation 1000 000 = x² *sqrt(2) (the ration between the length and the width being sqrt(2), the surface (in mm²) is equal to the product the width and the length or the product of the square of the width and sqrt(2)). B0 is defined by a width of 1m, the ratio still being sqrt(2). Finally, C0 is the geometrical mean of the 2 others (thus keeping the sqrt(2) ratio).

  • @iamthinking2252_

    @iamthinking2252_

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, otherwise it'd be a square. Apparently, also something cool about it is that A0 has the same RATIO as A1, A2, A3, A4 etc

  • @christianellegaard7120

    @christianellegaard7120

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's length x width = 1 and length/width = sqrt(2)

  • @factsverse9957

    @factsverse9957

    7 жыл бұрын

    Harm Prins And also A4 cut into two is A6

  • @rulerandstapler
    @rulerandstapler8 жыл бұрын

    "you don't get a different sized paper by rotating it slightly" 😂😂

  • @sysghost

    @sysghost

    6 жыл бұрын

    In america you do ;)

  • @beauwilliamson3628

    @beauwilliamson3628

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sysghost The grain runs in different directions. Not the same at all when you have to work with it.

  • @kykk3365

    @kykk3365

    5 жыл бұрын

    American paper sizes are like american political parties.

  • @therealb888

    @therealb888

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kykk3365 lol illuminati confirmed!

  • @Krrypton

    @Krrypton

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@beauwilliamson3628 : Yes, the grain runs in different directions. And that's why in printing and bookbinding we use notions like short grain and long grain, instead of relying on an ambiguous distinction nobody actually makes - because how the grain runs depends on how the sheet of paper was cut, not on whether you orient it with the short or the long side towards you.

  • @alandouglas2789
    @alandouglas27898 жыл бұрын

    I laughed so hard when Matt said "doesn't sound like freedom to me"

  • @SilverEye91

    @SilverEye91

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alan Douglas Pretty much sums up the US as a whole.

  • @TremereTT

    @TremereTT

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well the US intelligence services and police authorities don't look like to be suffering from a lack of freedom in their job.

  • @ChickenPermissionOG

    @ChickenPermissionOG

    Жыл бұрын

    You can go as large as you want only the size of the printer stops you.

  • @FranzReischl
    @FranzReischl10 жыл бұрын

    As a technician, I have to admit: I *love* the A4 scale. It´s convinient, logical, predictable. The best part for technical drawings: if you scale it down two A sizes, you end up with a legit ratio again - every distance on the paper is then just half the original size.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Franz Reischl (Dragon's Advocate) I know. My company's CAD standard size is architectural D size paper, which is 24" high by 36" wide. We rarely print on this size paper, because of how wasteful it would be to print every iteration. Instead, everything gets printed on 11"x17" for the run of the mill drawing review. That means a full size drawing gets printed at 44% of its scale to fit on this size paper. And it also makes it incredibly difficult to measure off of the bar scale on the drawings. 2" on the drawing bar scale at full size intends to indicate (perhaps 100 ft) in real life. The original bar scale now shrinks to 0.88 inches, and now 0.88" represents 100 ft in real life. I don't have a ruler that is calibrated to easily count in 0.88 inches to use for interpreting this bar scale. However, if it were shrunk at exactly 50% to the review size, it would be a lot more intuitive to preserve the functionality of a drawing scale.

  • @mofi3641

    @mofi3641

    3 жыл бұрын

    never got used to something different. in a nutshell: everyone else printing and scaling JUST WORKS! ;)

  • @aethylwulfeiii6502

    @aethylwulfeiii6502

    Жыл бұрын

    No one even uses the scale on the drawings. The drawings say do not scale the drawings. And the scale factor requires three or more unit conversions to use.

  • @Anonymous-df8it

    @Anonymous-df8it

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't you still end up with a 'legit ratio' whatever that means after one scaling?

  • @TCWordz
    @TCWordz8 жыл бұрын

    "Doesn't sound like freedom to me!"

  • @johnschwalb

    @johnschwalb

    8 жыл бұрын

    yes because a locked aspect ratio is freedom instead of just making what ever paper you want

  • @SamMcWhannel

    @SamMcWhannel

    8 жыл бұрын

    That line gets me everytime. lol

  • @vkulanthaivel

    @vkulanthaivel

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sam McWhannel the a4 paper plus the a5 paper is a3.5!

  • @HollywoodF1

    @HollywoodF1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that it's quantized and the lengths of the sides are impossible to memorize.

  • @tjejojyj

    @tjejojyj

    7 жыл бұрын

    +HollywoodF1 all you need to do is think about 7 & 3. A4 = 297 X 210 = (300 - 3) X ( 3 X 70)

  • @TheConnor12500
    @TheConnor125008 жыл бұрын

    "The only rational irrational choice when it comes to paper sizes" is a fantastic line!

  • @resurrectedsunlight155

    @resurrectedsunlight155

    4 жыл бұрын

    The subtitles didn't get the joke, unfortunately...

  • @chaitanyaanand12

    @chaitanyaanand12

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂👍👍

  • @guerra_dos_bichos
    @guerra_dos_bichos8 жыл бұрын

    that's wat you use when you are sueing a child.

  • @davidm.johnston8994

    @davidm.johnston8994

    8 жыл бұрын

    That got me too haha

  • @YoniIsrael

    @YoniIsrael

    3 жыл бұрын

    wait, it's not? I just said to myself "well. Americans are weird, so maybe it's true" and didn't think much about it

  • @MateusZeifer

    @MateusZeifer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@YoniIsrael me too, kkk

  • @andrewmoschou1310
    @andrewmoschou13107 жыл бұрын

    One of the beauties comes in technical drawings. Pen sizes come in 1mm, 0.7mm, 0.5mm, 0.35mm, 0.25mm. So if you're drawing on A3 in 0.7mm, you can photocopy and scale it down to A4 and then continue drawing in 0.5mm and the lines will still have the same thickness.

  • @aethylwulfeiii6502

    @aethylwulfeiii6502

    Жыл бұрын

    In America they come in screw making sense sizes 5H - 6B.

  • @Anonymous-df8it

    @Anonymous-df8it

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't they have to be 2^(-1/2) mm though?

  • @wich1

    @wich1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@aethylwulfeiii6502pens? not pencils?

  • @TheRealFOSFOR
    @TheRealFOSFOR8 жыл бұрын

    5:10 "If you are suing someone." .. Gimme a break. This is the US we are talking about. You should have said "When you are suing someone."

  • @a5harpie454

    @a5harpie454

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I've only sued one company, and it wasn't my fault. They sued themselves on my behalf.

  • @martinshoosterman

    @martinshoosterman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Assuming you are sueing someone who isnt a child though, thats no guarantee.

  • @symix.

    @symix.

    7 жыл бұрын

    i see you didnt get the joke martin..

  • @ELFanatic

    @ELFanatic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dude, this ain't the 90's

  • @cloudvsephiroth215

    @cloudvsephiroth215

    7 жыл бұрын

    He Ka Can we stop making Americans the butt of every joke!

  • @ArndBergmann
    @ArndBergmann6 жыл бұрын

    It's also particularly convenient to have 80g/m^2 paper as the most common type for printer paper, as that makes one sheet of A4 have a mass of exactly 5.000g. If you ever want to know how many sheets of paper you have in a stack, just weigh it. Since a regular DL or C6 envelope is made from roughly one sheet of A4 paper, and letters (at least in Germany) can weigh up to 20g or 50g depending on the stamp you use, that also means you can send letters with up to 3 or 9 pages and don't need a scale to know what stamp to use.

  • @tynoArcher
    @tynoArcher8 жыл бұрын

    "someone really has pulled that out of their ASSumption" Ahahahha very slick Matt >.

  • @TristanBomber
    @TristanBomber8 жыл бұрын

    The drawing for A0 is inaccurate. It's not a square, it's a ratio of 2 to sqrt(2), just like every A# paper.

  • @yypish

    @yypish

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TristanBomb 2/sqrt(2) is actually just sqrt(2), but other than that you are right.

  • @jesusthroughmary

    @jesusthroughmary

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TristanBomb It's because Matt said "1 meter square" rather than "1 square meter".

  • @stensoft

    @stensoft

    8 жыл бұрын

    +jesusthroughmary He said ‘1 metre square*d*’ :-)

  • @Horstroad

    @Horstroad

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jan Sten Adámek But the drawing reads 1 metre by 1 metre, which is incorrect as TristanBomb stated.

  • @atomicmrpelly

    @atomicmrpelly

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Leandro Pardini I don't understand what you're trying to say here. A0 paper is not 1000*1000mm, as people have been saying.

  • @KishoreShenoy1994
    @KishoreShenoy19948 жыл бұрын

    Do you think the Audi A1 is twice the size of the Audi A2?

  • @paulkennedy8701

    @paulkennedy8701

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kishore Shenoy I've never heard of the Audi A1 or the Audi A2, but I'm going to guess no.

  • @barstiryaki4441

    @barstiryaki4441

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just cut from the middle

  • @onetom2222

    @onetom2222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. As a german, I can certify for this to be the case

  • @onurbschrednei4569

    @onurbschrednei4569

    3 жыл бұрын

    A4: Vorsprung durch Technik

  • @johannespaul5028

    @johannespaul5028

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@onetom2222 naja nach der DIN Vorgabe sollte A1 eh größer als A2 sein… A2 hat folgende abmaße: 3826 / 1673 / 1553 und der A1: 4029/1740/1409 Weshalb die Audi Nomenklatur in diesem Fall verwirrt aber der DIN A zuspricht…. also Ende gut alles gut

  • @BBCEarthScience
    @BBCEarthScience10 жыл бұрын

    Opps! Sorry about that! Matt is right, A0 is one meter squared in area, but we got the graphics wrong. The A0 dimensions are 1189 X 841 mm or 46.8 X 33.1 inches!

  • @thrango2379
    @thrango23798 жыл бұрын

    As an American, I support A4 and the measurement of meters(metres? One step at a time). But not everyone is so open-minded.

  • @piticea

    @piticea

    8 жыл бұрын

    actually in europe apart from england where we use the metric system is is spelled meter ^^

  • @haku8645

    @haku8645

    7 жыл бұрын

    Except for French where it's metre, which is where the UK got the spelling from

  • @theamazedmaze4826

    @theamazedmaze4826

    5 жыл бұрын

    tbh you can spell it either way

  • @faust7756

    @faust7756

    5 жыл бұрын

    meter is the measuring device. metres the unit

  • @tstcikhthyss

    @tstcikhthyss

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theamazedmaze4826 You can't spell it either way. The BIPM officially spells the units as "metre" and "litre" and the prefix as "deca-" in the English language, so everyone must follow it. The Americans, being the pointlessly stubborn and rebellious people they are (I'm American btw), spell it incorrectly.

  • @williammaunder158
    @williammaunder15810 жыл бұрын

    whatever, any kind of paper still beats rock

  • @NocturnalPyro

    @NocturnalPyro

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not if said rock is a paperweight

  • @Digital111
    @Digital1118 жыл бұрын

    *METRIC SYSTEM* How much does one liter of Water weigh? *1* kilo At how many degrees does water boil? *100* C At how many degrees does water freeze? *0* C 1 meter *=* 100 Centimeters 1 kilometer *=* 100,000 centimeters *IMPERIAL SYSTEM* How much does a gallon of water weigh? *3.3454* pounds At how many degrees Fahrenheit does water boil? *212* F At how many degrees Fahrenheit does water freeze? *32* F 1 yard *=* 36 inches. 1 mile *=* 63,360 inches. *LETS GO ON A METRIC CRUSADE! CONVERT OR DIE!*

  • @jcnash02

    @jcnash02

    8 жыл бұрын

    A gallon of water weighs about 8.8 lbs.

  • @jesusthroughmary

    @jesusthroughmary

    8 жыл бұрын

    +jcnash02 8.3

  • @FactFinderGeneral

    @FactFinderGeneral

    8 жыл бұрын

    +AterCanusAlbus Honestly I wish we were at least taught Metric equally to Imperial. Science is all essentially in Metric and it's a huge hit for those of us trying to learn it later in life for science majors. I can easily estimate in inches and feet but say centimeters? A lot more difficult for me to envision since I didn't grow up with it. US needs to start converting but it will be difficult for industrial processes I think that rely on inches.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +AterCanusAlbus No amount of anything "weighs" 1 kilo, because kilo is just a prefix. Second of all, no amount of anything "weighs" 1 kilogram, because kilograms are a unit of mass, not weight. Third, there is no condition of water that has exactly a density of 1 kilogram/liter. You can tell that we intended this to be, but in reality, the drift of measurement errors in history makes it such that the maximum density of water is 999.9720 kg/m^3.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Joseph B. We are. Anyone who takes teaching measurement systems seriously, will teach you both. It is more a matter of what are you accustomed to using as a unit for thinking, than what units you know.

  • @Nixitur
    @Nixitur9 жыл бұрын

    Being able to half A4 to make two A5's is so incredibly useful when you're printing stuff and don't want to waste paper. After all, in a lot of cases, especially when what you're printing out is a projector presentation, you don't need the full font size to read it clearly. Being able to easily fit 2, 4 or even 8 pages on one side of paper is just so handy.

  • @sameash3153

    @sameash3153

    Жыл бұрын

    But that is also true of US paper. I don't understand this video, it's blatantly wrong, and a lot of comments are suggesting that only the metric papers scale up or down. Just as the A size papers are all halves of a much larger sheet, the letter paper is one fourth a sheet of E paper (34x44 inches). A case analogous to what you are talking about: to make two letter pages on one single sheet of paper, you just use 11x17 paper (size B paper), which, in landscape orientation produces 17x11, which, folded, produces 8.5x11. Likewise, a folio (a sheet folded once producing four pages) of letter paper ("A" paper) is equivalent to a quarto (a sheet folded twice producing eight pages) of tabloid paper (B paper). And an octavo of C paper produces 16 pages of letter paper in folio size. Yes, we have some nicknames for particular orientations, and we have some custom sizes for particular paper holders, but we use the exact same system of using fractions of a larger sheet of paper to get the standard piece of paper, it's not random or arbitrary at all.

  • @berndbrotify

    @berndbrotify

    2 ай бұрын

    First you say, that you don’t understand the video. That’s fine, and acknowledging that is a good start. But your conclusion isn’t „I should educate myself“ or „I should ask for an explanation“, your conclusion is, that the video must be „utterly wrong“. Sorry, but that’s not how the word works. Just because you don’t understand things, it doesn’t mean that they are wrong. Even though you don’t seem to be interested in understanding, let me try to explain it anyway: Of course you can put two letter sheets next to each other, to get a sheet twice the size. That will work with every size of paper, no matter what. But your new sheet doesn’t have the same aspect ratio. Letter has an aspect ratio of 1:1.29 whereas B has a ratio of 1:1.55, so if you have designed your poster to fit on a letter sheet, and you try to print it on B, you’ll either get a distorted image or a lot of white space on the top and bottom of the page. On the other hand, A3, A4, A5 and so on, all have the same aspect ratio, so you can use exactly the same design for a flyer (A5), a magazine (A4), a poster (A2) or a billboard (A0). That only works for the one specific aspect ratio, that the A-System uses, which is 1:square root of 2.

  • @BBCEarthScience
    @BBCEarthScience10 жыл бұрын

    Matt is right, A0 is one meter squared in area, but we got the graphics wrong! The A0 dimensions are 1189 X 841 mm or 46.8 X 33.1 inches! Sorry about that!

  • @NocturnalPyro

    @NocturnalPyro

    11 ай бұрын

    missing about 51m^2

  • @deathsheir2035
    @deathsheir20358 жыл бұрын

    I want A4 paper in America now.

  • @katiekawaii

    @katiekawaii

    8 жыл бұрын

    It's available, it's just "non-standard" here. You can buy it anywhere you can buy legal paper, and all printers have a setting for it.

  • @deathsheir2035

    @deathsheir2035

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** Well, then, I want it to be the standard.

  • @Stefan556

    @Stefan556

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Death's Heir It is already international standard. ISO 216.

  • @amigalemming

    @amigalemming

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Death's Heir You can just start using it now and show it to your friends. Don't wait for your government! :-)

  • @Kid_Convalescent

    @Kid_Convalescent

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Death's Heir Fight for change! Change that entire horrific system of yours to the metric system while your at it hahaha

  • @Zerepzerreitug
    @Zerepzerreitug10 жыл бұрын

    One of the fun things of living in Mexico is how we're stuck between metric and imperial. Our official system is metric, every single mexican uses meters, grams, liters, etc. _But_ the sizes of products, sheets, industrial materials, screws, holes, etc, are almost all in imperial D: I have no freaking idea why. It makes designing for industry really complex in here. So for instance, when Americans buy a sheet of wood to make a table, they usually buy a 4x8 feet sheet, and the table they build with it is also measured in feet or inches. All fine and good until there. But _here_ in Mexico, our sheets of wood are also made in imperial dimensions, yet our everyday use of said wood is with metric dimensions. So for me, a sheet of wood is not 4x8', instead, it is approximately 122x244 cm! (which is just one of many weird imperial/metric conversion numbers you literally have to memorize during school as a strange rite-of-passage to be able to work in manufacturing) Oh, and notice how I said _approximately_ ? That's where it gets fun. There's mountains of waste material when building _any_ product because the measurements for your product _never_ match up nicely with the measurements of your sheets of wood/metal/etc. So please 'merica. If you won't change your industry to metric for yourself, do it for us. It will make life _so_ much easier in here, south of El Rio Bravo

  • @persisto77

    @persisto77

    10 жыл бұрын

    In Europe the diameter of car wheels and tires are in inches, the width and height of tires in mm (no exceptions) Wood is sold in 4 x 8 feet (we're starting to see exceptions to that.)

  • @Liggliluff

    @Liggliluff

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@persisto77 Phone, computer and TV screens are inches too, and hard drive ( solid state drives size are measured by the har drive platter size. - I suggest people start using cm or mm, but people refuse to change over to metric. Even Europeans refuse to switch over to metric.

  • @persisto77

    @persisto77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Liggliluff I tried to point out the use of différent units on the same item.

  • @daniel-ino

    @daniel-ino

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@persisto77 Wood is sold in mm or cm in Euripe. Maybe you are talking about the UK?

  • @moy2010

    @moy2010

    Жыл бұрын

    It's because of your beligerant neighbor...

  • @inserthernamehere
    @inserthernamehere7 жыл бұрын

    I thought they switched the metre's basis to the speed of light?

  • @_helium_

    @_helium_

    7 жыл бұрын

    Geoffrey Lim they did

  • @fejfo6559

    @fejfo6559

    7 жыл бұрын

    how do they define one second then? halflife of something?

  • @michaelzopff8862

    @michaelzopff8862

    7 жыл бұрын

    fejfo's games It's based on the rate of decay of cesium 133 atoms.

  • @rikwisselink-bijker

    @rikwisselink-bijker

    7 жыл бұрын

    Actually not the rate of decay, but how fast the atoms 'vibrate'. And you are correct, the meter/metre started out as 1/40.000.000 the circumference of the earth. If I remember correctly, the length of a meter is currently defined as a specific number of wavelengths for light with a specific colour/frequency.

  • @jakedcruz7057

    @jakedcruz7057

    7 жыл бұрын

    1 meter: The length of the path traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. 1 second: The duration of 9192631770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyper fine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke77138 жыл бұрын

    You didn't even go into the magnificence of the B and C ISO series (they aren't very common outside of specific uses, but they're still usefull) The B series is the geometric mean between 2 of the A sizes such that B0 is 1m×sqrt(2)m B1 is ½sqrt(2)m×1m, B2 is 0.5m×½sqrt(2)m etc. they're often used for professional printing where they can then trimm off the excess, since a printer usually isn't able to print right up to the edges of a piece of paper. The C series is the geometric mean of the corresponding A and B size (i.e. C# is the geometric mean of A# and B#) which means that C# is slightly larger than A# which makes it an ideal envelope size for a piece of A# paper (or single folded A(#-1) paper), and B# is slightly larger than C# which makes B# a suitable envelope size to a piece of C# paper. C zises are therefore usually used for envelopes for the corresponding A size of paper (although they're often marketed with the A size they're intended for, but their actual measurements usually follow the C series)

  • @loicvanderwielen

    @loicvanderwielen

    7 жыл бұрын

    Actually, B can be defined simpler than that. B0 is actually 1m wide and keep the ratio sqrt(2).

  • @nienke7713

    @nienke7713

    7 жыл бұрын

    yeah, but that is simply the result of it being the geometric mean, which is the official definition

  • @loicvanderwielen

    @loicvanderwielen

    7 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know it was the official definition. I assume it makes more sense, in terms of regulations to define a standard based on an other one. Thanks for the information.

  • @nienke7713

    @nienke7713

    7 жыл бұрын

    no problem :)

  • @PeterAuto1

    @PeterAuto1

    5 жыл бұрын

    In Japan B5 is pretty popular

  • @Suxorixorage
    @Suxorixorage10 жыл бұрын

    never did I think I could be so entertained by a video about paper.

  • @dannkettle4106
    @dannkettle410610 жыл бұрын

    I have a whole new appreciation for A4 paper sizes

  • @ShinyRayquazza
    @ShinyRayquazza8 жыл бұрын

    Americans... how do they work?

  • @the1exnay

    @the1exnay

    7 жыл бұрын

    By almost always using the same sized paper. Do yall really switch paper sizes that often? And when you need a bigger paper do you really always need it to be twice as big? Or when you need it smaller do you always need it half as big? If you want something half as big are you incapable of cutting it in half and instead must buy sheets that are precut in half? But really it's just by always using letter sized cause we dont need anything different. I will admit the ratio of your papers sounds better,

  • @rewrose2838

    @rewrose2838

    7 жыл бұрын

    I highly doubt any American would know all of the units shown in the video and their relation to each other, both the systems of units were developed in different circumstances - one was devised by mathematicians and researchers for their use and the other by businessmen and industrialists and the royalties for their professional usage~

  • @HotelPapa100

    @HotelPapa100

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Rew Rose: You make it sound as if the customary system were designed. And if it were more practical for business use. It wasn't, and it is just because it is "customary" in your culture. It is a hodgepodge of units that made sense when they were devised (nothing wrong with a carpenter using his thumb for taking rough measurements.) Which made a lot less sense once they were unified across trade systems, and which are downright ridiculous once you go into the field of engineering and even trade, when you have to do calculations with them. It is correct that all units are arbitrary to a degree. If you just have to measure, there is no big advantage either way. But as soon as you start to combine things, to use derived units, it is a whole lot more sensible to use a system that is designed from the gorund up.

  • @HotelPapa100

    @HotelPapa100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Firaro+ I started in the professional field as a draughtsman. We used all paper sizes from A4 to A0. That definitely made life a whole lot easier.But Europe is not really that standardised when it comes to stationery and printed matter. Just take a look into any bookshelf...

  • @joshuahadams

    @joshuahadams

    5 жыл бұрын

    Duct tape and dreams.

  • @TheBlueToad
    @TheBlueToad10 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how America mocks the rest of the world but when we mock the Americans they flip out!

  • @jimtuv

    @jimtuv

    10 жыл бұрын

    We flip out because we are so rational you know. We used our rationality to vote in George Bush 43. We also for the most part deny evolution and want to teach creationism in our schools to insure the future rational ideas of our generation (wink wink). We drive on the correct side of the road and use the most up to date measurement system (imperial units). We usually wait for a war to be half finished before jumping in and claiming total victory (ie WWII) Yes we Americans are way more rational then those in the rest of the planet. I just wish we could see how silly we really are. We do need to be able to laugh at ourselves from time to time. And as an American I can definitely see the joke.

  • @Xatzimi

    @Xatzimi

    10 жыл бұрын

    James Tuvell Actually, Americans do drive on the correct side of the road. Much of the world and most all of Europe drives on the right side, like America.

  • @Xatzimi

    @Xatzimi

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** Like Always.

  • @viralpatelify

    @viralpatelify

    10 жыл бұрын

    X-Zaaevyer Xatzimi That doesn't make it the CORRECT side. Actually there is no correct side but the right side of driving was an act of revolution against Britain and somehow the most of the world started following that.

  • @saraleahsands4389

    @saraleahsands4389

    10 жыл бұрын

    viralpatelify Originally when most travel was done on horseback people tended to ride on the left side to keep the sword arm in an advantageous position in case the person passing you suddenly decided to attack. I guess they are still wary of driveby shootings since they decided to put the steering wheel on the right side of the car. To fortify this theory further, UK and Australia both removed peoples right to own firearms so there must have been a substantial amount of driveby shootings which they decided to keep under wraps to avoid losing tourist income.

  • @darkelf2x1
    @darkelf2x110 жыл бұрын

    The difference between tabloid and ledger is the grain of the paper. Almost every type of paper has a specific grain, usually, parallel to the longest dimension. The grain of the paper can influence its behavior; for example, paper that is folded with the grain has a smoother crease and is less prone to cracking than paper that is folded against the grain.

  • @DigitalicaEG
    @DigitalicaEG5 жыл бұрын

    I need to get a ledger compatible printer, mine only prints tabloid

  • @JakeDavidHarrison
    @JakeDavidHarrison9 жыл бұрын

    1:00 Why is the A0 show as being 1m x 1m, this is incorrect.

  • @JorgetePanete

    @JorgetePanete

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jake Harrison you forgot the question mark

  • @nextlifeonearth

    @nextlifeonearth

    6 жыл бұрын

    To indicate it's 1 m^2. Though writing those measurements wrongly is quite misleading.

  • @Federico84
    @Federico8410 жыл бұрын

    what happens if a us citizen write to his government using a paper of the size of a us letter?

  • @Gladix777

    @Gladix777

    10 жыл бұрын

    Whole world explodes.

  • @atiseru

    @atiseru

    9 жыл бұрын

    black hole

  • @jmitterii2

    @jmitterii2

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nothing. People write whatever paper. Its mostly for official work. But it really doesn't matter.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tecnovlog It probably goes in the circular file.

  • @SilverWave64
    @SilverWave6410 жыл бұрын

    Why does America not use the metric system? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use in science, etc.?

  • @Gladix777

    @Gladix777

    10 жыл бұрын

    It would be easier everywhere. But I reckon they like to use, 45 different units with different sizes, all arbitrary amount of distance from each other, used in random professions. Instead of 10 set the same distance from each other and used in every profession.

  • @russellthorburn9297

    @russellthorburn9297

    9 жыл бұрын

    Actually the U.S.A. does use the metric system. You'd be hard pressed to find an engineer or scientist that performs their calculations using the imperial system. In general, it's really only the general public that uses the imperial system in the U.S.A..

  • @AxelFerreira1

    @AxelFerreira1

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** That is true, the thing is... Why isn't it taut in school?

  • @russellthorburn9297

    @russellthorburn9297

    9 жыл бұрын

    It is taught in schools but it's hard for kids to keep it in their heads when the imperial system is used exclusively in daily life. The only way is for it to be a political mandate like Canada.

  • @criticismbecauseitisfun7019

    @criticismbecauseitisfun7019

    9 жыл бұрын

    Its because Americans like Barley Corn

  • @MCRogueHaven
    @MCRogueHaven10 жыл бұрын

    I work at a government supply store, and I was wondering where 8 1/2 x 11 had come from. I noticed a weird pattern by weight with the paper. First, they come in reams of 500 at 7.5 grams per square meter. So one ream is just shy of 5 pounds. These reams of paper come in cases of ten, making a case weigh about 50 pounds when you factor in the cardboard case and the paper sealing each ream. These cases, then, are shipped on palettes of 40, meaning one palette of of this paper weighs one ton. I was rambling on to one of my coworkers about paper for half an hour supposing that perhaps the origin of the odd 8.5'" x 11'" standard was actually derived from shipping the paper by tonnes, which could be broken down into all those other nice, neat numbers.

  • @diceman199

    @diceman199

    10 жыл бұрын

    That would also depend on the weight of the paper. All reams are 500 sheets but the g/M2 varies so thicker paper would be more than your 5lb...I tend to use 10 to 12g/M2 paper myself.

  • @Solitaire001

    @Solitaire001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diceman199 With U. S. paper, pounds refers to the weight of four reams of U. S. letter-sized paper (four reams of 20 pound paper will weigh 20 pounds). I prefer to use 24 pound paper myself.

  • @diceman199

    @diceman199

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Solitaire001 You’ve got that switched round. The pound predates letter sized paper. It’s the weight of the paper which is defined by the pound not the pound that is defined by the paper.

  • @mikelastname1220

    @mikelastname1220

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why do Americans use 81/2" X 11" letter size paper? Here is the history: Early paper makers dipped wooden framed screens, or molds, of various sizes into vats of water and pulp. These “vat men” would then heave them back out - all by hand - and once they’d left them to dry, they’d end up with two large sheets of paper. One of the common sizes that came about, according to industry folklore, was a size that was about 44 inches wide,” said Mark Pitts, the association’s executive director of printing-writing, pulp and tissue. Cut that 44 inches in half, twice, and you end up with paper 11 inches long. Some of the original paper making molds live on at the Robert C Williams Museum of Paper making at Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. They carry evidence of the paper maker’s outstretched grip in the form of wear on the wooden sides, which are often reinforced with copper. You can just imagine 30 or 40 years of somebody using the same tool everyday, and how it’s really formed to fit their hands by that point. As offices became increasingly mechanized with the introduction of the typewriter, photocopier and printer, the need for paper at a fixed size grew, and 8.5 x 11 inches became standard “letter” paper. In reality, it was the Dutch who came up with the 44" sheets of paper over 400 years ago. They determined that the best "cut" would be the 8.5 x 11 inches for writing paper. Old habits die hard!!!

  • @albertdandl
    @albertdandl10 жыл бұрын

    I love this movie as well as the explanation about the imperial measurement. One small thing to correct: A0 is not 1 by 1 meter but 1 square meter. the ratio of all DIN A- paper sizes is always the same 2 : sqrt(2). regards Albert

  • @dunka12

    @dunka12

    10 жыл бұрын

    you know that 1 square meter is a square of 1 meter by 1 meter...right?

  • @albertdandl

    @albertdandl

    10 жыл бұрын

    sure, but 1 square meter can also be 0.5 meter by 2 meter :) - right?

  • @dunka12

    @dunka12

    10 жыл бұрын

    Albert Dandl no, because in mathematics, a square is a square. That's why we have fancy words like rectangles.

  • @albertdandl

    @albertdandl

    10 жыл бұрын

    looks like I cannot compete with your logic :). On my planet the area of ANY object is measured in square meters (even if it is not a square) :)

  • @dunka12

    @dunka12

    10 жыл бұрын

    Albert Dandl just trolling you, don't stress so much :). I wanted to continue, but you sound like a smart polite guy, so it's not funny anymore. I have a day off, and i'm a bit bored. Please don't take it personally...i'm off to drawing the whole day. :D

  • @lets_architecture
    @lets_architecture3 жыл бұрын

    "Pulled out of their ASSumption" LOL

  • @BBCEarthScience
    @BBCEarthScience10 жыл бұрын

    More on imperial units next week! Stay tuned...

  • @GaryvanderMerwe
    @GaryvanderMerwe8 жыл бұрын

    Rather than using the term "A4" to describe the whole series, Matt should rather use the name of the standard: "ISO 216"

  • @MAlanThomasII
    @MAlanThomasII9 жыл бұрын

    You forgot that Ledger is exactly two Letter, which is nice if you're planning to fold it over into a familiar-sized booklet (or, similarly, have a magazine or book in good old letter-size-actually, usually 10.5 x 8 or thereabouts to account for margins and cutting-and want to copy a two-page spread). I admit that this is a benefit of the A system as well, but you shouldn't pretend it doesn't exist in the American system. Also, you forgot the B and C scales, which are geometric.

  • @mlangley7019
    @mlangley701910 жыл бұрын

    The Meter was originally supposed to be 1/10,000,000 if the distance from the North Pole to the Equator. It was painstakingly measured out by hand from the North of France to the Spanish Mediterranean over many years spanning the time of the French Revolution, (which complicated matters). At that time it was thought the Earth was a perect sphere. What is truly remarkable is how close they got. There is a book called "The Measure of All Things" which is really quite fascinating.

  • @EarendilTheMariner
    @EarendilTheMariner2 жыл бұрын

    The beauty of the metric system is that multiplying or dividing by units of 10 is just a matter of moving the decimal one place. If you multiply by 10, move it one place to the right (27.9 x 10 = 279). If you divide by 10, move it one place to the left (279/10 = 27.9).

  • @stensoft
    @stensoft8 жыл бұрын

    There are also B sizes which are exactly the same as A sizes, only bigger. Americans should adopt those. (Technical: A0 is 1 m², B0 is 1 metre wide. They both have √2 ratio and B0 has the same ratio to A0 as A0 to B1, B1 to A1 etc. There are also C sizes which are geometric mean between A and B.)

  • @ihategoogle2382

    @ihategoogle2382

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jan Sten Adámek Why should they adopt these rather than the A series? I know they're equally good, but since the A series is the most speard around the world, why not use it?

  • @LaPingvino

    @LaPingvino

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Ihategoogle+ I believe usually envelopes use C-sizes to properly fit the A paper sizes ;)

  • @stensoft

    @stensoft

    8 жыл бұрын

    Ihategoogle+ Because they are bigger and Americans like bigger :-)

  • @stensoft

    @stensoft

    8 жыл бұрын

    Joop Kiefte No, envelopes use special size called DL which is slightly larger than A4 folded into thirds

  • @LaPingvino

    @LaPingvino

    8 жыл бұрын

    those too, but we have lots of envelope sizes ;) afaik full size(!) A4 document envelopes are usually C4.

  • @Trunkerad
    @Trunkerad10 жыл бұрын

    The picture at 1:02 is wrong. While the area of the A0 is 1 m² as you say, it is not 1 m by 1 m in form as shown. The ratio between the edge lengths is always 1:√2 for A sizes, as you point out later.

  • @misilva.bordados
    @misilva.bordados10 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant! I could never imagine such things! Thanks so much Head Squeeze people!!

  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_19863 жыл бұрын

    I love how Matt at 1:19 is like "oh shit..." right before he starts talking about the American paper scales.

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune9 жыл бұрын

    How can you claim it's the only rational size when it's based on an irrational number?

  • @Reydriel

    @Reydriel

    8 жыл бұрын

    It's a play on words, making fun of the fact that the word "rational" and "irrational" have multiple meanings :)

  • @xavtek
    @xavtek10 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that! Very instructive (even with the error on the 1x1 sheet). I am 32 and this was explained to me in school when I was 11. Never questioned that system and it helped me so much since!

  • @gentlemaningreen
    @gentlemaningreen10 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful seeing someone getting so worked up over such an obscure topic. And backing it up with science too.

  • @munjee2
    @munjee28 ай бұрын

    It's nice to be here on the exact 10 year anniversary of this legendary video!

  • @munjee2

    @munjee2

    8 ай бұрын

    I guess now I have to do this for the sequel

  • @spokehedz
    @spokehedz10 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks for the Inch and Foot measurements--both standardized by the British when they went upon trying to make the world their own. We are just keeping the tradition alive. You are welcome!

  • @Supertomiman

    @Supertomiman

    10 жыл бұрын

    it still sucks, keep up with the times

  • @spokehedz

    @spokehedz

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** They still take tea at 4pm every day. TRADITION!

  • @Supertomiman

    @Supertomiman

    10 жыл бұрын

    umm I don't know what you mean by that, I'm neither British nor American. I've got no dog in this fight, I simply support what works, and the metric system is clearly superior and way more organized.

  • @spokehedz

    @spokehedz

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** I know. But, tradition. It's like weasle stomping day. You just can't stop it just because it doesn't work, or it is unorganized.

  • @Supertomiman

    @Supertomiman

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** nonesense, how do you think the metric system got so popular in the first place? why by stomping out traditional systems of course! every single country back in the day used to have it's own system of measurements, so they had to keep converting between Spanish, German, Russian, etc. measurements at ports, it sucked. BTW, where do you have weasle stomping day? sounds fantastic!

  • @p0wertiger
    @p0wertiger10 жыл бұрын

    According to Wikipedia, you don't enumerate sizes above A0 as A-1, but 2A0, 4A0 and so on

  • @gauriblomeyer1835
    @gauriblomeyer18352 жыл бұрын

    The DIN A 4 letterhead size was invented by a French mathematician a few hundred years ago who found out that the sizes remain the same in ratio if you double the paper or making half of it. There is a funny incident when there was an international competition for building a huge house for an international Organisation in Berlin. Teams of the great architects came to the judging place and presented their plans, in a size of DIN A0 ( = 33 1/8 x. 46 19/24 in); the American team came with their huge plan carried by two men. The French team just took a thick folder with the normal size DIN A 4 and folded their plan from doubling the DIN A4 four times bringing the same size as the one of their American colleagues. The American won the competition and from this moment on adopted the DIN size system. It is to my German view amazing that the American/ English measurements are kept ( troy ounce for sterling silver cutlery) despite the more practical French systems of gram, kilogram, mm, meter and km.

  • @eymaslacker
    @eymaslacker10 жыл бұрын

    I laughed while nodding along with the points raised in the video. This is not only informative but entertaining :)

  • @scalporf
    @scalporf10 жыл бұрын

    That's awfully condescending from someone who thinks that a piece of paper with an area of one square meter must therefore be a square, one meter on a side. And who apparently thinks 219 mm is some sort of power-of-two fraction of one meter. Also, while the meter was initially defined as a fraction of the circumference of the earth, the measurement was screwed up, and it was off by far more than the error margin of surveying techniques even at the time. So, no, the meter isn't any less arbitrary than any other measurement unit (it's actually defined as how far light goes in a vacuum in one over two hundred ninety-nine million and some seconds).

  • @Gladix777

    @Gladix777

    10 жыл бұрын

    It isnt. The size is arbitrary, but we chose the size based on one valid fact that makes sense. At least its a nice round number. In US the size is even more arbitrary. But thats the fault of messed up Imperial system. Those are just arbitrary numbers called by Arbitrary names, literally unusable in most professions that are using a precise, or many measurements.

  • @lbzimmerman96
    @lbzimmerman9610 жыл бұрын

    If it helps, Americans hate the Imperial system too. You think we like having to try and find 458/599 of an inch?

  • @CJTheReal

    @CJTheReal

    10 жыл бұрын

    The youtube comments I'm reading say: "Yes, absolutely. And we will violently disagree with any disparaging opinions."

  • @mildreddabreo3505
    @mildreddabreo35056 жыл бұрын

    The ratio of the paper sizes also led to the change in technical drawing pen point sizes. From the initial 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1.0 they were changed to .15, 0.25, 0.35, 0.5, 0.7 and 1.0 which allowed a photocopy or printout made optimised for paper size ratio to be manually edited using the next pen size since they pen sizes were based on the same ratio

  • @xBris
    @xBris10 жыл бұрын

    Best rant on paper sizes I've ever heard. Well, might be the only rant I've ever heard on paper sizes, but still, this was brilliant ^^

  • @MichaelJones23
    @MichaelJones2310 жыл бұрын

    One meter is the distance light travels in1/299792458 of a second. This is a perfect definition.

  • @PerMejdal
    @PerMejdal10 жыл бұрын

    It would be nice to see the same support for ISO 8601 - The standard to represent dates as YYYY-MM-DD. /Insincerely IT people everywhere.

  • @fastertove

    @fastertove

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know that is makes sorting by dates easier, but it also has the disadvantage that it shows the least important info first. DD-MM /DD-MM-YYYY ftw :-)

  • @theamazedmaze4826

    @theamazedmaze4826

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fastertove at least both of those go in order... MM/DD/YYYY doesn't make sense.

  • @fastertove

    @fastertove

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theamazedmaze4826 Yes, MM/DD/YYYY doesn't seem to make any sence.

  • @demoniack81

    @demoniack81

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@fastertove YYYYMMDD (with no dashes) makes it possible to fit dates in a number column and it makes it really easy to do computations and comparisons with them without having to use dedicated functions. If I need to check if a date is in march 2018, all I have to do is check if it's > 20180300 and If need to extract the year from a date I can just do an integer division by 10,000 and there it is. Need the month? mod(date,10000)/100. The day is just mod(date, 100). Non-programmers understandably don't give a shit about this though so it'll never happen outside of our databases.

  • @fghsgh

    @fghsgh

    Ай бұрын

    i would be okay with DD/MM/YYYY if some people weren't using MM/DD/YYYY. way too much ambiguity so i use YYYY-MM-DD, i know for sure it won't get misinterpreted, and i can't misinterpret someone else's either

  • @n0ame1u1
    @n0ame1u17 жыл бұрын

    Well actually, you can either have a paper size defined by the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 seconds, or a paper size defined by the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/11,802,852,677.2 seconds

  • @mike4ty4

    @mike4ty4

    6 жыл бұрын

    If we were to re-build the metric system today, it would make more sense to set the meter so that c = 300,000,000 m/s exactly, or perhaps even c = 100,000,000 m/s. Actually more than that, we'd make the second equal to 1/100,000 of a day instead of 1/86,400 since 100,000 coheres with the 10-scale of the system (and then turn that into something more fixed by converting it to cesium sneezes.) and thus makes a day easily fit in with prefix multiples of the second. This "meter" would then be ~2.6 old meters. Well, that seems rather long, so perhaps we should make c = 500,000,000 new-m/new-s, a simple decimal factor, and then a new "meter" is ~0.5 old meters. And then a "new" A0 would be about an existing A2 (a bit bigger though) and existing A4 would be best substituted with a "new" A2.

  • @the_chalkface
    @the_chalkface10 жыл бұрын

    I am loving this - keep it up! The follow-up on imperial units is fantastic - using that next time I teach units of measurement.

  • @garymalarkey4626
    @garymalarkey462610 жыл бұрын

    This doesn't cover American ANSI or ARCH sizes, which I deal with every day. ANSI C, D, and E are 17"x22", 22"x34", and 34"x44" respectfully. Then we have ARCH B through E1 which range from 12"x18" through 30"x42", sort of, since E is actually bigger than E1 at 36"x48". Anyway, these are mainly for architectural drawings and almost nobody uses the official sheet names and just says "I need these printed at 24 by 36 please."

  • @deslomator
    @deslomator8 жыл бұрын

    A34: homeopathic paper!

  • @Titanius1066
    @Titanius10667 жыл бұрын

    I tried to care about this but there are so many other, more important things in life. Thank god we have KZread so people can rant about paper sizes that basically have no effect on the life of the average person. If you live in the US you use inches, feet, yards, etc...the rest of the world uses the metric system. Life still amazingly goes on. How wonderful.

  • @jmitterii2
    @jmitterii29 жыл бұрын

    At least I now know why its always a pain to get the right aspect ratio right when putting pictures and diagrams in my papers in the US. Having to tweak it here and there to make it less goofy squished or stretched.

  • @boehrb
    @boehrb10 жыл бұрын

    We Canadians transitioned to the metric system in the 60s but have yet to adopt the A4 paper size convention. For shame.

  • @rcallicotte
    @rcallicotte10 жыл бұрын

    Metric really is far superior to Imperial/US standard. The A4 paper size is actually closer to the golden ratio as well. :D

  • @the_jawker
    @the_jawker5 ай бұрын

    still slaps 10 years later, gotta love matt

  • @SStefanovski
    @SStefanovski7 жыл бұрын

    The drawing of the A0 paper at 1:05 had me confused, it's drawn as 1x1m which wasn't consistent with what Mat was saying but then I played it back and noticed that he never said it was 1x1m, just that it was 1m squared in area, which is true, it's actually 841 x 1189 mm ≈ 1m^2. The drawing is a blunder by the graphics department.

  • @HollywoodF1
    @HollywoodF17 жыл бұрын

    I wrote a letter to Apple trying to get them to put the iPhone and iPad on the root-two system. I figured the iPad screen could be evenly split that way. No response.

  • @josiahsweinhagen3240

    @josiahsweinhagen3240

    7 жыл бұрын

    You would have an irrational (literally) number of pixels. Even with rounding, it would be way more difficult to deal with. Some screens would have different numbers of pixels depending on how large the ratio is

  • @HollywoodF1

    @HollywoodF1

    7 жыл бұрын

    An iPad right now is 1536x2048. For a root-two ratio, how about 1632x2308? That's root-two within 0.00015%. A screen half the size could be 816x1154 with the same root-two precision. That works great! They have even numbers of rows and columns, and super neglegible rounding error. Let's do it!

  • @HollywoodF1

    @HollywoodF1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Cascio Here is the usefulness--You can do this trick with landscape or portrait, but say that you're holding an iPad in portrait, and you want to open two applications. Turn it sideways, and two protrait applications can be displayed side-by-side with no adjustment to the formatting. This is uniquely possible with root-two proportioning. Try being less of a dick and just have a discussion. The half-a-brain comment was uncalled for.

  • @HollywoodF1

    @HollywoodF1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Cascio No, what I described is absolutely unique to root-2 rectangles. It doesn't work for Golden Section rectangles, or any other proportion.

  • @djjthegoose

    @djjthegoose

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's because Apple is an Us company they don't like other ideas even when there better

  • @Jeff121456
    @Jeff1214568 жыл бұрын

    It is not easy being an American sometimes. I suffer from too many inches and pounds. If only I had metres and grams. All I can do is bitch. If I ask for something in a metric format they look at me like I'm crazy. So I live with it. How many probes to we have to crash into Mars before we change?

  • @LovSven2011
    @LovSven20118 жыл бұрын

    About the ratio of square root of two being optimal for paper sizes AT 9:20: "And that's why the A paper scale is the only RATIONAL IRATIONAL choice when it comes to paper sizes." -- -- -- --Most excellent quote and the whole video. (y)

  • @wimeatsworld
    @wimeatsworld7 жыл бұрын

    Finally got all my paper ratio related questions answered. Today was a good day.

  • @persisto77
    @persisto7710 жыл бұрын

    This is all for ecological reasons: Americans will almost never make an enlarged or reduced copies. (The function is rarely used on copy machines) European do all the time.

  • @Tentin.Quarantino
    @Tentin.Quarantino6 жыл бұрын

    0:21 is root 2 rational now? Guessing it’s not exactly those measurements. I think we have a case of Parker A4 paper Sorry for trolling, always a fan of Matt’s content

  • @garyjones7403
    @garyjones740310 жыл бұрын

    If anyone's wondering where the sqrt(2) comes from... Take a piece of paper of length x on the long side and y on the short side. When two of these pieces are placed next to each other so the long sides are butted against each other, the result is a piece of paper 2y on the longer side and x on the shorter side. The aspect ratio of this new twice-as-big piece of paper must be the same as that of the original single piece i.e. x/y = 2y/x. A little bit of algebra leads to x=sqrt(2) y.

  • @flyingfiddler90q
    @flyingfiddler90q8 жыл бұрын

    It's worth noting that the definition related the meter (metre) to the size of the planet was invented afterwards to make it seem more logical. The original definition was that a meter was exactly as long as the meter rod. As far as I've ever heard its length was arbitrary, and the circumference of the earth was later divided in such a way as to as closely match the meter rod as possible.

  • @saschagallardo8980

    @saschagallardo8980

    8 жыл бұрын

    +flyingfiddler Nope, The meter rod was made after this definition: 1⁄10,000,000 part of one half of a meridian, measurement by Delambre and Méchain.

  • @Redactedredacted5837
    @Redactedredacted58378 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we should base length measurements off of the atomic diameter of the first truly stable non-radioactive synthetic man-made transuranium super-heavy element.

  • @davidm.johnston8994

    @davidm.johnston8994

    8 жыл бұрын

    If you check out the current definition of a meter, it's defined as the distance traveled by light in a particular fraction of a second (which is why light travels an integer number of meters per second), and the second is defined according to the radiation of a particular type of cesium. I'm not being precise here so if you're interested look it up on Wikipedia.

  • @gregdesouza17

    @gregdesouza17

    7 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't be precise because of Uncertainty Principle.

  • @moscanaveia

    @moscanaveia

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@gregdesouza17 The uncertainty principle has no stakes on the functioning of atomic clocks. Cesium-133 emits radiation at a defined and precise frequency, and it is that frequency which is used to time the clocks and thus define the basic second. That frequency has no specific or intrinsic uncertainty, and our own measurement instruments are capable of using this frequency to determine the second with an uncertainty of 10^-16

  • @SamZZZZZ526
    @SamZZZZZ5269 жыл бұрын

    If A-1 is invalid notation, how would we express it in valid notation?

  • @MaxwellStarr
    @MaxwellStarr7 жыл бұрын

    Ledger/Tabloid is 2x Letter Side-by side. Likewise, 1/2 Letter size is Statement.

  • @OrigiName
    @OrigiName Жыл бұрын

    The best part of metric is that the ratio of the edges are perfectly maintained when moving between sizes, creating a perfectly sizable graphic.

  • @222Randomness222
    @222Randomness2228 жыл бұрын

    So, what your saying is, you either have options for the dimensions of your paper you use, or your stuck making everything you do the same ratio?

  • @theamazedmaze4826

    @theamazedmaze4826

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ok, so what stops you from cutting the paper?

  • @Freakschwimmer
    @Freakschwimmer9 жыл бұрын

    8:55 that graphic is wrong as well... And Matt even says at that very moment "If you put any two together you get the next size up" Appears that neither the animator knew what he was doing nor did he even listen to what he was animating... Epic fail

  • @Stewpacc

    @Stewpacc

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Freakschwimmer The only epic fail here is that you don't actually understand what the graphic was showing.

  • @Freakschwimmer

    @Freakschwimmer

    8 жыл бұрын

    Stewpac, so in your mind A4 and A3 are one and the same thing? Gosh, your parents must have dropped you numerous times!

  • @Stewpacc

    @Stewpacc

    8 жыл бұрын

    No? The dotted line includes the original A4 piece of paper in it. To me, the graphic clearly shows that the A3 piece of paper is the A4 piece of paper plus the dotted line and the A2 is the entire thing.

  • @Freakschwimmer

    @Freakschwimmer

    8 жыл бұрын

    Stewpac, I've never looked at it that way :/ But that makes sense, ty

  • @Stewpacc

    @Stewpacc

    8 жыл бұрын

    No worries

  • @kamo7293
    @kamo72938 жыл бұрын

    someone took that out of their ASSumption. nice wordplay

  • @Rockario
    @Rockario8 жыл бұрын

    Glad I finally know how the A4 paper scale works, and it's always fun to hear the little reasons that one system is different/better than the other. I get the feeling that it's beside the point for a video like this, but the talk about only having one aspect ratio was a bit dumb. Not everything we put on paper needs to be scaled to fit the entire sheet.

  • @StephenMorganCanada
    @StephenMorganCanada10 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, the Number guy didn't notice that Tabloid paper is double Letter?

  • @heavyvideo445

    @heavyvideo445

    9 жыл бұрын

    That's good, but the rest of the papers don't follow this constant ratio.

  • @haku8645

    @haku8645

    9 жыл бұрын

    Stephen Morgan It is double the size, but Letter and Tabloid have different aspect ratios, which means it doesn't fulfil the role that A4 and A3 do. For example, here in Europe, all photocopiers will typically have buttons on them that say [A4->A3] and [A3->A4]. At university, I could get an academic article where each page is A4, and open it up and photocopy two pages at a time (two pages of A4 next to each other is A3). I can hit the [A3->A4] button and everything is automatically reduced to fit perfectly on a sheet of A4 without any stretching, distorting or cropping. This is particularly useful if there are any charts or images. With the US paper sizes, starting with letter, the short side is doubled each time you go up a step, which means that the aspect ratios alternate. Therefore, 8.5x11 actually has the same aspect ratio as 17x22, but not 11x17. So you could conceivably scale up and down with no distortions or cropping, but you have to skip up or down two paper sizes because of the alternating aspect ratios. And with the Government, Legal and Junior Legal sizes, those are completely arbitrary and don't fit into the system at all.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Stephen Morgan Right, but if you take something that was originally on tabloid size, and scale it to fit on letter size, it no longer fits with the same aspect ratio. Two of the margins will be different than the other two margins. With the A0-A1-A3-A4 system of paper, no matter what size paper your content started, if you print it on a smaller size in this system, its aspect ratio will be preserved.

  • @michaelzopff8862
    @michaelzopff88627 жыл бұрын

    I want a system based on the Fibonacci sequence so that it uses the golden ratio. Then all of my paper will be golden rectangles!

  • @JackHawkin5
    @JackHawkin510 жыл бұрын

    I want to see more of this presenter. He's fantastic! Waaaay better than the other two. As good a quality as James May.

  • @jaroslavcharvat5171
    @jaroslavcharvat51715 ай бұрын

    I love it how the A4 system (Europe and everywhere else I would assume) and the letter system (the US) seemingly looks both crazy and out of any decimal systems, either having nothing to do with metric or imperial, yet once again the A4 is logical and the letter is American.

  • @PeterAntoniac
    @PeterAntoniac9 жыл бұрын

    Finally! A good argumentation about how Letter size paper sucks!

  • @olgab2646

    @olgab2646

    9 жыл бұрын

    Haha! Really good one! I like how he warms up to the subject ;-)

  • @PeterAntoniac

    @PeterAntoniac

    9 жыл бұрын

    He he, he is popular

  • @dyld921
    @dyld92110 жыл бұрын

    Well, the current definition of the meter is: 1 m = 1/299,792,458 the distance light travels in a vacuum in a second. This is because the speed of light is defined to be EXACTLY 299,792,458 m/s. Why? I have no idea.

  • @BoogsterSU2

    @BoogsterSU2

    10 жыл бұрын

    We all round it off to 300,000 m/s as an estimate.

  • @dyld921

    @dyld921

    10 жыл бұрын

    You mean 300,000,000 m/s. And what's your point?

  • @Gladix777

    @Gladix777

    10 жыл бұрын

    Because its the best possible most precise measurement we currently have of unit whic is derived from centimeter. In metrics One mililiter of water you can shove in one cubic centimeter, weights one gram, requires one calorie of energy to heat by one degree centigrade, which is 1 per cent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. Add 2 zeroes behind one and you have definition for meter. Funny definition from one of books I'm reading. Not entirely accurate, but you got what I mean.

  • @dyld921

    @dyld921

    9 жыл бұрын

    Read the whole sentence. 1 meter is 1/299,792,458 of the distance that light travels in one second in a vacuum.

  • @dyld921

    @dyld921

    9 жыл бұрын

    No. We use the speed of light as a reference because it's always constant. Light always travels in the same speed in a vacuum. Therefore, the distance it travels in one second is always the same. That way, the length of a meter will never change. Your walking speed, however, will vary so we can't use that.

  • @nicolekaplan9639
    @nicolekaplan963910 жыл бұрын

    You are so good with your speach . Really amazing. I had to hear until the end

  • @XXISerenaIXX
    @XXISerenaIXX7 жыл бұрын

    "Junior Legal, that's what you use when suing a child." I laughed way too hard at this.

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune9 жыл бұрын

    ROUND barley, not SPHERICAL. Not big on geometry, are we? lol

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jim Fortune A meter is not a 40 millionth the circumference of the Earth. A meter is the distance that light travels in 1/299792458th of a second.

  • @JimFortune

    @JimFortune

    8 жыл бұрын

    carultch The meter was originally defined as 1/10^7 the distance from the North Pole to the equator on a line through Paris. It was redefined more precisely as a multiple of wavelengths of a particular frequency of light. And what has any of that to do with my comment?

  • @JimFortune

    @JimFortune

    8 жыл бұрын

    CBTrigger1337 Where have I heard that before?

  • @mysteryshrimp
    @mysteryshrimp8 жыл бұрын

    3:29 "Round" and "spherical" are not the same thing. A round (i.e. not malformed) barley corn is a fairly standard size and was extremely common. Practically anyone would have barley just lying around the cave. It was a reasonable way to make sure that the consumer and the merchant or the tax assessor and the freeman were on the same page and no one was getting cheated. I work with barley every day. There is no better common natural thing to define a small unit of measure by. Barley was available to everyone, while the platinum rod, the wavelength of light. and the circumference of the earth are not. I have to trust that my meter is the same as yours, because I can't compare my meter to the standard. I can, however, use barley to define an inch, an inch to define a foot, a foot to define a furlong, and so on. When all measuring devices were handmade, it was a very good idea to be able to check them against the natural world. Now that I can use a laser beam to determine how many millionths of a meter I am from the opposite wall, it might be time to go with the slightly less arbitrary, quite a bit more user-friendly Metric system. Or go to dozenal. That would also work.

  • @TimJSwan
    @TimJSwan8 жыл бұрын

    5:53 "Doesn't sound like freedom to me."

  • @zxb995511
    @zxb99551110 жыл бұрын

    I think using seed grain to measure paper sizes is.....BRILLIANT!

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