Our Biggest Install Yet! DITCH Your Unreliable CP4 Pump For Something Better (Fleece CP3 Conversion)

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💪 Convert your 2011-2016 Duramax's fuel system from a CP4 to a CP3 high pressure pump and get performance and piece-of-mind. Since its introduction, the CP4 has proven to be less reliable and less capable than the CP3 used in previous Duramax platforms. Our newest kit includes all of the hardware necessary to replace the troublesome CP4 with a CP3 and requires no tuning changes and maintains all factory emissions controls.
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0:00 Dis-assembly
1:01:00 CP4 Removal and CP3 Preparation
1:30:00 CP3 Installation
1:53:00 Re-assembly and Startup
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  • @Skyhawk172m1
    @Skyhawk172m1 Жыл бұрын

    Just completed the CP3 conversion on 8/10/23 Inspected the pump regulator and fortunately there was no metal contamination. Also per Fleeces recommendations I replaced the left hand fuel rail regulator and the entire injector return line system, Will say I did have some challenging moments during this project but it all worked out in the end. Even though I installed an Airdog lift pump a year ago and the instructions provided a way to remove the factory fuel filter I opted to keep the factory filter for more filtration. Truck started right up after 2 hand primes with the factory filter primer. I immediately took it out for a short test drive and it ran perfect. After making sure the coolant was topped of I to it back out for another run. After getting back home I connected the scanner and no codes popped up. Put DPF into forced regen which took about 40min. The next day I hooked up my 34ft. 5th Wheel and took it on a 10 mile drive with the scanner connected and it ran good and no codes. Very happy with the Fleece kit and would recommend this to any LML owner to do the conversion especially for the piece of mind. If you have some mechanical skills and a decent inventory of tools it can be done. I am 76yrs. old and a retired aircraft mechanic so I guess I might have had a little more background in maintenance but after watching this video twice it gave me the confidence to tackle the job.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    11 ай бұрын

    You're welcome and thanks for sharing! Great info and glad it worked out.

  • @michaeltemme5180
    @michaeltemme5180 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Just completed the install on my 2014 LML. The accuracy and comprehensiveness of this video was a huge help. It saved me time, and gave me peace of mind, as I was able to go back to the video to recheck my work. Fantastic job guys, thanks heaps.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Glad we could help!

  • @jackmills3000
    @jackmills30002 жыл бұрын

    Invaluable information. I now feel that I can make this conversion. Thank you.

  • @chaplainlee
    @chaplainlee2 жыл бұрын

    Very impressed with your video. No foul language and by far the most detailed video I have ever seen. Awesome job. BUT now I think it is time to sell this truck if that is what has to be done to repair it. haha

  • @warrenlange9160
    @warrenlange91603 жыл бұрын

    Amazing job, you are very skilled. Thank you!

  • @KIILew
    @KIILew Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Awesome video! I wish I wasn't so far away (in Washington) as I would love to ask you guys to install this on my 2016 LML!

  • @larrystaats9044
    @larrystaats904411 ай бұрын

    Great video I'm going to get a CP3 pump when I fix my TCM problem. I noticed no key way, I thought they should have a key way in the design just for an extra percussion so the gear doesn't slip. I know if its tightened properly it shouldn't.

  • @cooperc240
    @cooperc2402 жыл бұрын

    Just want to give a HUGE thanks to you and your team for putting this video together. This came in handy FOR SURE!

  • @jimtarwater162
    @jimtarwater1623 жыл бұрын

    I changed my EGR cooler bypass valve which is a lot the same work. This is so much more complicated. Thanks for showing me this may be out of my skills. I may need to have someone do this to my truck.

  • @heberclementiii6788

    @heberclementiii6788

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jim I have a code for EGR bypass now as well on my 2011 . How is the job to do ? Any videos that you know of to follow how it’s done or any tips . Thanks

  • @Haxsaw67
    @Haxsaw673 жыл бұрын

    best in-depth video i have found, great video. I plan on doing this in the next couple of weeks and this helped me a lot.

  • @user-dr9cs6yd7h

    @user-dr9cs6yd7h

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @user-dr9cs6yd7h

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @user-dr9cs6yd7h

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @jamesclark7248
    @jamesclark7248 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video! I'm at 197,000 with my factory CP4. However, I've replaced most of the EPA gear. Even that doesn't bother me as much as the whole limp mode thing. First time was 130 miles out of Whotehorse, YK enroute to Alaska. Last time was on I95 in South Carolina. Both major safety issues due to the unreasonably short mile allowance.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @Konigkev
    @Konigkev2 жыл бұрын

    Such a great video. Thanks a lot guys.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @Trike.
    @Trike.3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video , Its a big help !

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @donesry2902
    @donesry29023 жыл бұрын

    Real nice video. Thank you. I'm proud to say that I made through the whole video without needing to stop and take some advil. My back was definitely tightening up at times with you reaching way across and all stretched out, but I kept breathing made it through.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a champ! 💪🍺

  • @Timboslicce
    @Timboslicce9 ай бұрын

    This looks like so much fun. 🎉🎉

  • @rotordawg
    @rotordawg2 жыл бұрын

    My 2011 LML has 160k on the CP4. I think it is time for a conversion. I don't think I will tackle this though. I loved the video, very professional job and Adam did a great job with the camera! Thanks

  • @Skyhawk172m1
    @Skyhawk172m1 Жыл бұрын

    I just purchased the latest CP3 Fleece kit for my 2016 LML in July 2023. They made a major change in how the dosing lines connect. It now has two flex lines that run from a special banjo bolt on the top of the pump that connects to what they call a cascade block. Also the temp. sensor in mounted into the cascade block that will allow it to function. Also in the instructions when done it states to do a forced regen which I don't see where that was mentioned in the older kits. I bought a scan tool just for the regen. Probably going to start this project next Monday the 31st' of July,2023. I haven't had a failure of the CP4 with 40,000 miles on the truck but this will give me peace of mind hopefully.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope the install goes well.

  • @dennispeet8543
    @dennispeet8543 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video. Thank you very much.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @adolph289
    @adolph2893 жыл бұрын

    awesome . Very very good Video

  • @jasoncato1101
    @jasoncato11013 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful thanks

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped.

  • @Thomas88-_-
    @Thomas88-_- Жыл бұрын

    I live in Canada and I know I must sound cheap but God you look at what's in the kit and your like 1100$ cad really. 2800 with the pump... 1100 for a lift pump. Stuff starts to ad up quick. I'm not poor but these prices sometimes make you wonder. I called a shop to get this stuff quoted asked for "emissions upgrades " and cp3 pump . Told me over 10k. It's winter here so I'm not working outside . Thank God for channels like this showing people how to do this stuff

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad we can help.

  • @Sam1986E
    @Sam1986E3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a conversion video for the CP3 on a Jeep Wrangler?? Would love to see how it works on the Jeep that way I know what to expect when my Jeep is out of the warranty :D

  • @agger838
    @agger8383 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate that!

  • @Robert-md9tb
    @Robert-md9tb3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you well done

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @heberclementiii6788
    @heberclementiii67882 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Once this is in and let’s say you have a Duramaxtuner tune already how much HP can this 50 state legal CP3 pump be tuned to? What Do you recommend as far as upgrading to one of there turbos ( stealth 64 or 67) Mainly use my rig to tow our 5th wheel. About 14 k . But do like to rip it now and then as well . All emissions intact CA . Thank you

  • @danielrlee97
    @danielrlee973 жыл бұрын

    great job!

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @JM-xj6hc
    @JM-xj6hc2 жыл бұрын

    35:50 So.... you're saying I can't do this job with a Menards DeWalt socket set and a couple of combination wrenches? Just messing... Thanks for the vid! HUGE help.

  • @joshuaraleigh8545
    @joshuaraleigh85453 жыл бұрын

    Great work

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @jamespollock9772
    @jamespollock97722 жыл бұрын

    I’m half way threw your video. Since I am taking some parts off, what parts do you recommend I go ahead and change for performance? Any pipes or tubes? I don’t know much about diesels. 2014 duramax. EFI live tuned.

  • @thatgsr8556
    @thatgsr8556 Жыл бұрын

    I am actually in the middle of doing the install, the only thing that i have noticed that is different, the kit i ordered through you guys, and my CP3 didn't come with that dosing line coming off of it like yours does in the video when you are swapping everything over from the CP4 to the CP3, so I am a little confused on what I should do about that, other than that, awesome video!

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The updated kit doesn’t use the dosing lines, and gets fuel supply from the return side. This is updated in the current instructions.

  • @charlesdefrancisco5056
    @charlesdefrancisco50563 жыл бұрын

    Iv been doing mechanical work and engine building for 60 yrs...You have my deepest respect and acknowledgment of your expertise and skills...this job and engine is a mechanical nitemare....the complex design is horrible....I’m so glad I do not own one

  • @MrSmoush

    @MrSmoush

    3 жыл бұрын

    As part of the current generation of mechanics the gm trucks with duramax engines are by far the most difficult to work on. Lots of unintuitive ways to repair anything on the truck. Most repairs are done through the inner fender well which isn’t easy and by pulling the cab. I’ve pulled more cabs on gm trucks than fords 2 fold

  • @sethwilliamson5328

    @sethwilliamson5328

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSmoush It IS an isuzu

  • @corvairwally
    @corvairwally Жыл бұрын

    No diss this is a great video but they did make a mistake in saying the ballance line can not br removed with the turbo still on. I have font it several times. It's a pain in the ass but once u find the perfect position it actually comes out nicely

  • @cowboysbigiron4115
    @cowboysbigiron41153 жыл бұрын

    So when installing the timing gear on the cp3 the nut doesn't seat down level?

  • @RVMD95
    @RVMD953 жыл бұрын

    What a great video! This is one of the most in-depth Duramax videos I’ve ever seen. I am grateful for the knowledge. This video also has convinced me never to buy a Duramax and to go with the power stroke. As the maintenance on the power stroke seems to be 100 times easier than what this mechanic is going through on the Duramax. I wish you luck sir in your continued to work on this machine.

  • @Cordell-

    @Cordell-

    3 жыл бұрын

    I disagree. The 6.7 ford has the CP4 as well. Still a V8 = cramped engine bay

  • @justcrewsn
    @justcrewsn3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2016 LML and lost the CP4 at 86,400 miles. GM did warranty the repairs but I'm wondering if they just replaced it like and kind and wanted to know if this bound to happen to me again? I have 134,000 miles currently and it's all still stock (including the GMC CP4 repair)

  • @nathanhyndman408
    @nathanhyndman4082 жыл бұрын

    First of all great in depth video. I purchased a 2016 lol and was told that a cp3 was installed. Is there a way to visually verify that it was in fact installed without having to move all of that out of the way?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should be able to see to the top of the pump. If there is a fuel metering unit on the top (electrical unit) that you see right away, its probably a CP4. If you have questions send us pictures and we can help.

  • @TheJoe111599
    @TheJoe1115993 жыл бұрын

    @Thoroughbred Diesel --- I installed my CP3 last weekend. Everything went in smooth like in your video. I put some blue locktite on the CP3 pulley nut for some peace of mind. Have you ever had any of those nuts come back off after install?? Thanks for the video, helped a lot.

  • @HIghlander03304

    @HIghlander03304

    3 жыл бұрын

    Curious, are you a professional or shade tree mechanic? This was a great video, but some of seemed pretty daunting.

  • @TheJoe111599

    @TheJoe111599

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HIghlander03304 I don't do this for a living, just work on my Duramax and a few other race cars. It was a tedious job and requires a ton of patience tho.

  • @aaronphillips9760

    @aaronphillips9760

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheJoe111599 how long did it take you?

  • @TheJoe111599

    @TheJoe111599

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronphillips9760 took a whole day pretty much.

  • @claydurham260
    @claydurham2602 жыл бұрын

    he finally took off that massive wristwatch, lol

  • @VinceB391
    @VinceB3913 жыл бұрын

    Considering myself a novice with Diesel engines, I enjoyed watching the install. Excellent work. Enthusiast was a good term to use and I agree. What would you say the maximum horsepower rating is on this conversion, before needing a lift pump?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tuning “quality” is a very large part of what HP a stock CP3 can handle. We have seen trucks make 400HP with little pull on the rail pressure without lift pump.

  • @heberclementiii6788
    @heberclementiii6788 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video, I’m about 1/4 way through and this is very informative. My question is I have a 2011 LML with code P140A . EGR bypass valve . Do you guys have a Video on performing this repair as well ? Looks like your right there doing this conversion. Really appreciate your help. Thanks, Heeb

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    We do not, however if you look at your valve the replacement is pretty straight forward. If you are going to attack this repair on your own, we suggest getting a Alldata or equivalent subscription on your truck so that you will have access to the proper diagnostic, repair procedure, and torque values.

  • @heeb3569

    @heeb3569

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Much appreciated. I am a Technician at Mercedes Benz, so I do this stuff all day and do have access to Mitchell. Just have not done any work on Dmax . I just here that the bypass job is like 10 Hrs? I would assume doing. The conversation and the bypass at the same time would be a good time to upgrade the turbo as well. I currently tuned by Duramaxtuner all emissions intact. I was thinking S&S pump though . Would this pump be able to be tuned more then my current CP4 pump? I know the pressure will be lower but I guess the CP3 flows more . Thanks for all your information. Sorry for the lengthy reply. Heeb

  • @heberclementiii6788

    @heberclementiii6788

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Much appreciated. I am a Technician at Mercedes Benz, so I do this stuff all day and do have access to Mitchell. Just have not done any work on Dmax . I just here that the bypass job is like 10 Hrs? I would assume doing. The conversation and the bypass at the same time would be a good time to upgrade the turbo as well. I currently tuned by Duramaxtuner all emissions intact. I was thinking S&S pump though . Would this pump be able to be tuned more then my current CP4 pump? I know the pressure will be lower but I guess the CP3 flows more . Thanks for all your information. Sorry for the lengthy reply. Heeb ​@@thoroughbreddiesel

  • @billybobs841
    @billybobs8413 жыл бұрын

    Wat year truck is this video done on? And how much is this kit?

  • @rhuey33
    @rhuey333 жыл бұрын

    That’s hilarious!!! “The devil himself installed that bolt”, so “hey Adam, I want you to come over here so I can show them what he did!” 😅😂

  • @bullnpcola

    @bullnpcola

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was the same guy that put the water pump bolt behind the harmonic balancer

  • @franknbeanz8819
    @franknbeanz88193 жыл бұрын

    awesome video. I was going to look at an 11 lml sometime this week, but this changed my mind.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help.

  • @Trike.

    @Trike.

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems every truck manufacturer used that CP4 all the way up to 2018 . Just seems no way around it unless you want to go with gas .

  • @Mikefngarage

    @Mikefngarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    FYI there is a fix for the duramax. But the FORD... Nope. pump wont fit. Duramax is the best option IMO. Just do the job one time and your good for many miles. I hear same pump on dodge too cp4. gotta change it no matter what you buy unless you go earlier than 2011 or later than 2016. and on the ford.... Just would not go there myself.

  • @franknbeanz8819

    @franknbeanz8819

    3 жыл бұрын

    I ended up getting a 2007.5 duramax.

  • @Trike.

    @Trike.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mikefngarage just finished my C3 From CP4 conversion , not fun , very tight spaces, had to have alot of different tools , no rush and took my time , but saved 2000.00 in labor . For what it worth what would a tow cost when our 800 miles away from home with a 30 ft toy hauler and a messed up truck that needs 10,000 dollars to fix now on top of getting me off the side of the road, or worse , out in the middle of a desert . That what made me push though to get it done . I primed the the fuel lines and it started up right away . Oh God ! how do you clean a fuel tank that has metal shavings in it . No thanks , The conversion done is better than thinking about doing all that.

  • @randyjedneak8698
    @randyjedneak86982 жыл бұрын

    Ram has a recall 2019 and up 220thousand trucks with cp4 pump waiting for them to get them in stock as of Jan 6 2022 no date yet ford and chev have same issue no recall there there getting metal shaveing in fuel system check it out

  • @Upliftyourbrothers
    @Upliftyourbrothers3 жыл бұрын

    2021 Cummins went back to CP3 pump!

  • @techs1smh13

    @techs1smh13

    2 жыл бұрын

    As did GM in 19 I believe.

  • @javiera3229
    @javiera32292 жыл бұрын

    So is the SS pump installation pretty much the same thing?

  • @Wanous-hv7zo
    @Wanous-hv7zo2 жыл бұрын

    How long does a cp4 last? I have 130.000 on it now i want to put the cp3 in. I have a 2015 Duramax

  • @Shad0wC0mpany2
    @Shad0wC0mpany23 жыл бұрын

    Wish it could be as simple as saying that this would also work for a 2020 model year 6.7 Cummins...

  • @lg3822

    @lg3822

    3 жыл бұрын

    S and s diesel and industrial injection have cp3 conversion kits for 19 and 20 ram.

  • @Jerrybassman
    @Jerrybassman2 жыл бұрын

    I most definitely cannot do this. I need someone in or near Bakersfield California to do this for me. HELP!!!

  • @anthonyflo-restortion854
    @anthonyflo-restortion8542 жыл бұрын

    Would this work if my lml is deleted?

  • @asuntris2060
    @asuntris2060 Жыл бұрын

    U the best Broo

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @jimsdieselshop
    @jimsdieselshop2 ай бұрын

    So the nut is not flush with the new CP3 pump. I used a ittle loctite to ensure gear doesnt slip. I know on cummins isx engine is standard procedure on none keyway tappered shafts. what your not explaining is the injector return plug that comes with the kit. Or u can explain the procedure to eliminate the stock fuel filter if you want to install a Air dog sys,

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes the nut does not flush up completely but of the thousands of these we have sold, we haven’t had one come apart. With this truck, the plug is not used. And we explain in this video which line to use with a aftermarket lift pump that will eliminate the stock fuel filter housing.

  • @liquidmetal778
    @liquidmetal778 Жыл бұрын

    Which dash monitor will show the fuel valve propotion so i can check if my lml i just got with 180k on it doesnt blow up. I learned that if the valve is showing over 30 percent open its time for a new cp pump

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Are talking about FCA duty cycle?

  • @juancastellon1966
    @juancastellon196614 күн бұрын

    excellent job, one question! How much is the labor cost for that job?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    7 күн бұрын

    You'll need to contact a local mechanic.

  • @Twalters8336
    @Twalters83362 жыл бұрын

    What are you working off of? Looks like the back off an office chair?

  • @jayewing6251
    @jayewing62513 жыл бұрын

    About how long did it take you to do the kit like start to finish

  • @KingRanchW
    @KingRanchW3 жыл бұрын

    if i was to have y'all install this one my truck could y'all also install a wc fab high flow bundle kit?

  • @allandoes
    @allandoes2 жыл бұрын

    Why does the return line of the high pressure rail feed into the supply line of the pump? Shouldn't that return line go back to the tank to be filtered?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    There aren’t any returns feeding high side?

  • @Harlo86
    @Harlo863 жыл бұрын

    Hi anyone know if I have to do most of this to check my fuel pressure regulator on Cp4

  • @aaronphillips9760

    @aaronphillips9760

    3 жыл бұрын

    Should be able to get to it just by moving ac compressor

  • @diezelheadz4421
    @diezelheadz44212 жыл бұрын

    If my duramax is already tuned and deleted do I buy the non emissions compliant cp3 and how do I go about calibrating it like it says on the website

  • @ashtonnelson9474

    @ashtonnelson9474

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have to get updated tune revisions from where you got your tunes

  • @3rdHarley
    @3rdHarley Жыл бұрын

    What parts can I skip removing if I babe deleted all EGR components? And do I need to drain the coolant?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    We can't answer this question.

  • @eliteremovalistsbrisbane1066
    @eliteremovalistsbrisbane10662 жыл бұрын

    Avaliable for ford at all ?

  • @rickbrooks194
    @rickbrooks194 Жыл бұрын

    Great video . What I find odd is the fact that GM knew there where problems with the CP4 clear back to around 2013 on those LML's but yet continued to use them instead of changing back to CP3's or redesigning one to put out the proper fuel pressure that the system was designed for with improved build quality and durability . The one your fixing is a 2016 model ,,, so all that time later and they never even tried to improve that problem . It seems to me that they didn't have the customer in mind too much on that , as that can be a very expensive repair for a customer if that CP4 fails and spreads metal shavings all through the fuel system . I think that that's pretty shitty on their part . I own a 2013 LML 6.6 V8 Turbo Duramax 3500HD Crew Cab , and I'm seriously considering swapping to CP3 on mine for preventative maintenance . Currently sitting at 90.000 miles on it right now . Thanks for the video . Nicely done !

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and thanks you your insight.

  • @kenolson6541

    @kenolson6541

    Жыл бұрын

    Coincidence...... my 2013 LML is sitting at 89,XXX miles, in my shop getting ready to start the CP3 conversion tomorrow. I'm done rolling the dice on the CP4!

  • @MikeGarcia-rg6qp

    @MikeGarcia-rg6qp

    Жыл бұрын

    Highly recommend cp3 conversion asap! DO NOT WAIT!. I'm at 89,000 and decided to order my conversion kit as preventivemeasures. And guess what went out a day before the kit arrived. $1500 turned into roughly $7000 in just parts.

  • @kenolson6541

    @kenolson6541

    Жыл бұрын

    @Mike Garcia that sucks! I finished mine a couple days ago. 18 hours from start to finish, taking my time and being extremely thorough!

  • @jacobgreen875
    @jacobgreen875 Жыл бұрын

    Hey the pump I have doesn’t have a dosing line coming off of the pump, what do I do with the line that connects to the dosing line?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    You have received the wrong kit for your application.

  • @Demonlord468
    @Demonlord4682 жыл бұрын

    Well this video accomplished two things.. I can now do this repair on this particular Engine and Year Model and it reassures me to NEVER buy a General Motors Truck ever. Thanks for both.

  • @Jcrit96

    @Jcrit96

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ford and dodge also run the cp4 pump

  • @ZR1Terror

    @ZR1Terror

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think all American diesel trucks use that pump.

  • @Demonlord468

    @Demonlord468

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZR1Terror Ford does not use a Common Rail Pump for its fuel it instead relies on Oil Pressure from a High Pressure Oil Pump sending fuel to the injectors. And its a lot easier to get to and work on than this for sure. These are also found on Cummins Engines though which I was not aware however it is WORLDS easier non the less on the Cummins Engine than a Duramax. Duramax is one of the hardest engines to work on for just about anything ive ever had the misfortune of working on. And ill admit as much as I love the Ford 7.3L there's some things on those that are a Pig to work on. Cummins is very easy to work on for most repairs just because of the inline engine design compared to the V8 design on the Ford and Chevy engines which give you tons more room to work with. Especially anything to do with the Turbo which is piss easy to work on compared to Ford or Chevy.

  • @ZR1Terror

    @ZR1Terror

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Demonlord468 a friend was telling me new Duramax’ are extremely expensive to delete.

  • @Demonlord468

    @Demonlord468

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZR1Terror They indeed are but, to be fair just about everything is expensive when it comes to Diesel Trucks. And delete service is no exception no matter what brand to be honest. Best of just not buying anything new with that junk of it if you can but, in this market thats much easier said than done for sure. Its exactly why used Trucks with hundreds of thousands of miles on them without all that shit sell for so much right now actually.

  • @lg3822
    @lg38223 жыл бұрын

    Pump gear nut should have a lock washer and be torqued to 85 foot pounds

  • @treighewy1462

    @treighewy1462

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not on the lml

  • @charlesc5983
    @charlesc59832 жыл бұрын

    Question . Why can’t you convert to the denzo pump in the l5p?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tuning, gearing and line conversions would be necessary. No one has tackled the conversion yet.

  • @KINGSTONSPRIDE
    @KINGSTONSPRIDE2 жыл бұрын

    W in TF!!! All this just to get to a pump G WIZ!

  • @TheJoe111599
    @TheJoe1115993 жыл бұрын

    Would it be a good idea to put blue locktite on the CP3 gear bolt and the 3 conversion adapter bolts? I am doing this install next weekend and most likely will be using some.

  • @Mikefngarage

    @Mikefngarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use mega black silicone... Kinda like blue locktight.

  • @jimm2442
    @jimm2442 Жыл бұрын

    How have the Denso Pumps held up on the L5P’s?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    So far so good! But like anything, they don’t like bad fuel.

  • @charlesc5983
    @charlesc5983 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched other videos that put the fuel temp sensor in the cp3 pump . Why didn’t you put it in the pump.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no location for fuel temp on the CP3 on this particular kit.

  • @blimpdude
    @blimpdude Жыл бұрын

    How much more difficult would it be to do this on a 6.6 in an express van? Looking to purchase a 2011.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    About the same amount of time.

  • @kenolson6541
    @kenolson6541 Жыл бұрын

    I'm about to dive into my CP3 conversion. If my EGR cooler is already removed, is there any reason to remove the alternator, or alternator bracket like I've seen in other videos?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    When working with that line, I think its much easier with the alternator out of the way.

  • @kenolson6541

    @kenolson6541

    Жыл бұрын

    @Thoroughbred Diesel thanks. I did remove it, just a few extra minutes was worth it. For others attempting this project....remove the alternator, upper radiator hose, intercooler pipe. Don't bother with the fan, it's not in the way at all. Not sure why instructions say to remove the fan, I didn't.

  • @jlsrr2577
    @jlsrr25772 жыл бұрын

    Just get a disaster prevention kit, the cp4.2 on the 6.7 ford seems alot easier to access then this duramax engine

  • @mikehamilton4433
    @mikehamilton443310 ай бұрын

    What type of topside creeper did you use on top?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    10 ай бұрын

    It’s a cheap Chinese one but it gets the job done.

  • @ronelsen6585
    @ronelsen65852 жыл бұрын

    My LML is built for Off Road, therefore it is EGR Deleted with New Down pipe which deleted my "Dulcer" Line?? I think thats what you calling it? So where the Dulcer? Line attached to the top of the block it is just plugged off on mine. Since the CP3 comes with that Dulcer line attached does that have to be reattached or how do I handle that? I dont have the banjo washer anymore or the dulcer line that I remove from the Down pipe to the top of the block.. I have a plug where it attached to the Injector? I am asking before I have watched the full installation so maybe you address that later in your video.. if so, NEVERMIND.. lol Great video so far.. With mine being deleted it will be a lot easier than the guys working on factory assy's. Thanks for the video.

  • @ronelsen6585

    @ronelsen6585

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did a turbo rebuild on my 2011 LML which if anybody has ever done that, the is another bolt at the base of the Turbo that Satan also located. That was a very daunting R&R but I just walked away from it and kept my patience and finally was able to finish the task.. was very rewarding completing that rebuild. New up pipes as well.. a lot of scratched knuckles and sore fingers when I got done but was worth it.. I feel if I can do that, this CP3 will be fairly easy.. Just need to know how to get around that Dulcing? line that he keep refering to. I capped mine off per the Delete instructions for the new Down pipe.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dosing line which is the line running to the 9th injector. This is an emissions compliant kit that retains the 9th injector.

  • @ronelsen6585

    @ronelsen6585

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thoroughbreddiesel So is there a plug for the CP3 so you can delete that line on the Pump or is that special order?

  • @Hawk375
    @Hawk3753 жыл бұрын

    Time to do a cp3 conversion video for the Cummins. Should be a shorter video at least.

  • @Mikefngarage

    @Mikefngarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    might be easier. is there more space?

  • @Hawk375

    @Hawk375

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mikefngarage cp4 on a cummins is fairly unobstructed. You don’t have to remove components to get to it.

  • @hellojoe70

    @hellojoe70

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful V8 diesels. No room for anything under the hood.

  • @Jacob-nq6ko
    @Jacob-nq6ko6 ай бұрын

    Have a 2016 lml that had the cp4 fail. Had a shop put on the cp3 conversion and a disaster kit. Unfortunately still having problems with starting. The shop went through it and found no problems. As soon as i drove it home which was a 10 minute drive. It did not start again and had to use starting fluid. Any ideas?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    6 ай бұрын

    I would suspect a problem with the collection return from the injectors, or the possibly the tank wasn’t cleaned post failure and unfortunately you could have had more metal introduced into the system.

  • @colbymonroe6131

    @colbymonroe6131

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thoroughbreddiesel you think maybe sucking air? Supply to pump leak with no lift pump?

  • @arniewillis111
    @arniewillis1113 жыл бұрын

    Can you use a CP3 with a 6.7 power stroke

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    As of right now, there isn’t a cp3 conversion for the 6.7 Powerstrokes.

  • @edwardrock1666
    @edwardrock16663 жыл бұрын

    Is this available for a 6.7 powerstroke

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet!

  • @stevenbader636
    @stevenbader6363 жыл бұрын

    Can this kit be installed on an lml with an egr delete or do they make another non tuning cp3 for an egr delete

  • @brannonfrost4286

    @brannonfrost4286

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Thoroughbred offers a kit with a S&S pump/Fleese adapter plate for non EGR equipped trucks.At least they used to,and I hope still do,since I'll soon be getting one myself.It costs considerably less than kit in this video,but lacks the 9th injector line.Not cheap by any means,but less expensive that the more complex kit.

  • @brannonfrost4286

    @brannonfrost4286

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yes,that less expensive and complex kit does require tuning to work.

  • @wesleybudden6077
    @wesleybudden60773 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video on catastrophic fail 2015 duramax

  • @Mikefngarage

    @Mikefngarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would hope somebody changes it before it goes there. One of my subscribers had that cost him more than 10 grand. If you have a duramax 2011-2016 might want to look into doing the upgrade.

  • @wesleybudden6077

    @wesleybudden6077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mikefngarage friends truck He was on a trip 1 1/2 years ago pump failed on interstate .nearest dealership gave him a truck to use while they replaced pump ,now gets fuel pressure code and debris in lines.

  • @briarhenderson9414
    @briarhenderson94142 жыл бұрын

    Cool!)

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very

  • @Flowtester1
    @Flowtester12 жыл бұрын

    I have an LML engine and I’m getting fuel in my oil. On you tube I have seen it can be injectors and injector return lines but that’s on a LB7. I can’t find info on an LML. Do you have any suggestions. I guess I’m asking can it be the CP4 pump or is it most likely an injector problem. I’m not getting a lot of fuel in my crankcase but any is to much.

  • @treighewy1462

    @treighewy1462

    2 жыл бұрын

    Injection pump won't cause that unless it's straight blown out lol, sounds like injectors or washed out cylinder

  • @Flowtester1

    @Flowtester1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@treighewy1462 yeah the washed out cylinder scares me. Injectors don’t scare me as much but I know nothing about these duramax engines or any Diesel engines. But I do like what I’m learning about them.

  • @treighewy1462

    @treighewy1462

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Flowtester1 I own av performance in Oklahoma we are a diesel performance shop, and we deal with these all the time

  • @Flowtester1

    @Flowtester1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@treighewy1462 where at in Oklahoma I live in Oklahoma.

  • @brummerseth
    @brummerseth Жыл бұрын

    Have my entire engine apart doing this. Was stupid and didn’t organize my bolts so I’ve got a large pile of bolts. Is there anyway at all you can help me find out what goes where

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Give us a call and we will try to help.

  • @brummerseth

    @brummerseth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thoroughbreddiesel got it figured out, trial and error. Thank you!

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @woodymiller3895
    @woodymiller3895 Жыл бұрын

    Are there Torque specs with this kit

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes sir, all specs come with the kit instructions.

  • @woodymiller3895
    @woodymiller3895 Жыл бұрын

    What would you charge to do this job. I am willing to bring it over to Ky

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    We only sell parts and make instructional videos. Unfortunately we no longer service customer vehicles.

  • @tundras4ever552
    @tundras4ever5523 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a kit for the 2019 f350?

  • @Mikefngarage

    @Mikefngarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have heard they wont fit in the ford cavity. not enough space. Just keep 10 grand in your pocket for when it goes. IDK if they switched to the CP5 on the 2019. Dont keep up with fords because IMO not something I would own....Too many issues.

  • @tundras4ever552

    @tundras4ever552

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mikefngarage yea im thinking about trading it while it's still worth something haha

  • @wallheadkdir
    @wallheadkdir9 ай бұрын

    How much are you selling the complete kits for ?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    9 ай бұрын

    Give us a call 1-859-737-4966.

  • @johnwehunt4305
    @johnwehunt4305 Жыл бұрын

    So the 2008 Duramax LMM has a CP3 pump?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    It was produced with a CP3 pump, yes. 01-10 Dmax had CP3, 11-17 had CP4’s, and 17.5-Current are HP4 pumps.

  • @loganeasterling954
    @loganeasterling954 Жыл бұрын

    What do you all charge for one of these swaps on an LML? Labor and Materials included.

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    Жыл бұрын

    We no longer service vehicles for the public, so you'll have to contact a local shop.

  • @gorgonbazil2652
    @gorgonbazil26523 жыл бұрын

    Looks like it would be easier to just remove the engine!-----Is why I drive a Cummins!

  • @Joseph96752

    @Joseph96752

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea you’re always underneath the Cummins cause your transmission is trash

  • @tubewaldo
    @tubewaldo2 жыл бұрын

    How many Hours of shop labor does this job call for?

  • @gregmeyer2897

    @gregmeyer2897

    Жыл бұрын

    20

  • @ronniebenoit4081
    @ronniebenoit40813 жыл бұрын

    And remember where that safe place is....because you can't find that banjo bolt anywhere!!!!

  • @bobevans6590
    @bobevans65903 жыл бұрын

    Why did all the manufacturers drop cp3 to the 4? So many problems with the 4 why would they drop something that works?

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most of them were for Race applications. That’s why this particular kit is kinda of a big deal.

  • @gadsdenconsulting7126

    @gadsdenconsulting7126

    3 жыл бұрын

    We can thank emissions nonsense for the birth of the CP4...

  • @Yaboifootchie

    @Yaboifootchie

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cp4 more easily supports emissions standards to include a 9th injector for the DPF

  • @ExCELGamingandMods
    @ExCELGamingandMods3 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone think this will ever be possible with the 6.7 powerstroke?

  • @jetspeed9618

    @jetspeed9618

    3 жыл бұрын

    No reason to. The CP4.2 is a fine pump. The fords also have a stock lift pump which helps

  • @ExCELGamingandMods

    @ExCELGamingandMods

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jetspeed9618 Do all 6.7s have a cp4.2? If some don't, then upgrading to a cp4.2 is probably a much better option than the disaster prevention kits.

  • @techs1smh13

    @techs1smh13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Someone makes a filter kit to catch metal particles on ford. Metal tubes ECT.

  • @aarongustafson6946
    @aarongustafson69463 жыл бұрын

    why do you need to put a cp3 on a 2016, they have the upgraded cp4 2.0

  • @ZoutdoorZ

    @ZoutdoorZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    cause it's the same piece of garbage. The main reason for failure was because it was made by Bosch in Germany where the EPA doesn't exist. The diesel there isn't regulated like ours where you see "15 PPM (parts per million)." As a result, our diesel in the US is less lubricated and the friction burns up the pumps. The other reason for failure is running on less than a quarter tank or close to empty (any air can cause friction and burn them up too). A lift pump is the best bet if you dont want to spend the 3K on a cp3.

  • @JJP937
    @JJP937 Жыл бұрын

    so you have to do a EGR delete to change out the fuel pump makes sense haha

  • @rhuey33
    @rhuey333 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t quite understand all that you were showing… Can you repeat that please! I got a little lost somewhere around the beginning of the video until somewhere near the end! I want to be able to put the CP3 on my 2015 LML. What is a cp3 fuel pump? Where am I? This isn’t real life is it! 😅

  • @thomasbruch3570
    @thomasbruch35702 жыл бұрын

    Drink every time he say dosing line, standard, balancing line...you be fucked! Lol

  • @thoroughbreddiesel

    @thoroughbreddiesel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was so sick of hearing dosing line by the time we finished filming.

  • @thomasbruch3570

    @thomasbruch3570

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thoroughbreddiesel At least you guys did a good job explaining all the steps though!

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