God Fellini would have a heart attack now.

@InsaneStryker777

14 күн бұрын

He’d have to overcome an intense desire to be the Zodiac killer. He’d struggle to find his better angels. But he would overcome. He’s a good soul of good breeding and varied past lives.

Fellini probably would’ve hated this being a 2 minute clip..

@davidpuente3144

3 күн бұрын

JAJAJA

@diegorom.

3 күн бұрын

For sure

@Hritik9000

2 күн бұрын

lmaao 🤣

@GustavoMaciel

5 сағат бұрын

I agreed with him then skipped it at 1 minute

Never thought about the remote controller that way before. It really was like the original "scrolling" through your feed.

@MassimoDiLello

23 күн бұрын

The fact that it's called 'feed' brings to mind how they consider us as herd.

@AWSOMEPOSSUM16

23 күн бұрын

@@MassimoDiLello Lol how tragically poetic

It's as if he is speaking today !! Right now !! As if it's going on and I am watching him live !! It's that relevant !!

@mrsinkaya

Жыл бұрын

well, the collapse started around those times I guess, or it seems like looking at how relevant Fellini's words are still today. very scary to see.

@rottensquid

Жыл бұрын

@@mrsinkaya It's not really a collapse. It's the way things have always been. In neolithic times, I imagine old poets and tale masters would complain that no one listened to the great stories anymore, ya know, the stories about Zeus or Thor or Anansi, or whatever other prehistoric myth. And yet those myths still pervade the culture. What they mean is, "they don't do it like I did it." And every generation says that. Fellini fell in love with cinema, but in his parents' time, it was considered a low-brow medium compared to books. And the novel was considered low-brow and disreputable when it first appeared. Shakespeare lived to see the puritans close down the theaters of England, claiming them to be a profane affront to moral values. And yet, in Fellini's day, they didn't have these long-form serial TV shows telling a single story over years. From that point of view, a film only requires a goldfish's attention span. I can only assume, were he alive now, he'd see the obvious worth of TV shows like Mad Men, or Russian Doll, or The Last of Us, that take the time to explore deep emotions. That kind of TV content wasn't an option in the 70s when this interview was recorded. Every generation seems to claim the sky is falling, even the geniuses of that generation. Christopher Nolan is freaking out because the cinema is dying off. And that's happening because you can get cinema-level quality playback and sound in your own home, without getting gouged on popcorn. It's not the same as the theater experience, but in some ways, it's better. Change is sometimes good and sometimes bad, and sometimes both at the same time. But it always comes. Complaining about it like this serves no one. He's right that the ritual changed from the time he was a kid. TV changed it. But the ritual isn't the meaning of the ritual. And it is the foolishness of age that assumes the trappings of ritual and its purpose are the same thing. He judges the people he's complaining of without really understanding them. Those of us who grew up flipping channels found our Fellini films that way. David Lynch and the Coen Brothers, two heirs to the Fellini mode of cinema, rose to fame through flipping cable channels, not box office success. Most cult hits were born that way, from the ashes of bad box-office through the womb of cable. The greatest cinematic works of the 80s were largely flops that found new life because enough people who'd initially dismissed them found them by chance cable and were captivated. The artist only has to be discovered once, and when fame comes, there's this arrogant assumption it was inevitable. But great art must be continually searched for. And if flipping channels is a good way to sort through the noise to find the signal, that's what people will do. Or they'll browse Netflix, or sort through KZread to find the hidden gems. This is how it's done now. And when it changes again, I won't complain that it was better in my day. That's never true.

@LukRoes

11 күн бұрын

​@@rottensquid I partly agree with you, but its a double edge sword, it can also acustom people (and I include myself in this) into short attention spans, and instant gratification, just have to look a today social networks and how them exploit people needs for flashy stuff... I am from the generation where doing a zapping was the norm, and its true that we discovered works that usually we would't otherwise, the thing is having time and the patience to give the work a shot, in a world where everybody is in a hurry

@rottensquid

11 күн бұрын

@@LukRoes True, but at the same time, the stuff that's truly good tends to stick, while the mediocre will ultimately be forgotten. Instant gratification doesn't explain how long-form TV is binged nowadays, telling rich, nuanced stories over years. No such thing existed back in the 70s and 80s. It was assumed that the audience wouldn't have the attention span. One of the weird things about getting older is watching everything change for the better and the worse simultaneously. Whatever bad changes happen through social media, TikTok, etc, there's an amazing change happening at the same time. It's really just a matter of what we prefer to dwell on, the things that are getting worse, or the things that are getting better. I always prefer the latter.

@LukRoes

10 күн бұрын

@@rottensquid That's the thing, you got to be aware of both, the things that are getting worse and the ones that are getting better, Giorgio Agamben has an interesting read about this, its called "what is the contemporary", beautifull read, very deep, and very thought provoking

Federico hit the nail on the head.

@blurredlenzpictures3251

2 ай бұрын

Yeah we all know commercials are fun and interesting.

love the fact that he mentions films and everything else as "CONTENT" as a derogatory term. In the same way Martin scorcese also talked about movies being reduced to content in his article "Fellini and the lost magic of cinema".

Well, I'm thankful. To have been able to still see "new" Fellini movies in my lifetime was a pretty cool trade-off with being all old and rickety now. Not on tv but in theaters. I would even go BACK and see the movies againl

This was beautiful.

Gosh do I wanna start learning Italian now, what a beautifully sounding language

fast forward and Tiktok has replaced the attention span of the television and even the youtube viewer with an even more diluted one. The more things change the more they stay the same. The thing Fellini is expressing here is a generational concern which (quite ironically) passes from one generation to the next. The anxiety of being replaced and outmoded by an apathetic consumerism

@annalisavajda252

15 күн бұрын

Well Buddhists believe attachment is the cause of all suffering.

@HeroicHaroon

12 сағат бұрын

change is inevitable

@Vosk21

12 сағат бұрын

@@HeroicHaroon the only constant. it is also, however, completely neutral. there's no law that change must be a step forward.

My Brother and i used to call the theater screen "The Great White God" Everyone would come to stare at The Great White God" 😂

An absolute genius. He was fortunate to have not been around to see the cesspool of the human mind manifested through internet connected cellphones. Thank you for the upload and translated subtitles.

@blurredlenzpictures3251

2 ай бұрын

Are you on the internet living in your cesspool right now??

hvala ti na videu, pozdrav od zagrepčanca!

"don't interrupt an emotion" well, then don't interrupt fellini. where's the rest of the video?

he made me watch till the end(ok maybe 10sec less)

In a few years we will just have 1 second flashbang xommercials and two second content

Si Fellini pensaba asi de la television y los controles remotos como aparatos que promulgaban la incapacidad de concentracion y retencion del espectador que diria de la situacion actual con los celulares y esta locura en la que estamos metidos donde vemos 10 segundos de algo y ya tenemos que cambiar

Thanks 😊👍

Much appreciated.

pensa se avesse visto Tik tok

@michelerusso9745

Жыл бұрын

L'avrebbe adorato avrebbe abbandonato la regia cinematografica avrebbe cambiato il suo nome in federiktoko avrebbe costretto mastroianni Sandra milo e Giulietta masina a farsi un account avrebbe conquistato il mondo con la sua viralità

PREACH

Where can I find the full interview?

@oksimoronko

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know, sorry, I've found this on KZread and made subtitles for it.

@Costantinoization

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ooebsdl9ccuupKw.html should be this one

What would he say for 2024?

TikTok is here now

And now we have TikTok.

prescient

Feel the same way bout gas .......dont interrupt a good fart .....its not everyday that great art comes'long

Fellini would've loved tiktok.

Let's not be too pessimistic. In the atomization, there lies the hidden ability to "go deeper". What happens when you break a Fellini film or any other piece for thst matter, down into discrete entities, while maintaining an understanding of the piece as it may have appeared as a whole? Now the commentary appears beneath it can come from diverse perspectives, (sometimes multiple within one person) and then related not only as a network of connnective tissue beneath the visible iceberg of the piece as it may have been perviously understood, but each discrete noema of commentary may then be related to the network of interrelated perspectives and the connections that obtain betwen them. The opinion of the director/writer dwarfs in comparison, and the idea that someone has the "right" understanding of a piece changes. I don't blame him. Watching this change probably felt like seeing everything he worked for crumble. So it is for any seed that becomes a tree.

Well people are less appreciative of film perhaps and others they bore easily now or have Attention deficit disorders. This reminds me of David Lynch annoyed people watch movies on their phones too that's not how the experience was intended to be either.

For all of history, competition has existed. Some people want to be great artists but most want to win the competition. The accessibility of media has allowed artists to flourish with minimal resources but it has also made the competition more frantic. So many people want a piece of the pie and everyone has access to so much. The people who win by pandering to the audience do so because the audience let's them. I don't think the means of viewing is to blame. People are to 'blame' for not being discerning enough. Many people appear to be happy channel chopping and doom scrolling. They like it. That is the sad reality. These things emerge because of human nature and technology only facilitates. But it is in some people's nature to be discerning, honest, expressive and artful and technology has facilitated this too. The people who want this kind of media will wade through the noise to find it. Fortunately there are still plenty of people who do.

@CastleHassall

Ай бұрын

at least those people you mock are doing what they feel they want to, even if you think it is not good enough

@martincattell6820

Ай бұрын

@@CastleHassall I'm not mocking anybody and nor do I think it's not good enough. I'm saying, if anything, that people who aspire to something different shouldn't blame technology for something that is in human nature. I can find it isolating that more of the people in my immediate life have little to no appreciation for and drive to discover outstanding art. I find it sad for that reason. But I don't mock them and I recognise that, for them, it is good enough and they are happy and I would never dream of trying to ruin that by imposing my views on them. I do think they are missing out but it's all there for them to experience already - they don't need me to impose it on them.

@hd-xc2lz

Ай бұрын

@@CastleHassall Pretty confident we can find entertainment products that you feel are a waste of your time. Dismount that high horse.

he would be greatly disappointed if he saw how my father wacthes films nowadays on the phone playing games or wasting money on whatever chinese market while watching a movie with a remote and muting during the ads only to miss when the film continues again because of the phone

This aired in the 1980s, I believe, and Fellini is right in so many ways. Yet, since then, we have had brilliant artists, filmmakers, like Paul Thomas Anderson, Christopher Nolan. And before them, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola. The lists go on! So, to say it is gone completely is to be logically wrong, but that's all the more reason to be fighting for great cinema and visual literacy, understanding exactly the piecing together of images and sounds that can create glorious dream-like scenes and films such as '81/2'. Humans never really change. Great people and great works will come again. They feared this then and the fact that we still fear it now just goes to show all this.

This clip is too long.

So many mistakes in the subtitles

@oksimoronko

3 ай бұрын

Sorry for the "mascherina" translation, thanks to a KZread commentator here I've learned it means the staff in the cinema hall. Please correct the other wrong translations if you have time, I'm not a native speaker nor of Italian nor of English, thanks!

@antoinepetrov

3 ай бұрын

​@@oksimoronkoI don't speak Italian, but I can correct some obvious things: - "the courtain opens" should be "the curtain opens" - "the revelation starts, the massage" should be "the revelation starts, the message" -"it's forms and ways" should be "its forms and ways".

@oksimoronko

3 ай бұрын

@@antoinepetrov tnx! i'll use a spellchecker next time, may fellini forgive me this time!

Cosa lui vuol dire con "la mascherina"?

@oksimoronko

Жыл бұрын

direi il sipario

@francesco3772

6 ай бұрын

Le maschere, maledetti zoomers, sono il personale di sala.

@oksimoronko

5 ай бұрын

@@francesco3772 Grazie e scusa per la traduzione sbagliata, non sono madrelingua italiana. E sono un millenial. :-)

"as soon as the content doesn't have a sensationalistic hook, you switch immediately" Funny how this critique would come from the more sensationalist one of the great filmmakers.

@rottensquid

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, but could we really call Fellini's work sensationalist? Is he exploitative? A little, perhaps, but not to a sensationalist level. He's not Russ Meyer or Jon Waters. Controversial? Maybe if you get into a debate about what his films mean. Does he use flashy ideas to hook audiences? I suppose, but not the way other filmmakers do. At the time of the interview, sensationalist films like Star Wars or Exorcist or Deathwish or Jaws were coming out. That's the kind of sensationalism he's talking about, a big, broad, simple concept that defines the film, so audiences don't have to spend 15-20 minutes getting to know the characters before they can pick up with the film is laying down. Hell, La Strada is anything but sensationalist. It spends the entire run-time building the mystery of what kind of film it is. A meet-cute? A redemption story? Love conquers brutishness? A girl wises up? It's not until literally the final shot at the very end of the film that the whole thing defines itself as an awakening. And not with fireworks or an epic set piece like modern films, just a closeup of a human being. I think Fellini himself changed his style to look and feel more captivating from shot to shot. Certainly, a few years ago when I hosted a cocktail party and put on 8&1/2 on silent in the living room background, people couldn't take their eyes off it. Whereas I doubt they would have been drawn in by La Strada in the same way. But the reasons why are hard to pin down. La Strada asks "what will happen, how will this go?" While 8&1/2 asks "What is happening here, and what does it mean?" It's easier to give up on La Strada, because we know the answers aren't coming any time soon. But 8&1/2 offers answers immediately, if you read it deeply enough. It's a film happening in the ongoing now. But does that make it sensationalist? I think it just makes it rich, because the fireworks are deep within the layers of story, while the shark in Jaws is right there on the surface. You don't have to dig into a film to find its sensationalism. But you have to dig into every Fellini film to get the gold.

@johnsailorsgoat

5 ай бұрын

@@rottensquidVery well said.

can someone please summarise this video for me, i can't be bothered watching him talk so much thanks!

Old man yells at clouds.

@corailgris

2 ай бұрын

Young man writes idiotic comments.

Great filmmaker, but as per usual, some of them are full of shit.