All I understood from this video is that the Pope is a Sin Archbishop, Natsuki Kenichi is actually Pandora, and that the Editor's great.

@sarahlachman1349

6 ай бұрын

LOL

Flugel once had ALL of the Witch Factors, 400 years later they were divided among the Sin Arcbishops, then Came SUBARU someone who can absorb them, so if Pandora's plan is to Reborn Flugel then maybe through Subaru she may be able to do it.

@natsumi9140

2 жыл бұрын

Make Sense

Taipei is pandora, that is why pandora can just rewrite reality since the author is backing her or is her.

@user-tg4cu6ub5z

3 жыл бұрын

AHAHA

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know who Taipei is, but sure. Is that some kind Thai food? XD

@Adam-TheLiftedKing

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 he’s the author of the mangas the anime is heavily based on

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-TheLiftedKing Um... the Anime is based on the Light Novel series of Re:Zero written by Tappei Nagatsuki. The Manga is just an extra and isn't actually drawn by Tappei or Shinichiro Otsuka so no. Also, I was making a joke XD

@natsumi9140

2 жыл бұрын

Bruhh

I'm thinking that the reason why the Archbishops almost always introduce them by their star name immediately, and have star names specifically-- is that so that she can get her hands on the person who recognized them(it would confirm that they're really from that world as well). Be it because she thinks that Flugel will spawn(for example, as Subaru) or because she wants to meet someone who comes from his world.

The archbishops in re:zero are very interesting. Tappei starts out with a simple concept while exploring the complexity of the story.

We thought the Witch cult and Pandora’s goal was to resurrect Satella, but it seems they want to revive Flugel... mind blowing

@flugel3562

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe to do that they have to kill satella or something since she has the ability to time travel or mess with time

@kurokamireaper3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@flugel3562 Except there is a possibility of Subaru and Flugel being the same person. Well, who knows, assuming Subaru is Flugel, then maybe Pandora does not know.

@flugel3562

3 жыл бұрын

@@kurokamireaper3761 pandora probably gonna fall in love with subaru since he has a lot of witch factors

@fakerweldi7879

3 жыл бұрын

​@Ákos M. And the the witch of envy will kill everyone for that

@instagramstar5928

3 жыл бұрын

@@flugel3562 aren't there a lot of people wanting Subaru now

The final battle: Pandora: What.....is love? Subaru: 🎵Baby don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me, no more!🎶

@qiqi349

2 жыл бұрын

Hes a Lolimancer so i believe Pandora will fall for him immedietly

@aaronking2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@qiqi349 Pandora versus Envy versus Emilia versus Rem ultimate 4 way battle

@herbertwalter8693

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronking2020 cross out the word battle

@mathwitch24601

11 ай бұрын

​@@herbertwalter8693 😂😂😂😂😂

6:09 That actually makes a lot of Sence why he is Presilas knight. She hates people that don't possess Pride ,that is why she kicks Subaru when he was begging her for help . She likes Prideful people so she chooses the MOST Prideful person to be her knight.

@alinastanescu4430

3 жыл бұрын

Al:*exists The community:"You must be pride"

Well done Editor-kun

@facepalmrl

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks m8

I like your explanation on why Al and Stride don't use their star name, I haven't seen that idea before.

@vendalts

3 жыл бұрын

Steins gate or re zero

@messengerfrom0

3 жыл бұрын

@@vendalts both

@kurokamireaper3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@vendalts Both are great, I lean more towards Re zero's setting, however, I give both a 10.

Re Zero is actually so amazing because it's just really deep and connected, it's kind of like a really hard and thoughtful puzzle that doesn't fit together, but when it does it just leaves such a lasting impression. I feel like very very small details in the anime and LN are going to be very very important later on.

flugel trial in the watchtower wasnt impossible to solve tough. He gave plenty of hints on how to deal with it: from the title of shaula which is the STAR keeper of the tower, to the magic that clouded the sky so people wont see the stars at night(making the think about the sky in fact), to the scorpion tail which shaula talked of (not ponytail, must be intentional here to indicate shaula isnt hte target of the riddle directly), to the fact that black objects into a white field are the opposite of the sky(monoliths into the white space which is the first trial), that you need to change your perspective to solve the riddle, after that seeing how the shape of the stars remember of animal shapes find the scorpion and then one of the two stars that are her eyes should be the answer(i checked the position of rigel and betelgeuse). So all in all is a trial of deduction

@dvanepope5602

3 жыл бұрын

You clearly forgot that Re zero world star sky is absolutely different from ours. This test was 100% made for "sage" of the world travelers.

@cmsbrjb

3 жыл бұрын

The real key to the first trial was knowing that Betelgeuse is a variable star and the over time Rigel has a greater luminosity if you integrate over time. That is highly esoteric knowledge that only someone like me, or a astro otaku like Subaru, would know. For me, this is the strongest evidence that Subaru and Flugel are the same person. Or, at the very least, Flugel had a way to predict the future in a very precise manner.

@colovick

3 жыл бұрын

@@cmsbrjb to me it's really simple. Several of the witch factors can create immortality in different ways. Then between bending reality and RBD, time travel may be possible. Flugel is Subaru and Satella is Emilia. They kill WoE then get sent back 400 years to try to fix things, Subaru is forced to give Emilia the envy factor and she is overtaken by the power. Subaru them finishes setting up for the future and heads to the world's core to counteract the witch of envy and he stays there until his original goes back in time, then makes his move to save Satella aka Emilia

I think Pandora was making fun of Flugel with Petelgeuse , since Geuse = Orion , Betelgeuse=Hand of Orion and Petelgeuse = Pand of Orion ,a pun for Pandora's name

This has been one of my two favorite Re:Zero theories for a while, and I'm glad it finally got covered in a video by a Re:Zero content creator. Loved the video! Keep up the great work :)

“Petel *juice* “

We can’t forget that Subaru is also a star name

@natsur1361

3 жыл бұрын

Its a car

Tappei = Pandora

@yeetthephone2341

3 жыл бұрын

holy shit this is a great theory!

@zeo4481

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeetthephone2341 Sans = Ness = Steven = Flowey = Monika = Gaster = Chara = BED LUMP!

@yeetthephone2341

3 жыл бұрын

ZEO BED LUMP! = @ZEO???

Truly an interesting video, i always appreciate learning more about pandora and flugel. I wonder how it will turn out when pandora and subaru will meet.

Jakez I think I saw in one of tappei QNAs that flugel had to do something with echidna’s birth so is it possible that flugel has existed longer then the witches and even knew the past witches?

@doublehit9165

3 жыл бұрын

yep. its possible. i personaly believe he is the one who gave the witches their authorities though

@natewentafk

3 жыл бұрын

@@doublehit9165 I believe that to, That flugel existed before the witches were born and that he passed the past witch factors to the new witches but I feel like their was a way flugel was able to maintain his age and make himself younger

@thanoscar3576

3 жыл бұрын

Subaru takes every witch factor, goes back in time, then distributes them?? ooo

@doublehit9165

3 жыл бұрын

@@thanoscar3576 maybe he get switched to be flugel for a tiny bit of time after his fight with pandora, had to say goodbye to shaula there knowing she will wait fro 400 years, plant the tree and so on. just before the final loop in which he win

@cmsbrjb

3 жыл бұрын

The Echidna whose birth Flugel was involved in was not the Echidna you are thinking of. It was a Great Spirit like Puck, not the witch herself. Also, keep in mind that the Echidna that Subaru met in the sanctuary was not "The Echidna" herself either.

Video- **analyzes Re:ZERO** Background- **Emilia dying over and over** Me- **visible suffering**

2:13 kinda crazy theory but you made me realize: archbishops are just that... there’s many positions above such a title. There are also cardinals/ bishops and the prime bishop (pope) depending on what religion heirarchy is used. It’s still a huge contingency point but we don’t know Subarus connection to satella nor flugel or his involvement. Pandora being a bishop/ cardinal would most likely have a boss still and can rewrite laws of the world or something like that. Then wouldn’t it be possible for flugel the sage to 1 be a suprise boss leader of the witches cult trying to revive an old friend? We know the cult aims to revive the witch but to what end? Through vulcanica we know that flugel and satella imprinted their handprints on a slate implying they had some connection. So to recap: flugel controls pandora and her ability, can alter time/ or better yet write characters into the past for whatever reason. I’m no author. You can expand on this yourself- and Subaru saves old satella who is sweet like Emilia. Satella loves Subaru, witch factor events occur, she begins to corrupt, evil satella gets jealous Subaru only talks about Emilia/ other girls etc; then rampages 🤷🏻‍♂️ anyways got my main points out. Pandora ain’t the final boss and she has powers that give a great connection to many questions we have

I know next to nothing about Emerada Lugunica, but based on the small paragraphs from Arc 5, & all the various descriptions of the Sin Archbishop of Lust, Capella Emerada Lugunica, there's little doubt in my mind that the Unholy Princess Emerada Lugunica & the Unholy Princess Capella Emerada Lugunica are the same person. Based on what we have seen of her in Arc 5, & Meili's Recollections in Arc 6, it very much fits the description of someone whose death date would be overlooked, & people would be relieved over.

Correction: I'm pretty sure Petelguese was named by Flugel, not by Pandora. See, Flugel knows of stars quite a lot and Petelguese originally was a good character. Geuse is basically an abbreviation of his given name I'm pretty sure.

I like your theory about Stride and Al's name. Just offering a different perspective but we've seen no evidence that Stride had the Authority of Pride (or at least we've seen no sign of him using it) so maybe that's why he didn't get the special name. Pandora might be indifferent to the leadership of the cult unless said leader actually possesses a witch factor so the leaders of the Witch Cult who DON'T have witch factors (like Guese) don't get star names until they do acquire a witch factor. Guese was a leader of the moderate branch of cult but Pandora only acknowledged him after he absorbed sloth. I still think we know basically nothing about who Pandora is or what she wants (and for somebody who is being depicted as possibly the series primary villain, that's pretty weird 7 arcs in) except for whatever is behind the door. Nice video. Good theory.

I just stopped re-watching all your Pandora videos, and you publish another? I love you

Your theory is clean my guy

Dont tell me that sattela blasting half off the world to bits be something like pandora in love with frugal and sattela cant wate till Subaru be reborn from frugal I mean it be not surprising if all re zero devolved into a cat fight between 2 witches over a single man ^_^

@idk-ye7ur

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao, that woul be a funny trigger. xd

@maykolllopez1585

3 жыл бұрын

I'm having a stroke reading this

I have crazy theory about rui and subaru in arc 7 . In arc 6 it is said when rui appeared spirit room witch was healing them stopped healing them and if she is a spirit who was healing them she might mske contract with subaru so he wont die due his broken gate in arc 7 what do you think of this?

wow really liked this video the audio is perfect liked the music and how fresh the pics and scenes you use for the videos love the improvements

I think this video has the best audio of all I have watched, anyway congrats mate

A little theory of mine : (I just randomly came up with it, so I thought why not share it) It is possible that the world of Re Zero is in fact Earth where Subaru and all the other isekaied people came from but in the future (I'm talking about thousands of years in the future) and that Od Laguna (whatever that is exactly) came from space. Od Laguna is the source of mana and blessings in Re Zero, so I can see that after colliding on Earth, much like the meteor with the dinosaurs, it caused humanity to go extinct and spend a lot of time stabilising itself and melting with the world, shaping it completely anew. The witch factors are the antithesis of Od Laguna (or blessings) and the author has stated that they would work on Earth but mana and blessings not. Blessings need Od Laguna to work but witch factors don't and witch factors are far stronger than blessings. So I would say the witch factors are chunks of od laguna that rejected or refused melting with Earth, making them the antithesis of Od Laguna. It would explain why stars play such a major role in Re Zero. Od Laguna itself came from the stars as Subaru knew them. The world of Re Zero as it is now has been shaped by the stars. Flugel somehow found out about the origins/past of Od Laguna thanks to his connection with it (he is/was supposedly its master or something) and made plans according to details of what he saw. This would imply that Re Zero has never been an isekai but a time travel series to the future, which would be in my opinion a ridiculously awesome plottwist that let's us question everything we have known so far. In Memory Snow there is a scene where Subaru points out to a star in the night sky to be the North Star only for Beatrice to say that he is pointing in the south direction. How funny would it be to realise that Subaru may have actually been right and it is indeed the north star but due to the passing of time the stars position has changed, now being the south star instead of north.

@facepalmrl

3 жыл бұрын

Nice theory, really well thought out!

Imagine if Pandora and Flugel's relationship is same as Beatrice and Subaru's... Hehe just a stupid thought... It's probably not that...

i thought i recalled that geuse's underlings already called him petelgeuse before he got the sloth factor

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't. They called him Bishop Romaneé Conti.

The deeper you go into the rabbit hole, the more you get evidence to the theory that Satella was framed. And that makes me even more shocked cuz Psyculturist guessed that before reaching the second cour of season 1. He even almost guessed the entire plot of Arc 6 and 7. That guy is nuts. He can literally tell you the entire story of Re:Zero without even having touched it beyond season 1 content.

@phines8499

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he spoiled himself to look smart

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@phines8499 I'm pretty sure I'm the one who spoiled him with hints, along with some other Bois. He doesn't really pinpoint any specific plontpoint ideas, he just brought up the Idea of how Rem and Subaru would behave if they lost their memories because he saw the White Whale erase memories and shit.

That's awesome! Love the new video man.

Im here from the appearance of Pandora at episode 43...

Heaven, From Persona 4. Love that Theme at the end lol

All Hail! Subaru! Long live The Sin Archbishop I forgat anyone know if not just Al the only one ho came from other world or mention in L.N. or W.N. like a Slab or Item just like Subaru Cellphone

Theory, subaru when he got isekai to re zero world, his existence got split in two. One got sent to past and became flugel, and other half in future who we are following. In future arc when both will become one, we will see memory of flugel 400 years ago.

@saljpal3

4 ай бұрын

I'm not so sure, it seems like Flugel's actions were done knowing what was going to happen in future events. Like planting the Flugel tree, having Shaula guard the Pleiades Watchtower and creating the trials at the Pleiades Watchtower.

@varughesegodwin8656

4 ай бұрын

Subaru will go back in time, become whole again, plant the tree, make the trials, go back to the future and become the new sage. And do you know where the witch factors really came from Subaru brought it from future and leave it in past. Creating a bootstrap paradox. But that's just a theory

The maps of the Re:Zero world also seem to be based on the stars, or a specific star map on a specific day. The locations in the Re:Zero world seem to match up with stars as viewed from somewhere around Tokyo Japan on 2012/04/20 at around 20 : 00 to 21 : 58 ... This is the day and approximate time when the first post of the web novel was made. The Pleiades Watchtower matches the location of the Pleiades star cluster, the Auriga Sand Dunes match the constellation and all the other locations seem to match closely with some star or celestial body and some of those named stars or celestial bodies have names that are relevant to the story. It could be coincidence but there sure are a lot of them... as many as there are stars in that map. >;)~

Nice video as always

Good job editor guy

That's a good theory can't wait for more

Great video as always

Re zero is a mind flip

its pretty much pandora and her cards being the archbishops vs flugel/satella/echidna and their cards being divine protections and artificial spirits

5:30 didn't Al literally fight Capella? And it wasn't just the "witch cult disagreeing" fight like with Regulus vs Sirius earlier in the arc. They were actually on opposite sides... idk I think this plot twist is gonna be really good

So Subaru has a star name like the Sin Archbishops and the Witches . Subaru = Sin Archbishop of Envy confirmed.

@nikhildominic1565

3 жыл бұрын

Well the seat of envy isn't empty as satella is still alive. But satella and Subaru do have some kind of contract where she uses RBD on him. So he technically is Envy and a sage candidate....

@fanboy4382

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikhildominic1565 if Return by Death really is the Authority of Envy, then Subaru has the qualifications to be a Sin Arcnitchup. Plus Satella can't really hold Archbishop seat because I don't think she wanted a Cult in the first place.

@riplix20

3 жыл бұрын

@@fanboy4382 well I mean, she’s also the witch of envy, the witch can’t be their own archbishop

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikhildominic1565 Her being dead doesn't matter. If that were the case then there would only be ONE Sin Archbishop of Gluttony. I know they're an exception, but that still doesn't change the fact that Subaru could also be a second holder of the Witch Factor of Envy.

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@riplix20 Also, witches don't have Archbishops to begin with.

Fact: Subaru is Pleiades in Japanese. That's why 7 witches are fond of him.

Might wanna put a spoiler warning on some things- I didn't catch up to Arc 6, and didn't know about Al's status. If you already did and I didn't catch it, then my bad!

Who is the Pope of Sin?

@deathrouter3443

3 жыл бұрын

petra

Yes

@hideogayjima5699

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I just realized they all have star names and Subaru has a constellation name

Why he name my guy Subaru tho 😭

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

Are you one of those casuals who think Subaru is named after a Car?

7:55 Why just Flugel? It could be Hoshin too.

@Jakez123

3 жыл бұрын

Mainly because Flugel has been based around stars (giving shaula a star name, trial based around stars). Hoshin just helped found kararagi

@natewentafk

3 жыл бұрын

Hoshin might be Flugel because flugel owned the Lust witch factor which he possibly used to change his appearance so it might be that hoshin is flugel and hoshin isn’t a real person but a mere fake that is flugel.

@dadaeeaeeadada3301

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jakez123 who named the witches ? They based on asteroids too

@nikhildominic1565

3 жыл бұрын

@@natewentafk that's something I can see flugel doing

Maybe there weren't any letters in Betelgeuse that were in Pandora? I mean, other Archbishops seem to have them!

@Ketamine_collector

3 жыл бұрын

It is my personal theory that He is NOT Slothful because of that his name is not Betelguese but Petelguese all the other archbishops have their sins and their name are correct unlike Guese

is the re:zero world and the real world timing the same? because if flugel could be older than the witches, how does shaula knows about Google? obviously from flugel but, i'm sure if the timing is the same, Google didn't exist in those 400+ years ago.

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of Time Desynq and Time Travel?

@sarathewise

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 ngl i've never heard of time desynq. what's that? english is not really my first language.

5.38 cant

fortuna is puck though.

Creepy intro but a lovely video

i don't think Al is the sin archbishop of pride, i think he might have the authority of pride though, as with the case of both subaru and clind being a authority user does not mean they are of the witch cult

are you going to upload interlude 3?

@natewentafk

3 жыл бұрын

Interlude 3?

You should make a reinhard video

9:26 cant tell me pandoras not hot asf ong frfr

Did satella go to earth and find someone to love her or subaru was transport in another world when he was just a child and for get all about it

@fakerweldi7879

3 жыл бұрын

Shaula knows about google and that mean the Time between worlds works differently .This also means that Albedran and Subaru may in fact be close in age, and their recall is only hours or days apart?.

If they do not even see the stars that we see from Earth. How far away are they? Or is it another universe altogether?

@saljpal3

4 ай бұрын

In the ova episode, Subaru pointed out some constellations so maybe it's a parallel Earth? 🤷‍♂

3.58 cant

3.25 cant

Sir you lovely chapter to final 🙏 I wanted know about Volcanica call flugel is Sage Flugel or Flugel-Sama Maybe Flugel.

Can somebody sauce me the source of Al trying to contact Regulus via a communication mirrior? I've read arc 5 twice, tried looking it up and just can't seem to find it. I'd rather not skim the whole Arc if anyone knows

@Jakez123

3 жыл бұрын

It’s only in the light novel, if you read the arc 5 web novel it won’t be present since the web novel doesn’t have illustrations.

@myonlineid9141

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jakez123 Thanks for the timely response!

Wait Didn't fortuna died??

Isn't it possible Flugel is still alive and giving Pandora orders?

@nikhildominic1565

3 жыл бұрын

Geuse mentioned that he got the sloth factor from flugels bones when fighting regulus and pandora. So likely he is dead but it's flugel so who knows...

I have a theory, Pandora was originally Flugels loli

if there is any relationship between flungel x pandora will be enemies, there is nothing to see the two having a relationship.

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

Skeptical and Pessimistic, are we?

@ghostblack714

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 I call it realistic.

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghostblack714 I call it toxic.

@ghostblack714

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 I didn’t curse anyone here, I just gave my opinion, giving an opinion isn’t toxic.

I can not check 9.07

What? Pandora was in love with Flugel?

@pixel7987

3 жыл бұрын

FBI open the door

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@pixel7987 And then she erases all the FBI.

You know Fortuna is also an astrological term, right?

Does Al have the same scent as Subaru ?

@gabrielborgesdeoliveira4608

3 жыл бұрын

Unlikely since Rem didn't rected to it in arc 3

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

Well, as far as I know, no one has as much Miasma as Subaru, out of all the 8 Witches and Sin Archbishops. Only Satella has it, but hers is 2000 times more than what Subaru has.

Uh, pretty sure Juice is a mistranslation man. It's supposed to be "Geuse." And I'm PRETTY sure that is a nickname.

@Jakez123

3 жыл бұрын

Guese/JUice is the same thing im referring to, and like i said everyone calls him that except pandora, hence Guese IMO is his actual name.

@jedlmastermoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jakez123 Oh, I thought it was pronounced Ge-euse

@jedlmastermoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jakez123 Also, didn't Echidna call him Petelgeuse 400 years ago?

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@jedlmastermoon Since when and where?

@jedlmastermoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 Forgot about this comment, and my bad, I reread it and got nothing on Petelgeuse

Yo do you know why AI hates Ram now?

@claudioestrella1160

3 жыл бұрын

Oh shit she killed his homies?

@claudioestrella1160

3 жыл бұрын

Oh took his arm before he had a power.

@teammystic4life38

3 жыл бұрын

It's not explained but people theorize Al was a sin archbishop of some kind, probably pride, and he led the attack on the oni tribe probably to rid the world of the oni god. Ram was supposed to be a reincarnation of the oni god so he mad as hell she still alive

Does that mean that Fluegel is the final boss?

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

You just had to pull some random cocaine-ass shit out of your ass, didn't you?

@thermophile1695

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 What's that even supposed to mean?

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

@@thermophile1695 Why would Fluegel be the final boss if he was never antagonistic? Are you high?

@thermophile1695

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 Fluegel is the reason Arc 6 is even a thing. We don't know if he was evil, but he's definitely at least partly an antagonist.

@VinnyUnion

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 i find it ironic how you "jokingly" called someone's opinion (GHOSTBLACK) toxic meanwhile you're being actially toxic. LOL

Mmm I see! Yes that makes sense so that's why it happens a lot! *Because Pandora is in love with subaru, he gained the ferocious ability of Lolimancer.*

Interesting but no leads to what I’m thinking.

What if Flugel named them all for some future purpose knowing that only someone like Subaru would eventually understand why? Flugel and the dragon Volcanica both are known to be forgetful and very old. What if they are the same entity or somehow linked? What if Flugel is actually ... the heart of the dragon? Volcanica knows Patrasche, perhaps he knows her from the tome of wisdom... Someone at some point must get sent back in time... Or Echidna... I get it now.... Echidna. You evil ******ery of a witch. OMG.

@danielantony1882

3 жыл бұрын

You need to take fewer drugs and sleep more, my dude.

Hold up is this a spolier

@Jakez123

3 жыл бұрын

I mean if you don't notice who I'm referring to then take that as yes. Either way it requires knowledge up to arc 6.

@gil755

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jakez123 Thanks

Pandora= rem but she’s from the past

@teammystic4life38

3 жыл бұрын

Just no

@phines8499

3 жыл бұрын

More like Flugels loli partner