I'm betting a lot of them doesn't know what secular means you can be religious and secular. secular doesn't mean atheist unlike what a lot of people think.

@DustinTheNinja

8 жыл бұрын

A country can still be secular while maintaining a state religion. Look at Denmark or England.

@abucanaan5335

8 жыл бұрын

True I'm religious but prefer a Palestinian secular state

@tarekrahou6529

8 жыл бұрын

+German Engineer - Crossfitter atheist (Vegan) I find your comment offensive.

@tarekrahou6529

8 жыл бұрын

No no I am no turkish, it was a joke, as I thought you were a german atheist Vegan engineer who does crossfit. But you're right even here in France, lots of dumb Muslim think that a secular state increases the number of atheist

@theonetheonlydeganthevegan4392

8 жыл бұрын

Tarek Rahou Oh lol I thought you were offended by my comment about muslims haha sorry about that.

Interesting that the dude whose first name is Jihad is in favor of a secular state without any extremist leanings.

@670ramy

2 жыл бұрын

Jihad in Arabic can also mean struggle and not necessarily holy war. I know Christian Arabs with that name.

@anderasiniestas5800

2 жыл бұрын

jihad so fanatic name lol

@ammanite

2 жыл бұрын

It's just a pretty common name that means to struggle or strive. Stupid point.

@prajodcp7145

2 жыл бұрын

@@ammanite but it does sound ironic

The lady who said that "if it were a secular state, there wouldn't be any relief programs for the poor" clearly hasn't heard of Sweden or Norway or Denmark.

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

she's right, Atheist dont do much charity compared with religious people

@TheBLGL

3 жыл бұрын

Or what “mutual aid” means, seeing as the majority of anarchists are atheists. Not all, of course, but the majority.

@kusari86

3 жыл бұрын

@stophomescapesfakeads Muslims are the largest contributors to charities In The UK

@donfalcon1495

3 жыл бұрын

@@MohdHilal except the facts say the exact opposite! The Scandinavian states who are the most atheistic actually give the most to charity!

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

@@donfalcon1495 will an atheist society keep its ethics if it passes through tough times like Palestinians? We lived without police for more than 70 years, in poverty, war, and without representation, and our streets are safer than Finnish streets. How come Gaza has 20 times less crime than Israeli Arab society, wont Gazans eat each other if they were hungry atheists?

Wow, it's changed so much since I lived there in the 70's, when the majority were more secular. Very sad. The older men wanted a secular state, he's more my generation.

@nolovenohate

8 жыл бұрын

Every Innovation is misguidance and every misguidance is in the hellfire. Quoted: Prophet Mohammed (Peace be unto him) Congratulations; you want Palestine to go into the hellfire. Now feel free to make your excuses and justifications. I can't wait to hear the "We aren't living in the time of the prophet anymore (peace be upon him)" excuse. It never gets old; how stupid it sounds. As If time has an effect on the word of God unless He says so exclusively.

@nayam7048

8 жыл бұрын

+Mohammad Al-Zawahreh Except no one is making innovations to the actual religion. That's like saying any Muslim who lives in a secular country is automatically going to hell.

@YamboBodoni

7 жыл бұрын

_"Every Innovation is misguidance and every misguidance is in the hellfire"_ Interesting. Innovation is the cornerstone of the Western World.

@nolovenohate

7 жыл бұрын

YamboBodoni Innovation is not the proper translation. Also, innovation does not pertain to engineering and science, it speaks of religion. Every innovation of the religion from what God Has sent in perfection is an imperfection/misguidance. If the religion is complete, perfect and solid from the get go; then innovation cannot make it better, only worse. If religion was man-made then innovation would be good; but because this religion is from God, innovation can only be a detriment.

@YamboBodoni

7 жыл бұрын

Mohammad Al-Zawahreh _"Every innovation of the religion from what God Has sent in perfection is an imperfection/misguidance."_ The Universal Declaration on Human Rights is an innovation? Just asking.

Being Arab has no problem but being Islamic may cause many unwanted problems eg: discrimination against non-Muslims (Dhimmi states)

@palleysingh

2 жыл бұрын

True that .. Perfect Example is in Malaysia where we live .. I feel malaysian as my malay brothers, but there are constitutional discirmation against non-muslims. So is the case in more muslim majority countries that are not truly secular. There is double standard. I empathise and feel compassion with what the palestinian go through, but because of my own experiences, i can not support a palestinian islamic state. It has to be secular. Otherwise, you have replaced one problem with another problem .. instead of discrimination of palestinian, which i truly recognise, it will be replaced by discrimination of non-muslims like malaysia, pakistan, brunei, mecca, etc

@israelisthechosen

7 ай бұрын

@@palleysinghtrue

@AlfariziZakaria

5 ай бұрын

​@@palleysinghBut at least you live peacefully in Malaysia

The women were quite disappointing. None of the one's interviewed desired a secular state. More men were secular in this video.

@finnthechao

2 жыл бұрын

uh oh looks like your narrative is falling apart. what, you wanted muslim women to beg you to come save them?

@nomylearnspalestine

19 күн бұрын

​@@finnthechao😂👏🏻💖

I love these older people who really see that everyone should be working together. They believe in justice because they have seen much in their lifetimes and see the family of man. Accepting Buddhist too is amazing.

It's good to know there were some that said secular.

@ethan8445

2 жыл бұрын

"some" but not the majority

The first chap distinctly says the Arabic word Dhimmi near the beginning (first minute) and quite a few other times and that isn’t translated or conveyed by your translator. It’s hard to take this seriously without a proper translation of all the Arabic asked and answered. I know you’re doing a good job with a limited budget but this needs a serious after the fact translation to get the full value from it.

@amitaimedan

8 жыл бұрын

I totally support your oppinion. Sorry, but this is totally unprophetional and can be dengerously missleading.

@junobardo376

8 жыл бұрын

What did he mean then?

@yigalgurevitch2936

8 жыл бұрын

he answers on his Facebook page on the issue facebook.com/coreygilshuster/posts/10154230401594451?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me¬if_id=1464501707728901

@washikiryu

8 жыл бұрын

He did translate "ahel aldhimmi"-> nonmuslims who are monotheistic.

@harooncopeland7485

6 жыл бұрын

He is manipulating the message obviously I have seen what he is doing

These women are unbelievable. How we were raised. We have always been oppressed so we'll stick with it.

@daffalathifilham8028

2 жыл бұрын

They don't feel they've been oppressed, they do that byk their choice, notes oppression

I am Palestinian and i want a secular state... how can a state become Islamic?? can a state pray and fast?? will the state go pilgrim to Mecca?? only individuals may pray and fast and go Hajj. We must struggle for a Secular Socialist Palestinian state where it can welcome Muslims Jews and Christians a like. a State where there will be no room for islamists and dirty zionists. Any Palestinian wants an Islamic state then he should not oppose a jewish state.

@phuckyall6079

7 жыл бұрын

Science and development should be the religion.

@hnys7976

3 жыл бұрын

Palestinians should be secular. When Umar Ibn Khattab RA conquered Jerusalem he encouraged religous freedom and signed the treaty to prove so. Even when Salahuddin retook Jerusalem from the crusaders, he forgave the Christians even though the crusaders slaughtered 100,000 Muslims although he killed those who killed Meccans...

Proud of all those that said secular, I love you Palestinians!

@moetama_

8 жыл бұрын

+SMEGY 89 do all Muslim in the West want sharia ? Don't generalize

@1sanitat1

8 жыл бұрын

I feel like some of those who wanted "Islamic" state didn't fully understand what secular means

@moetama_

8 жыл бұрын

MrDaroy قل لي اي دولة حكمت بالإسلام من قبل؟ من حكموا بحكم يستند إلى الإسلام هم الخلفاء الأربعة فقط حتى الدول التي تدعي حكم الإسلام اليوم ليست إسلامية بل تأخذ مايناسبها وتترك الباقي بل وتظلم به الضعفاء وينطبق هذا على الدول التي خلفت الخلفاء الراشدين ولماذا تنصدم؟ عليك أن تعلم وتتعلم أن هنالك أشخاص بآراء مختلفة وهذا لا يجعلهم أشخاص سيئين كلنا كبشر الا من به أمراض نفسية كداعش مثلا نسعى لشيء واحد حتى لو اظهرنا خلافه وهو تعمير الأرض والبحث عن حياة سعيدة

@LoveDayandAge

8 жыл бұрын

SMEGY 89 I'm not a Muslim, I am an Atheist Arab! We exist, and also liberal secular Muslims.

@LoveDayandAge

8 жыл бұрын

MrDaroy لان انا ملحدة. لو العلمانية اطبقت، المسلمين يقدرو يعلنو دينهم و بحماية الحكومة، و ده حقهم! لو الحكم الإسلامي اطبق، نقدر نقول نفس الشيء عن اقليات دينية اخرى؟

" it should be an Islamic country " " jews and Christians will be equal " Really? Let's ask the Christian and Jewish population of countries like Iran abd syria and libya

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

Syria is a secular country actually. Iran is an Islamic state and has reservation for jews in parliament

I actually liked this video, I was suprised by their reaction

@palestinianjerusalemite-ca7933

8 жыл бұрын

I was surprised too :D We're not cavemen , you only see our negatives so , just saying.

@KingpinEX

8 жыл бұрын

islam al mahdadi very funny, fuck europe.

@KingpinEX

8 жыл бұрын

+Solomon Bur you talking to me? I don't remember visiting your cage last week... idiot

@palestinianjerusalemite-ca7933

8 жыл бұрын

KingpinEX You can't know if Israel is going to be destroyed or not , no one knows , maybe in a one year time it could be totally fucked up like second intifada times. Who know what might happen , greater powers have fallen , so don't say Israel cannot be destroyed , it's wrong grammatically and logically.

@KingpinEX

8 жыл бұрын

+Palestinian Jerusalemite-Canaanite it can fall, but if it does it will fuck up the world. so it can't for the sake of the world, not literally. And second intifada wasn't any near to destroy Israel. the 1972 yom kipur war was a close one.

50 percentage want secular while 50 percentage want religion laws

I swear every Muslim (like every other religionist) has his/her own version of what Islam is.

Religious fundamentalistic People idealize there Religion without seeing the dogmatism,the force. and censorship behind it. If you not allowed to critize a Religion and his laws,its like a ban on thinking and speaking =no Freedom! Every human being should have equal rights. Peace from Germany

A secular state works best when the citizens come from different religions or background like Levant countries. I think it would solve their problems ( political instability, religious strife and oppression) it would liberate religion rather than oppress it as one might think. Those in power are just using religion to their greedy means and ulterior motives and in the process they are tainting it and pushing people away from it. Most people now who are against religion argue that its the bane of all problems in the world. Religion taught or emphasized good ethics and morality, compassion and humanity. It is beautiful But it only causes problems and gets ugly when its mixed with politics and power, because people in power misuse it.

@davidcollomb7730

3 жыл бұрын

Tell that to Lebanon

@sumerianfarmer5363

2 жыл бұрын

we tried bro we tried rip Saddam

Why is the tolerance always towards monotheist religions? What if i am a polytheist idol worshipper? Can i find a place for myself in palestinian society?

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this one really irked me as well. Not to mention what about those that do not worship. Polytheism and Atheism are largely detested in Islam; with the people of the book you at least believe in the same God, albeit apparently we Christians and the Jews are misguided.

@ef2718

Жыл бұрын

A place maybe in the graveyard....

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

​@@ef2718😂😂😂

lets keep caring about primitive and tribal cult mentalities as you see here. its really going to take us far.

@antoniolewis1016

8 жыл бұрын

Primitive and tribal cult mentalities carried 98% of living organisms into the present. It also carried 99% of humanity into the 19th century. Don't take them so lightly.

@harooncopeland7485

6 жыл бұрын

Actually I was thinking with all the technology we could cut the hand off a lot easier now days and with less pain, no? I think you're just making excuses not to have Sharia because you're a wuss and love sin.

@wyqtor

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevebeck312It's not secularism's fault if the people themselves reject education and advancement. For example, Palestinians would have a lot more to gain in education and advancement if they actively petitioned to be incorporated into Israel as an autonomous region akin to Catalonia in Spain or South Tyrol in Italy.

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

we lived without police for 70 years, can your culture handle that situation for 70 days?

Your translator does not translate properly. Please do switch him out. I'm a native Arabic speaker.

@mahadljama4578

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you negative he doesn't has to be exactly but as long he puts the points across that is find

@theendurance

3 жыл бұрын

Translating from Arabic to English (or any language to English) is always going to be inaccurate. Arabic has a lot of phrases and words that don't exist in English, vice versa.

Mate you need to get better translaters, each and every interview was completely inaccurate with loads of wrong senescence that completely changed what they were trying to say.

I’d seriously ask the ones who said non-Muslims should have to pay extra taxes for not giving zakat if they’d be ok with western countries charging Muslims more for not tithing….They’d cry discrimination. I wish the Brits and French would’ve left this land to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk so he could’ve turned it secular.

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

I have heard muslim apologists make the argument that an Islamic state gives special privileges to non-Muslims because non-Muslims are exempted from Zakah and only have to pay jizya which is (in absolute terms) usually (but not always) lesser than zakah (which is compulsory for Muslims). They claim that as a result, the non Muslims pay less taxes than muslims which is discriminatory against the majority Muslims.

So Jizya is racketeering!? Such nice people. They let you live if you pay. Yay :D

@ammanite

2 жыл бұрын

The translation is weak. That's not what they're saying and also not what it means.

@frogtownroad9104

2 жыл бұрын

That’s just taxes…..

@SRBOMBONICA86

Жыл бұрын

Ха ха ха

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

They will say that jizya is less than zakah so it is actually privileging non muslims over muslims.

I'm sorry but this new translator is not translating anything well

@dani4ever

8 жыл бұрын

I'm still not sure but I think the translators are kind of randomly picked. But I'm probably wrong.

@fwb41

8 жыл бұрын

Do you think Shuster is doing that On Purpose...getting translators who are either intentionally inaccurate, or are amateur Arabic students....maybe not even real Arabs?

@KahroSynetic

8 жыл бұрын

He should have kept the girl, this one even adds stuff, he like when corey asked him did he say to sum up or did you add it, in fact he added it

@fwb41

8 жыл бұрын

In other words...is Shuster playing the 'Clever Manipulator' with this?

@KahroSynetic

8 жыл бұрын

No, I'm just saying that the previous translator was doing her job better. I would have tought that he'd have learnt arabic by now lol

First guy saying "for all muslims". Palestinians would not like it if Palestine was suddenly flooded with Senegalese, Chadian and Sudanese muslims.

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

Exactly lol😂😂

for the people here who keep mumbling about jizya : jizya is a tax on non - muslims zakat is a tax on muslims meaning = we both pay taxes , they ust have different names because we have different religions ! if jizya is not paid then what will the non - muslims pay ?!! nothing ?!!! in other countries it's called tax , in Islam it has other names

@samuelvimes7686

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Jizya is an additional tax on non-muslims. Basically it's Islam acting as the mafia for asking protection money

@adam00201

5 жыл бұрын

Stop with the Taqqiya

@nananananananananana1926

5 жыл бұрын

@drc ula it's not taqiyya. Muslims pay mandatory 2.5% charity tax AND we have to be drafted into the military. Suddenly it's so evil and diabolical that a non-Muslim has to just pay a TAX to compensate for the draft and charity exemption? Israel sends people to jail for avoiding a draft. We just ask them to pay some money.

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

@@nananananananananana1926 OTOH non-muslims must pay a special tax that, while it exempts them from service, it bars them from higher office and also from owning weapons... Meaning a government that is financed by them but where they don't have higher positions or any means to defend themselves. Basically, we should pay protection money otherwise you guys can come anytime and punish us with impunity. Do you really think we would accept that? Israel sends Jewish citizens to jail if they avoid draft while they don't force Arabs (they can serve if they want to). But they still give Arabs voting rights, they can serve as judges, as MPs, as ministers, even as Presidents or Prime Ministers... They also don't pay a special tax based on their religion.

@nananananananananana1926

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sedna063 Nobody advocates for a Jizya system today. I'm defending a practice that used to exist under historical empires as having been legitimate for its time. Also, it's not just a military exemption; it's also an exemption from paying taxes to help the poor. The jizya was instituted as more or less a compensatory measure. Also, there is no point in empirical history where non-Muslims were barred from owning weapons, so that's not true. Muslim rule allowed general legal and religious autonomy for minorities, but they were still subjects under the law and therefore obligated to pay some form of tax. That was a Jizya. Not hard to understand, and pretty clear-cut. Theres no blackmail or extortion.

They don't even know what secularism mean 7:57 cause you can still muslim because secularism means seperating the religoun from the country(palestanian christian was here ) ✌ هن مش عارفين شو يعني علمانيه لان بتقدر تكون مسلم و متدين بالدوله العلمانيه لان العلمانيه هي فصل الدين عن الدوله (فلسطيني مسيحي كان هنا )✌

@omarhab3689

3 жыл бұрын

كفو

@-sheqel8303

2 жыл бұрын

هدول مغسولي الدماغ سحروهم رجال الدين بالطائفية والتعصب والرجعية انت لاحظ لما بيسألها: بدك دولة دينية؟ بتقلو اه بعدين بيسألها - يعني بدك تخليهم يدفعوا جزية؟ بتقلو لا ههههه انو انا بدي اكل شاورما بس بديش لحوم عشان انا نباتي التناقض هاد شو بيعني ؟ بيعني ان الانسان يلي بداخلها بيرفض فكرة الدولة الدينية بس خايفة تقول لا .. لانو رجال الدين سيطروا على عقلها واقنعوها انها هيك رح تصير كافرة فبتحاول ترضي فطرتها الانسانية وبنفس الوقت بتحاول ترضي المعتقد يلي شربوها اياه رجال الدين وبدهاش تخسر شي منهم ف راحت اخترعت دولة دينية على مزاجها هدول مساكين هاي البنت هي ضحية حرفيا ضحية لرجال الدين وضحية لهنية والزهار والعريفي وامثالهم الله يخلصنا منهم

@nadeemhamoud9186

2 жыл бұрын

I'm atheist Palestinian these answers give me depression

Jizya: the original form of racketeering

@kingmir5

3 жыл бұрын

More like extortion

@kewasroetkovraulpodriguez9682

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah? So no one else throughout history made minorities pay some sort of tax when they were living under them? Not just Muslims you ignorant fool

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

its an alternative to Zakat which non-muslims dont pay

@mesut2030

3 жыл бұрын

Actually muslim pays more. We pay income tax and also zakat , if we have gold we have to pay zakat if we have business we must pay zakat .

@kusari86

3 жыл бұрын

@@mesut2030 income tax is against sharia. Zakat is different

just saying throughout real history, there was not a single Historic Palestinian state also no Palestinian government of any kind until long after 1959-1964 that's when the first Arab people started calling themselves Palestinian and formed a Government

@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982

2 жыл бұрын

because they were under a bigger ruler or goverment,,and there was also not a single historic israeli state and no israeli goverment of any kind until 1948

@jonnajohnsons2684

2 жыл бұрын

@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 yes there was, go educate yourself. You clearly need it if you’re going to start making stuff up

@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnajohnsons2684,who was the president?

@jonnajohnsons2684

2 жыл бұрын

@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 who was the president of Palestine, oh wait there never was!!!!

@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnajohnsons2684 so there was no israel president?

I’m Muslim and I’m secular but that doesn’t mean I’m not religious.

@Godzillamonstrosity

6 күн бұрын

Yeah well seems like you are the rare Muslim with a functioning brain

Some are quick to answer that they want an Islamic Palestine, considering that the majority is Palestinian and not thinking about applying Sharia when they want a more specific question. You should ask them whether you want to apply Islamic law or not. Many of them will respond to a secular state.

horrible, horrible translations, alot of things were omitted

@user-gu4tw2uf6s

3 жыл бұрын

for reaaaaaaaaaal

Just to clarify, in Islamic law, both Muslims and non-Muslims pay taxes, the Muslims call it Zakat and they pay it for the sake of God, while the non-Muslims call it Jizya and pay it for the sake of the Goverment.

@antimonycup7066

8 жыл бұрын

From a western, individualistic perspective, a religious tax is payed voluntary, because religion is a choice (versus race, for example). If non-muslims are obligated to pay a separate tax *by the government* this is unequality. Question, do the Zakat and the Jizya end up at the same amount?

@CatBahptista

8 жыл бұрын

+Antimony Cup +1

@bkkrr

8 жыл бұрын

If the government is suppose to be Islamic then both Jizya and Zakat should be obligatory so everyone is paying eventually. As for the amount, I could'nt find enough info about Jizya as no islamic country right now is implementing it but for Zakat it's 2.5% of the annual income of an adult. Jizya amount should be close to that but there's no fixed rate.

@antimonycup7066

8 жыл бұрын

Baker AlHadrami That would be more agreeable, but if the government exacts them both, that would make the Zakat a religious tax only in name IMO. Thank you for your reply and effort.

@phuckyall6079

7 жыл бұрын

No, the jizya is 20% for the poor, 50% for the middle and 80% for the rich. Muslims must pay 2.5%. Extremely unfair. The jizya was a form to humiliate Jews and Christians. That was also one of their tactics to forcefully convert them

The guy at 12:45 just warmed my heart, these are everyday Palestinians, not the ones the media is trying to show you.

@youtubeusername1239

6 ай бұрын

How do you feel about of the rest of the video?

@lives4datube

6 ай бұрын

@@youtubeusername1239 5/9 were pro secular if you go back and count

0:21 that is honestly really touching

@ArcDar

Жыл бұрын

I am crying

secular is the Best answer

@theendurance

7 жыл бұрын

only answer

@Mitchery

5 жыл бұрын

It's not the best answer, it's the only solution.

@shamskiki2135

5 жыл бұрын

I prefer that u stay in your bussiness and dont put your nose into other people lives they know what best for them abd u dont know what you are talking abiut and dont know abything about islamic laws because if u do you would wish that the whole world be like that

'they will be equal under islamic law' and when has this been the case? even in the sharia-law based malaysia (which is a very different exception than the rest of sharia-based islamic nation, thanks to 30% of its population being nonmuslims), there will be religious discrimination (eg: you can and privileged to preach islam to others and convert to it, but thats impossible to convert out of islam and hard to preach nonmuslim religion as muslims do), other islamic state with sharias? way worse discriminations thats the reality, thus this shows how different they interpret words like 'equal treatment' 'justice' etc compared to nonmuslim ones

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but if you point this out they will get very defensive and shout „islamophobia“.

@ajorbista

8 ай бұрын

Muslims in Malaysia also have the consequence that their partners have to convert to Islam to marry. They’re banned from buying alcohol due to “islam” on the ID and Muslims cannot opt out of Islam or convert to another religion even if they converted to Islam. For non Muslims they’re discriminated due to the education system giving bumiputera special privileges, even with the purchase of land and properties, it’s easier and cheaper for bumiputera, if ur non bumi and you want to lead a state or even a country it’s a long shot unless you’re in Penang. And no, LGE or Anthony Loke wont have a chance to be PM due to their race

I think the idea of Arabic Islamic state and secularism should be depended on the people,for example,the Mughal Empire flourished under a some form of secularism as majority were Hindus but after imposing sharia onto the Hindus,it rebelled.

Also you can notice that the ones answering with Islamic seem to be not vastly educated on the subject, they're just spewing out the answers that they think would be right.

@daffalathifilham8028

2 жыл бұрын

Same with you, you think you are right

12:53 Wow what an answer !! ❤✌

@hasanliee7361

4 жыл бұрын

This is an old Palestinian lives in Jerusalem and Israeli of course he’s more open minded than the youth live in West Bank. The social media drives young people crazy

That's why you don't have country

@lubegahamos6559

4 жыл бұрын

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I don't understand why did you have to add "Arab" in the question if they were secular or Islamic they will still be Arabs it is very strange question

Hi has Corey done a video with the question: What is Zionism?

@ruben1580

8 жыл бұрын

I think he once did 'are you Zionist?', where he also asked your question (or something similar).

ppl take Jizya more than it's it's the only tax on non Muslims while Muslims have to pay "zkah" for example

@berkoman1

8 жыл бұрын

come on...zkah is charity, and you have to pay if you have the ability to do it according to you income. Jizya has to be payed by non musslims,no matter the income and without thoughtfulness. How dare you even compare the both???

@abucanaan5335

8 жыл бұрын

+Itamar Berko איתמר ברקו‎ zakat goes to the poor but it's mandatory just like the jizya

@Daveissa87

8 жыл бұрын

Lets be honest. The jizya was nothing more than extortion to steal from non Muslims under Islamic rule. Sure, you can worship as you please(more like how we allow) but you have to pay us for this priveledge. That's pretty disgusting.

@MAYONNAISEMOOSE

7 жыл бұрын

MrDaroy he wouldnt.

why do you pick translators who don't translate things accurately ?? I know its difficult to find someone who speaks arabic to work with you on your project .. but still .. The first man said: non-muslims in the past paid jizya (Small amount of money) in return to live protected and in peace and as for palestine being islamic .. he said no .. non muslims wont have to pay .. because back then was a different time Last, keep it up Corey. even though sometimes you are biased but in general its a nice project that i would always like to watch

@giuseppegigliotti8494

8 жыл бұрын

He is a friend of mine and I can assure you that he is not biased.

@khalilturjman2010

8 жыл бұрын

he is biased

Dude starting at 9:00 minutes spoke well I think.

Do a video on "Are arab , egypt , libya are secular or religious ??"

@prajodcp7145

2 жыл бұрын

Egypt was secular it is now becoming more secular

03:43 shows palestine only for muslims not for non muslims .muslims were foreign occupiers in israel ......I stand with israel

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

Islam is a religion you know?

@soniahemmati2372

2 жыл бұрын

Muslim isn't an ethnicity, who do you exactly mean by Muslims? Palestinians according to genetic studies are local to Israel/Palestine and speak Arabic and are Muslim because of The original Arabs from the peninsula colonized them for centuries. The same way Latin America speaks Spanish and is Christian. Israeli Jews aren't completely genetically local to the land and have significant ancestry from their host population as well.

so no democracy

@antoniolewis1016

8 жыл бұрын

Watch the video, man. Many people said they wanted secularism, and they clearly said that.

@scoshi6592

8 жыл бұрын

yeh just like israel is a jewish state NO FREAKING DEMOCRACY

@maormizrahi4192

8 жыл бұрын

+Hou Brainoxious you dont know what the idea of a jewish and democratic state means...

@scoshi6592

8 жыл бұрын

Maor Mizrahi tf?

@maormizrahi4192

8 жыл бұрын

Hou Brainoxious nice response.

i have a question for palestinians: do you really think you will be able to run a country? it seems that the moment "palestine will be free" an extremely harsh civil war will break out between the Hamas and the PLO, worse than the civil war in gaza.

Around 11:00 What did she mean with Hadassah hospital treating Arab people differently?

These people are too dangerous to the world.

Yeah my fathers family is Muslim and I'm half Palestinian. I however am not a Muslim and I really never claimed to be Muslim myself as I always felt that religion was silly, I'd still identify as ex Muslim though. Anyways, I consider myself an American before anything but I have to say that If Palestine became an Islamic ran nation I'd just give up on that whole region. I'd never give it another thought.

@scarab088

8 жыл бұрын

nice buzzwords fam, as much as I am against Islam It still doesn't mean that I am a fan of israeli policy. I look at this from a nationalist standpoint in the first place so the nazi comment only emboldens my position on the issue. I will be the first to say I support what Israel stands for, but that I wish my fathers people were as receptive to the ideas of freedom and liberty and that they as a people would replace the israelis in this right. I say it like this because, I know without the shadow of a doubt that the land belongs to the Palestinians (and dont give me the whole "people without a land for a land without a people" spiel thats not gonna fly, also don't remind me that Palestine wasn't a country because neither was israel before 1948).

@user-wk2uf5yo7x

5 жыл бұрын

Your not an ex Muslim and your father must be westernized to the core so no you are not Muslim you never practiced never read the Quran so stfu and don't come to the middle East it's not like they wait for your arrival you piece of khara

@Achineche

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-wk2uf5yo7x thats the problem of most of the muslims, not being tolerant... and what if a muslim choose to being a ex muslim? It's his/her bissnes not yours, it doesn't affect to your live what other people do.

@user-wk2uf5yo7x

4 жыл бұрын

@@Achineche actually thats not how it works has muslims we are a community and we are responsible for one another

@user-wk2uf5yo7x

4 жыл бұрын

@kt95 gy i'm not palestinian i'm morrocan youcan add me on twitter no dm @salihabensaid1

you need to edit better this videos, put subtitles when the person is talking, we dont want to hear the interpreter explaining and debating

im Palestinian and my parents are different religion christian and muslim.. and I would would prefer.a secular country than islamic because one religion should not dominate one over the other. there should be laws that applies to all

I see that Arabs and non-Arabs don't understand the purpose of JIZYAH at all. Under the old Ottoman empire, Jizyah was required for non-muslims for "protection" as they say. This is because the Ottoman soldiers were often at war, whether it was expansionary or defensive. Non-muslims DID NOT HAVE TO PARTICIPATE in combat roles, so as compensation, they had to give something else in return. This was JIZYAH. But that would be irrelevant under a Palestianian State because Christians and Muslims would defend it all the same.

@SpiceBoy7UK23

8 жыл бұрын

If i was running Israel, i'd make non-jews (e.g Arabs) pay JIZYAH myself. Non-jews are not compelled to military duties, so in return, if they paid Jizyah (or some form of additional tax), it would be fair to all. Since Arab Israelis have the same passport and rights, they should give something in exchange for the protection of IDF soldiers & security officers. You Israelis could benefit from this. (Arabs could benefit to, it might encourage more of them to participate in IDF/military service for their own good. Serving together in the military can help build bridges between all of you)

@masterbaf

8 жыл бұрын

Well that's rather interesting..

@levant8700

8 жыл бұрын

Not exclusive to Ottomans bro, it's been like that since the advent of Islam.

@phuckyall6079

7 жыл бұрын

The ottoman empire did a type of jizua tax on Christians by kdnaping young boys and making them into soildet slaves and then converting them to Islam. They became their elite soilders and retired with pensions and harem. Jizua tax was 20% for the poor, 50% for the middle and 80% for the rich. It was a humiliating tax and it forced many to convert. Muslims just paid 2.5%.

@elkaramani

7 жыл бұрын

no that is no tax, most of the time (poor) christian families would offer their son to become a janissary, since janissaries were often placed in high ranking roles in the government and military.

Jizya = extortion

@junobardo376

8 жыл бұрын

Its a sort of extra tax right? What do they mean that it is for protection? Proection from who?

@tarekrahou6529

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe this tax has its reasons in the past, but now, it's completly BS

@abucanaan5335

8 жыл бұрын

+anfr protection from the state, the money eventually goes back to the community, unlike Muslims, non Muslims don't have to serve in armies if they pay the jizya. Plus Muslims have to pay a tax called zakat and still serve in the army so in a way, it's more rights for the non muslim

@junobardo376

8 жыл бұрын

+Muhammad Taha protection from the state against who. That they would be better of does not make sense to me.

@junobardo376

8 жыл бұрын

+MrDaroy But why not have them all pay the same amount of tax? If muslims cant pay they get help as well right? Is is something like wellfare? Are there countries that still use this tax etc?

"Palestinians:" Are you arabs? If yes, what does Palestinian then mean? If no, what are you then and what does that mean?

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

you cant justify our ethnic cleansing, and expect us to accept it! maybe you can convince the whole world its ok to remove people who allegedly migrated 1400 years ago or strip them from basic human rights, but you will fail to convince the Palestinians

Jizya is in the Torah when God commands the Israelites to march up to a city and offer them peace as long as they pay tribute by forced labor or $$$.

Palestinian State?! You guys really believe this is gonna happen ?! Come on now ... Seriously...

@fwb41

8 жыл бұрын

How about Tibet...do you think the Tibetans will ever have Their own country (they've been under occupation for a long time, too)?..you should see how young Tibetan women protest Their occupation, by setting themselves on fire (saw it on a You Tube video...Mind Blowing)

@Yasserj7

8 жыл бұрын

+fwb41 - i don't think Tibet will ever get their autonomy ... No. China is too strong and won't ever let it happen. I've seen some of the footage of buddhist monk setting themselves on fire as well as the museum of torture ( where They show the different types of blades and weapons the Chinese uses to Torture their political activists). But i stopped watching after a while ... It's a bit too much too take man , it's so gruesome and violent...

secular for all

I love how they say that they want an Islamic state but they say some secular stuff

@ae-Michael

8 ай бұрын

Islam is an official religion in Malaysia but non-muslim don't have to pay jizya and Sharia law only applies to Muslim.

how much is jizya? Is it true that people who pay jizya do not have to pay zakat?

@shaykhabuahmedal-kafirista4945

8 жыл бұрын

There is no maximum limit. That's the trick. A caliph can ask you 1 or 1000000 depends on his will. If you refuse to pay, you are killed. lulz.

the translator isn't very good

OMFG .. this is a way too much ignorance than I can take in one video, a way too much! good luck with the future 24th Arab Muslim state. long live Israel (Palestinian ex Muslim)

@meredithe6986

8 жыл бұрын

The problem is Israel is surrounded by Arab/Islamic countries. With a percentage of Islamic Jihadist groups salivating at the chance to destroy it. Just look at whats going on in syria. If it was not Jewish it would cease to exist. By the way being Jewish is an ethnicity; just like being italian or french or arab; its a bloodline. 20% of Israel is not jewish, that is a very large number compare it to its neighboring countries. Another fact is 10,000 palestineans applied for israeli citizenship just last year; going against their government; this was considered tyranical. The palestineans understand that Israel is not out to kill them. Look, i'm not saying israel is perfect but it has tried to make peace several times with the palastineans and their arab leaders always refuse.

@ramio1983

8 жыл бұрын

I am confused. What's your issue? I'd say 60% wanted a Secular state. How is that not promising? I was thinking it'd be 30 % or less.

@junobardo376

8 жыл бұрын

+ramio1983 You dont know how maby refused to take part in this interview. And maybe if he asked in other parts it would be different? Besides that, how can a couple of people give you an overall %

@OfirMusic

8 жыл бұрын

Israel is much better in every measurable way, idiot. That's why you are using Israeli tech right now. That's why it's an Israeli talking to Balestinians and not the other way around. The Arab world is 500 years behind Israel.

@gregari7614

8 жыл бұрын

+hatter00 In "zionist" Israel over 1million arabs living together with the Jews while arabs countries are Judenfrei. How about that? 😀

17:35 So if he was in America (where it's 85% Christian, 2% Jewish, 1% Muslim, 10% of many religions and 2% Atheist) he would agree that Christian law should be in placed and all non Christians should pay taxes and respect the Christian majority who are much much much bigger than Muslims should be respected by Muslims and Muslims should obey the Christian majority and not insult them in anyway?

Mob protection money. Happens in corrupt systems. "I won't kill you as long as you pay me ransom money every month. Tomorrow I'll want more." Notice the prayer spot on the first interviewee's forehead.

Jihad said "secular" LMFAO!!!

2:32 Forcing people to pay taxes for protection because they are a different religion or don't believe is discrimination

@docorwhatever2168

2 ай бұрын

How? They are literally protecting them. They are just taking payment for it.

@bryanbradley6871

2 ай бұрын

@@docorwhatever2168 So, white people in the west can start doing that?

You should get me as a translator

Do they realize that the moon was never split into 2 and that's there's many errors in their koram

0:28 and 3:45 make me want to be even more of a non-Muslim. How are they different from the extreme Israelis in how it would be for non-Jews in Israel. Actually, Islamic Palestine seems worse than that. 5:30, 8:55, 12:56(cutest...Buddhists...what about the Hindus?) give me some hope and thank you. *love* 🤗😘😘. Are they saying secular just because the camera's in their face?

@kusari86

3 жыл бұрын

Secularism has been one of the most destructive ideologies of our time. So it shouldn't be a surprise that people are not for it. Historically speaking in this part of the world Islamic governments have been the most tolerant and most prosperous Historically.

@davidroscoe3815

Жыл бұрын

@@kusari86 Yes very tolerant... except when they aren't. It's interesting Palestinians and their supporters scream "Zionism is racism" because a Jewish State is a racist State. Never are those same accusations levelled at the many Islamic States?

@kusari86

Жыл бұрын

@@davidroscoe3815 Islam is not a race. Assuming you're American. Would you be okay with your country becoming a White Anglo Saxon state and stealing land from people whos background is Black, Irish, Native, Italian, German, etc Then placing them in concentration camps and administering what South African leaders have refered to as Apartheid?

@davidroscoe3815

Жыл бұрын

@@kusari86 No I'm not from the USA. You illustrate the problems of many of the anti Israel anti Jewish brigade, wilful ignorance. Jews are not a race, they are an ethnoreligious group so I guess by your measure Zionism is now OK. Where do you think the word Jew comes from? Jews are named after the Kingdom of Judea where they come from. Clearly you don't know what a concentration camp is and I could not give two hoots about what a couple of corrupt radical South Africans think. Misusing the label of apartheid does a real disservice to the Blacks and Coloureds who suffered under real apartheid. Remember there was never a country called Palestine. Arabs there identified as Syrians and never referred to themselves as Palestinians until recently. keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.

Ignorance... ignorance everywhere

the translators were pretty bad at translating

not going to lie, his entire region got screwed since they converted to Islam.

Jihad, the anti-extremist XD

@mkinjustice8231

8 жыл бұрын

It's the exact opposite

@CatBahptista

8 жыл бұрын

I found that so funny xD as soon as I saw his name I was like "Oooh boy, brace yourselves", but then out of the blue comes this super nice, chill guy. xD Do not judge a book by it's cover, or a person by their name!

@antimonycup7066

8 жыл бұрын

He seemed like a sensible, nice guy. I'd drink a cup of coffee with that Hussein guy too. I bet he has some wisdom to impart. [edit:word choice error]

actually its very fair...non muslim pay jizya, muslim pay 'zakat'...2.5% from the salary/saving... and one more 'zakat fitrah' once a year...

@Jay-cy4js

6 жыл бұрын

turkey is the only modern peaceful liberal Muslim country because its secular! but majority of Turks are Muslim and some are secular !What the hell are you saying ? One of the reasons many fear Muslims and bully Muslims is because Muslims want a caliphate , many people are more encouraged to help Palestinians when they see they want to live according to the 21st century and keep their religion personal rather then force it by the government ! Also you want people to live your way ? People actually wanted to help Palestinians when they heard they want secularism the second people hear Muslims want a secular state ,nobody wants them in the west or to even give them their own countries ! Also many Muslims are liberal and want religion away from politics , they want democracy and freedom !!! Why should anyone help Palestinians if they want A forceful Islamic caliphate ? What about the Freedom of the people ? Theocracies will be labeled as human rights violation countries and nobody ever shows any mercy to many Muslims like mayanmar,Syria even Palestine because they say why should we if they don't want to live in peace and normally like everyone else but rather want don't want freedom or democracy ,be different then everyone else and force religion through the state and punish Muslims ,And non Muslims !

the old man was nice. he repeated and confiremed twice christians are our brothers.

Do Mizrahi and Sefardi Israeli's feel as much of a connection to the Holocaust as Askenazi Israeli's?

The mafia also asks for money for 'protection".

In my humble opinion, as a Indonesian Muslim, i love to see Palestine grow up as a secular state. Islamic state can effect more trouble accross the Christian Palestinian and othe religion include Shia or Sufi. There's more Europe NGO and humanities activist who defending Palestinian to the world and most of them are Christian. We must tolerant and subjected all of Christian like that as a human and brother. Even Palestine near in Arabic country, but all Christian in Palestine have hard fight to against Zionism and speak it loud than the arabic leader. Sorry for my bad english.

@KamalReza

8 жыл бұрын

+Gohan CC "i love to see", btw thanks for your nice words :)

He said the dhimmis اهل الذمة muslim dont understand that this is the problem. I'am lebanease Christian and i'll always support Israel against these people and I'll never pay jiziya. A lot of hypocrisy when they say other religion there is no oppression. In Muslim countries they pushed out all christians znd jews yazidis etc. But really I think thé palestinians are the most secular in arab countries

I am surprised there are so many answers for secularism. I wonder if ISIS's push for Caliphate has any influence on this mindset, or perhaps it has always been there.

JUST BECOME SECULAR, GUYS, YO

"There are no taxes for Non-muslims, in Islam". Liar or ignorant.

@MohdHilal

3 жыл бұрын

Jizya is alternative to Zakat, if minorities dont pay Jizya that means they wont pay any tax

As far as I know, the Islamic State versus Secular State is around 50%-%50% in the West Bank, and 90%-10% in Gaza.

@riyadhsueeiti5292

4 жыл бұрын

For older generation (45 y.o+) it's 90-100% secular in both gaza and the west bank

The question should have been Arab Islamic or Arab Secular.

India's majority population is hindu but India is a secular country. Learn And Love From India 🇮🇳❤️

we all pay Jizya now but with different name (TAX). way back Jizya is a payment for non-Muslims of living in the Muslims lands and it's symbolic that shows Muslims are higher than non-Muslims

@palestinianjerusalemite-ca7933

8 жыл бұрын

No one is higher than anyone , you don't have more eyes or legs or achieved something they didn't. We're all humans , stop thinking you're better than anyone else.

@DataMysterium

8 жыл бұрын

This is how it is. Take it or leave it, no one force you to except it. and you don't have the right to make me except your opinion. keep your stop thinking for your self.

Non Muslims don’t have to pay Zakat though, which is basically around the same amount (2.5% of ones net earnings) Non Muslims are exempted from military service and can have their own court systems

Ummmm, I think the producer misunderstands the concept of jizyah in Islam. When a nation/country/state is ruled by a Muslim government, and therefore have laws, build and repair roads, are responsible for uplifting the economy etc, and also have an army to protect the entire nation, if there are non-Muslim citizens living in the country, they pay a tax for all of those services, especially for the protection of any outside military attacks on its citizens. Muslims in that land pay zakat, and probably govenrment fees for services also. There are so many nice examples of people of other faiths living in Muslim lands throughout history and they all lived in peace. Also, this is similar to how we pay tax in the country we live today in exchange for good quality of life and govt services .

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

While I don't mind paying taxes, I mind paying them on a discriminatory tax status. And Zakat is fixed above a certain income. Jizyah is at the disgression of the ruler. It also cements that they are not equal to Muslims - after all, how far can non-muslims come up the ranks of power in an Islamic state. Your examples are those of a submissive subpopulace that was left alone. It wasn't an idyllic "and they lived happily ever after". Today, we are further than this and share nations regardless of religion and all pay the same taxes regardless of religion.

You question is a bit odd - surely a state could be Arab and secular, or Muslim and non-Arab? I hope that the reason that many didn't want a secular state is based on a misinterpretation. There are two kinds of secularism, the English and the French model. The English model is that the state keeps its nose out of religion and everyone can do as they wish as long as it doesn't break a law - religion is protected from the state. The French model is that everyone must act the same, religion is suppressed and allowed only a very limited role to prevent it getting power over the state - this is the French model. In the US and other English-speaking places we use the English model, but the Palestinians are probably more familiar with the French model, which is the one Turkey follows. That is what I see in some of the answers - people are afraid they wouldn't be allowed to be religious, wear a veil, etc. in a secular state.

@alexanderboehmler6451

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you mean the US model. England is not a secular state, but it has a state church: the Church of England (Anglican Church).

allow me to clear up the jizya issue, since it is only fair that western non-muslims should know before perceiving it as a hostile/regressive taxation on non muslims. Hypothetically in a theocracy, muslims every year pay an percentage of their assets as Zakat(charity) 2.5-3%. Jizya, similarly back in the the days was the state taxes for non muslims as they were not obligated to pay zakat and usually they percentage of jizya was lower than that of zakat. As of the 21st century, if im not wrong even theocracies dont have the jizya system in place anymore, even KSA and Iran. Citizens of these countries muslims and non both pay state taxes with the addition of muslims paying the zakat. As for the jizya system itself, it was a thing that worked back in those days, instead of forced conversions or exile ir POWs, it provided an alternative for a multi cultural, religious and pluralistic society. It was less of "protection money" more about state treasury and redistribution of income. Dhimmis means protected people, dhimmitude means people entrusted on to us not 2nd class citizens, like alot of them would like to portray as... In Fact it was the lack of dhimmitude and jizya that lead the berbers and moors to be exiled from Spain, cause of the conversion or declared heretics. Maybe with the exception of IS in Iraq, Jizya is a thing of the past in most Muslim Majority States and Islamic Theocracies.

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

Frankly, governments have evolved a lot since 7th century. Can't just have a ruler and a few courts and some guys in the military anymore. Either way, I would not be interested in a state that treats me less just because of my religious beliefs. You have your right to worship and I have mine. As long as we both respect each other's belief we will be fine. But it doesn't work when a society is organised according to the religious beliefs of one group. Not talking about weekends or so. But law and justice.

That policy of different religions in government is smart Lebanon uses that. The president the person with the most power is Christian. I don’t think he should be in more control just because he is Christian but that’s the way it is. The prime minister is Muslim

Secularism does not preclude nationalism; a secular Arab state is almost always going to be a nationalistic Arab state. The question is incorrectly posed

I think the problem here is, other than the weak translation (from the guy, especially), there are a couple of fundamental misunderstandings going on: 1- A lot of people think "secular" means atheist. 2- The people answering mean "Arab, Islamic State" in the same way Israel means "Jewish State." Not that the law will be Shariah Law, but that the identity of the state will be as such. This is how most of the neighboring states define themselves, as well, and none of them apply Shariah Law on a wide scale (similar to Israel and Palestine, today, it is limited to marriage/family law and inheritance law). Do I agree with them? Additionally, the state can be "Arab" in nature, without necessarily being Islamic. Anyway, I disagree with them on it being a necessity but that's largely what they mean. While Corey's follow up question on jizya seems to be to clarify what they mean, people either don't understand it or it is just theoretical to them. There isn't a single country in the world that applies jizya today, including the ones that do claim to apply Shariah. So, it certainly wouldn't happen in the more "liberal" and multi-religious Palestine. Finally, one or more people claimed that non-Muslims would live under Islamic Law, but that isn't really true. The "equality" under the law also implies that they are able to live under their own religious laws, in Islamic jurisprudence-though no states today do that either.

@Sedna063

2 жыл бұрын

1. Are you willing to bet on it? I am really not. Just because I am really careful with Islamic states in general - they typically tend to become a lot worse for non-muslims. 2. Good - it is a very discriminatory tax system. 3. There are some states that allow religious laws - I largely disagree with it. Anyway, this video is certainly very interesting.

@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sedna063 can i enter your country without visa? why i have to convert my nationality to have the same right as you?

@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sedna063 there are many state in US that have a different law, why someone in Texas cant use the law that implemented in LA?

So "Dawlat Falasteeen 'asl Waqf Islami" means "double click to edit" in Arabic....Huh! My Arabic is getting better and better throigh these videos.

One interviewee said that because one is jewish or foreign, he gets better treatment at Israeli hospitals than Arabs from within or without the country. NOT TRUE. New to Israel as a Jew in 1985, I ended up waiting in line at Kupat Holim for 5 hours. When I was treated, I was told to use yogurt on my face and cucumber slices on my eyes. After a few days of it not working, I went to a Palestinean friend in east Jerusalem right after, and he brought me a Christian doctor who gave me topical antibiotics. The problem solved in 24 hours.

Look at these guys the nation of which is being torn apart,yet wants an islamic state and doesnt want equality. I want somebody to explain how does that work? I dont mean offense , just wanted to know?