Oxygen Not Included - Tutorial Bites - Specific Heat Capacity and Thermal Conductivity

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This tutorial bite for Oxygen Not Included explains Specific heat Capacity (SHC) and Thermal Conductivity (TC), which are 2 important real world concepts for heat transfer. It covers what they are and how to use them in the game to choose materials.
0:00 - Intro and definitions
0:32 - Specific Heat Capacity (SHC) - Explanation
2:23 - Thermal Conductivity (TC) - Explanation
2:58 - Applications of SHC in Oxygen Not Included
3:35 - Specific Heat Capacities of Liquids
4:27 - Specific Heat Capacities of Gases
5:10 - Thermal Conductivity of solids
7:22 - Outro
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  • @heckrum
    @heckrumАй бұрын

    i both love and hate how this game has forced me to relearn all the random facts i completely forgot about from high school science class

  • @LemonsInTheShade
    @LemonsInTheShade2 жыл бұрын

    Just a minor point: it’s not “degrees kelvin” it’s just “kelvin” only Celsius and Fahrenheit come in degrees.

  • @epiccollision

    @epiccollision

    Жыл бұрын

    You mean at like the supermarket?

  • @SuperPikmin45

    @SuperPikmin45

    Жыл бұрын

    🤓

  • @Deboned_butter

    @Deboned_butter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SuperPikmin45 “🤓” - Someone who didn’t know what the comment said, and got their ego hurt.

  • @wallytomlins

    @wallytomlins

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Deboned_butter🤓

  • @Deboned_butter

    @Deboned_butter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wallytomlins Hey hey hey! This is a no bully zone >:(

  • @KyleD00
    @KyleD00 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I was having trouble understanding heat transfer and you explained it well and in a straight forward way at the right pace for me. The visual indicators are great. It was also relaxing!

  • @michaelsotomayor5001
    @michaelsotomayor5001 Жыл бұрын

    I did testing, similar scenarios but different elements. Tested liquid salt (0.7 SHC) vs liquid lead (0.12 SHC) Lead is 11 times more thermally conductive. I used obsidian tiles at 1800 kelvin to transfer heat to diamond tiles. Had both at different masses (the max amount for a liquid tile for each element) but at same temperatures. After 3 seconds the liquid salt removed most heat without transferring much heat but after 30 seconds it evened out with salt using less heat to transfer more. After 100 seconds both salt and lead where even 1500 kelvin but the obsidian tiles for salt was 1652 kelvin while for lead it was 1535 kelvin. That test was the best way for me to visualize SHC. Thanks to you for the curiosity!

  • @music_YT2023
    @music_YT20232 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful. I always see builds with certain materials, but was never sure WHY those specific materials were used. Ty!

  • @Bunnyowo69
    @Bunnyowo69 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, i actually feel very informed.

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad - that was the goal!

  • @eintheshooter6258
    @eintheshooter62582 жыл бұрын

    Thanks alot for all these videos, ive just gotten into oni and it can be confusing and complicated but watching your videos help make me feel more confident. Hope you make more high quality videos like these!

  • @george-by
    @george-by Жыл бұрын

    Wow. That is an excellent way to give an intuition behind the concepts.

  • @george-by

    @george-by

    Жыл бұрын

    I know saying a nice thing on the internet nowadays looks like sarcasm, but it's not 😅

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha that's fine - the ONI community is so nice that I wouldn't assume it was sarcastic. So many people have left very kind comments that I appreciate very much!

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles6 ай бұрын

    It's funny how close I was to getting it completely. I knew you used conductors and a thermal battery, but I didn't get why you wanted high heat capacity on the coolant. Duh. Great video

  • @surplusking2425
    @surplusking24258 ай бұрын

    Just like real world, Aluminum is king unless you heat them over melting point

  • @obieldenook1142
    @obieldenook11422 жыл бұрын

    You explain this very well. Thank you for the video. I mentioned it on another video, I believe, but would love to make a request on how the different materials work with tempshift plates, if you don't mind. Thank you.

  • @mikehanks
    @mikehanks2 жыл бұрын

    raw refined metals have different/ lower Thermal Conductivity than the pipes(liquid) copper and gold normal is 60k but the pipes are 120k for iron its 110k edit: looks like the refined metals base is x and the pipes are times 2 ex. thermium base is 220 but the pipes( liquid and gas both 440k)

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    2 жыл бұрын

    That certainly is an interesting nuance, and I wasn't aware that the radiant pipes had a 2x multiplier. Fortunately I don't think it changes the key take-aways though.

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom507410 ай бұрын

    5:49 True, but Igneous rock takes 5 times as much energy to raise its temperature than mafic rock, and its thermal conductivity is only twice as bad, which means that because of the ratio, it still comes out ahead

  • @mastervule1844
    @mastervule1844 Жыл бұрын

    Funny thing is that I had no idea what is difference between those and couldn't find well explained answer anywhere. Then Fungus comes to the rescue haha. Tnx dude

  • @Layarion
    @Layarion Жыл бұрын

    I'm confused...oh nvm I get it now. At 3:10 when you said "the more amount is removed for the same amount of power and time" and i was like "what? no what? why? no then wth is conductivity for!?!" and then i watched it again and realized you were talking about how the game is just deciding to piss on it's science aspect.

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's the thing you have to realize with ONI, which is that while it's a physics simulation it's definitely not a realistic one. Neither conservation of energy or mass are respected, and the one element per tile rule creates some odd behaviours. But once you accept those, then you can really then them to your advantage!

  • @lammaerb7867
    @lammaerb7867 Жыл бұрын

    When I try to cool my base with an aquatuner/steam turbine combo, does it matter if the radiant pipes of the base run in the air or run in the floor blocks?

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    Generally you'll get better transfer by running it through the tiles, but for base cooling either will be fine as usually there isn't that much heat generated. I did mention this in the cooling tutorial bite, but even using granite normal pipes can be sufficient without needing radiant pipes at all, but radiant pipes will very quickly bring the temperature down.

  • @lammaerb7867

    @lammaerb7867

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GCFungus Well... I need a bit more serious cooling power, there are some hot geysers in close proximity of my base (sadly I opened them too early), and even the insulated tiles surrounding them (double layer) are at 50-60 celsius hot. So radiant pipes in the insulated tiles would be the best option, right? (with the regular thermal aquatuner / steam turbine combo)

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lammaerb7867 Actually that would be a common mistake - you don't want to change the temperature of the insulated tiles (that is the opposite of their purpose). Cool or heat the areas either side of the insulation as you need. If you have double insulated it, then the heat transfer will be very very small, even if the temperature of the tiles themselves seem high. So in short, cool the base side of the insulation, not the insulation itself.

  • @lammaerb7867

    @lammaerb7867

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GCFungus Thank you for the clarification

  • @ethanblack5642
    @ethanblack56429 ай бұрын

    I comment to help statistics

  • @michaelrichards5340
    @michaelrichards53402 жыл бұрын

    Wow... I don't even pay attention and used sandstone on everything

  • @magatsu3642
    @magatsu36428 ай бұрын

    I cant find aluminium in my colony😢

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    8 ай бұрын

    If you're playing in the base game with a temperate biome start (e.g. terra) you won't have forest biomes or aluminium. In that case you would have to do a space mission with a solid cargo bay to a living planet to get aluminium ore. On forest start base game maps you will have it from the beginning, and in the spaced out DLC you may have it on your starting planetoid, otherwise you'll have to find it on another one.

  • @d3w0z
    @d3w0z Жыл бұрын

    what am i getting into

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    Well it's a great game but has quite a bit of complexity behind the scenes!

  • @d3w0z

    @d3w0z

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GCFungus i just play it recently and love it, thanks for the tutorial to guide me through :) your videos are very helpful

  • @Layarion
    @Layarion Жыл бұрын

    Hey your voiceover has a lot of plosives in it and is clipping as a result. if you're using a standalone mic then you need a pop filter, if you're using a headset mic then you need to change it's position.

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the feedback, and I did record this one and all my early videos on my old headset mic. Fairly soon after this, I did upgrade my microphone and got a pop filter for it, as well as played around with filters to make it sound a lot better (at least I think)! When I started making these I really had little idea on what I was doing, so have learnt along the way - and am still learning now!

  • @Layarion

    @Layarion

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GCFungus it's only a fucking shame that YT doesn't let you re-upload to the same link address. it woulda been painless to fix then by just downloading the video, deleting the audio, and re-uploading with a fresh voice over.

  • @GCFungus

    @GCFungus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LayarionWell my hope is to one day be able to 'remaster' these old ones, so improve the script, re-record the audio and the video with improved editing. For now though I'm definitely focusing on new content, and will come back to these if I feel I have time.

  • @beekey9501
    @beekey95012 ай бұрын

    This comment contains nine words consisting of at least three symbols.

  • @divergentlife493
    @divergentlife4937 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately this just doesn't explain anything at all. Like the basics of calculating TC and SHC effects on exchanging temp.

  • @seeess925
    @seeess9257 ай бұрын

    Thumbs down! This is the worst explanation. And all the water makes it more confusing for to expectation of dropping it in. There is nothing at all here that is properly explained. Especially with no mention of DTU. Or no numbers to actually give meaningful examples that users can understand. Everything here is beyond incoherent. Especially if you missed a glib mention of heat energy. Not being temperature. And no clear explanation of what that actually means functionally. Yet some definitions at the start that have no comparison to practical application. Basically heat energy is measured in DTU. SHC of a mat = amount of DTU needed to raise 1g of that mat by 1 Kelvin every second. Which can then be translated to Fahrenheit to make more sense. So for 1 gram of a mat with SHC of 2. The temperature will go up by 1 Kelvin every second for every 2 DTU emited by the tiles around it. So if there is one tile next to it that is 4 DTU. It will go up by 2 Kelvin every second. Now if the mat was 10 grams. It would take 10sec to go up 2 Kelvin. Therefore if you see the DTU of an object. Such as a lamp with 800 DTU. You can check the tile next to it. To see how long it will take to raise the temp of that tile by one Kelvin.

  • @SwampKryakwa

    @SwampKryakwa

    Ай бұрын

    🤓

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