Just to be clear, Cheesestraws made the patcher - I just put joevt's script into it. I just used ResEdit, Cheesestraws and joevt did all the difficult bits!

@phipli

Жыл бұрын

Also, heads up, FW doesn't show in System Profiler. Plug in a FW disk and it will work, but not show up in System Profiler still. If you have the drivers in of course!

@s6edge7

Жыл бұрын

Stop letting the mad man torture these poor things . But if you dont we will have entertainment

@_lun4r_

Жыл бұрын

Don't pin comments

At some point in the near future, I do intend to make my own version of this card. The PCI-PCI bridge used actually supports up to 4 devices, so if I have enough board space, I may be able to squeeze 4 different controllers on one board.

@dcfuksurmom

Жыл бұрын

Maybe if you added another bridge chip (if that's even possible) you could potentially add even more. At a certain point you'd run into the limits of PCI, if you didn't run out of space first. Makes me wonder how many different things can be integrated into a single card. It could be a fun experiment, I personally don't have the knowledge or resources to try it though.

@Fhwgads11

Жыл бұрын

Any ideas for what the 4th controller could be?

@prototypebuilder5150

Жыл бұрын

Sign me up! Definitely would like one for my Molar for starters. Already have an ATI 9200 and Sonnet USB + FW400 combo card (it also looks like it supports IDE but the headers are not installed). SATA would be nice without a 3rd card.

@daveThbfusion

Жыл бұрын

@@Fhwgads11 probably ... a retro nintendo gamepad controll ...err

@dosdude1

Жыл бұрын

@@dcfuksurmom Actually you could, in theory you can daisychain and infinite number of PCI-PCI bridges LOL. But that's definitely not practical, and no way I'd have enough board space to implement more than 4 devices.

I love this build now. Initially I wasn't happy with how the darker coverings on the speakers looked, but I'm growing to love this unicorn TAM.

The USB 1.4.6 driver for expansion cards is actually from the OS 9.1 retail installer, so no need to use that German installer again when you set up 9.1. Also, don't forget you can also upgrade to 9.2.2 via OS 9 Helper! You may need to reinstall the 1.4.6 drivers at that point but I can confirm that they do work on 9.2.2.

Sean, FireWire won't show up in the System Profiler even if it works (which it should). The Sonnet Tempo Trio (USB, FireWire, ATA-133) exhibits the same behavior. System Profiler just doesn't seem capable of showing the FireWire bus when it's coming over pci-bridge.

@JustinRied

Жыл бұрын

P.S. Count me in for two clear back covers if MacEffects makes 'em!

Okay. You've done it. This has to be, hands down, my favorite Mac of all time. Now that the CD drive is sorted, and USB and SATA and ethernet are all working, well, what can I say? The sound, the looks, the G4! I swoon. Just please, please don't take the BeOS partition off this thing. It was born to dual boot UNIXy stuff. That was... its destiny.

@ruffy45

Жыл бұрын

I think the best thing would be, in fact, to make a copy of the BeOS partitions, and save them somewhere, to be able to go back if you want, but, instead of leaving BeOS permanently on the Hard Disk, install Linux Debian Moderno. It would be survival, wouldn't it?

who knew that by making a TAM fully functional, one gets a magical haircut? steve jobs really had life figured out for us all, huh

That is awesome! Glad it worked out so well in the TAM. I do want to give a huge thanks to joevt on 68kmla, who actually devised that NVRAMRC patch... Which essentially only serves to ensure the onboard video FCode is evaluated last, as it is what causes the PCI bridge probing issue.

@downinthebunnyhole

Ай бұрын

Can you help me? I need to develop a miniPCI EHCI (NEC chip) board for a router.

OMG! You missed a cheap pun! It's not the "All Ten of us are super grateful" but "All TAM of us are super grateful" 😁

Woah that enactment of your fall was savage!.... I hope you had adequate safety standards for a stunt like that.

Thanks for the multiple shout outs bro it was freaking hilarious 🤣 and you’re welcome brother ❤️

You know... Maybe instead of a _whole_ clear back case, maybe it would make sense to get a translucent "bronze" tinted thick dual slot cover or the thin cover for the rear. Not too over the top, and would show off the heart of the machine, without the extreme work of swapping an entire case, which honestly, was _part_ of the selling point of the machine.

Re: Installing OS X on difficult machines. 1. Image your harddrive. 2. Install OS X in QEMU onto the image. 3. Write the image to your harddrive. This has helped me a couple of times with my G3 Desktop that doesn't have a working Apple CD ROM anymore.

If there were ever a card to need a modern clone, it would be this one. (Or the IDE added variant) There are so many Macs that could benefit from such a cool combo card.

I love seeing combo cards in their specific use cases! Even better when you get them mostly working.

Lol, "if this breaks, you get to keep both pieces" I'm getting bamboozled by the boot chime because the TAM boot chime is also my notification sound, haha

I remember that card, I never really thought it was great at the time due to the slots available but it was convenient for sure. I know I bought at least one. I've tossed so much awesome stuff over the years :(

PPA makes a similar card with an included IDE port and is compatible with MacOS 10.x (I used one with a DP mirror mac back in the day)

not just "burned CD" but notice that the +R and -R are DIFFERENT, so it's possible that it e.g. doesn't like CD+R but works with CD-R, or something

@brandonupchurch7628

Жыл бұрын

CDs didn't have plus R and minus R, that was DVDs.

@jan_harald

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonupchurch7628 you're right

Sweet! Also good to know I'm not the only one who uses an internal HTTP server to send things to my Macs!

If a CD-Drive dont read burned CD's ... you need clean the lens. if the cleaning isnt enough -> laser power a little bit higher and the drive work with burned cd's too.

1:52 Best reenactment ever, bravo!

That was suspiciously successful! Are you sure you haven't been replaced by an impostor?

@HungryManticore

Жыл бұрын

Plot twist, it's actually the Whiteboard Guy and the real Action Retro is imprisoned in the basement

@Rorschach1024

Жыл бұрын

Oof! Savage.

@jimcabezola3051

Жыл бұрын

😂😅

Absolutely love the patcher application at 8:33

In older drives when you burn disks, it usually helps to burn them on the slowest speed possible that should give the best contrast in the burned dye, since the faster you burn typically the laser spends less time on each section of the disk and the dye gets burned more lightly which will work fine in newer drives with better lasers and better FEC but on older drives disks burnt at higher speeds usually don't work as well.

@alextirrellRI

Жыл бұрын

Using older media (combined with low speeds) makes a big difference. I've had pretty good luck with Sony discs, but I think I had one older spindle that worked and a newer that didn't. Usually a darker dye will work better.

@brandonupchurch7628

Жыл бұрын

The best would be either disc with Azo dye or the archival grade discs with a gold reflective layer the use Phthalocyanine dye.

I'm happy you got that good working cd drive. This thing needed it so bad!

I was gonna whine about it not being perfect with the broken disc drive before I got to that part. Very nice to see even if it might not be all that useful.

You really need a custom back panel for that thing that can hold everything in nice

Nice wawa bag brother

"If this breaks, you get to keep both pieces." lol

I bet you could 3D print a shroud for the back of this machine with a fan bracket, SSD slot, and and all the slots you need.

Really nice! BUT: Could you 3D-print a new big back for this pritty TAM (that keeps the figure of the non-extended Mac)? I also hated the original extension-box, Apple delivered with this machines. A complete back - with a cap for the cables of additional cards - would have looked much better.

Me likey the black speaker grills on gray case. Beautiful!

Exciting! Always a good day is Action Retro upload day

Fellow TAM owner here, I don't have experience with hardware shenanigans but I'd buy a clear back TAM plate too 😄

That would be incredible for a system im making actually lol, the ideal mix of modern and legacy i/o. Only thing its lacking would be serial and parallel.

Very cool! Hope you are enjoying your ULTIMATE TAM. :D

If you ever get a second one of these (because I don’t want you to mess this up) I think it’d be cool to gut it and put in m1 innards - especially if you can find a 12.1 screen in the retina dpi range with the right aspect ratio. The I/O could be a thunderbolt dock extricated from its case with a custom backplate that conforms to the TAM’s dimensions but modern port layout.

this made me very happy. thank you. =)

How about recreating a batch of these cards with sponsor PCBWay? Sounds like it would be a great small batch hardware run that many here would want to purchase.

How long until the 20th Anniversary Macintosh wants a divorce because of all the shenanigans?

Try OS 9.2.1. My Sonnos pci usb/firewire card works great with it.

"if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces" HAHAHAHAHAHA that had me rolling!!!

@jamilashehu6355

Жыл бұрын

🎁INBOX ME✍️

great shenanigans t-shirt!

Great video.

Would have been cool to see if the back with the case cover looks any cleaner now with the new card.

Make or get a STL model file for the backing. Send it to your sponsor, PCBWay! They do a great job of clear resin prints, and it would cost orders of magnitude less than an injection mold like your old Mac Classic. Probably still not cheap at that size, but who knows... Maybe PCBWay is super affordable?

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

Oh good idea hah

Not much flex but I think I have the worlds most decked out Performa 6300CD. It has the Apple TV/Video system, fax modem, Farallon ethermac PDS card, Apple external video connector, 64mb RAM (with 128mb virtual memory), 128GB sata ssd divided into 4 equal partitions booting OS 7.6.1 and 9.1. Seems like this is 1 of the only models that's can't take a CPU upgrade... even in the cache slot (6360 CPU can be upgraded apparently). For a future video you should service the cooling loop on your G5 quad (think your G5 is a quad) and perform the new blood mod. Will have to do that to mine soon... it runs too hot with no sign of leakage (yet). The dexcool is probably decomposing at this point.

Glad you know Collin dos dude and chad.

You have "not see" the German driver comming xD

I just started watching your video's. I used your G3 upgrade on my mini tower. I put a 350 Mhz G3 processor in it. Original was 266/33. Now it's stable at 433/78 or 416/83. The 433 is just a bit faster. I had a G5 but when turned on the power light just flashes. It's just sitting now.

I know that combo card! I had one in a souped up 8500 for years!

wow, until 13:46 i did not know how much of a "scam" the TAM's speakers were

Legitimately just curious, I'm not aware of any particular reason one might install 9.1 instead of 9.2.2. Is 9.1 significantly lighter or is it just a matter of personal preference? As far as I was aware iIt's not like Windows where 98 sometimes has legitimate benefits over stuff that came after.

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

On a lot of older PowerMacs, 9.1 is the last supported version, and you can't install 9.2 without some hacks

@sedrosken831

Жыл бұрын

@@ActionRetro That's an interesting point and not one I was expecting -- I've never had anything older than a snow white G3 iBook so it's not something I would have run into, actually I'm more familiar with machines being unable to run classic MacOS whatsoever.

now the real question, does the back panel fit?

Thonked the ground in the dramatic reenactment.

"My friend Greg sent me an iMessage" I guess technically it was a PCIMessage

A very successful experiment, but man I beg you please get these raisers and cards properly supported. Such beautiful thing deserves a proper printed cover and mount supports. For sake of health of this beautiful piece of history.

What is the madel name of this card ? I would love to get it for my G4 Mac.

Honestly a card like this just makes me think how this would be the perfect thing for syncing old iPods lol.

With firewire not working... is it a fluke of the dosdude video or is there a solder blob shorting some pins between 70 - 80 of the VIA VT6306 chip?

Wow! DosDude1 is legendary!

Talking about upgrades, maybe upgrade your glasses as a lot of times your footage is blurry. If the problem is not focus, mind that unless you record in 4k, zooming in on footage doesn't add resolution to a 1080p video, it just blows it up blurry.

That is A great upgrade card killer price to. Collin is the man yes you need mark to make you A clear fat back cover for the Tam

"it's not hard once you get the hang of it" - sounds like my uncle the surgeon

Is the Collin that you are referring to the same one that has the "This Does Not Compute" channel?

Oh man, I have that exact PCI USB / FireWire card. Mine also has IDE, I think. EDIT: Fixed spelling mistakes lol

Now waiting for the action retro / this does not compute crossover episode Power PC overlock shoot-out

Can we see it with the extended back on it to cleanly house and enclose all the cards?

Oh, I saw this on eBay a few weeks ago. I thought it was pretty novel!

4:10 I think the card to the referenced video may be missing

1:57 I wish we had Wawa's where I'm at. :(

My old amd had a similar card.

Wonder if dosdude can upgrade the soldered ram on my ol Acer Zg5. Not a mac but it'd be sweet

@s8wc3

Жыл бұрын

If you pay him enough, probably.

@soknightsam

Жыл бұрын

@@s8wc3 not much in the world is free

Does Windows NT for PowerPC work on this? If yes, please quadrupleboot

Can verify that my TAM refuses to load burned disks as well. Can also verify that my TAM bricked (temporarily) when attempting an OS X install. I had to remove the PRAM battery for a few days and it eventually came back to life.

@bad_collector

Жыл бұрын

it will play burned audio discs though. you can turn on with the remote and it will play the audio cd automatically after booting

@tayloralmond

Жыл бұрын

@@bad_collector I never knew that. I appreciate the heads up.

Video idea: watching a bluray on an old mac, or more likely just burning a disk :D.

Speaking of FireWire you need an external VST FireWire drive. One of the little orange and yellow ones.

I saw the Data controller name and almost fell of my chair! And that's not good... I'm in a busy train ..

@tqrules01

Жыл бұрын

Sata rather.. stupid autocorrect

Kinda stupid question, but do anyone know what regulation it is that says that one of the languages in these cd drives. The yellow label that says "class 1 laser product" (luokan 1 laser laite) that one of those languages has to be Finnish. Originally i thought it was some weird North European thing or even just European thing. But i have seen it on devices that for 100% certainty were sold on North America. I have been wondering this this ever since I noticed it on my Playstation 1 console, but back then i just thought it was just an European thing.

I love this project

I can boot my g4 in os9 off a sata ssd, using a sata/ide bridge. Its a 1999 machine and the drive size is limited to 128gb

Wiggle jiggle wiggle jiggle wiggle jiggle. Your animated speech is too cute

Now it's ready to run osx

What next a custom ATi Radeon 9200 with 128 MB video card with a PLX Bridge chip and LAN card? Also a 3d printed case the back of the system?

Too funny, is that tam still a TAM??

I use a triple PCI riser for my 20th and leave the back off for heat venting, since nobody goes around the back (who does) .... hmmm this looks interesting... Poland eh?

@ActionRetro

Жыл бұрын

Neat! What's the triple riser from?

Anyone here remember the games Brickle and Amaze on Mac Classic?

oh course the german driver worked they had no other option

god damned i seen that card on allegro (equivalent of amazon in poland) but i cant find it now

@Sylwek2004

Жыл бұрын

update 2 : full name : KALEA-INFORMATIQUE PCI FIREWIRE 400 Controller Card (Ieee1394a) + USB 2.0 + SATA - 9 Ports

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the mac looks like an oversized floppy disk from afara ahahaha

If that PCI card could also work on Windows 9x, I can think of at least a couple of builds, including one of my own, that would want one of these, as well ⁉️❕

@phipli

Жыл бұрын

I suspect they might. I haven't checked how far they go back OS wise, but mac users spend our time flashing them /from/ PC versions.

@Drucklufttroete

Жыл бұрын

The SATA controller has a driver for 98SE and ME and it works in real mode with the option ROM. I don't know if there is a driver for USB 2.0, but USB 1.1 and Firewire should work out of the box.

@eDoc2020

Жыл бұрын

@@Drucklufttroete The commonly seen "nusb36e" driver adds USB 2 and mass storage device support to 98SE by backporting appropriate files from newer versions of Windows.

@ZeroHourProductions407

Жыл бұрын

Then I suppose my only question is... what is the model of this card, so I can look it up and see if anywhere is selling it? because DUDE!

@phipli

Жыл бұрын

@Jorge Ramos Technically it is a "ST-200"

multiplexers are such a genius hack. i dont understand why people dont use it more often smhh

Oh hey, that's almost my name

There's a good chance your USB Ethernet adapter is faster than that Comm Slot 2 Ethernet card...

I have a name for your TAM, Tammy and why not

Why is the TAM so finicky?

Ah yes, the Jerry Mac

4:10 you forgot the video card.

that poor tam

@Cyber_Gas

Жыл бұрын

that tam is rich on upgrades

@ps5hasnogames55

Жыл бұрын

this is why women shouldnt comment on tech