Combining beautiful hardware, hacked firmware and unintended consequences.
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Exploring retro devices from the pockets of history. Janus Cycle is an eclectic journey into technological wonders of the ages. Follow along with detailed looks into a wide range of intriguing devices, while appreciating the marvels of technological miniaturization.
Going deep into the technological aspects that makes each device unique. Following their stories into inventive and sometimes esoteric ways they function or affected our lives. Sit back and enjoy the experience that is Janus Cycle.
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You always end up finding the coolest devices to take a look at. This was a fun one. The GMA 500 graphics is weird and quite awful to support unfortunately. Perhaps XP Tablet PC edition or a cut down 7 would be the best choice for an OS, even if they are rather uninteresting!
you should try android 8.1 x86. it does run on these atoms and it wasnt that slow
Trust me when I say this. It wasn't worth it. Even had a msft employee GIVE me the copy with keys and all.
I trust you, but had to verify.
@@JanusCycle you should be able to install start 8 and get a start menu back. I think it's paid software from stardock though. I remember once upon a time I came into a free version somewhere on Google.
after 33 second, i lost interest in your channel. Good luck with your clickbait.
first of all this video is misleading. YES Windows 8 does have a Start Button and has the same desktop as Windows 7 and windows 10. You have to take it out of "Tablet Mode" in Settings.
If only our culture and news stories also had a settings menu to fix these issues.
@@JanusCycle I am self taught. I worked on computers since the 1980's. And I still have 286, 386 and 486 Machines in my collection I play retro games.
Is there anything in my videos that you find interesting?
@@JanusCycle kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKifmrx6ctSdebw.html
@@JanusCycle Handheld VAIO xp tablet originally made for XP, but it look like the one you had was vista on it.
Please,linux,Windows is bad
I do love a good Linux install.
had one of this in 2009...was amazing
Janus this is just painful. Look for a Mediacom Winpad W911/912 to enjoy win8.1!
15:00 To be honest I came to this video in part hoping for an answer to this, but we all seem to have the same problem. You spend ages getting this niche hardware all setup and working just right, and then at the end of it you don't actually know what to do with it. Its a trap I've fallen into many times and no doubt will do again (can see a recommended video on the side for a beepberry which I know would be the same but want regardless)
This can be a thorny question with some existential consequences. I'll keep trying to answer it in the future.
hey, whats that music behind you? 15:48
Check out the most recent track Drifting on Engineered Vibes channel, www.youtube.com/@engineeredvibes1837/videos
Would Windows 8.1 be with a shot? In my experience, it's been consistently more stable and less finicky than Windows 8.
I will be going for 8.1 one day when I find the right device.
most apps doesnt work anymore in windows 8. microsoft dropped support
Were you born yesterday????
I remember yesterday waking up, brushing my teeth and having breakfast, so I’m going to say probably not.
@@JanusCycle No computer tech can say they never used Windows 8, NONE! If this is your case? DELETE THIS CHANNEL!
@@Mexmex1975 I keep pressing the delete key on my keyboard, but my channel is still on KZread
@@JanusCycle Rename your channel to SAD Cycle
But my keyboard doesn't even have a Rename key
Try Hackintosh (Mac OS X Leopard) on it, I don't know if the touchscreen would work, but the Intel GMA 950 graphics should be ok.
I'm so keen to learn more about Hackintosh. Mac is the OS I know least about.
These UMPCs are quite expensive back in the day. I am surprised that the build quality is still not on par with major manufacturers.
I still own the 8GB version of the phone. While the keyboard is no longer operational, the rest of the device functions perfectly. The 3D speakers deliver an outstanding audio experience, unmatched by even the latest smartphones in 2024. The Dolby surround sound on this device remains superior, which is remarkable considering its release 14 years ago.
Windows 8.1 would be a better option imo.
I'm looking forward to doing an 8.1 install on something one day.
There were a lot of 7 and 8” windows 8 tablets. I had one. You might do better looking for one? Even Dell had one. Or a surface pro 1 or 2 shipped with Windows 8
I would like to try some of these larger devices.
Try it with linux
4:32 sent me 💀
Install windows 8.1
windows 8 was the best optimized system i have ever used. It is much faster than windows 7 you can feel the difference on old machines. It was the first windows to feature real-time protection and smartscreen.
great perspective
Awesome video Janus!! You should try installing Adele Linux cuz the devs made it lightweight to the point you might be able to use on older CPUs than Viliv S5 PMP has. Worked on my Pentium 4 PC!
Thanks, I'll check this out. I also see Action Retro did a video on this recently.
Can you install android on it? I've seen others who put android 2.3 on old pcs
I had n70, it was way ahead of its time❤
I had Windows 8 on a Surface Pro 3. I liked it. Though I’m mostly a Mac user. I thought this kinda had the middle ground of my iPad I liked and a desktop OS. I reckon if they pushed for this to work, and didn’t make my Lumia 800 redundant within a year (I really liked that phone until windows mobile 8 didn’t come out for it), I would be a windows fanboy.
5:20 - Intel Atom Z600 (SLBZP) 5:28 - Fujitsu ARM-based RF transceiver (MB86L01A) 5:34 - 2 x Samsung K4P51323EI (512MB DDR2 RAM x 2 = 1GB) 5:53 - Toshiba THGBM2G8D8FBAIB (32GB eMMC flash storage) 6:00 - Atheros AR6103G-BM2D (Wireless B/G/N module) 6:06 - Intel SM35 Express Chipset (SLJ3Q) 6:18 - Hynix H8MJXQQXOMER (NAND Flash or RAM for the ARM phone, need the bottom number to see but out of focus...) 6:28 - RealTek ALC270 (High-Definition Audio Codec)
Hm, wouldn't call it a 'budget quality build' - that PCB looks like your average run of the mill assembly. Korea sure likes its weird media players.
The way the solder looks a bit weird to me. Maybe a mid tier build is a better description. But that housing as well . .
doom
you can install open shell to make 8 look like you want. it was what i done first 5 min after purchase win8 laptop (it was classic shell back then), while whole world whining about they can't use 8.
Pretty sure I bought banished when it was released in 2014, not 2007.
Thanks, I'm not sure how I got that so wrong. I must have been thinking of a different game.
Try 8.1
I ran windows 8.1 with an aero theme and classic shell on my computer for a number of years back when windows 7 support began to be dropped (even though with ESU, both 7 and 8.1 lost secuity updates around the same time last year) something else interesting I would love for you to take a look at is putting Windows embedded POSReady 7 on a machine, it's the only version of windows 7 still in support and will continue to be until october this year!
Maybe Bionicpup32 (Pupy Linux) is the best in my opinion, whether it still uses an Intel Atom or Intel Pentium Mobile processor.
I just had a look, nice suggestion thanks.
I played the hell out of Defcon back then. Miss those days. I still need to finish Uplink and Darwinia
if you consider Toshiba quality you shouldn't even touch electronics =_=
My old Portégé is really nice inside. But I'm open to hearing about better build quality brands.
@@JanusCycle lenovo never disappoints as far as my experience dell as well but at a higher premium most of the time msi isn't too popular but have pretty decent build quality as well but toshiba man xD thats rough
anything running on an Intel Atom is a waste of time in my option. Too frustrating to use
I was using Sony Ericson myself in those days, I wasn’t in for a heavy phone that wouldn’t fit in my denim ^^ Thank you very much!
Sony Ericsson were also my favourite at the time.
It's Windows RT that is worse than Windows 8
I've never used anything past windows 7.
The Lynx is one of my favorite portable gaming units from the past, as well as the PSP. I was a HUGE supporter for the Atari system and created "The Lynx Gaming Packet" from 1991 to 99 with around 100 pages of game codes, instructions and maps for nearly all of the games. Looking at my binder next to me on my desk, it is full of wonderful Lynx goodies from a former friend I made at Atari who would share lots of cool advertising items, maps and secrets with me during those years. I have 46 game slides; 12 "Atari Adventure" full-color booklets displaying the available titles in 15 pages; 3 "Grey Matters Vol.3" booklets from 1992 mainly covering "Batman Returns", but has 30 pages on all of the Lynx games; the "Atari Explorer Jan/Feb. 1991" magazine with 20 pages on the Lynx and games; a big, folded "Ninja Gaiden" double-sided poster; two white double-pocketed Lynx folders directly from Atari that are full of advertisements, news articles, pamphlets, and store newsletters; full-color 11x17" slick photos of the system and various game ads; tons of news releases directly from Atari, and all of the original "Atari Advantage" and "A.P.E." fan newsletter releases. My booklet full of codes, instructions and maps was sold through the newsletter. My model 2 unit is still in perfectly working condition with all of the games stored in an excellent double holder carrying bag made back then that looks like something you would buy in a store, though it was sold through "Atari Adventure", along with superb Velcro closed, three-way foldable material carrying cases for the cartridges, similar to those slots in your case, but better. I have five of those with all of my games. I only collected the best of the titles, so I have 42 of them. I used to have the store table top display stand, but ditched it years ago. Happily, I do have two of the white "California Games Lynx" T-shirts in mint condition. So yeah, I'm a big fan of the system. I was the first to create instructions on how to play the fractal generator in "Chip's Challenge" and the "Game of Life" in "Zarlor Mercenary". Same for the maps to "Electrocop" and some other game related items. I loved "Slime World" and "Warbirds" the most, but all of the titles were fun. I have all of the game boxes as well, in mint condition, with manuals. I started with the longer version 1 unit and instantly upgraded to the better, sleeker, smaller version 2 when it came out. Real soon, I'll be upgrading the screen to the amazing BennVenn IPS LCD Mod Kit - Lynx 2 screen and have all of the game ROMs on one card with the BennVenn ElCheapoSD-Lynx cartridge.
BlissOS? It's a modern Android for PCs
Where'd you find that port of android I've been looking for that version I cant remember the name of it but the ui is the same
It's on sourceforge, specifically for the S5.
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windows 8 failed once again
lol
I suspect that if you want to play games on that thing your best choice might be reverting it back to Windows XP. I have an old Atom netbook that's a few years newer than that one, but not much, and I remember reading back in the day that despite the fact than that generation of Atom devices always came with W7 many installed XP as a secondary OS just for gaming since the GMA drivers had better performance on XP. I've still managed to run some mid to late 2010's indie games on it but only 2D stuff, for 3D the limit was mid 2000's era games or the rare later game that was optimized to run on a toaster like the original release of "Aaaaa! for the Awesome" (the new remastered version has almost no optimization, it almost killed my modern laptop simply because it expects a dedicated GPU, runs fine on desktop tho).
I really liked windows 8/8.1 personally but used classicstart (now openstart) to bring the start menu back
Wonderful as always. Devices in that form factor with period appropriate atom chips like the z2760 would have been so much fun. They really dropped the ball with such boring devices in the windows 8 hayday.
Everytime janus uploads i feel happy
I thought Windows 8 was a great idea, but forced on the user without giving them a familiar way to use the OS. I also was a fan of Windows Phone 8 and 8.1. The overall concept was such a good idea, but pushed out in an awkward way, plus a change in leadership all but ruined a very special time where MS was the company trying to create an entire ecosystem that integrated the PC with the phone. I will always defend what MS was trying to do with Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. I am a long time Mac guy, but for a few years, MS put out a PC OS and along with Nokia Windows Phones, that did a lot of things right the way Apple did. It was a wasted opportunity after Blamer left the company. I still own a laptop running Windows 8.1 and a Nokia Lumia 928 running WP 8.1. I keep them as they are as evidence of a time where MS almost firgured out how to be more than the Windows people. I wish Windows 8 ran better on this palmtop. It really is exactly the kind of device where Windows 8 would shine. I also miss OG Edge. It was a decent web browser. The Chrome reskin we now have is crap. And so I remain on Mac.