Enjoyed the video

@_bit_

2 жыл бұрын

Palm restoration?

@DancingSk3L3tons

Жыл бұрын

Fuckin Hugh Jazz lmao

When I was a kid in the early 2000's I've won the Palm Vx on an online auction for laughably cheap like 10$ maybe and I was actually using it at school to take notes, I've had a terrible hard to read and slow handwriting and couldn't keep up with making notes by pen in a notebook but I got really proficient with the Graffiti on the Vx and I was allowed to use it to take notes instead on it, even better later on I got a portable foldable keyboard for it, the only problem was it couldn't really do drawings and it was very much a "Notepad" like app so I couldn't use it for everything like math for example but took most written notes on it, I remember personally being really fond of it even tho it was already at the time getting kinda obsolete

Man, the palm pilot brings back so many childhood memories! Love these videos!

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed the experience, thank you!

A few months after buying the Zire 71, I walked into a local Cashies and found a Palm Vx sitting there in box with the deluxe case for $75! I was blown away, and bought it immediately. I spent many lunch breaks transferring programs between the 71 and the Vx via IR, marveling at how well the technology worked. I would use the 71 for my every day stuff (documents, games, music etc), and I used the Vx for my onsite work for note taking and drawings for layouts and such (I worked as an event photographer). And naturally, I could beam those notes back to my 71, or visa versa. I still have that Vx, but again, it being somewhat inaccessible in a storage unit... I fear the internal battery will need replacing.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear from a Palm Vx fan. I hope you get to see your Vx again one day.

That's a great looking Vx. I had a V for a few years from 1999 to early 2003 after which I switched to Sony CLIE devices. It was so slim and compact I carried it around everywhere! A company called OmniSky came out with a cellular data packet sled in 2000 and I was able to get a taste of wireless internet... though it was slow and coverage was limited to metropolitan areas. I sometimes miss those days when computing power in your pocket was still relatively new.

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

The pace of development in mobile computing in those days was thrilling. It must have been amazing to have wireless internet in your pocket in 2000. Thanks for sharing. It's great to hear from a fellow Palm V user.

@Dragon-Slay3r

Жыл бұрын

Aka v dot

@Dragon-Slay3r

Жыл бұрын

​@@JanusCyclewhat about the potato?

Wonderful Industrial Design. The Palm V, leather cover, and base are so luxurious The Palm V feels great in the hand. I don't think the iPhones ever came close.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I now carry my Palm Vx in the leather wallet with my cards and cash every day. I may not use the Palm much, but it's a treasure to have.

@dragonforces

11 ай бұрын

@@JanusCycleI do the same with a Sony NZ90, I even have a nice leather case for it. Certainly a head turner.

My dad had a few Palms when I was growing up, and when he upgraded, I got the old one. The Palm V felt like magic, even to a 10 year old. The handwriting recognition worked so well that it really was like writing on paper. I honestly think we might be better off if we were to split phones back into separate devices, like an mp3 player, a PDA for organizing your life, a camera, and a plain cell phone just for calls and texts. I constantly wonder about getting an old Palm V and trying to run my life with it. If i could find a way to access all the online stuff i need for work, i might actually try it.

@JanusCycle

2 ай бұрын

I've not heard to many people talk about de-convergence. An interesting idea.

Love the effort you've gone to make this so well produced!

This is a very rare jewel of a video.

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, that is very kind. I'm really glad you enjoyed the experience.

I was using my Palm T|X in 2007 and possibly right up until iPhone 4 in 2010. I used it today to retrieve some contact info and go down memory lane. Nice video.

thank you so much for making such a passionate video! I'm going through popular science magazines from the 2000s and searched up the palm vx from an ad, and here I am.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed this. The Palm Vx has a special place in my personal Hall of Fame list.

Sometimes I miss the Palm days. The 3Com Palm V was my second Palm after the US Robotics Palm Pilot Pro. I loved using it, even more so, because I was given it, being a 3Com employee at the time. I pretty much used it to death. So I followed it by a Sony CLIE, then a T5, and eventually, a Centro. I was enthused about Palm WebOS, but that platform died before I even had a chance to look at it. I can't help think that the lack of legacy support contributed to its eventual downfall. Now I have a Palm emulator on my Android device…

The jewel of KZread reviews!

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Thank you !

Great video! I’ve a Palm Vx in much need of repair I’ve just been put of prying it apart! Thanks for the shoutout!

love the end scene, looks cool with the cars in the background

I also had one of these. enjoyed this very much! thankyou!

This was a great video. Thanks for the nostalgia!

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear, thanks for watching.

It was an amazing decade of inventions and discoveries!

Such good content. Thanks it's appreciated.

I loved my Vx. During university I took notes with it using a foldable keyboard. The battery life was stellar compared to laptops back then. Bu my favourite memory is using AvantGo to sync news to the Vx and read them during the course of the day. I think I could sync NYT, wired and other web sites.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I used to sync news from places like Wired as well! I've been doing that again recently for the nostalgia and pleasure of reading articles on this screen :)

@mrhaftbar

Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle I might still have the Vx somewhere around. What are you using for syncing?

Extremely classic, I wish I still had our family's original Vx but I'll settle for the many others that I have. I still do have my first Palm, a IIIe. The V/Vx was definitely the Palm to have back then, Handspring made quite a splash with their Visor Edge. And ofc Palm reused this form factor with the m500 series but they used screws instead of glue. They were also excellent. I'd suggest putting mathlib in ROM since so many applications rely on it, I also like using Launcher III on Palm devices running 4.1 or under, check it out. Idk why but I just loved using my Palm so much through the years, I have more than 10Gb of software for it and have amassed quite a collection, I love seeing more videos about it!

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips on mathlib and Launcher III. I'm so in love with the V/Vx and the greyscale screen. I am using other models as well all with colour screens. Including trying Palm OS 5 at the moment. But I keep coming back to this one.

Love this ep. The beat up martin got a good chuckle out of me.

Very well put together video, love it

@JanusCycle

11 ай бұрын

thank you

I remember around 2008 or 2009 I used a palm color with Bluetooth and mp3 capabilities and would use it with my Sprint 3g flip phone as a modem would access the internet that way when I was homeless in Chicago

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Nice way to use tech while living in a nomadic way.

@coreybabcock2023

Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle definitely

Outstanding video - thanks!

As a 90s kid, this gives me weird nostalgia willies. So much forgotten technology.

Nice video. I love old stuffs. 😁

Thanks, I will put on my calendar to change battery in a V that I inherited:)

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I hope this gave you some idea of how to tackle the challenge :)

I am old enough to remember only execs get the Palm V.. Palm III for the rest of us

I remember the Palm V very well - the build quality was really nice, except for that the stylus slot on the right was very tight, making it hard to remove the stylus. Great video - really brought back memories. I hope the patch on your left thumb wasn't from the blade used to remove the glue 😉

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed, thanks. The thumb injury was not from working on the Palm. It was a different silly mistake.

I miss my palm III it used AAA batteries. The handwriting and the calendar app are par excellance. I also had a great tool for decoding cisco passwords from their routers.

I looked up KZread only to be sure i wasn't damaging my m515 which i haven't used/charged for more than 15 years ! This is the same reason why i tore it down. The EXPERIENCE of the 2000s !

Saw this vid a while ago and when recently a v and vx popped up i jumped at them! Both are mint came with one hard and one soft case and cradle! 22 freedom bucks for both and good addition to my bunch of ipaqs lol

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Nice score there! In mint condition these things look amazing in person.

A quick reminder for the battery refurbishment: whenever you can, you should use the original BMS board from the original battery, in case the device needs the original board to charge the battery as intended.

@medes5597

9 ай бұрын

It's a third party solution designed as a replacement, it's known to work. Technically he didn't have to game the connection. Generally you're correct but in this case the result was known.

I had one just like this. 33mhz cpu, I remember being a bit envious of the color model. But that little palm had a lot of functionality even with non multi tasking OS. Best of all the battery would last months on a charge. I then got the z71 or whatever the color one with a camera was. Last one for me was the treo 650, beast of a device. Not many proly remember, but Sony made their Clio line of Palm based devices and they were more multimedia flavored. Sony used their own, unique configurations and I always wanted one of the higher end, mps3 ones. But the prices were always worse so I always emded up with Palm devices.

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your Palm history. I've heard from many that the Treo 650 was the best of the range. I'm looking forward to trying out a later Palm model soon. The Sony models look even more interesting, one day I hope.

The backlit screen is what made this thing civilized. Without it the screen looked so ugly to me, not to mention unreadable. Never mind that there was nothing else quite like the Palm before. It's like the song says, "sometimes, bad is bad" until you start putting real usability into it, and that started with the backlight.

Great video! I love the Palm V but have given up on buying them as they all seem to come with digitzer drift now. There's a utility to recalibrate every time the Palm is turned on but it's no use when the screen loses focus within seconds! The m500 series is more reliable in that respect (and easier to replace the battery.)

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

There might be a way to fix that if it's being caused by grit under the frame pressing on the touch layer. But it usually involves disassembly and cleaning the screen and inside of the frame and may not always fix the problem. I have done it successfully though.

Love my Vx

For anyone wishing to glue their Palm back together, use either double sided Android tablet tape or chloroprene glue (the yellow stinky stuff used for shoes & counter tops)

@loganmacgyver2625

4 ай бұрын

That taste free stimulating stuff is used in phone repair to glue on glass backs

Nice Vid, please more Network Palm Vids, thanks

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Palm OS is really great and I'm keen to do more including networking.

love the old palm line of devices. i used to have one long ago but it never turned on and never got to fixing it. not sure what happened to it wish i saved it

Stimulate the taste-free. Indeed.

i really liked mine

There is a driver you can install under Win98, to be able to read any kind of USB mass storage device. So it is much easier to copy files onto the Toshiba laptop.

Palm were cool , but the Psion pda were super cool😮

Nice work! Just bought a Vx from eBay with the Magellan GPS Companion, which I’m hoping to utilise for some eccentric map or GPS purposes. Also comes with a keyboard and some other goodies. That glue packaging is hilarious!

@JanusCycle

8 ай бұрын

The GPS sounds intriguing. I hope you get it working!

@munnsie100

8 ай бұрын

@@JanusCycleit has arrived, I’ve successfully updated it to Palm OS 4.1, but it seems a bit unstable when installing new applications (such as resetting and losing the calibration badly). New battery is on the way and my USB-serial interface is working with Windows 10 and a later version of Palm Desktop. Still waiting to try the GPS with a bunch of different software I’ve found.

@munnsie100

8 ай бұрын

@@JanusCycleoh, and my backlight is non functional, though I’ve ordered a replacement IC to remedy this while I’m replacing the battery.

@munnsie100

8 ай бұрын

GPS disassembled and cleaned corrosion, working with Cetus, amazing to see!

@JanusCycle

8 ай бұрын

@@munnsie100 I'm really glad you got this working. If you continue to have calibration issues, try cleaning the digitizer under the front frame. Grit has been known to press down on the touch screen digitizer and cause accuracy problems. Unless you need Palm OS 4.1 features, Palm OS 3.5 is still a good option. Though I admit I have two Palm Vxs with each version on them.

Nice job with the Lipo replacement battery. Wondering what the approach would be with those plastic block style removable batteries you find on the 3310 etc. Nintendo DS Lite uses such a battery block, and I was wondering what possibilities exist for this hardware when aftermarket disappears. Although, having searched just now, there seem to be endless aftermarket options for NDSL.

@JanusCycle

3 ай бұрын

The more popular devices will have replacements for years. For the others it's hard work keeping batteries working or finding ways to build replacements.

@bobmcbob4399

3 ай бұрын

@@JanusCycle Yes, I saw your Switch battery swap in. Nice job there.

Hello I would like some information. Which cable do you use to connect it to the PC? I don't think a USB ... I can't understand from the video. also syncs with Office?

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

In this video I'm using an infrared IrDA connection. This model of Palm only has IrDA and serial connections. To use USB you would need a serial to USB adaptor cable.

I worked at the factory in Salt lake City, I got a Palm V with employee discount... Six or seven months of playing asteroids on it blew out the buttons on the bottom, I mentioned it to somebody at the factory though and they offered to just take it back into the factory floor swap out the plastic pad and run it through the glue machine again... Worked out for me but I'm not a big fan of using glue everywhere...

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

A harbinger of our future past for sure.

I have bought a Palm Tungsten E2 for 3 euros at a local flea market. But the touchscreen is not responding to any touch. I wonder why?? Can I fix that at home? Or should I try to get another screen? Or maybe another non-working device maybe?

How does the screen compare with a Palm m125 screen? Or, are they basically the same? I use my m125 for ereading. Works great outdoors or in daylight, but poor in bad lighting.

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the m125 screen is just as good as the Vx. These screens work great as a mini ereader. Thanks for sharing that.

гарно.

o nice

Is there any modern day use for this device since we keep our schedule and address book on our phones?

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Phones are much more capable these days by a huge degree. For me it's about the display and not needing a backlight to use and the way the screen looks. I also really like e-paper displays for similar reasons. But this Palm is more than an ebook reader, it's a pocket computer. I also kinda like the complete offline aspect when away from the dock. Sprinkle in some personal nostalgia and I really enjoy having this.

What do you think of the m500 series? Similar to the v but screwed together so much easier to replace the battery

@JanusCycle

14 күн бұрын

I have a m515 that I looked at, with mixed feelings. I think I would much prefer a m500 with greyscale LCD and SD card slot together. And yes the battery is much easier to replace!

I just got a Palm V with terrible digitizer drift. A few days after calibration, I can’t even reach the menu to reset the digitizer. Is that a function of battery voltage dropping?

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe it's the battery. Either the digitizer is wearing out. Or there is grit build up between the metal frame and the digitizer that is pressing on the digizier. I have successfully cleaned a couple of these and fixed the drift problem. But i did have to take it apart to do that.

I owned the original palm pilot and many upgrades after that... lol I had the palm v and then a m505 and then the titanium... then treo phones... I was a fanboy

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear from a Palm fan, you covered many generations there.

I found this after repairing my own Palm V, I'm interested in knowing that the name is of the utility that unlocks the home screen colour depths and where I can find it.

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

The utility is called Screen Prefs. You will also need to install HackMaster to run and configure it. palmdb.net/app/screen-prefs

@m0rsh2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Thanks for the reply! I found and downloaded it, works a charm on my Palm V :)

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

@@m0rsh2512 Great stuff!

joao sempre quis um palmtop pena q pararao de fabrica podia volga igual nokoa 3310,tm como instalar winds

Tnx for video mate

i think i have one of those some where, but i have my sony clie nv70 right here chilling

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Nice, I'm keen to try out some CLIEs one day.

Can you provide info on battery? Where to acquire this exact one?

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Mine was from eBay. It works really well. www.ebay.com.au/itm/222883063110 You can also get one with the connector already attached. But more expensive. www.ebay.com.au/itm/114129761234

@sanjaypatil2532

2 жыл бұрын

Don't hv eBay in India, but i wonder if anyone could help me use another standard one from the market and customize it.

@edwardfletcher7790

2 жыл бұрын

@@sanjaypatil2532 Nokia BL-5C is a good substitute. It's used in many Chinese radios and gadgets.

I still have one. Is it still necessary to use it if I have a smartphone?

@JanusCycle

6 ай бұрын

Necessary is about your needs. I use a smartphone for almost everything. I also carry whatever I'm making a video on for about a week or two for the experience. The Palm Vx however is the only device that I have been carrying since making this video. Because I can very easily copy specific types of articles over to my Palm. I really enjoy those rare moments I get to read them on this particular vintage device. Occasionally I even play a game. Do I need to do that? Not at all. Do I enjoy those moments? Very much so :)

0:52 why did you randomly write 'eat up Martha'? What is the significance of this??

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

The Simpsons - Eat Up Martha kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2ql2suxl7SwZLA.html

The cpu that it runs on called DragonBall EZ, just a energy efficient version of motorola 68k core

So E-6000 glue wasnt good enough they had to make B-7000?

Mad fans around the world. I usually transfer a few ml into a syringe and use that with a blunt needle to apply it.

V palm has 6 leaves and the orange dot is in the middle of the V palm

I remember my elementary teacher using one of these, I assume it was paid for by the school

Does it play DOOM. ?😅 Great video.

G L O V E

So many similarities between this & 1st iPhone. Home screen layout look strikingly identical. Steve tried to make us believe entire Mac Os was running Ning on it instead of a very striped down version. Even today in 2023 one can not run full mac os apps on iPhone nor ipads.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

My understanding was the Zen of Palm document was directly used by Apple when designing the first iPhone. I find it odd that Apple is still keeping iOS so separate from MacOS, while the chips that run them are basically all the same.

Late 1990s history.

Always remove old glue and see how the cover fits the case. Carefully bend back the deformities made by forcefull removing. Then apply the best selling Europe and America.

What we need is a dumb phone with Palm OS, light and efficient, with an e-ink display

The first successful? I guess Psion weren't a thing then ;)

@JanusCycle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing up Psion. They made some awesome models. I’m not sure which models you are referring to? The very early models remind me more of personal organisers like Casio Databanks. I do really like Psions and wish I knew more, but they are hard to find these days. Palms are more common because so many more of them were sold.

@WhatALoadOfTosca

2 жыл бұрын

The Series 3 and 3a were more like computers than databanks. Full GUI, word processor, spreadsheet, time management tools, third party software, on board programming language etc.

1900 körül volt érintős telefon? Fura hogy ez a 2000 res években 2001 2002 egészen 2008 ig kB vissza maradt hogy addig meg nyomó gombosok voltak

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Almost every Palm OS based phone had a keypad/board. But there were a few rare ones that didn't, such as the Samsung SPH-i300. I don't know much about them, yet.

@agnesbiro2979

Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Magyarul érték csak

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

@@agnesbiro2979 Elnézést kérek, a Google fordító jól működik nekünk.

@agnesbiro2979

Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Oké de mi volt amit angolul írt?

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

@@agnesbiro2979 Thank you for understanding. Here is the translation for you. translate.google.com.au/?hl=en&sl=en&tl=hu&text=Thank%20you%20for%20understanding.%20Here%20is%20the%20translation%20for%20you.%20%0A%0AAlmost%20every%20Palm%20OS%20based%20phone%20had%20a%20keypad%2Fboard.%20But%20there%20were%20a%20few%20rare%20ones%20that%20didn%27t%2C%20such%20as%20the%20Samsung%20SPH-i300.%20I%20don%27t%20know%20much%20about%20them%2C%20yet.&op=translate

Palm pdas sufferred the fate of ice in a desert. There one day and disappeared fast. Phones killed a lot of tech. And touchscreens were early tech usually needing a stylus.

those were better times

I never really liked the appearance of the V that much. The m500 was everything that the V should've been, and a far more refreshing product overall.

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

I do like the SD slot on the m500, still trying to get one for the ultimate greyscale Palm model.

@Browningate

Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle I loved that little bugger. Especially the IBM-branded version (WorkPad c500) with its slick black color scheme.

El problema de la batería! En cambio, con mi Palmot HP 200 LX de 4 MB RAM que uso desde 1998 hasta el día de hoy (ajedrez, hojas de cálculo Lotus 1-2-3 que luego convierto a Excel, base de datos, apuntador, despertador, calculadora financiera, matemáticas Derive, BASIC y muchas otras aplicaciones DOS ... etc. ..etc... etc..) jamás padecí el problema de batería pues trabaja hasta dos o tres meses seguidos con sólo dos baterías AA, alcalinas o recargables.... de modo que, insisto, es mucho mejor (más eficaz..... es decir, capaz de sobrevivir durante muchos años más....) o acaso el mejor computador de mano (PALMTOP) fabricado hasta hoy.... ah, es que también fue producido en versiones de distintos idiomas (inglés, por supuesto, español, el mío, francés, alemán....) lo cual lo hizo más cosmopolita y universal... En fin... De todos modos, mágnífico, excelente video, muy inspirador, y que nos permite apreciar mejor tales variantes intermedias entre las calculadoras, los asistentes, los computadores y los actuales smartphones, teléfonos celulares que se han impuesto de modo tan contundente. Muchas, muchísimas gracias y saludos! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_200LX

@JanusCycle

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and your kind words. The HP 200 LX may be more powerful and expandable than the Palm Vx. But the Palm Vx is still the most beautiful and elegant pocket computer in my eyes. I really admire the HP 200 LX though. I have been looking to buy one when I can afford to. I have many DOS applications and I have many PCMCIA cards that I would like to try out with this. I think it would be a very interesting experience. I hope to make a video about it one day in the future. I promise I will find the true beauty of the HP 200 LX. I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know that you enjoyed this video and reminding me how magnificent the HP 200 LX is.

‘Eat up Martha?’ What the?!!..

it should be Eat up Martha , no ?

@JanusCycle

6 ай бұрын

This was a sly reference to Newton and how Palm were focused on being closer to the usefulness of paper. Of which Newton was less so and couldn't handle 'Beat up Martin', like paper easily can. Yeah, I think I think too much sometimes.

Why would you after destroying your other Palm v take apart the X? Seems a tad foolish to me

@JanusCycle

3 жыл бұрын

The V can now be fixed properly thanks to B7000, and the Vx has a brand new battery. Things are on the up and up.

@VenoPlonk

3 жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle ah okay fair enough

I randomly won one of these, whilst at a nightclub one year, it was a promotion from a cigarette company called 555 it’s the only thing I have ever won it’s was good for the day but doomed from the start