I wonder if, in cleaning the LCD, you inadvertantly removed the front polarizer. That would give you nothing but a white screen (That is, the backlight shining through and not being blocked)

@kreuner11

Жыл бұрын

The polarizer is a physical (not chemical) layer, no?

@AlexBuB

Жыл бұрын

A test with polarized Sunglasses should also possible 😅

@friedtomatoes4946

Жыл бұрын

@@kreuner11 Yes that is true but it can be damaged by chemicals

@pseudotasuki

Жыл бұрын

Yeah… Windex is notorious for stripping coatings off of displays. I've seen some really messed up CRTs that had their anti-glare coatings eaten by the stuff.

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

The valuable lesson: _never clean._

Seriously amused that you censored the paste application. That was great!

@joshtucker5135

Жыл бұрын

I seriously laughed way harder than I should have at that 🤣

@AnonymousFreakYT

Жыл бұрын

Should have blurred the hand, not the paste. 😛

@kfox_gaming09

Жыл бұрын

Why

@IdealIdeas100

Жыл бұрын

@@kfox_gaming09 so nobody can whine that he put too much or too little on Which is dumb because id just get some kind of sick pleasure knowing the amount I put on bothers someone

@Fre1maurer

Жыл бұрын

@@kfox_gaming09 Because you would read here now 900 postings just about the EXACT amount of paste you HAVE TO apply or you should burn in hell forever...

That's an Intel Advanced/ML (Marl) motherboard which only provides a single CPU voltage rail. You are overvolting the Pentium MMX as it is a split voltage CPU! Classic Pentiums use 3.3v whereas the MMX is 2.8V! Only a Pentium MMX Overdrive is supported as it has onboard voltage regulation.

@davidew98

Жыл бұрын

i hope he sees this!!!!

@NTGTechnology

Жыл бұрын

I was worried about that too when he never mentioned adjusting voltage. It'll probably work for a little while since old CPUs are pretty voltage tolerant, but it's certainly not good for it. The Pentium MMX needs the core voltage at 2.8V (2.9V is probably safe for overclocking) and 3.3V for the I/O voltage.

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

@@NTGTechnology I'm sure it will be fine with the 20% voltage increase. The main downside will be heat and thermal paste + heatsink will take care of that. The old Pentiums were usually used without any thermal paste. If it were a 2.0v CPU I'd be much more worried.

Just a small note, most processors if not all in the socket 7 lineup were multiplier locked and could not increase the multiplier, but you could always use a lower one. The method for overclocking the p233mmx is set the fsb to 75MHz with the stock 3.5x multiplier or if the board supports it 83MHz with a 3.0 multiplier, netting you approximately a 263MHz/250MHz Pentium experience.

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

I thought most were unlocked. My Pentium 166 and K6-2 450 are definitely unlocked. And the standard FSB speeds are 50, 60, and 66 MHz. 75MHz FSB is definitely not on all boards. Btw with older CPUs a locked multiplier can't be lowered. My PIII-700 is always 7x, to underclock you need to lower the bus speed. I'm guessing Sean has a 200MHz CPU and he unknowingly overclocked it (the 1.5x jumpers are remapped to 3.5x on the MMX).

@achaycock

Жыл бұрын

Hi @Benjamin Hale, the multiplier lock was not introduced until the Pentium II line-up. All socket 7 CPU's have a completely unlocked multiplier, as had been the norm up to that point. When the locked multiplier was introduced with the Pentium II, the claim (I think largely true) was that it was to combat fake CPU vendors that would re-mask a CPU and sell it on as a higher clocked version than it was rated for. I do think Intel liked putting a stop on casual overclocking as well. I know this for two reasons. I have access to all of these processors first hand. I also have the timing of this burned into my memory. One factor in my choice to buy an AMD K6 for my first computer build instead of a Celeron was the multiplier lock.

You could remove most of the heavy steel chassis for a fraction of weight... save just the front panel and LCD... 3D print a few fittings.

@Valrax

Жыл бұрын

for a fraction of the density and integrity... it's 40% steel

@KomradeMikhail

Жыл бұрын

@@Valrax It's all good, baby... I'm 60% Dolemite.

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but then he could just buy a laptop, or a phone. It's supposed to be a ridiculous tank of a thing, it's the only thing interesting about this otherwise obsolete machine.

I think you may have fried something when the CF to IDE adapter shorted. I remember noting that when you removed the IDE Cable, you moved it FROM the socket that's dead, and plugged the DOM into the one that works. If that's true, you would have never registered "shorted adapter = dead IDE" because it worked after you installed the DOM.

@shawnstillman736

Жыл бұрын

I saw this as well. That's defiantly when the secondary ide channel died. I may or may not have done this before...

Yeah i think you accidentally removed the polarizer cleaning the LCD

@colinstu

Жыл бұрын

or it's rotated or something

“It shouldn’t be too hard”… famous last words. 😂

Initially when early IDE/ATAPI CDROMs came to market the motherboards bios would not detect ATAPI/IDE CDROMs as they were not designed to work with that type of devices and would also not be able to boot from them, BUT once you load the CDROMS driver on DOS or another OS it would work.

everything seems perfectly normal here!

standalone release of "questioning my life choices" when?!?

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

😂

@VinkDaniel

Жыл бұрын

This will become a meme on this channel. I promise you.

8:26 I love how you blurred out the thermal compound application so arm chair PC builders can't leave their expert opinion how much compound you used in the comments. BTW, you used too much. 🤣

Hello, due to a glitch in the video at 8:30 I was unfortunately unable to confirm whether you were using _too little_ or _too much_ thermal compound. Can you please clarify on this matter as I really wanna make sure the hateful & attacking message I'm gonna leave to point out how you dared to not use the _exact_ same amount of compound _I_ would have used is worded accordingly. Thank you for your cooperation in advance.

@G6PBS

Жыл бұрын

LOL

I love this coffee table destroying box of industry!

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure the Centurion could do way more damage to a coffee table!

@UsagiElectric

Жыл бұрын

@@ActionRetro Measuring a computer's epicness by how much damage it can do to a coffee table is a metric I can get behind!

Today on Action Retro... "Hey Smokers Sean here"

By the way, the clock/multiplier settings are clearly etched into the motherboard, near to the jumper section. I mean...

thanks for taking us along on your journey with this! excited to see the next installment

And, for reference, the WHITE image IS NOT the motherboard, it will be the graphics adapter OR the LCD controller itself. Though from what I see I would advise you to check the cables between the LCD controller itself and the LCD panel as I have seen this before and it was due to a bad connection between the LCD controller and its flat panel. So check the board the VGA cable connects to and then check it's connections to the panel.

@RWBHere

3 ай бұрын

That flexible connector cable is renowned for being fragile. Move an old one a couple of times and it will need replacing. Also, he might have erased the polarising filter whilst 'cleaning' it with a chemical cleaner. A replacement doesn't cost much, but he likely didn't know about this.

I loved the I'm freeee! popup :D. great stuff!

DRUAGA1..... nobody will ever again capture the raw essence he put out in video form. when you said his name i screamed out loud. i miss him so bad. thank you for the great content my king lots of love

@funnypranker34

Жыл бұрын

And I’m about to watch him again after this

I dont know what it is but whenever I see an old motherboard, I get all excited 😁

Board repair is tricky and difficult. I'd recommend getting a thermal camera and looking at things that get hot. Also replace the caps

I like that you've been doing more pc stuff. Just mac is fairly limiting.

To quote the Wordsmith grandmaster 🎵"Its all about the Pentiums baby... "🎵

@soknightsam

Жыл бұрын

Weird Al is my jam!

@JohnSmith-xq1pz

Жыл бұрын

@@soknightsam 🤘

@startedtech

Жыл бұрын

You think your Commodore 64 is really neato, what kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?

@JohnSmith-xq1pz

Жыл бұрын

@@startedtech skips To the best line... "If I ever meet you I'll ctrl alt Delete you"

here are a few things i would like to say 1. did you say it is a 200mhz processor?? -if so in that era Intel was strict on blocking over-clocks 2. if you flip the chip over you should be able to read the model -SL27J/2.8v is 200mhz --C:1-2/5-6 D:1-2/5-6 1-2 would be bottom left and 5-6 would be top right (by the way you showed us in the video) -SL27S/2.8V is 233mhz --should not even be possible with the info for this board 3. by the looks of the screen you showed with the frequencies and multiplier settings this mother board cant run at 233 -doing so might cause issues 4. by the looks of things you have a P55C version of the processor you might need a P54CS -because of the voltage mother boards/processors during this time where finicky as hell, if you did something they do not like it might boot but then fail randomly

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

The jumpers for 3.5x are the same as for 1.5x. Which multiplier you get depends on the CPU: non-MMX interpret it as 1.5 and MMX interpret it as 3.5. Most of the Socket 7 chips are unlocked. IIRC the most notable exception is newer 133MHz Pentiums.

"I'm freeeeeee" made me laugh so much 😅

This is the greatest overclocking video I have ever seen. I laughed so hard when you showed the cards hanging off of their cables attached to the motherboard, I paused it to show the wife and even she started laughing at how janky the setup was. Keep them coming.

Great video. Thanks for sharing 😁

"And if you enjoy using expensive, application specific computers... Wrong!" Great Joke, great delivery! Hahaha

That board appears to be using SMD caps....Aren't SMD caps of that age known for leaking? Might want to think about replacing them. Might revive the dead IDE port and the display. ;) Oh and if you used windex you might have damaged the polorizer on that LCD panel. :( It probably doesn't have a protective cover like normal LCDs that are exposed to the environment since it's been behind that front membrane keyboard cover thing it's whole life. You can try finding some polorizer film/sun glasses and looking at it through them. If you see the display working through them then yeah you damaged the polorizer. :(

@motorb1tch

Жыл бұрын

no, cap plague was much later in the early 2000´s

@MagnumForce51

Жыл бұрын

@@motorb1tch No that's a seperate issue. This appears to be a mid to late 90's machine. You know what else from that era needs new caps today? Vintage Macintosh Machines. I also have a few VHS camcorders from that era that use SMD caps that have started to leak. It's not related to the plegue of the 00's. The SMD caps from the 90s like this mobo uses are simply prone to leaking due to their age. It's mainly the through hole style caps that lasted longer hence why some really old stuff like the Macintosh SE which doesn't use SMD caps but cylindrical through hole ones don't need new caps. (though their analog board/power supply capacitors are starting to fail but this is due to heat exposure which shortens capacitor lifespan and the analog board and power supply is pretty much where all the heat comes from in that machine) So that's why I suggested replacing the SMD caps. It's not related to the 00s capacitor plegue but the aging SMDs from the 90's plague. :P

@motorb1tch

Жыл бұрын

@@MagnumForce51 true, these caps dont last forever even if they do not leave the factory defective. still, i would never suggest to fix something that is not broken. it is an industrial board and certainly build to very different specs then consumer products. while you are right in that caps of that age are always suspicious, id rather suggest to measure them with a mulitmeter then just pulling out the soldering iron.

@MagnumForce51

Жыл бұрын

@@motorb1tch Well the board is broken somewhat. One IDE port stopped working and there's no video output to the LCD panel. (though that could be an issue with the panel itself after he attempted to clean it)

@pentiummmx2294

Жыл бұрын

might as well put a Microid Research BIOS on it

Come on, the ultimate in inconvenience is to build a wall and mount this into it. Then, put casters on the wall to make it portable.

@youmukonpaku3168

Жыл бұрын

put it on a split trail carriage like one of those old-timey field guns, instead of casters.

Doesn't Windex destroy LCD displays?

@Otep35Otep

Жыл бұрын

Yep don't do that

@Stealth86651

Жыл бұрын

It's not recommended because it can destroy the layers (like the polarizing layer on LCD's). Rarely it'll eat all the way through, but enough to ruin the screen. Surprised he used Windex, it used to be pretty commonly known that's a no-go.

@colinstu

Жыл бұрын

@@Stealth86651 destroying the polarizer… ding ding ding.

@kasuraga

Жыл бұрын

specifically ammonia based windex.

You absolutely need a fan on the CPU now. Maybe not on the P100 but the 233 will need it unless you want it to die an early death. Regarding the second IDE channel, have you tried IDE40 cables, instead of the IDE80s? Some earlier chipsets just do not jive with the IDE80 cables at all. Finally, do double check that it's set to IDE auto in the BIOS. It's totally possible to overlook it.

@TheDemocrab

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily with that huge (for the time) heatsink. I've got a Pentium MMX 166 from a family members PC that was relabelled as 200Mhz and ran at 200Mhz for over a decade with a heatsink that was *much* smaller albeit with a tiny little fan on it, so if that much larger heatsink has even a little bit of natural airflow going over it from the PSU fans or the like drawing air from inside the case then it should be alright. If not I'd just get a 80mm noctua and run it at a low voltage for noise purposes, with that large heatsink it won't need very much airflow at all if it needs any extra airflow.

That CPU likely has a locked CPU multiplier, as such you would need to instead increase the FSB speed, though to do that you must ensure that everything that depends on the FSB supports the higher speeds, things such as PCI bus clock, RAM clock and ISA clock are usually derived from the FSB and as such you must ensure they all work at the faster speeds.

i looove it keep posting videos ab this thing please

The symptoms look like, that the Graphics Board is not connected to the Display. May the cable is on the Graphics Card loosy or on the LCD self. The Display don't get Power for the Logic. Only the Backlid is powered, this should be a seperate Powerline to the Inverter for the CCFL.

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking the same - the cables are connected, so I'm wondering if a solder joint on the video card's internal connector cracked

@AlexBuB

Жыл бұрын

@@ActionRetro Ok, lookup for the datasheet of the LCD-Panel to get the pinout of the Data-Terminal/Connector and then trace it to the PCI-Card. May a little fuse is there blown or this Slot is different from Power Levels? In the First Video was the Graphics Card in the 2nd Slot near by the RAMs. Good Luck

God that is so cool. Well done mlord.

Loved the druaga1 reference

Depending on the vcore you could do 400MHz with a K6-2 jumpered to run at 66 * 2MHz

You have chulthu the hell out of that system and love it!

Basic math shows that the manual's jumper settings table @8:59 are incorrect (and inconsistent with what's printed on the board right next to the IDE connector). The clock multiplier column should read "2" for 133 MHz row (not 2.5), and "1.5" for the 100 MHz row, since 66.67 × 2 = 133, and 66.67 × 1.5 = 100. This can be confirmed by looking at the adjacent rows; the "jumper D" settings are respectively identical to the lines for 120 MHz (where "2-3, 4-5" is a multiplier of 2), and 90 & 75 (where "1-2, 4-5" is a multiplier of 1.5. Looking closely at the video and zooming in on the jumpers, the CPU frequencies seen are consistent with what they are supposed to be, specifically: - @7:22 the jumpers were in the original "100 MHz" positions for 66 MHz bus & 1.5 multiplier; 1.5 serves double-duty as a 3.5 multiplier on MMX CPUs, and 66.67 × 3.5 = 233 - @9:16 the jumpers are in the "highest possible" position (as mentioned @9:06)...66 MHz × 3 multiplier, correctly resulting in 200 MHz - @9:42 the jumpers appear to be in the 166 MHz setting (66 × 2.5); not sure why the 200 MMX would freeze at this speed - @9:48 the 125 MHz result is consistent with the jumper setting, which is "2-3, 5-6" for C (50 Mhz bus), and "2-3, 5-6" for D (2.5 multiplier)...50 × 2.5 = 125 - @9:56 the jumpers are in the 50 MHz × 3 positions (C = "2-3, 5-6", & D = "1-2, 5-6"), so 150 MHz is correct

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed the errors in the manual.

My guess is the polarizer for the display. If so, shouldn’t be too hard to put some film on it.

If you partition the disk using a newer version of fdisk, you can partition it up to 4GB. We did it all the time back in the very late 90s.

I worked at a place that had one of these exact units, operating a 2000 degree sintering furnace.

OMG a P1 200MMX totally was my first "real" computer (well the first one that I could go on the internet and do what I want/what I could with it ! :)

ahahah the druaga1 vibes are on point , miss old druaga1 :')

You know that 750W power supply might be enough to power the computuer AND the robot that machine might have originally controlled right? I mean not most of them, but one of them was probably a light engraver and not a 2 ton CNC lathe

@D0Samp

Жыл бұрын

When in doubt, you should go overboard on wattage with modern PSUs on old computers since they're mostly designed with 12V load in mind. This particular 750W PSU like many only does 120W max combined on the 3.3V and 5V rails.

@thumbwarriordx

Жыл бұрын

@@D0Samp I dare him to build and run an engraver or laser cutter off this PC with the extra 12v capacity as its designers intended.

Show me your thermal paste you fiend! I think you put too much but not enough on. Also you have to make a counter clockwise swirl of it with a little loop on the top. Then you tap on the heat sink three times with your shoe laces tied with square knots.

@Stealth86651

Жыл бұрын

Probably exactly why he blurred it. Comedy works, but realistically I can imagine many creators get hoards of messages telling them "you're doing it wrong" and just want to avoid all that.

I had a breakthrough with my modern PC the other day... Such an esoteric problem I had! I'd tried to change the gpu to an AMD one on my b550 Aorus master. Apparently when you change the hardware in any major way the motherboard wants to show some kind of message which isn't displayed on most normal display port monitors! So I found a post where someone had the same problem with an Aorus master x570 board and found that I had to just boot it once with just my hdmi tv plugged in... then saved my bios settings and rebooted (which would usually result in a hang with 00 code)... But it rebooted just fine with the hdmi tv plugged in and now can restart from bios every time even with my display port monitor installed! This is the trickiest PC problem I've ever had to overcome!

Oh man, I hope you're able to get the monitor fixed on our super chonky boy! D:

I have same motherboard and the second IDE is not gonna work properly until you install a driver for it. It is at theretroweb if you search for Intel Advanced/ML (Marl) board and downloads (Damn youtube won't let me post links) Also, how much ram do you have installed? Windows throws registry errors at me when i use more than 64MB of ram although they all work and board is rated for 128MB. So I use 48MB so far. I hope flashing newer BIOS will fix it...

@davidew98

Жыл бұрын

no it doesnt need a driver! he had it working without a driver but now the bios doesnt see the drive. this is a board issue

@jirja3192

Жыл бұрын

@@davidew98 Ok, I see... Yeah I got too ahead of myself. Well, it might be broken solder joint on the southbridge, some 3Dfx Voodoos that use same SMD style chips often have those contacts loose so resoldering them might help... Otherwise I needed that driver because than windows wasn't able to see any of the optical drives on second IDE channel despite trying several versions of windows. Weirdly, BIOS saw them all fine... Yeah Intel made boards were always more problematic.

@davidew98

Жыл бұрын

@@jirja3192 if these older boards are set for ide compatibility and make sure Raid if there is turned off windows should see it

@jirja3192

Жыл бұрын

@@davidew98 I'm saying, driver helped me. When i had it connected to second channel, windows would list it as unkonown device unless I installed the driver...

Maybe take a peak at VRM modules or adapters. With some help of those, you could install an AMD K6III+ with around 400mhz.

I kinda wanna see a moonshot build in a blue white g3 tower like the MDD G4

@3:10 channeling your inner Draguga1 I see After you just said it moments later lol

@steingat

Жыл бұрын

I think we all have built a Draguga1 build before!

@Gadgetman1989

Жыл бұрын

@@steingat indeed, nothing wrong with it, was just an observation I noticed lol

Did you get another CF-IDE adapter or did you fix the one you had?

The funny thing is, is that a huge supermarket in my region still uses computers running Windows 98, and 95 (and one has Windows 3.1 lmao)!

🔥 content

you should cut a hole in the wall and stick it in so its just like a panel on the wall.

Loved how the pc just became so much quieter with the new PSU lmao

could try doing a K5 or what ever processor upgrade?

Woohoo compusa!

I miss druga1

I'm guessing you have a loose vga cable on the way to the screen that makes it white :)

The most surprising thing to me is that this motherboard is ATX, not AT.

lol the bluescreen 🤣😂

My 233 MMX accepted to run at 290 MHz, so with a good mainboard and some luck we can get interesting results.

so how long before you run Adelie on it and try to get Plasma working? :)

Is it the polarizer on the display?

Is suggest installing ither a 3DFx Card or an Early model Riva TNT, TNT, or Geforce a Matrox G400 (Have one in my "Retrobox 2.0", Pentium Talautin 1.2GHz @ 1.5GHz, 1GB RAM, 16GB IDE SSD and a G400 for 2D - witch is a very good DOS, 2D card and even a decent 3D accelerator, paired With a pair of SLIed Voodoo2 12MBs for 3D duties). All good for DOS and Windows games, especially acclerated ones. Just an idea.

I didn't know it was possible to put way too much thermal paste, while simultaneously not putting nearly enough thermal paste! LOL

@punker4Real

Жыл бұрын

AS5 is conductive it's shorted the cpu on the bare pins

hope that might solved it, glad it was a cursed computer with a lot of touch.

You need to make a t-shirt that says "ACTION RETRO: We're not reasonable people..." :-)

the 233mhz speed is not too unexpected since the stock cpu was 100mhz and have come across several socket 7 boards that make 1.5x66=233mhz when using a later mmx pentium

@AnonymousFreakYT

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this. The processor was made at a time that Intel knew that *MANY* motherboards had maximum multipliers of 3.0x, which at a 66 MHz bus speed is…. (As Action Retro demonstrated) 200 MHz. So they made it so that if the CPU was being told to do a 1.5x multiplier or less, it would just automatically do 3.5x instead. I'd be curious if the "RESERVED" bus speed jumper setting of J7K1-C: 1-2 4-5 might produce a 75 MHz frequency or something. Unfortunately, the multiplier jumpers already are using all possible combinations to produce 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. So if J7K1-C 1-2 4-5 is 75 MHz, using the 3.0 would be _slower than stock_ at 225 MHz (but faster bus, which may be some benefit.) and if the CPU still does the "1.5x -> 3.5x" internally, 75 MHz would be 263 MHz - which *MIGHT* be possible for that CPU with proper cooling.

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

@@AnonymousFreakYT Yeah but "RESERVED" might connect up bits of the clock circuit wrong and end up blowing something, jumpers physically alter circuits after all, they aren't just data. You're quite right about CPUs re-using old multiplier settings as faster ones though.

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

@@greenaum Jumpers _sometimes_ alter physical aspects of the circuit. However in this care they _are_ just data bits going into the clock generator IC.

@greenaum

Жыл бұрын

@@eDoc2020 Sure but if, for example, you set a bit by connecting to gnd, vcc, or leave floating, you might end up connecting gnd to vcc with an illegal jumper setting, buggering the whole thing. It's also not impossible that other components are connected to the IC, different crystals or passives to work with the PLL. If you know better in a specific case, feel free, but as a general principle it's good not to mess with stuff like that. If it was meant to do other clock speeds, they'd likely be there legitimately. Besides that, the multiplier jumpers go straight to the CPU, which multiplies the clock internally. They are data bits, yes (though of a particular voltage other components might not share), and as I said, Intel / AMD repurposed them for higher multipliers as lower ones became obsolete. Confusing at best, also another good reason to stick with the manual!

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

@@greenaum Obviously it's safest to stick with documented settings but generally the designers aren't evil.

The member credits: 😱

It is possible use other motherboard? I think is better use a modern board like s370/slot 1 or up to s478,

@another3997

Жыл бұрын

If he did that, he might as well just tear out everything and stick a new Ryzen board in there and mount a modern LCD in it too. Either way, it would be a different machine.

Suggestion; go get some emulators.. specifically: Jnes or nester for NES SNES9X v1.39 for SNES BGB for Gameboy/GBC/SGB

i have that exact motherboard but it has a Microid Research BIOS flashed to it

Try something like Unix, or Slackware on it!

You never NEVER start maxed out...

@another3997

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not on an expensive, shiny new computer, or an exotic, ultra rare motherboard... but 'old' industrial boards are cheap and plentiful. It's his to use and abuse as he sees fit.

I know it works, but it does make me sad to see a board with ISA slots, only to have a modern ATX PSU that doesn't support -5v

I just enjoyed watching as your hands got dirtier and dirtier as the video went on.

You know you've worked on a computer when your hands are BLACK

Cool👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

That motherboard won't recognize a cdrom drive natively. Must boot from a floppy that has the appropriate drivers on it first.

Bro the fan is down on the PSU it will fry itself

Why did you censor yourself applying thermal paste?

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

running joke :)

Can you please do a tam video again

amd k6 3+ please twice the pentium you have there :P my childhood dream also try making fat 32 partitions on the drive on onther computer, you may get the bios see 2gb but it will still boot from bigger partition and windows wuill see the whole size, my k6 166 booted from 40gb hdd devided in half with the bios capable of seeing max 8gb 2gb was the limit for windows 95/fat windows 98 should be able to see drives bigger that 32gb

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

You don't need a separate computer to create the extra partition. If you launch FDISK from a DOS Prompt _inside_ of a fully booted Win9x you can create the partition on the same system.

@kokodin5895

Жыл бұрын

@@eDoc2020 oh really? i either never tryed it because of lack of spare hard drives back then or i had lausy luck with it (might be either i was 16, 20 years ago) either way my old mobo accepted disks up to 8gb in lba size seen in bios, seagate baracuda has 40gb and my boot partition had 20gb, and we were all crazy with my younger brother and walked to the nerdiest friend we had to a vilage close by to get the partitions set up on a new drive

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

@@kokodin5895 I don't know where I came up with the idea but I was somewhat surprised it worked. I found it fascinating that in DOS mode a drive letter wouldn't exist but in Windows it would.

The keyboard sucks, the screen is invisible, and its not really geared for anything fun or special I love this stupid machine

No... no Sean. We totally asked for this.

fairly certain the intel MMX series were multiplier locked and were only overclockable with faster FSB. you could try to find a K6 chip as the board appears to have a voltage regulator on it. some of the higher clocked K6s take a multiplier of 2x and set it to 6x as most socket 7 boards lack a 6x multiplier. as for the screen if you adjusted the FSB from 50x2 to 66x3.5 the faster FSB could overclock the PCI and ISA buses and put the video card of of spec? some BIOS have adjustments for this in the menus.

@davidwiley4953

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Nope. I had a problem 233MHz MMX processor running at 300MHz. He's just bad at this because he's a Mac guy.

@eDoc2020

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@@davidwiley4953 I thought the common fast FSB was 83MHz, which would run a 233MHz chip at 291, not 300.

@davidwiley4953

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@eDoc2020 It was rated as 233MHz and technical it was suppose to run at about 266MHz (100MHz FSB with 2.5x multiplier for 250MHz) based on my boards documented maximums but somehow I got a 3x multiplier working on my Socket 7 (not super) motherboard and ended up running at 300MHz even. I had some weird brand board that broke several "rules". Those were fun days.

@eDoc2020

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@@davidwiley4953 100x3 would explain it, although I'm surprised a non-super 7 motherboard would support such a speed.

@davidwiley4953

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@@eDoc2020 It was not suppose to but I accidentallyput the jumpers wrong and it said 300. It was a weird SIS chip board that also used EDO SIMMS but didn't require pairs and even though the BIOS didn't see drives above 80GB, it still booted of a 120GB drive no problem. It broke rules.

You probably have a loose connection in your external monitor.

My Thoughts are, if you modernize this enough to run GTP3, it will ask you to let it die ...

Many 233MHz Pentium MMXs are multiplier locked...

@eDoc2020

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This one definitely isn't. 233MHz is the one speed where it makes no sense to lock because 3.5x is the highest possible multiplier.

@Microang

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@@eDoc2020 I can assure you that they are, and that it's not the highest multiplier. I have a socket 7 board with up to 5x multiplier. And have an MMX 233 in a socket 5 board with a 1.5x multiplier running at 233... 🤣

@eDoc2020

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@@Microang Basic socket 7 is only 2 bits, providing for 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0 multipliers. The third bit is only on some motherboards and is for non-Intel CPUs. When Intel needed higher speeds they redefined the 1.5x setting to mean 3.5x on the MMX CPUs, which is why you see 233MHz. I bet if you keep the bus at 66MHz you can make the CPU run at 133, 166, 200, 233, and nothing higher.

Windows 98 now?

lol that was funny you wanna wacth a draga1 vid i wacth him too

Another brilliant video. Really enjoying this machine!

I think you'd suit having a beard.

*Hey smokers*

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