Oregon town lays out argument to US Supreme Court in case that could empower homeless camping bans

An appeals court decision against the southern Oregon city of Grants Pass shielded homeless people from "cruel and unusual" penalties - that is, being penalized for sleeping on public property when they had no other options. That could soon change depending on forthcoming Supreme Court arguments.
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  • @ronan2792
    @ronan27925 ай бұрын

    It takes both my checks to pay rent and bills. Rent is too high!

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    Get a cheaper apartment.

  • @GreenRanger2015

    @GreenRanger2015

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@TruthFictionhaha I wish. The so-called affordable Apartment structure they just built in my town starts at $1600 a month.

  • @GreenRanger2015

    @GreenRanger2015

    5 ай бұрын

    Ronin 2792 I totally agree with you!

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GreenRanger2015Buy a house. It's cheaper than 1600 a month.

  • @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    5 ай бұрын

    Move a few miles further away for cheaper rent

  • @davidbudka1298
    @davidbudka12985 ай бұрын

    You need to have a program about what has caused widespread homelessness across the West. I think it has to do with the loss of jobs, the cost of housing, immigration, the demand for housing, excessive taxation, inflation, poor environmental and energy policies, and drug use among other things. I have seen interviews where former defense workers are living on the streets!

  • @hl1377

    @hl1377

    4 ай бұрын

    Also the zoning laws and outrageous building permit fees are hostile toward development.

  • @1signalstrength
    @1signalstrength5 ай бұрын

    Like so many other reports this one avoided mentioning the role that addiction plays in the proliferation of illegal camping. The Oregonian just ran a story on how Multnomah County had $14 million to house 300 homeless living in illegal camps in downtown Portland. This plan would have paid landlords rent a year in advance but only 37 of the 300 homeless could be placed in housing. The reason is ADDICTION. The camps provide the perfect supply chain for low cost meth and fentanyl PLUS the camps will tolerate the violent behavior of amped up meth addicts who would get evicted from an apartment even if they paid a years rent in advance.

  • @1signalstrength

    @1signalstrength

    4 ай бұрын

    @@marklampo8164Who am I supposed to believe? You or my own two eyes?

  • @geobus3307
    @geobus33073 ай бұрын

    What is "cruel and unusual" is fining and jailing those who clearly have no means of support. Its like fining and jailing babies or any other people unable to control their own circumstances.

  • @ronan2792
    @ronan27925 ай бұрын

    Rent is too high.

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    Work more.

  • @GreenRanger2015

    @GreenRanger2015

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@TruthFictionI totally agree with ronin, rent is way to high.

  • @forgottenman8629

    @forgottenman8629

    5 ай бұрын

    why have you voted democrat, the party that does its utmost to 'restrict' new housing? @@GreenRanger2015

  • @Golfnut_2099

    @Golfnut_2099

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah... due to higher taxes and higher minimum wages.

  • @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    5 ай бұрын

    Get a roommate and move a few miles further away for cheaper rent.

  • @catherinewilliams9680
    @catherinewilliams96805 ай бұрын

    When did forbidding an action or activity equal punishment?

  • @iMatti00

    @iMatti00

    4 ай бұрын

    🏕 ~ Camping crimes do seem to violate basic freedoms that we as Americans have. I don’t like the idea of people being able to camp everywhere, but think about a dystopian future where there’s not enough houses and prices are outrageous. So your only choice is to camp outside or be thrown in jail. Reminds me of back during the reconstruction era when the Southern states would make laws that they only enforced against Black people to purposely put them in prison so that way they could use them as slave labor. Because if you’re in prison you’re allowed to be a slave according to the constitution.b

  • @shaecloud4403
    @shaecloud44035 ай бұрын

    Scotus just showed us how much they suck

  • @ohotnitza
    @ohotnitza5 ай бұрын

    One question: How will you enforce the ban?

  • @Gfy69ytb

    @Gfy69ytb

    5 ай бұрын

    Homeless camp sweeps at dawn. Don’t you pay attention? Its all over the news in MANY states including California. The official’s actions against the homeless, are pure evil

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    They'll just move people

  • @mr.monitor.

    @mr.monitor.

    5 ай бұрын

    Jail. Tent cities until people decide working is more fun.

  • @mr.monitor.

    @mr.monitor.

    5 ай бұрын

    @stopthecrazyguy9948 I've been a working man for 30 years. Cry harder if you think it helps.

  • @derekconlin1180

    @derekconlin1180

    5 ай бұрын

    Everybody's got sob story, but not everyone is willing to accept, responsibility, and or be accountable for their, choices, and decisions. Falling on hard times is something that is out of a person's control. Most of the homeless population didn't fall on hard times. They chose a path that led them there. Otherwise, they would accept the help that is out there. Instead they chose to remain on the street and continue with their bad decisions. And, whether or not they have addiction issues, it was still a choice they made to use drugs in the first place that led to their addiction. Now they've made their issue everyone else's issue.

  • @Hayley-sl9lm
    @Hayley-sl9lm5 ай бұрын

    Our problem is that people who are not at fault for being homeless, who really deserve help, are now mixed in with a swath of society that has no interest in being employed, following any shelter rules, and just wants to do fentanyl 24/7. No amount of money will get these people off of the streets. Nothing will be fixed until we create incentives for people to get clean and/or until we have more effective less expensive drug addiction treatment. Help people who need it, help the working poor, the disabled with affordable housing and safety nets -- help prevent people from falling into this situation in the first place -- but antisocial, criminal behavior cannot and should not be tolerated.

  • @deanfirnatine7814

    @deanfirnatine7814

    5 ай бұрын

    FACTS, Portland tried and the majority wanted no part of housing that had rules like no drugs or take your meds.

  • @marilynndesilva7620

    @marilynndesilva7620

    5 ай бұрын

    @@deanfirnatine7814 Then the minority that complies gets the assistance and the rest get the boot. Eventually more may be willing to clean up their act.

  • @longiusaescius2537

    @longiusaescius2537

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah

  • @PoonTang-sf8kn

    @PoonTang-sf8kn

    4 ай бұрын

    Im the rare example of someone who successfully kicked fetty using suboxone treatment but I still had to wait in line for two whole months before being accepted into the suboxone program. I come from a lower middle class family and I have insurance but it should not have taken that long to get suboxone treatment and my provider also gave me completely incorrect information, for example I started on a dose way too high and it took way, way longer to kick the habit than it should have. I feel terrible for those that dont have insurance/simply cant afford suboxone or methadone treatment because kicking fetty cold turkey is damn near impossible. Im not that poor but it should not have taken two whole months just to get a few pieces of suboxone strips that can save someones life. The clinic I used to go to also shut down right after I left, zero idea what happened. Its like our government wants druggies to be druggies.

  • @wayneroberts6642

    @wayneroberts6642

    4 ай бұрын

    An incentive used to be a job.. but that's just a punk ass s*** now..😅

  • @kilchiswinters
    @kilchiswinters5 ай бұрын

    So the brilliant and bold new idea is to "fine" homeless people.... You have got to be phuking kidding me.....

  • @7555mac
    @7555mac5 ай бұрын

    how will you enforce the ban, by throwing then in jail with a warmer bed, free medical and 3 meals a day, even ppl already in prison for harsher crimes are asking for extended sentences because they know they are looked after better in jail then on the streets.

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    Actually, they hate that shit because it means no drugs or alcohol for three days.

  • @RyanRuark

    @RyanRuark

    4 ай бұрын

    Whatever cleans up our streets. Jail is a much more cost effective way than our current system of letting leftist grifters rob the taxpayers.

  • @Junzar56
    @Junzar565 ай бұрын

    The crazy 9th is insane

  • @WitchKitty79
    @WitchKitty795 ай бұрын

    The interpretation of that Law is that it is "Unusual" to punish someone who is experiencing hardships such as homelessness. You absolutely CANNOT be mad for people trying to exist close to a city where they are more likely to get social services. Sorry, but help doesn't go to the country and rural areas to make sure everyone is eating, not freezing to death in the weather, or even have any clothes to wear. Seriously people? Why is everyone so Apathetic now? If you or someone you love were on the streets, you would want/hope for any tiny morsel of help (and a itty, bitty, glimmer of hope. And, if it isn't too much to ask for, kindness from another human being.)

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    If someone I loved was on the street I would take them into my house, unless they are crackhead thieves. Oh wait, that might be why most aren't being welcomed in by family.

  • @RachelAmmons
    @RachelAmmons5 ай бұрын

    *if they don’t have enough space for homeless people* is the key phrase. Seems like some of the tax-dodging billionaires could be tapped and we could have all the shelters we need... Why are some people so against the richest of us paying a minuscule fraction of the vast wealth to help society??? Long ago, many ‘asylums’ closed due to lack of funding and droves of people who need mental help got funneled to nursing homes and the streets. It is a huge problem. What are homeless people supposed to do? Maybe the masters just want an excuse to put more people in their for-profit prison systems for the free slave labor… It makes no sense to just sweep these people away as the problem itself when their presence on the freeways is merely a symptom. We need to solve this problem. The elite have succeeded to a terrifying degree in turning the dwindling middle class against “the poors” This whole argument is just an outgrowth of many systemic problems that we are not seriously addressing.

  • @vahagnmelikyan2906
    @vahagnmelikyan29065 ай бұрын

    They don't want to recognize the elephant in the room that rent is simply too high . They don't want to give death penalty to drug dealers to once and for all solve the drug problem, but they want to criminalize the homeless... What a twisted jurisdiction.

  • @pinchebruha405

    @pinchebruha405

    5 ай бұрын

    Both need to be addressed. Camping is not allowed for everyone else. Allowing the homelss to camp where it’s illegal is against the law and just enabling the issues to get worse. Compassion must be tempered with Logic!

  • @vahagnmelikyan2906

    @vahagnmelikyan2906

    5 ай бұрын

    @pinchebruha405 hopefully one day you find yourself in the streets and they use logic instead of compassion.

  • @shaecloud4403
    @shaecloud44035 ай бұрын

    Im homeless and a senior computer science major at msu denver... i am tremendously invested in this issue as it will have a major effect on my way of life if scotus makes it illegal

  • @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    @JudgmentCollectionTraining

    5 ай бұрын

    Everyone without kids chooses to be homeless. It is a choice. Anyone that wants to works can get a job easily. Get a roommate and with both working just move a few miles further away for cheaper rent.

  • @shaecloud4403

    @shaecloud4403

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JudgmentCollectionTraining I don't want to pay rent. That's slavery. I want to save up for a house... until then, I have an arctic fox truck camper, solar power and a belgian malinois + no noise complaints and I don't have to ask anyone before I write on my walls or perform home improvements

  • @shaecloud4403

    @shaecloud4403

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JudgmentCollectionTraining everyone without kids chooses.... tf where do you live? Hopefully I can stay many states away from your dumb ass

  • @novampires223
    @novampires2235 ай бұрын

    Would it be possible to give the people who don't want housing a place to camp? And provide housing for those who want it? It might make it safer for the people who actually want out of that life. 💁

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    Homeless is a massive profit industry so nobody is actually trying to solve it. San Diego recently approved 30 million dollars to renovate an abandoned office building into 42 single bedroom apartments to house homeless people. Do the math. You can buy a house for half that price in San Diego.

  • @RyanRuark

    @RyanRuark

    4 ай бұрын

    How about they walk into the ocean and camp there?

  • @teresaodle857
    @teresaodle8575 ай бұрын

    Why should those not homeless be held hostage in their homes, neighborhoods, cities and town by homeless? Crime, unsanitary parks and sidewalks, drugs, unusable parks, streets, sidewalks. Children un able to play outside.

  • @Champion-jb6uj
    @Champion-jb6uj4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they wrote that long ago before taxes🎉

  • @Csonic23
    @Csonic235 ай бұрын

    Without adequate alternatives, what’s the actual avenue?

  • @Arulane

    @Arulane

    5 ай бұрын

    They obviously aren’t interested in a solution to the problem, if this is where their efforts are. If you want to solve a problem in a lasting way, you don’t do this kind of court case. You address the problem with, oh, say housing? Social programs to address the reasons for homelessness, other than the fact there has been so little affordable housing built in this country that the only surprise is that there is not more homeless than there are.

  • @forgottenman8629

    @forgottenman8629

    5 ай бұрын

    nearly 'all' issues fade away with the one simple solution: J-O-B, wanna know why bums are not prevalent in nearly all of the 195 nations on the planet? The simply policy of if you wanta eat you work, if you want a roof over your head you work, now if bums are so lucky to have a benafcator, meaning some dumb ass family member who opts to support a bums 'chosen' lifestyle bully for them, most do have that, and why? The bum is now 'wholly' addicted to the handout, wanta know why there's staunch opposition to giving a simple shekel to a bum? They'll be addicted to that handout -- 'zero' taxpayer $$ to 'ever' giving to any one who claims bum status. If any one individual 'chooses' to give their $$ to a bum that is their 'choice'...

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ArulaneIt's not really a problem. Vacancies are at an all time low, indicating that the market is pricing to meet demand. That some people want more than they can afford is the issue. If you can't afford to live where you are, move. If you think you can't afford to move, consider what you would be willing to pay to not live on the street because that's the next step.

  • @Arulane

    @Arulane

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TruthFiction wow, why didn’t I think of moving? Oh yeah, money. Your answer sounds good but it’s bs. If people don’t have the money, telling them to move is no help. Affordable housing is needed across the country. Maybe if you don’t understand the problem, you should educate yourself before speaking. Those of us who can’t afford apartment prices currently, if we can find any vacancies, live this problem every day.

  • @tvdinner325

    @tvdinner325

    4 ай бұрын

    Totally irrelevant. These thieving addicts never work and NEVER paid rent.

  • @lamars2486
    @lamars24865 ай бұрын

    Time to tax the churches

  • @Mavrik9000
    @Mavrik90005 ай бұрын

    This is not an argument about this legal issue particularly, it is a general argument for the underlying issue and common sense. 1. If you make it illegal to camp and use jail time as a punishment, that is taxpayer-funded. 2. If you provide some form of housing (a communal bunk bed setting or a tiny substandard home) those are taxpayer-funded. Which of those is less costly? Which of those is more humane?

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    This isn't the 1400s . Stop being hobos

  • @pinchebruha405

    @pinchebruha405

    5 ай бұрын

    No body owes anyone a house; you must first address the psych/addiction issues 1st. Medical care is needed period!

  • @kade115

    @kade115

    4 ай бұрын

    @@terenceflanagan1225hobos are older than society itself. It’s not hobos that are the problem. Its society that lets hobos exist that is the root of the problem

  • @iMatti00

    @iMatti00

    4 ай бұрын

    🏕 ~ Camping crimes do seem to violate basic freedoms that we as Americans have. I don’t like the idea of people being able to camp everywhere, but think about a dystopian future where there’s not enough houses and prices are outrageous. So your only choice is to camp outside or be thrown in jail. Reminds me of back during the reconstruction era when the Southern states would make laws that they only enforced against Black people to purposely put them in prison so that way they could use them as slave labor. Because if you’re in prison you’re allowed to be a slave according to the constitution.d

  • @JudgmentCollectionTraining
    @JudgmentCollectionTraining5 ай бұрын

    Everyone without kids chooses to be homeless. It is a choice. Anyone that wants to works can get a job easily. Get a roommate and with both working just move a few miles further away for cheaper rent.

  • @CH3NO2Semonious
    @CH3NO2Semonious5 ай бұрын

    Before you vote for this ban, take a moment and imagine going to work and then coming home to an empty house. Everything gone. Forever. The furniture, the artwork, your important papers, your pots pans and stove gone. Your dog and cat are gone. The windows have been smashed out and there is a huge hole in the roof. The cops show up and you can't prove you live there so you are arrested. How would you feel in that situation? Because it can happen to you.

  • @jjllama2305
    @jjllama23054 ай бұрын

    Well let's put those homeless in the judges house and see how quickly they overturn that😂

  • @bigbuddabouy
    @bigbuddabouy5 ай бұрын

    Mandate shelters,,,no U cant live on the street, full stop

  • @marykirby1395

    @marykirby1395

    5 ай бұрын

    Cool. You do realize there aren't nearly enough shelters available, right? That's one of the many reasons people are still in the streets.

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    No , it's because they don't want to use them..which isn't really hard to understand but we all make choices

  • @AmyEugene

    @AmyEugene

    5 ай бұрын

    @@terenceflanagan1225 I'm originally from Grants Pass and there really is only one shelter like they said in the report and it's the Gospel Rescue Mission. There's been the same amount of shelter beds available for decades and meanwhile the homeless population has grown much larger.

  • @maddydog1234

    @maddydog1234

    5 ай бұрын

    @@AmyEugeneyes, the community is increasing because people are moving in to these places from all over due to the lack of enforcing laws and easy access to the substances they want, in the majority of cases. There is a bigger issue here that needs to be addressed.

  • @AmyEugene

    @AmyEugene

    5 ай бұрын

    @@maddydog1234 There's drugs everywhere you go in Oregon and they're not hard to get. I live in Eugene and there's people camping all over the place and sleeping in doorways at night. If the police here wanted to devote all of their resources to rounding up and ticketing homeless people, with enough manpower they could easily find 500 in one night. They don't because it's futile and a waste of resources when they can be focusing on actual crime. There's nothing special about Grants Pass. The city has a lot of issues that they've neglected for decades and the only way things will change is if a large group of vocal people coordinate their efforts. They'd need to work on getting likeminded people elected as county commissioners and on other decision making boards. The hardest part would be convincing voters to support changes that require taxpayer funding. People there act like their Constitutional rights are under attack anytime there's talk of raising property taxes 0.1% Something like funding another shelter might have gotten through in the 90s, but ever since the early 2000s it seems like it gets harder and harder as the years go by for Grants Pass to make any changes that involve politics. Personally, I think too many people have moved there in the last 20 years that don't care about the community as a whole. It's sad because more resources for the mentally ill, drug rehab, more living wage jobs and more money spent on education would make G.P. a much better place to live.

  • @hoboheadlines46
    @hoboheadlines465 ай бұрын

    What is the point of imposing a fine on people who are already in financial a crisis ?

  • @edwinlipton

    @edwinlipton

    5 ай бұрын

    It might,,, put um too work cleaning up the mess,,, and themselves? Just a thought in anserw too your obvious, over looked question.

  • @jrraven3230

    @jrraven3230

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@edwinlipton🤦

  • @bristolcorvid8894

    @bristolcorvid8894

    5 ай бұрын

    If these folks have the money for alcohol, drugs, and prostitution, the energy to panhandle and thieve, and destroy the environment, they have money to pay fines for their dangerous, destructive, and illegal lifestyle.

  • @Scroll_Lock

    @Scroll_Lock

    5 ай бұрын

    It's an intervention.

  • @carloscardona6964
    @carloscardona69645 ай бұрын

    People/NGOs are making money on homelessness and migrants...

  • @marmac7619
    @marmac76195 ай бұрын

    I must need to go get my ears cleaned. Did i hear somebody say that somebody said, that 'maybe' if they banned outdoor camping & took away their tents, that perhaps fewer PPL would stay homeless?? Yeah, that'll work. "The Supremes?" kewt! And speaking of who deserves "jail time."

  • @alimeldes
    @alimeldes4 ай бұрын

    This is ridiculous. Close the border and clean up the streets!

  • @tonics7121
    @tonics71215 ай бұрын

    Please, God, give the supreme court wisdom on this one.

  • @iMatti00

    @iMatti00

    4 ай бұрын

    🏕 ~ Camping crimes do seem to violate basic freedoms that we as Americans have. I don’t like the idea of people being able to camp everywhere, but think about a dystopian future where there’s not enough houses and prices are outrageous. So your only choice is to camp outside or be thrown in jail. Reminds me of back during the reconstruction era when the Southern states would make laws that they only enforced against Black people to purposely put them in prison so that way they could use them as slave labor. Because if you’re in prison you’re allowed to be a slave according to the constitution.c But they will reverse this policy because no matter what holes are in the constitution, the eighth amendment never came anywhere close to forbidding this type of law.

  • @Arulane
    @Arulane5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, ban those homeless people. How dare they continue to live when they don’t have a place! Seriously, what do they expect people to do?

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    You suggested it, not us.

  • @Arulane

    @Arulane

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TruthFiction I was being a smartass cause that is what they all seem to be saying. I will bet you haven’t been homeless ever. Yet.

  • @TruthFiction

    @TruthFiction

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ArulaneFunny thing, I will never be homeless since I own my house. It's amazing what you can do when you are willing to work and don't use drugs.

  • @Arulane

    @Arulane

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TruthFiction floods, fires, tornaodpes. Unless you are rich, you can end up homeless.

  • @deanbardos1950
    @deanbardos19505 ай бұрын

    Sometimes, sheters are not safe. PERIOD. I've volunteered and worked with ppl since the 90s...

  • @Turco949
    @Turco949Ай бұрын

    So, people who do not have any money or can afford to pay for housing will be penalized into paying money for being homeless and broke? Makes sense.

  • @JudgmentCollectionTraining
    @JudgmentCollectionTraining5 ай бұрын

    Everyone chooses to be homeless. It is a choice. Anyone that wants to works can get a job easily. Find a roommate or two. Two incomes in one household without kids can easily afford to rent nearby.

  • @greghammett5739
    @greghammett57394 ай бұрын

    The problem with the homeless is they don't think this problem has already been decided upon behind closed doors. IT HAS, YOU LOSE!

  • @pinchebruha405
    @pinchebruha4055 ай бұрын

    In France it is considered cruel and unusual to leave the sick and disabled to languish on the streets!

  • @MoneyMkrMan
    @MoneyMkrMan5 ай бұрын

    good!

  • @terrykroening1379
    @terrykroening13794 ай бұрын

    3-4-24 8;35 pm im homeless on ssi no one wants to rent me a apt or small house i and those like me on fixed income can't afford 1500 to 3000 per month owners are changing and if owners see they can get more money for the same place I wont be able to pay more than 300 pr month go figure so many people are homeless now

  • @hl1377
    @hl13774 ай бұрын

    The 9th circuit court and all the lawyers fighting to trash our communities with homeless camps should be forced to have sprawling camps installed directly on their own personal property, in their yards, garages and homes.

  • @SaltwaterRebellion
    @SaltwaterRebellion5 ай бұрын

    It is not against their will,they will tell you they do not want to go into housing. It is cruel and unusual punishment to force 99% of people to endure the garbage and health hazards.

  • @bitkrusher5948

    @bitkrusher5948

    5 ай бұрын

    But you'll do nothing but whine about having paid taxes to change it !😂.....

  • @largemarge1603
    @largemarge16035 ай бұрын

    * The government agents thrive on chaos. * The government agents get paid irregardless of results... or consequences. . Knowing these two facts, why would they change.

  • @chesterroberts4647
    @chesterroberts46475 ай бұрын

    I’m glad to see you calling them homeless again instead of one of the pc terms. These lawyers are getting insane with their lawsuits. I’m all for helping the homeless, but I’m getting tired of all the enabling we are doing for them. It doesn’t help them!

  • @marykirby1395

    @marykirby1395

    5 ай бұрын

    Enabling? Like not providing physical and mental healthcare for people without support systems? Controlling high housing costs so people who work full time can afford shelter? Yeah. Homeless people freezing on the street are so coddled.

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    Many are there by choice . Stop whining

  • @djackson4605

    @djackson4605

    5 ай бұрын

    @@marykirby1395 Jump straight to hyperbolic, emotional rhetoric... You really should have a better handle on how you handle hearing something you don't like, rather than a full-on guilt trip. You're literally not helping even though you sound like you want too. Use logic instead of emotion and you'll get your solution faster.

  • @bitkrusher5948
    @bitkrusher59485 ай бұрын

    Banning people from housing themselves like every other animal on this planet is cruel..........over regulation has led to this ........people are entitled and cruel bottm line!

  • @AmyEugene
    @AmyEugene5 ай бұрын

    I grew up in Grants Pass and still have friends and family there. This is a city where taxpayers have refused to adequately fund libraries and the police department and if you think taxpayers would ever fund more homeless shelters, you couldn't be more wrong. It would take state funding or some type of grant to add more shelter beds in the city. People there will complain all day long about a problem, and they're right that nobody wants homeless people camping on the sidewalk or parks that can't be enjoyed because of the large number of homeless there, but nobody will vote for solutions, they just want the problem to magically disappear. The way to get the homeless off the streets is to provide them somewhere else to go. That includes more shelter space, transitional housing like tiny houses and more affordable housing. This is a problem all over Oregon and help is needed in small towns and more rural communities too. But I don't know how to fix a city like Grants Pass where voters refuse to fund initiatives that would make the city better. That's why I moved.

  • @jessem7556
    @jessem75564 ай бұрын

    I propose a law to send homeless back to state they were born in 😮That is half the problem.

  • @christophermozeleski7149
    @christophermozeleski71495 ай бұрын

    Ship them to New York and Chicago. They will get to live in 4 star hotels and they will get refillable debit card.

  • @Prevailingbucket
    @Prevailingbucket5 ай бұрын

    We need to return to a nation of people who are law abiding. Doing so will benefit everyone. Homeless camping in public parks is stealing. Stealing from the parents who want to walk with their kids in that park with a general sense of security. Not worried about stepping in human crap or getting poked by a needle that has been provided by the state.

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh you " conservative " you 🤣. How dare you suggest sanity

  • @iMatti00
    @iMatti004 ай бұрын

    🏕 ~ Camping crimes do seem to violate basic freedoms that we as Americans have. I don’t like the idea of people being able to camp everywhere, but think about a dystopian future where there’s not enough houses and prices are outrageous. So your only choice is to camp outside or be thrown in jail. Reminds me of back during the reconstruction era when the Southern states would make laws that they only enforced against Black people to purposely put them in prison so that way they could use them as slave labor. Because if you’re in prison you’re allowed to be a slave according to the USA constitution.

  • @iMatti00

    @iMatti00

    4 ай бұрын

    ⛺️ ⛓

  • @RoseNZieg
    @RoseNZieg5 ай бұрын

    so many camps are dirty and messy. they are a fire hazard. people who want to get help should get help but those who won't help themselves will be where they are....homeless.

  • @ABIGD0NK3Y
    @ABIGD0NK3Y5 ай бұрын

    not that i support homelessness however public property..... is TOTALLY GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.... just try using it for PUBLIC USE

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams49725 ай бұрын

    Those showing favor to the lowly are to be shown favor and those who show No mercy shall receive No mercy from God❤

  • @phil4346
    @phil43465 ай бұрын

    Sick and tired of the homeless plague, fix it.

  • @virginiajune4812
    @virginiajune48124 ай бұрын

    A person has the right to proceed in life as a poor person, not to mention many do not concede in making others rich through rents. Time to move to Russia where someone can have a room with a bath for 200 hundred a month.

  • @dustinryan5912
    @dustinryan59125 ай бұрын

    Thx for presenting this in a Non-biased opinion nice reporting thanks

  • @lamars2486
    @lamars24865 ай бұрын

    Oh okay ... when you have no place to go, and your hands and feet get frozen, numb, nibbled on by rats, then amputated then "the king" has no responsibility in the "greed" he threw down on his subjects ie chattel. But be DAMMED if the king leaves his dog out in the elements. ... okay ... what else can we take out of context from 2000 years ago, oh, oh yeah, an eye for an eye and a pound of flesh entitlement. Gotcha 👍

  • @spunkydunky
    @spunkydunky5 ай бұрын

    This is so condescending I only made it 1:22 in.

  • @RyanRuark

    @RyanRuark

    4 ай бұрын

    Well when you're dealing with adult children and their pet junkies, you have to speak at a level they can comprehend.

  • @davidyonce2238
    @davidyonce22385 ай бұрын

    Fire those judges now.

  • @rbj5767
    @rbj57675 ай бұрын

    We've LOST our humanity. Period. WE ARE LOST‼️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💢💢💢😞😞😞🙏✨️

  • @RyanRuark

    @RyanRuark

    4 ай бұрын

    The taxpayer is done being taken advantage of by leftist nonsense. MOVE ALONG. GET A JOB. GET CLEAN.

  • @moniquesantiesteban336
    @moniquesantiesteban3365 ай бұрын

    This puts homeless people in a deeper hole and ensures that they stay homeless. Don’t see how this is going to solve the problem at all.

  • @tvdinner325

    @tvdinner325

    4 ай бұрын

    These are thieving addicts. If they aren't, there are no shortages of safe-spaces.

  • @ohotnitza
    @ohotnitza5 ай бұрын

    For someone who has 0 dollars, $10 is an excessive fine

  • @allengina1091

    @allengina1091

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes correct

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    That mental mathematic logic was stunning

  • @MeadbeardMcRay
    @MeadbeardMcRay5 ай бұрын

    Book 'em Dan-o

  • @IgobySensei
    @IgobySensei5 ай бұрын

    Why are Oregonians fighting homeless? It will never change. They spoke loud and clear. Just as well open up your homes and show your hospitality. Love thy neighbor. Enjoy!

  • @mr.monitor.

    @mr.monitor.

    5 ай бұрын

    Why do you want people living outside in such a bad place to be homeless? That's really cold-hearted.

  • @IgobySensei

    @IgobySensei

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@mr.monitor.A lot of them choose to live that way. All they care about is the next handout and their fix. You are welcome to support freeloaders all you want.

  • @mr.monitor.

    @mr.monitor.

    5 ай бұрын

    @@IgobySensei I don't support them. I support the US spending money at home instead of overseas and ending the homeless problem. They can't live that way if they enforce the law.

  • @mariahspringstead775
    @mariahspringstead7755 ай бұрын

    Wait! Are they arguing that criminalizing being a human, with human needs, while not possessing an address, is not, in fact, "cruel"? Are they arguing that it is completely okay to charge fines and hand out jail sentences to people for the offence of not being able to afford shelter? What a sick country we are to tell people (fellow Americans I might add) that their very existence is a crime if, for any reason, they find themselves without a place to call home. In the richest country in the world, where we have plenty of room to spare and endless money to give tax brakes to people who don't need them. Can we take seriously these arguments that it isn't cruel and unusual to put a person in jail for needing a place to live? Let's not forget that police camp sweeps routinely robe these people of the few possessions they have. case in point: It is kind of hard to open a can of beans when your can opener was taken three sweeps ago. It's kind of hard not to wide up in the ER with frostbite when that good blanket was confiscated last week. Really how can any feeling human not see that this is very much both cruel and unusual punishment?

  • @edwinlipton

    @edwinlipton

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm a feeling person of 67,, of which I too found myself in dire straights in my early 20's. Slept in abandond cars, under over pass's thru the west. Know what I did to make it to 67? GOT A JOB and became good at it!

  • @email4664

    @email4664

    5 ай бұрын

    No- They are saying get the flock off our streets. Be homeless, but be homeless where you were homeless before this stupid Idaho ruling.

  • @snakesRkewl

    @snakesRkewl

    5 ай бұрын

    @@edwinliptonand ...

  • @phil4346

    @phil4346

    5 ай бұрын

    No rights for the people ruining our once beautiful country

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    " Robe'? They put robes on them? R Those FEINDS .. dude. Try graduating high school and get back to us

  • @kellharris2491
    @kellharris24914 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile billions for Israel and Ukraine.

  • @rubyferrante101
    @rubyferrante1014 ай бұрын

    Get more housing

  • @tvdinner325

    @tvdinner325

    4 ай бұрын

    STOP BREEDING!

  • @CH3NO2Semonious
    @CH3NO2Semonious5 ай бұрын

    If it gets much worse, they might have to tax the rich! Homeless people should be offered a painless end to their problems. I know I'd already be gone if that was available.

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams49725 ай бұрын

    They need to show kindness to the lowly❤😢

  • @Chris4Bama
    @Chris4Bama5 ай бұрын

    Thats not the reason.

  • @email4664

    @email4664

    5 ай бұрын

    fill us all in, expert

  • @jofast7444
    @jofast74445 ай бұрын

    In a republic like ours, public policy decisions are made by our elected representatives, subject to the limits delineated in the bill of rights. Nothing in those bill of rights gives an individual the right to camp wherever he wants. The activist judges of the ninth circuit created that right, just as the leftist Warren court created the right to abortion. Whether and how to regulate camping should be decided by the political process, not activist unaccountable judges.

  • @edwinlipton
    @edwinlipton5 ай бұрын

    Nice. Give um a NEW Harbor Frieght tarp.

  • @MichaelVance-el5mz
    @MichaelVance-el5mz5 ай бұрын

    FUCK that DONT YOU DARE FORGET THE FIRST AND ESPECIALLY THE SECOND AMMENDMENTS!!!

  • @johnnyatoms3620
    @johnnyatoms36205 ай бұрын

    DON'T FORGET THE 4TH AMENDMENT.... ALONG WITH THE 8TH !

  • @email4664

    @email4664

    5 ай бұрын

    Don't forget lower case letters too buddy. Nobody gives a heck about screamers, especially online

  • @johnnyatoms3620
    @johnnyatoms36205 ай бұрын

    HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE TREATED IF IT WAS YOU YOUR DECISIONS ARE EFFECTING.... ?

  • @terenceflanagan1225

    @terenceflanagan1225

    5 ай бұрын

    Ifk why you yelling man ? Its 7 am . You stop that mister !