What a brilliant argument to the film vs. digital debate.

This absolutely inspires me to make more intentional art.

@CockMcBallsddd

9 ай бұрын

The fuck does that even mean

i mean if you end up with 550h of rush for a feature length film, he's not wrong, you'll have to choose and you'll never be sure if you make the right choice, rather than planning out your shots in advance and sticking to it

@losttango

10 ай бұрын

Well that is what film editors are paid for. Although in general it’s a question of sifting through alternative takes to identify the one that works best in context, rather than sifting through coverage footage.

@rainerwernerfassbinder3659

10 ай бұрын

@@losttango I believe no good director trusts a hired film editor. A good director has the film already edited in their head. They only needs an editor to do the manual work.

@antoinepetrov

10 ай бұрын

@@rainerwernerfassbinder3659 true

@losttango

10 ай бұрын

@@rainerwernerfassbinder3659 Well Coppola had "The Godfather" edited down to around 90 minutes before Robert Evans made him put about as much footage again back in and most people would regard Coppola as a good director. My guess is that you have very little first-hand knowledge of film production. In general film is a collaborative process and many if not most films are 'written' in the editing room almost as much as at the scriptwriting stage. (Obviously in collaboration with the director but many editors are given a free hand and work alone much of the time). There are a few exceptions like the Coen brothers and apparently Herzog, but it's rare.

@hdns4

12 күн бұрын

@@losttango It's not a question of one or the other, it's a question of one or both. Directors who shoot coverage still shoot just as many takes. It's why many scenes that should only take a quarter of a shoot day end up going on for the whole day. And it does all come down to either a lack of vision or insecurity. Either the director doesn't know what they want so they just shotgun it and hope they'll hit something, or they don't trust their own instincts and so will shoot the thing they actually want and then will shoot a bunch of worthless stuff "just in case." Ridiculously long hours and films going over budget are huge problems in the industry, and both could be helped immensely if these kinds of directors learned how understand their own vision and then trusted themselves enough to commit to it. Of course, studios definitely share the blame here too. Reshoots due to executive influence are another reason why films keep going over budget. And in the TV world, with how fast turn around needs to be, there really isn't a lot of time for a director plan properly, so shooting coverage is really the only option for the majority of scenes.

Takeshi Kitano said something like that too ... imo, 'covering' comes from school, not from experience ... fear of security, I mean ...

Awesome channel. Thank you for ur efforts in uploading

So very well said.

Though not a film maker, I have always follwed it somewhat closely. I can relate as a photographer though. I learned photography in the mid-80's and did it professionally at vasrious times. I loaded my own film carts from 100 foot film stock cans to save money. In those days we had to learn to be frugal AND thoughful about each frame. Now in the digital age I shoot WAY more frames and the result is a little bit of benefit but a lot of post work. I'm not saying is better than the other, I'm saying economy and thought are valuable, and sometimes boost creativity.

"No guys is very serious" lol

@BarneyOram

9 ай бұрын

An audience of laughing sycophants

Reading his memoir at the moment. When he was born, they broke the mould

One of the greats 👌🏻😎

I don't do film, but I fancy myself a "competent" (not gifted, not an auteur, not pro-grade) amateur still photographer. One of my earliest instructors told me, "every time you aim your camera at something, have a plan for that image - think for a moment about what you INTEND to capture, don't juist capture something just because it happens to pass before your lens."

Problem is that it makes it very difficult and often times impossible to then edit for pacing, you're pretty much stuck with those performances and timing and pace, especially on longer takes. Directors will often go and shoot an insert shot while in post simply as something to cut to in order to swap the takes or edit a piece of a scene that didn't have coverage, but you can only use that trick so many times in a film and it's not ideal.

Werner Herzog has a photographic memory, which helps. Also If you are an editor, and know editing very well, then it is the most helpful aspect to know when actually directing.

@vornamenachname594

22 күн бұрын

are you making stuff up? Ecstatic truth?

@comment15

22 күн бұрын

@@vornamenachname594 Are you a bot? What do you mean 'ecstatic truth'? And no, what I've said is true.

Werner is a great filmmaker, and I love him. So did Klaus Kinski. Klaus was clinically insane, but right about one thing - Werner is a prima donna.

I agree... but 6 hours is insane.

@losttango

10 ай бұрын

I guess you don’t want to spend too long fucking about near an active volcano. Get the shot and get out of there.... 😉

He is right but only for smaller independent films and a visual treatment that calls for master shots. However for films like Mad Max this would not work at all infact its a study in the art of coverage and shot design.

Why do people always feel the need to laugh when this man says something incredibly important with no hint of humor to it. They don't get it. He's not kidding around, he's worried. Listen to the man. He knows things the rest of us don't.

@mtlewis973

2 ай бұрын

haha yeah but have you heard his funny voice though

@koira1

3 күн бұрын

He has a funny precense

He's a pro. It's not all that unusual, outside of creative work, to have to get it right the first time. I've seen guys fired for bending nails. Why would a film production be set up for failure by allowing things to be done wrong? It's not allowed in any serious context.

@SallyMankus130

2 ай бұрын

Not shooting coverage is different than shooting things once.