Overtime: William Weld, John Waters, Kirsten Powers, Jonathan Swan, Lawrence Wilkerson
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Please make this like 20 minutes. Overtime is awesome
Trump was at the D-Day commemoration today, it was touching to see him lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Bone Spur.
John Waters is the best part of the show. He is fabulous.
I really admire and respect Lawrence Wilkerson. It is too bad he isn't on more cable news networks.
Damn is everyone going to ignore how bangin John's notched lapel beast monster is... WTF people?
@maxafriyie3288
5 жыл бұрын
It's awful, isn't it?
@jim1550
5 жыл бұрын
@@maxafriyie3288 Its
@jim1550
5 жыл бұрын
@@maxafriyie3288 and no that shit's color pops like peter north.
@McBitchification
5 жыл бұрын
@@jim1550 Hmm, nooo. It's 'it's'.
Gov. Weld, I need you as US Attorney General!!!!!
I like the idea of merit-based immigration. That is what other countries do, and we should to. That doesn't negate the fact that we still need to accept genuine refugees.
canada's immigration system is generally merit-based, but that doesn't apply the same way to refugees. for refugees it's a matter of legitimacy/safety. you can have both approaches so it's not just rich or educated that can come in.
@flangekiwi
5 жыл бұрын
We do similar in Aotearoa New Zealand. But then we're also able to distinguish between a refugee and an immigrant.
Looking forward to Andrew Yang and Katie Porter....finally some intelligent and straightforward information. I can't wait. Both are super prepared and funny too.
This John Waters guy is hilarious! I hope he's going to do more stuff on TV! He is a wonderful !
@quicksite
5 жыл бұрын
he's been a regular on Bill's show for years and years. Google him, he's got a storied career. Movies like Crybaby with Johnny Depp, Serial Mom with Kathleen Turner and Patty Hearst (my fav), and his earlier "trashy" films as Bill put it.
Bill never mentions Bernie anymore and when he does it's always something about his age. Bernie is the best candidate!
@nqobilengema2165
5 жыл бұрын
Cant you see you deluded democrat... Bernie will be screwed over again and cheated! And Bill Maher never calls out cheating of the dema but hey republicans cheat once tout it for years
@gretebremseth1622
5 жыл бұрын
Bernie 2020!!!!!!!!!♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
@Sandman_10372
5 жыл бұрын
Bernie is dead in the water. His promises of candy and sunshine are played out on normal critical thinking voters. He had his chance, got screwed, it's over.
@criticalthinker6736
5 жыл бұрын
I think Bill is just trying to lend screen time to other candidates who have new, viable ideas and solutions to contribute. There is only so much one can squeeze in 50 minutes per week. Also, I hope we can take the time to think critically and not automatically polarize ourselves over politics. The less of this "Us VS Them" mentality, the better for everyone.
REQUEST: PLEASE PERSUADE SEN. KLOBUCHAR and SEN. Kamala Harris to remain senators and teach ten more women or men to be brilliant prosecutors in the Senate. I think that if they cultivate more like themselves , society will benefit greatly . Walter
@ianbenjiman
5 жыл бұрын
Harris and Klobuchar?? They're not smart at all, plus they're toxic (Klobuchar is known to physically abuse her own staff) and hypocritical (Harris laughed about prosecuting weed users when she was smoking it herself).
Kirsten Powers looks like Catherine Deneuve. Nice!
@stellarmist_yt
5 жыл бұрын
John P Jones I noticed that too!
As a Canadian citizen, I truly feel for the American population. Daffy Duck is at the helm here as well. We do not need an affable leader. We need a keenly intelligent one. It is a serious business running a country and for that we need serious people to do so.
Waters is a National Treasure.
John Waters is a national treasure
Regarding the Virginia Beach shootings... Where are the "Right to Life" people on gun control. Didn't those thirteen, real, live people, deserve to live?
@MarkovianMan
5 жыл бұрын
They believe life only matters when it's in-utero. Once the umbilical is cut, you're f*cked and good luck to you.
@paulthomas1480
5 жыл бұрын
@@narichan that's right. A globbet of cells must be brought to term. After that, whatever.
@geraldheckathorn7371
5 жыл бұрын
But what sense does it make to punish law abiding gun owners
Great show this week.
And by that last part from a) to c) yes I meant Moses King and his reply. Too funny, ROFLOL!!!!!!
Wow! A real meeting of the mind!
I just like looking at Kirsten
It doesn't matter if Elizabeth doesn't have a sense of humor.
@kennethdower7425
5 жыл бұрын
What does matter is the fact that she *doesn't* have a rock-solid chance of beating Trump.
@MarySmith-xo8gc
5 жыл бұрын
@@kennethdower7425 That hasn't really been determined yet.
@kennethdower7425
5 жыл бұрын
@@MarySmith-xo8gc Lol, what the hell is *that* supposed to mean; you'll just wait until election night is over to figure that out? It has *already* been determined by the future voters, she is not capable of unequivocally vanquishing Trump. Period. You either don't understand the idiom "rock-solid" or you simply have your head in the clouds, just like most idiot liberals.
@MarySmith-xo8gc
5 жыл бұрын
@@kennethdower7425 No, it means I need to hear from all of the candidates before narrowing my field, including Elizabeth. So far she is one of the few who actually has real, thought out policies that and intelligent and planned. She may not be the media "darling", but she has substance. I would like to see more substance and less propaganda from the candidates.
@kennethdower7425
5 жыл бұрын
@@MarySmith-xo8gc Well, all of that doesn't matter, as I already noted; what *matters* is having a candidate that can *soundly defeat Trump.* Get it, now? You better pray that she's not the nominee. Trump has an excellent chance of beating her.
"We ought to have some congressmen with some balls"
Kirsten's cute😊
Kirsten Powers is stunning.
@ScootsMahgoots
5 жыл бұрын
RaisedByCats yes Catherine Denueve vibe
@mickeyrosa7226
5 жыл бұрын
@@ScootsMahgoots Love Catherine Denueve.
@vubot1
5 жыл бұрын
... and over 50.
@jacobsteele7138
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes she is. She even sometimes let's her practical side out and sounds conservatives. I dig her. She can make democratic points without being obnoxious like Racheal Maddow who is just MSNBC's answer to Hannity. Those two are just 100% propaganda.
@turdferguson3855
5 жыл бұрын
Ask her about Anthony Wiener.
This is ironically funny.
"we live in a merit based society" *lol* Do you?
@BigBadJerryRogers
5 жыл бұрын
If it's going to be merit based, go all the way and make it also trade based with other countries. We ship out the dumb fucks and import those who have merit. We'll lose a lot of Trump supporters, but it's what they would want, they did vote for him. #MAGA
@kevinarnold7065
5 жыл бұрын
Most people of high education don't necessarily migrate. Most of the great contributors to our society were, are children of desperate migrants looking for opportunities if not just to survive.
@timherald4516
5 жыл бұрын
Based on the merit of your financial net worth. Canada attracts many through the foriegn student exchange system. Many of the students choose to become citizens after completing University. Unfortunately it also exposes Canada to garbage like the Saudi "princes" . For every one of them there are ten regular people and one "Mina Zarabian"
@ianbenjiman
5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a nepotistic society.
@cavebeastdemon3631
5 жыл бұрын
HELL NO! We live in an ass kisser, nepotism society. The most valued skill in America is golf.
Kirsten is beautiful
@0MoTheG
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out, I would not have thought of that.
@goodman2050
5 жыл бұрын
@@0MoTheG Glad I erased your ignorance
@stellarmist_yt
5 жыл бұрын
goodman2050 yes! she looks like a Catherine Deneuve who would have aged gracefully
Immigrants don't all have to be elite. We need people who are willing to contribute to society, at _any_ level they are able. That doesn't mean only top-tier earners. The "merit-based" argument is just a way people argue against immigration without _sounding_ classist, because they know that, under a "merit-based" system, most people who will be excluded will be poor.
That guy with the clown collar, bless his nodding dog head trying to fit in! Such a cute character, bless😅
@charlie-obrien
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, funny, successful and a American Icon. John Waters is all of those things and he appears in public using his real name and image (fashion collar and all) which is more than we can say for ............ Mobius Who??? Gob bless your avatar.
On our way to crazy town
@subversivelysurreal3645
5 жыл бұрын
Susie Fairfield : On our way..?!
Can people stop cutting each other off? 🙄
@DaPoopIsInDaPudding
5 жыл бұрын
No
You need merit based but there needs to be a balance.
@VoodooV1
5 жыл бұрын
Just depends on how you define merit. In reality, merit = money = how rich your parents were. If you define merit by what kind of skills you have, then yes.
Lawrence Wilkerson has come out publicly and apologized for his role in allowing the invasion of Iraq to happen (unlike general Powell)... It’s just too bad he didn’t have the courage back in 2003 when it really mattered, to advise General Colin Powell to not back the war. That is some serious guilt to have to live with... The loss of all those lives for absolutely nothing.
@berniehobabykat
5 жыл бұрын
B A back to your mother’s basement you go👉
@charlie-obrien
5 жыл бұрын
Lots of soul searching in the republican party, since all of their past actions and trespasses led to Trump!
@KnowTrentTimoy
5 жыл бұрын
@ : Telling the TRUTH is "self-righteous outrage"....purity? No Wonder the Right and cuckservatives are DYING...."Let them die..."
@JasonWW.
5 жыл бұрын
As a Democrat I respect him
What ever happened to "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?
Let’s get the balls rolling people🤞😉👍
Orange needs to get squeezed out of Office!
@TY9941_
5 жыл бұрын
He will win in a landslide but yeah good joke
@Games_and_Music
5 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, American voters are idiots, too bad
@91czechgirl
5 жыл бұрын
@@TY9941_ You right. He may win . People just don't pay attention what is going on . It is so sad
@jacobsteele7138
5 жыл бұрын
With cleverness like yours how can he lose.
@TY9941_
5 жыл бұрын
@@91czechgirl mostly due to the PC crowd, snowflake millennials, and pussy left-wing men who cannot take a fucking joke. Trump voters, for the most part, can at least take a fucking joke
The Dems should have let EVERYONE be on the first debates. After that, they could have weeded them out.
Power should never go to the wrong person. God bless America
@Bluzian74
5 жыл бұрын
That's why Clinton didn't win, and how and why Trump will be re-elected in 2020.
All i could think about was the mustache
she obviously knows nothing about Canadian Immigration process.
She’s gorgeous in that thumbnail
@jeremybow604
5 жыл бұрын
Ramin Rahnema, agreed. Too bad they wouldn't let her talk.
Congressmen with balls. That's rich. Until you remove reelection as a motivator, no one in congress will do what's good for the country, only what's good for themselves. Term limits for congress.
Yea
Kirsten Powers is really a hot moma.
@turdferguson3855
5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Weiner thought so too.
I really love Wilkerson, even though he's a Republican. Dude has his principles and sticks with em. I remember seeing a clip of him on John Oliver's show saying Gitmo should be closed down, and the people who wanna keep it are cowards. Takes some guts to say that as a Republican.
Would anybody with merit really want to go to USA.
@gustofzephyr947
5 жыл бұрын
They would want to go to places like San Francisco and NYC.
Merit based is the way to go
Stop dissing Liz..she has some of the best plans I've heard..and she smiles, is articulate and a fighter for the people.
"We need unskilled labourers as much as skilled people! " Brilliant Well America's got too many lawyers I would hate to fix my own teeth
@dcodework2421
5 жыл бұрын
translation we need more peasants from third world who will do our shitty job for us while we feel good about our-self
2:05 hold that pose
Bill seemed to be rushing through the episode tonight.
@markgreen4612
5 жыл бұрын
HBO has to increase the time to at least 1 1/2 hours. The time with the main panel is far too short.
@redlightmax
5 жыл бұрын
@@markgreen4612 I'd be happy for them to cut out the first interview - go from the monologue straight to the panel.
@CosmicCleric
5 жыл бұрын
@@markgreen4612 Actually I was talking more about the subject talking and interactions with the guests. Seemed like multiple times a guest would say something and instead of Bill following up on it, would instead look down at good cards, and then just moved on to the next subject. Felt like he was just doing just enough on each subject/card, then moving on, no deep diving.
@markgreen4612
5 жыл бұрын
@@CosmicCleric - I understood what you were saying and I think a longer show would alleviate that problem. I suggested 1 1/2 hours but I'd really like to see it extended to 2 hours. Lawrence Wilkerson, for example, has lots to say that is very informative but the Late Night w Bill Maher format doesn't give him enough time to expound. He gets interviewed quite often on The Real News Network on KZread and the interviews are always great.
If he's not losing it "losing it", he's going to lose it lose it soon enough.
Weld2020!
Unbutton the jacket, Will! Jesus
@lawrencemicheal3591
5 жыл бұрын
RIGHT!? its like he has a stick up his ass. 🤨
Merit based is not "PhD and higher education". It's based on what this country needs at a specific point in time. If there is a lack of waiters/waitresses, then so be it, that would be the merit in question.
First time i heard Weld speak i wonder whats his goals and agenda for the WE THE PEOPLE. hes much normal speaker smart just like in the past, until Trump whack it.I used to be Republican gearing towards democrats but democrats like Pelosi seemed timid in actions. Except Warren Harris and Bernie. Weld sounds good with strength experience integrity. This is the normal republican Weld it is. Like to hear his issues
They should rename this show "explaining Twitter news to grandpa"
@Sandman_10372
5 жыл бұрын
Twitter's regressive left wing outrage culture is doing more to help Trump than anything he's done. Everytime some feminist lights up the virtue signal over Gotham for some perceived offense to gain faction points with the SJW crowd, more and more independent, middle of the road voters, like me, take one big step to the right.
They should name a trash barge after Trump. Or better yet just name one of the “heads” on the destroyer John McCain after him 🤔🤔🤔
@jacquesblaque7728
5 жыл бұрын
Any old roadside pissoir would do, but a smelly one in August would really insert the needle. Toilet-paper scraps a PLUS.
@dlcdlc100
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Urashevich I like it! I already call it "doing a #45" when I'm on the toilet so...
@nyx6937
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta go to the Don to take a Trump 😎
@Floridapirate1
5 жыл бұрын
@@dlcdlc100 I pinched off a nice trump and wiped my pence....
@Lord_Bibulous
5 жыл бұрын
Call it the USS Bankrupt. He's went bankrupt enough times to christen a battle group
John Waters & RuPaul 2020.
@McBitchification
5 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank all my fans & make sure they know I will never edit this post to say Trump/Murdoch 2020 to influence elections...😈
We need unskilled laborers MORE than those with "specialized" skills.
@Sandman_10372
5 жыл бұрын
Because today's average US citizen thinks that any job where you break a sweat or your fingernails get dirty is beneath them.
@lambdachi493
5 жыл бұрын
You can't believe in automation and want millions of additional low skilled workers. FACT
@jensymank4935
5 жыл бұрын
Andrea, find me all White drywall crew?
@lambdachi493
5 жыл бұрын
@@jensymank4935 An all white drywalling crew you can pay less than minimum wage with cash under the table? No
Donnie not only looks like a white James Brown impersonator, he looks like a white James Brown impersonator from Times Square who doesn't sing, or dance... but photobombs tourist selfies, then demands 15$.
Merit based immigration is the way to go.
@accplr12
5 жыл бұрын
Nope, there are too many managers already.
@wvusmc
5 жыл бұрын
@@accplr12 there are too many people incapable of becoming managers. Settling for mediocrity is a terrible strategy in life.
I thought the guy on the right was David Lynch
Our education system (or lack there of) has created enough manual labor class (unskilled workers) for this country, the problems are the wages for such jobs are insufficient to sustain even the modest of lifestyles and the other problem is Americans think they are too good to be bothered to do such jobs (cleaning toilets or picking crop).
Kirsten is right, "merit based" should be interpreted as "white based". My grandparents came here and did the grunt work. It's the ladder that is the American Dream. We can't lose it.
How does Bill not know about the new standards for the 3rd Democratic debate?
@nobodynowhere21
5 жыл бұрын
Following political news these days is like putting a firehose to your mouth. I'm not disappointed or even surprised Bill didn't hear about that given everything going on and that the 3rd debates aren't even until mid-September.
I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we had a president who wasn't funny #wtf
Kirsten is so correct. "....Give me your tired, your poor. your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of you teaming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my Lamp beside the Golden Door."
as someone who swore to defend the constitution in 77 , and still thinks it's important . I pray to GOD that every American will read George Washingtons farewell address , its a few pages . around the middle of it he talks about parties and foreign influence . every one should consider what one of our first real patriots advised on these things . it's as relevant as if he wrote it today .
I wonder when Bill will invite a real progressive on. Bernie, Tulsi, ....I wonder if he will.
@jacobsteele7138
5 жыл бұрын
He isn't a socialist. He is a very smart person. He is not as liberal as he carries on according to people that know him. He is pandering to a certain demographic. He gas called out liberals as pussies compared to conservatives that are willing to go on his show. That being said he should expose his audience even to the very far left social democrats. 20% or so of the country supports them and they should be able to share their views and be challenged on them as well. I hope this is taken in the context I meant and not a political attack.
@jacobsteele7138
5 жыл бұрын
@monokhem He isn't a con man. He says what he believes. Unfortunately like many democrats what they know just happens to be incorrect.
@davidhutchinson5233
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsteele7138 Hey Mr. Hilton. Check out the social contract in Europe. SMH.
Bill "We can all agree on balls." Maher
@hello2jello4mellow34
5 жыл бұрын
Varys would disagree ...
@LlyleHunter
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone likes them!
U.S. Constitution - Article 2 (The Executive Branch) Section 4 (Disqualification): "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Translation: YOU CAN CHARGE A SITTING PRESIDENT WITH A CRIME (AS STATED ABOVE) AND REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE!!!
@radbug
5 жыл бұрын
the above law means the "conviction" that congress can seek after president impeachment by congress. Not the "conviction" of a court judgement. Its really unfortunate that the two processes have the same name, though they are vastly different.
@edwardterry9468
5 жыл бұрын
Well, then it's a good thing Trump hasn't committed any crimes. 😜
@edwardterry9468
5 жыл бұрын
@john smith That makes no sense. 😜
Wait, so when I write in Vince McMahon, that's bullshit?
That’s not a reason to go to hell. Lol. First time I heard that and I’m borrowing it.
I wrote in Howard Stern.
I came here because of the thumbnail
My girlfriend's parents came here with no college degrees. Her dad quit engineering school in Iran to come to the US. He worked shit jobs in fast food restaurants until he could buy a franchise of one. After he sold that he made his own restaurant. With that restaurant he put his daughter through med school and his son through college (now works as a producer at a local news station) and bought them both houses. He didn't have a day off for 18 years. He was at his restaurant everyday working. He was an unskilled laborer that didn't speak English that, in 1 generation, had a successful small business, raised 2 highly productive members of society, not to mention his wife is a teacher. she came over too. I don't think I need to say more about her. she's a fucking teacher. I know this is isolated to a 1 of 1 but there are stories like this with people coming over here looking for something better than what they had in the place they were born.
Sure, we need merit based immigration. Bring all the undergraduate, and graduate or professional degrees from abroad, so the students graduating in the United States wages are depressed because the foreigners with degree depress wages.
@ladraper7134
5 жыл бұрын
Not just those with degrees come here and suppress wages.
TULSI 2020 !!
@JasonWW.
5 жыл бұрын
ugh
Let’s sit around and agree with each other! 😄
Having a VP is already worthless enough w/out the prohibition of being unable to indict a sitting president
At least T-RUMP is finally impersonating a RL human.
Why arent the news cycles giving Bill Weld free coverage and multiple platforms to let the Republicans know they have a choice too.
I heard Elizabeth Warren Talk on John Stewart's Daily Show twice or three times and so I wonder, "Do you listen to her? I learnt so much from her, she is so good at explaining why our economy has gone wrong or how to better it. She and Michel Lewis are the two who taught me nearly all I know on economy, at least the economy of the last forty years. She taught me about the, boom bang economy of before the 28 crash as well as more recent bits of economy. You should listen to her. You would get lots of ideas from her. I like Bermie Sanders a lot, I also like Elizabeth Warren a lot and I am a person who usually finds candidates to elections pretty uninteresting. I also think that Biden would be fine but the other two would be brilliante. He is a sort of reliable guy, and kind, not too, too anything, to do anything dramatically wrong.
Hi. Canadian here. Merit based immigration has priced out most Canadians from our own major housing markets. Maybe that ship has sailed in most of the US already, but it is not a good option.
@jerometurner9642
5 жыл бұрын
Almost all of my professional job having friends have had to move to get a house in a small market. It drives out the heart and keeps those willing to sell themselves for $. I miss my friends.
White James Brown impersonater! 😂😂😂
Trump looks like a white James Brown impresonator- Okay!
#GoogleYang 😂
ANYBODY but TRUMP DAMN 😂😂😂
Grow a pair congress
Bill please let your guests finish their sentences please please I beg of you
It was a very bad day for the cause of protecting America’s wilderness and resources some years back when the Sierra Club secretly took $100 MILLION in tainted donations from Wall Street investor David Gelbaum. The enormous contribution came with STRINGS ATTACHED, namely the stipulation that America’s flagship green organization would not mention EXCESSIVE IMMIGRATION as harmful to the environment generally and resource preservation in particular. As a result, the Club management rejected its own previous environmentally proper immigration policy of population stabilization with no explanation. The real cause was a closely guarded secret for years!!
Balls indeed! Stumpy will be done his presiduncey before the proceedings can come together. Just say no to stump in 2020!
@Bluzian74
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, but, DJT will win 2020. That I do know.
A James Brown joke, home decor stereotyping, and implying U.S. allies are not responsible. So the guy with the purple polka dot lapel is going to class shame? Bill, Bill, Bill
"Merit based" = taking jobs or keeping the wages down for Americans who have gone to school to improve themselves.
@ytubeanon
5 жыл бұрын
+TheBusyMind "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" -South Park... the fact is there are more professional high level job openings than all Americans would qualify to fill and that are still empty even with immigration
What the fuck is that thing sitting next to bill??? That's terrifying bruh
Hmmmm... What's in SA? Oh, I don't know. A golf course/country club owned by (or at least named after) #45? He's probably got other business interests there too.
Weld is gone.
Ask Kirsten a question and then mansplain over her as she tries to answer. Good job guys. When she finally spoke, it was the one thing that made sense. A waste of 30 seconds with an annoying British accent... Then continue to talk over her and discount her view on merit based immigration. Seriously.
@nanman7546
5 жыл бұрын
no kidding that fuckturd swan jumped in right at the start.
@alanstuart4646
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, they were rude and spoke over her. However, the annoying guy has a very thick Australian accent.
@jeremybow604
5 жыл бұрын
Alan Stuart, upon a closer listen I hear the Australian accent. He's no less annoying.