3. The script/story 2. The director 1. The actors and what's on screen

I've seen other clips from this interview, and Welles' intensity is in rare form here. He regretted falling in love with film because he was one of those people who could've done anything. The way he skewers (and then honors) Elia Kazan shows that all he needed was a microphone to express a clarity that most directors couldn't reach with 100 pictures.

@silvermeta2421

2 ай бұрын

i mean it's not like he wasted it playing chess or whatever

@amirrahnama8974

Ай бұрын

Do you know where I can watch the full interview from?

@gianni206

5 күн бұрын

What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?

Orson Welles speaks the truth.

Recently watching Fellini for the first time and wasn't that surprised to see how much David Lynch was obviously influenced by him.

@samaraisnt

Жыл бұрын

Everyone was influenced by him.

@ericjohnson9623

Жыл бұрын

Lynch visited Fellini in the hospital before he died; he talks about it in Room to Dream.

@peterkelnerxd7009

10 ай бұрын

Nah, Lynch doesn't understand Fellini

@thefabro30

6 ай бұрын

why wouldn't he?@@peterkelnerxd7009

@njux1871

4 ай бұрын

@@peterkelnerxd7009 Has nothing to do with being influenced by someone.

"Hey Jerry listen to this! That's gold Jerry! Gold!"

And this is why I don't watch CinemaSins anymore.

@trinex3332

Ай бұрын

Cinema Sins always sucked

@Wapak95

Ай бұрын

🛎

@gmatsue84

20 күн бұрын

@@trinex3332 Yes it did. But you're telling me that still exists?

So that’s where Jerry and Larry got the idea! Who knew?

@antoinepetrov

Жыл бұрын

Seinfeld really does have a connection to Fellini!

@michibubu

Жыл бұрын

Jajajajaja!

@Wapak95

Ай бұрын

🤔

Even Hitchcock said he didnt care about the content but handling the material.

@gianni206

5 күн бұрын

What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?

@user-yourselves47

5 күн бұрын

​​@@gianni206 now nobody knows the first two things because welles didn't say, i'm frustrated....

Ah, the French.

@Floccinaucinihilipilificator

Жыл бұрын

- ..champagne... has always been celebrated for its excellence...

@ShlickMick

Жыл бұрын

MWAH... the frencsh

@viralbuthow000

Жыл бұрын

It's vintage, dated

@DA-wg5cz

Жыл бұрын

"Ulala where's my wine, i need wine to sleep and my old stinky cheese"

@andrewsyouniverse1870

Жыл бұрын

I understood that reference

honestly id cheer if fellini was mentioned too

He’s right

Characters and ideas are what I would say are the two most important things.

❤

He's not wrong

Page said that Led Zeppelin was mostly a band that wrote songs about nothing. It also worked for them. I believe that Buñuel along with his partner at the time, Salvador Dali perhaps made the first ever film about nothing, since the film was just completely taken from their dreams, their subconscious minds. No conscious ideas were even used in the story at all. An Andalusian Dog is that film of course. Honestly though, I'm not sure which film Welles is talking about regarding Fellini. To me Fellini's films often feel full of meaning and intent.

@gabrielegagliardi3956

2 ай бұрын

Led Zeppelin directly stole the songs, they didn't even write them

@jh2245

2 ай бұрын

@@gabrielegagliardi3956 Go back to school.

@gabrielegagliardi3956

2 ай бұрын

@@jh2245I touched your heroes and now you are butthurt, led Zeppelin are for boomers, we are in2024, upgrade.

@jh2245

2 ай бұрын

@@gabrielegagliardi3956 Lol, you're pathetic. Get some sleep, you need to get to school, badly!

@stefano4170

Ай бұрын

​@@gabrielegagliardi3956 esagerato. Perlomeno avevano un sound nuovo,che nel rock è praticamente l'unica cosa che conta

He didn't say "great" he said wonderful the title misquoted him.

What did he say the 2nd most important thing is?

@billygarcia9885

Ай бұрын

Learn every crew member’s name

@vijethshetty4789

25 күн бұрын

And first?

If script is the third, what are the first and the second most important?

@giucas18

10 күн бұрын

I was wondering the same thing

Where can I find this whole interview??

So what was the first ?

@eyeballbilly

8 күн бұрын

the director, his/her voice

If story is the third most important thing, what are second and first?

@Studentofgosset

Жыл бұрын

Fear and surprise.

@afkmike8725

Жыл бұрын

I'd guess that he would say directing and acting. But I disagree.

@Meninx87

Жыл бұрын

Money and money

@dystopian_1

Жыл бұрын

Imagination and money

@bugzyhardrada3168

Жыл бұрын

direction and meaning/depth

Is the fellini film welles is referring to, 8 1/2?

@Arjmm

3 ай бұрын

I think he is referring to his every film

Antonionni was synonymous with nothing. The famous image of the body in Blow Up disintegrates as he enlarges it.

John Huston, Orson Welles and...Peter Bogdanovich?

@Fordham1969

Жыл бұрын

Bogdanovich and Welles were great friends and also collaborators.

@beckoning-chasm

Жыл бұрын

@@Fordham1969 I knew that, I just wasn't sure who that was in the rightmost part.

@Fordham1969

Жыл бұрын

@@beckoning-chasm Oh ok, that's funny I took your comment a completely different way than you intended. I thought you were slyly implying that Bogdanovich didn't deserve to be in the frame with the two other giants.

@beckoning-chasm

Жыл бұрын

@@Fordham1969 No, nothing like that at all. I just didn't know who it was. It kind of looks like Willem Dafoe but I knew it couldn't be, so I guessed. No offense taken, bro.

Too bad we never got to see Seinfeld: The Motion Picture.

Or look at Pulp Fiction.

So Fellini succeed in making a Film about Nothing...(Flaubert wanted to write a novel about Nothing)

@gregorsamsa2271

9 ай бұрын

It's kinda the same with Seinfeld..only in a show sitcom format..

@finnkdy

Ай бұрын

Beckett done it twee keer.

I'm craving Grey Poupon and caviar on blinis, with Paul Masson wine.

Seinfeld's inspiration

i bet somebody clever could extract that phantom shadow overlay/glitch and recombine it with the true image and restore some of the image quality, maybe with ai.

All the 10-time Oscar winners in the comments section are in agreement with Welles here. It's great to see all geniuses agree with each other.

Ironically Fellini remains to be the most nominated Oscar writer Lmao!

@rustincohle2135

Ай бұрын

That's not true. Woody Allen has twice as many Oscar nominations for writing than Fellini does.

My honest opinion after watching Citizen Cane : Masterfull cinematography but surprising little substance. Consistently ranked as one of the greatest films ever made , I have no idea why really. But, he gave this speech 1982, at a time when all filmaking took a turn for the worse in all the world at the same time. So I guess he´s right. He´s furious about the fast approaching commercialisation in the film industry wich really took of in the 80´s

@FirstPlace97

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. I was having a conversation with someone who thought that Everything Everywhere All At Once was an "unbelievable" script. That's how I've always felt about Citizen Kane. It's disingenuous for people to only praise the look of Kane. Every aspect of that film is masterful. Perhaps the greatest cast ever put to film, and maybe the greatest screenplay. Roger Ebert put it best by saying "on the surface, it's as fun as any film ever made; its depths surpass understanding."

@Funkywallot

Жыл бұрын

@@FirstPlace97 I guess i have to re-watch it. It was more then 25 years ago (in my twenties) maybe I was not mature enough

@johncopple6479

Жыл бұрын

I do not disagree with your opinion! On this film . Thx .

@thewkovacs316

10 ай бұрын

lacks substance? it is about a man who wants everything and loses his soul trying to attain it

@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044

10 ай бұрын

You must a profoundly shallow person to watch "Citizen Kane" and find no substance. That's so laughable, I hope you're joking.

Where can i get the rest of the interview

@antoinepetrov

Жыл бұрын

Here it is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH-gq5qzfs_FqM4.html

@guitarista67

Жыл бұрын

Try looking up @ghost ramen's ass.

Euphoria

What exactly about Fellini is Welles referring to?

@saba3653

Ай бұрын

I think 8 1/2, which is about a director lacking of inspiration for a film (but it turns out to be a powerful work of art about the beauty of life!)

Look at seinfeld

@heric_

Жыл бұрын

You're right but Seinfeld is not good, at all. It succeeded just because at that time there was nothing else which was interesting.

@wilfordbrimleypranks

Жыл бұрын

@@heric_ wrong

@rustincohle2135

Ай бұрын

@@heric_ _"You're right but Seinfeld is not good, at all."_ Then why is it consistently ranked amongst the top TV shows of all? _"It succeeded just because at that time there was nothing else which was interesting."_ Then why is it still popular more than 25 years after it's been off the air?

Look at Fellini? Look at Seinfeld!

look at seindfeld a show about nothing

Orson' s ..stage training and attitude....an insistence.. Took him Far..

Well THERE is a show about nothing!

Low concept movies

Fellini and de sica were very beloved by awards Academy

Another example of a movie about nothing, the big lebowski. Yeah that's probably a stupid example to some, but it's still great LOL

@vanderlei1765

Жыл бұрын

It's a great film but hardly about nothing, the story structure is the standard as are the story beats. It plays with that fact and people's expectations of a plot while toying with the idea of it being about nothing but if you watch a Felini or a Godard, you'll see the difference.

@AceLM92

Жыл бұрын

@@curiositytax9360 thanks for reminding me that I need to watch that

@himalayantongue

Жыл бұрын

@@curiositytax9360 I love The Long Goodbye and I agree it's a better movie, but Lebowski ripping it off? I don't see it. Influenced by it in some ways, sure, but rip off is a bit much.

@himalayantongue

Жыл бұрын

@@curiositytax9360 Yeah I see what you're saying, I'm sure it does owe its existence to it. That's how cinema is, a long trail of directors influencing and building upon each other. And PTA certainly owes a lot to Altman. Anyway, yeah, TLG is amazing, I love it to death. Glad to hear you do too. The theme plays in my head often. And I think it has actually exploded in popularity over the past few years. I noticed it on Letterboxd. I'm pretty sure it has orders of magnitude more people now that have it listed as one of their favorites than there were a few years back.

@AceLM92

Жыл бұрын

@@curiositytax9360 I like movies from that era, especially film noir, so it won't be much of an adjustment for me, but thanks for the heads up

Orson Welles: It's a Film about nothing! How do we know when its over? The Uncultured: I do. *doesn't watch*

What’re the first 2 important things? The camera and the edit?

The most nothing director? Melville although there's misogyny suicide betrayal there's ultimately a sense of futility. The critics loathed his nihilism his formal formalization of his nulity Delon plays the same character Jeff either as hit man or Cop in Le Samaurai and Un Flic but it's all impersonal they are types archetypes molded by the exterior coding of the institutions of crime. No private life. The individual disappears in a Zen nothingness. His films always have that feeling of cool distance indifference. Like the blue tint of the photography in Un Flic 1973

Is he criticizing Fellini or praising him?...I am confused

@dropkick45

Жыл бұрын

definitely praising

@sameerahmed-gx8js

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood film in that particular era depends on traditional storytelling (act- act-2 act-3)..... filmmaker like jean luc godard or fellini film doesn't rely on traditional narrative....they made masterpiece about dream, imagination,satire without proper storytelling structure...

@NoOne-tg9tk

Жыл бұрын

@@sameerahmed-gx8js yes...they broke the rules and made something new... very similer to what Joyce or other modernist maestros did in Literature

@Hritik9000

Жыл бұрын

no one can make films like Fellini, they are milestones.

@edmundironside9435

Жыл бұрын

Well he did call it a 'great' film, so I would say he is praising him.

"Look at Seinfeld" *Bass line intensifies*

The author of "Citizen Kane" definitely knows the subject of films about nothing :-)

Nothing?! Dear Orson, this time you were spectacularly wrong....

But you need to be Fellini to be a movie about nothing

Orson sounds a little tipsy.

@BookClubDisaster

Жыл бұрын

Shocker.

@decespugliatorenucleare3780

Жыл бұрын

@@BookClubDisaster would've been surprised to hear him sober

@viralbuthow000

Жыл бұрын

MUAHHHAHAHAHA the French

one could do a film about nothing. the other was a nothing, movie wise. there’s a difference there but probably his ego was too big and his brain too small, to notice it.

Every Altman film is about nothing

Uh?

Sad to think how far French cinema has fallen since Orson gave this speech. We went from the likes of Louis Malle, Truffaut, Godard, to producing the absolute height of mediocrity. The industry in France is completely choked by the worst kind of nepotistic communist dullards. The pearls are almost nonexistent.

@antoinepetrov

Жыл бұрын

That's true. Even so, in my opinion, "l'état français" will always be the land of auteurs - Haneke, Noé, Denis, Sciamma, etc. I am still hopeful that French cinema will have another Renaissance.

@vengeancegauloise6049

Жыл бұрын

@@antoinepetrov i believe so too, and it's true there are some genuine creative voices in spite of the constraints. As a French film school drop out I'm a bit more cynical, you'll have to forgive me for that

@ghostramen3768

Жыл бұрын

"Literature is not good because I only know 3 books" good to know

@vengeancegauloise6049

Жыл бұрын

@@ghostramen3768 "i have no reading comprehension" fascinating

@matheusvillela9150

Жыл бұрын

Godard was a communist

Although fellini entertained with nothing, since he used it to tell about aestheticism, beauty of life and dreams, instead the french bored with their rather dull dialogues about love that made no sense.

Disagree. Never a good movie from a bad script.

@chillimayo2661

Жыл бұрын

He can't hear you he's dead

@vanderlei1765

Жыл бұрын

He's not talking about bad scripts, he's saying that you can make a good movie based on a plot of a man staring at a window. Also, watch Drive. Bad script, great movie.

Жыл бұрын

How do you know a script is bad? You can't read it! As part of the audience, you only get the "processed" part of the script: the lines are being said by an actor and the scenes are being executed by a director. And those two things can make a terrible script look like a masterpiece.

@BloodoperaBlackvomit

Жыл бұрын

What is a bad script? Filmmaking is fluid. Unless you are Tarantino.

@Mr.Goodkat

Жыл бұрын

@ I'm not sure I'd go as far as a masterpiece since a masterpiece would need great everything to qualify, including dialogue which is an integral part to a script so it'd need to be good too.