Supreme Court Shenanigans !!!

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  • @eiyukabe
    @eiyukabe3 жыл бұрын

    One of my most disappointing moments in life was the realization that adults are actually just as juvenile as children, just more complicated about it.

  • @vixxcelacea2778

    @vixxcelacea2778

    3 жыл бұрын

    All the good shit we learn as kids goes out the window. Be kind to each other, share, communicate. It just goes bye bye. We teach people to say yes to pressure and authority and never teach them how to discuss or have a proper argument with out metaphorically throwing poo at the person/party we don't agree with. We're still apes because we refuse to acknowledge our shortcomings and learn to deal with them effectively. Any society/species/country that says it's at it's peak, the best or most evolved is one that's absolutely subject to Dunning-Krueger effect.

  • @MarikHavair

    @MarikHavair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mankind is always ultimately childish, because children express the purist distillation of human instinct. *Ehem,* shameless repost from myself in another comment thread under this video.

  • @eiyukabe

    @eiyukabe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MarikHavair That is actually pretty insightful.

  • @James-xx7yt

    @James-xx7yt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vixxcelacea2778 We live in a system which rewards people with wealth and power for being cut-throat, greeedy and lacking empathy. As much as we wish to teach children to be kind, a 'good sport' and to share those are not the foundational, unspoken rules of our societies.

  • @jayeisenhardt1337

    @jayeisenhardt1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@James-xx7yt Of course giving up your personal responsibility to do good to any system based on faith governments, NGO, massive religions and nine times outta ten they will only pay you lip service while keeping your time/work/money. If they aren't specific about what they are doing then most likely cents on the dollar it's just them panhandling for a paycheck. Exception being government can send men with guns to ensure they can rob you by force, usually selling a bridge to nowhere.

  • @deutschamerikaner
    @deutschamerikaner3 жыл бұрын

    “Shenanigans beget shenanigans.” A proverb of proverbs.

  • @Shenaldrac

    @Shenaldrac

    3 жыл бұрын

    A tautology for our time.

  • @This1Person

    @This1Person

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swear to God I will pistol whip the next guy to says "shenanigans"! -Captain O'Hagan

  • @MickLoaca

    @MickLoaca

    3 жыл бұрын

    Violence breeds violence In the end it has to be this way

  • @appleslover

    @appleslover

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello deutsch

  • @viniciusfriasaleite8016

    @viniciusfriasaleite8016

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm still wondering what does this word means... (I'm from Brazil)

  • @Neotenico
    @Neotenico Жыл бұрын

    Boy am I happy that our nations politics is based entirely around serving its people's interests and isn't just a giant pissing contest

  • @thomashaines3182

    @thomashaines3182

    Жыл бұрын

    Preach. What country?

  • @glerbus9561

    @glerbus9561

    Жыл бұрын

    I love living in a country where a large majority of the government isn't allowed to have breaks and do nothing with no consequences.

  • @Neotenico

    @Neotenico

    Жыл бұрын

    @@glerbus9561 Couldn't be my American ass

  • @ProfessionalBugLover
    @ProfessionalBugLover Жыл бұрын

    the 3 day break thing is like doing 1 easy question on your homework and then taking a break for 11 hours

  • @DLCS-2

    @DLCS-2

    Жыл бұрын

    Speaking from experience, eh ???

  • @MaddJakd

    @MaddJakd

    Жыл бұрын

    When they do it = Meh When I do it = I'm awful, evil, procrastinating, on the road to failure, blah blah bad!

  • @Joy-zp3bt
    @Joy-zp3bt3 жыл бұрын

    The one senator that doesn’t do roll call is in the unique position of accurately saying, “I am the senate”

  • @clueless_cutie

    @clueless_cutie

    3 жыл бұрын

    And in the ultimate nuclear option of saying roll call...

  • @tommytomthms5

    @tommytomthms5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@clueless_cutie or could potentially just make additional rulings by themselves? with a vote of one-zero out of a possible one vote victory?

  • @grantjohnson5785

    @grantjohnson5785

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it wrong that I heard that in Palpatine's voice...?

  • @clueless_cutie

    @clueless_cutie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tommytomthms5 ooooh how has this never been done?

  • @gluesniffingdude

    @gluesniffingdude

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't that announcement imply that they are the only senator present at the session and therefore not have the right to vote for congressional action?

  • @LordMardur
    @LordMardur3 жыл бұрын

    Schrödinger's Senate: The senate is and is not in recess unless someone asks for a roll call.

  • @idiosyncraticlawyer3400

    @idiosyncraticlawyer3400

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can be the first reply to this massively liked comment.

  • @antimatterg

    @antimatterg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except I am the Senate.

  • @user-kx8pu6ys5i

    @user-kx8pu6ys5i

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I'm the senate

  • @bcubed72

    @bcubed72

    3 жыл бұрын

    So, why doesn't a SECOND senator, from the minority party, show up to work that day, with the express purpose of yelling "ROLL CALL!"?

  • @hellfun1337

    @hellfun1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bcubed72 Because going on vacation is a Bi-partisan Rubber stamp.

  • @Bidmartinlo
    @Bidmartinlo3 жыл бұрын

    Senators on "recess": "We're so smart." Also senators: "I don't get why the American people hates us!"

  • @brianbethea3069

    @brianbethea3069

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh no, they understand. They just don't care.

  • @happyfacefries

    @happyfacefries

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @qwertzritter5197

    @qwertzritter5197

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brianbethea3069 indeed ... that would be the little word PERMANENT in the assignment lul

  • @awddfg

    @awddfg

    3 жыл бұрын

    *_You fuckers voted them in lmao_*

  • @just_your_localguard9612

    @just_your_localguard9612

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im convinced all politicians in USA have hatred towards the Americans populace.

  • @asperRader
    @asperRader2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so "happy" that you can accurately depict the highest branches of government as schoolgirls and schoolboys arguing amongst one another with petty bullshit.

  • @rohinkartik-narayan7535
    @rohinkartik-narayan75353 жыл бұрын

    "Full-time pay for part-time work" - the motto of Congress

  • @Serastrasz

    @Serastrasz

    3 жыл бұрын

    A senator's wage is actually really low. Not enough to afford a house within a reasonable distance from the senate. It's yet another barrier to keep normal/honest people out, because being rich/accepting bribes becomes an implicit requirement.

  • @longliveliberty1220

    @longliveliberty1220

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s really difficult to find a good house for $150K year.

  • @Steev42

    @Steev42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Serastrasz The U.S. Census Bureau lists the annual median personal income at $33,706 in 2018. Rank and file senators make $174,000. They make 5 times what the middle-earning American makes. I don't think that counts as 'really low'.

  • @NateBeard

    @NateBeard

    3 жыл бұрын

    With no term limits..... Crazy

  • @dkoda840

    @dkoda840

    3 жыл бұрын

    E. Steev Ramsdell for their role and demand yea it is low

  • @founoe
    @founoe3 жыл бұрын

    2/3 Mathematicians: That's pretty cut and dry. Politicians: Looks like 1/2 if I squint.

  • @flyerton99

    @flyerton99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@farmduck2762 It was originally 2/3, but the Nuclear Option was evoked which lowered the bar to 50. (50 because as Grey explained, when it's 50-50, the Vice President gets to tiebreak, and generally the Vice President votes the same way as the President)

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flyerton99 Does 2/3 get rounded to 67 or 66, in the current Senate?

  • @samuelzuleger5134

    @samuelzuleger5134

    3 жыл бұрын

    In Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, it was two-thirds of present Senators. However, that specifically addressed treaties. Later (and by that I mean later in the same sentence), it only says "advice and consent of the Senate" when addressing nominations. This is why the number is always changing.

  • @aritakalo8011

    @aritakalo8011

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the thing about that is. It was always 1/2 as per constitution. Well most specifically.... Constitution doesn't say any special limit just that: "by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint ... .. Judges of the supreme Court, ...." Which means it pretty much is by default simple majority. Since there are other cases where constitution says 2/3 majority, like ratifying treaties and breaking Presidential veto. Actually just above the nomination bit is the bit of "He (POTUS) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur". So clearly if the crafters wanted they could have also written "shall appoint Judges of the supreme Court, provided two thirds of Senators present concur." They didn't. So to them ratifying treaties was more serious matter than confirming Judges. just saying might be one of those things to amend to constitution. Since to me it seems rather sensible to just have constitutional level demand "Supreme court judges are so powerful, naming them requires 2/3 of Senators present." The reason it was 2/3 was senate internal procedural rule. More specifically filibuster. Which also explains the wobbly limit. the change to 3/5 was the filibuster limit changing and then "nuclear option" is nuclear option of over coming filibuster in general. Not nuclear option to play fast and loose with Constitution.... Constitution in itself was already playing fast and loose with Supreme Court judges being matter of simple approval by Senate. Ergo shenanigans was mostly Senate playing Shenanigans with their own internal rules, which they have power to do and if weren't so stuffy could just say outloud "it's 1/2 now, we decided so." or just say outright "since there is that loophole anyway, lets just say filibusters aren't a thing at all anymore."

  • @pairot01

    @pairot01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carultch I think it would be 67 because 66 is less than 2/3, so to get more than 2/3 you need 67 or more votes

  • @therealbeanbot
    @therealbeanbot3 жыл бұрын

    The whole Recess thing is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever heard about politics and it’s great

  • @Joseph_mama

    @Joseph_mama

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine one mf senator called a row

  • @whyiseverysinglehandletaken2

    @whyiseverysinglehandletaken2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Joseph_mama *roll He won't, if he does, he would be beaten to death

  • @harrylane4

    @harrylane4

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, for the American populace, it’s horrible, but from a comedy standpoint it’s great

  • @lokior8080

    @lokior8080

    Жыл бұрын

    So you can tell someone only watched this video on this topic which is a simplified version of the senate.

  • @_the_bomb

    @_the_bomb

    Жыл бұрын

    Why doesn’t one member of the president’s party call for a roll?

  • @CrusadingJello
    @CrusadingJello3 жыл бұрын

    What I understood: The senate are big babies who don't like it when decisions are made that don't influence them, or benefit the political party.... And take a lot of breaks.

  • @bjorn94

    @bjorn94

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let's be fair now, The President is also a big baby who doesn't like having a counter-power stopping him from making all decisions himself. Big Babies everywhere !

  • @BigAl-is7fo

    @BigAl-is7fo

    2 жыл бұрын

    to be fair, they're not exactly just taking vacations when they're not in session. they're busy campaigning so they get reelected. and campaigning is a lot of work, nothing to sneeze at. but yeah everything else you said is pretty accurate.

  • @herrschaftg35

    @herrschaftg35

    2 жыл бұрын

    And are ridiculously overpaid.

  • @user-svqmbiv

    @user-svqmbiv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bjorn94 yeah this entire video is just a showcase of how self absorbed politics has become.

  • @RGC_animation

    @RGC_animation

    2 жыл бұрын

    And get paid a sh!t ton of money, sounds like fun to me.

  • @Adamimoka
    @Adamimoka3 жыл бұрын

    This is literally just the Congress and the President throwing out “no u” cards.

  • @sacha7958

    @sacha7958

    3 жыл бұрын

    uno reverse card

  • @David_Box

    @David_Box

    3 жыл бұрын

    At this point I'm just waiting for absolutely nothing to never happen anymore because if someone does, they lose

  • @thatrandomnoob8611

    @thatrandomnoob8611

    3 жыл бұрын

    DavidBox why do you think the party platforms haven’t changed in 30 years besides minor issues. Nothing ever gets done.

  • @David_Box

    @David_Box

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thatrandomnoob8611 Minor issuses keep getting solved? Way better that what I expected

  • @Lazypackmule

    @Lazypackmule

    3 жыл бұрын

    The year is 20XX. Everyone cheats the system at TAS levels of perfection. Because of this, the winner of a court appointment depends solely on who is allowed to speak first. The Rock Paper Scissors metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide court appointments. Humanity has reached its pinnacle. The low tier peasants are living in poverty.

  • @scotthaggerty7755
    @scotthaggerty77553 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Grey's been sitting on this one for awhile waiting for it to become relevant.

  • @samuelzuleger5134

    @samuelzuleger5134

    3 жыл бұрын

    So has Senator Mitch Mcconnell.

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    So has everyone waiting for THERE opportunity to exploit a law made in 2013 please explain to me why that law passed making it possible for a more hatted justice to be able to win.

  • @CertifiedSlamboy

    @CertifiedSlamboy

    3 жыл бұрын

    newb mann *Their

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CertifiedSlamboy ok I concede I beter not have spelled concede wrong

  • @someonerandom704

    @someonerandom704

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Newbmann that's a little better

  • @redleader_5
    @redleader_53 жыл бұрын

    8:44 Funny enough in Argengina a really controversial tax law ended in a tie and the vp disagreed with the president, it's probably the biggest middle finger a vp has ever done

  • @Gareth1892000

    @Gareth1892000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell us more?

  • @cakeisyummy5755

    @cakeisyummy5755

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tell us more.

  • @therevan789

    @therevan789

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@cakeisyummy5755 So, this is 2007, the VP, instead of coming from the same political party of the president (or even a major supporting group like american VPs tend to do), was a senator from the opposition that had switched political parties. (In an attempt to broaden support for election) The problem happened on a tax increment on agricultural exports, which is major business due to it being a large part of Argentina's economy, farmers (and importantly farming associations) went on strike, mass protests happened, some against the initiative, then others in favor, road blocks, etc. and the president's approval plummeted. The opposition was against it, and it came down to a tie in the senate (with the tax increase having passed in the lower chamber) Thus, it came down to the VP's vote, who then sided against the tax increase.

  • @Nadia1989

    @Nadia1989

    2 жыл бұрын

    That middle finger had a cost, the vp nuked his political career and went back to his home province. He's now on an advisory role of sorts for his party, and has very sporadic appearances on tv.

  • @rominafourcade9730

    @rominafourcade9730

    Жыл бұрын

    As an argentinian I would LOVE to see Grey try to explain the politics here, because oh boy it makes the US look easy

  • @starlight4649
    @starlight46493 жыл бұрын

    I love how the supreme court justices always look jaded and sick of the shenanigans of the government.

  • @tannerpresswoodmusic
    @tannerpresswoodmusic3 жыл бұрын

    It’s weird feeling like we’re simultaneously living in history and in the future.

  • @pitchblack1012

    @pitchblack1012

    3 жыл бұрын

    which is very motivating, what you do now will literally change the future

  • @surprisedchar2458

    @surprisedchar2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Federal body was designed to be an absolute bureaucratic mess to keep it from gaining too much power.

  • @semaj_5022

    @semaj_5022

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well... Technically we always are? If that helps?

  • @advik5447

    @advik5447

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's called the present...

  • @koltonheath2517

    @koltonheath2517

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@surprisedchar2458 it was just designed based on what sounded good lmao, they had no clue what they were doing

  • @ChengTeoh
    @ChengTeoh3 жыл бұрын

    Adults getting more recess than school kids is just messed up .... could you imagine if kids had a loop-hole they could exploit to force the educational system to give them 3 day recesses every 4 days? That would be the ultimate kid shenanigans!

  • @samuelzuleger5134

    @samuelzuleger5134

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you have it wrong. "Adults" don't get more recess. "Politicians" get more recess. This is why the US Founders who wrote the Constitution suggested it was a part-time job. Then again, they also suggested that pay for these positions be low, and that a two-party political system was a really bad idea...then changed all that after George Washington left office.

  • @TheWickedWizardOfOz1

    @TheWickedWizardOfOz1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adults? In the senate?

  • @valentinlopezrodiguez136

    @valentinlopezrodiguez136

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're lazy bruh

  • @SweetflyRachel

    @SweetflyRachel

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is my ultimate elementary school dream

  • @Mathignihilcehk

    @Mathignihilcehk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samuelzuleger5134 And the President was supposed to be a neutral third party who could walk between the aisles and get compromises from both parties. Which stopped being a thing after George Washington retired and never happened again. In reality, this country really needs a thorough rewriting of the Constitution, with the intent of making it actually work in modern times. This was the original intention of the constitution and the founding fathers. The problem is everyone is terrified the other party is going to make life worse if you rewrite the highest law in the land. For example, some people don't want socialism in the US and some do. That is just one of many issues with the constitution, however. Whether we have a two party system, how voting works, delays, technology, international law and activities, everything under the sun has been changed so radically over time that it NEEDS to be addressed at some point. But unless one party takes 75% control of the states, that will never happen. By the way, THIS is the true nuclear option. Once you touch the constitution, everything else is out the window. Supreme Court only interpret the constitution, so you just rewrite it to be more clear until they obey. You can change everything in the constitution too. Monarchy time? Yup. Murder every person of the other party legally? Yup. There are literally no limits on what you can do if you have 75% control of states.

  • @ericroe
    @ericroe2 жыл бұрын

    Since the Senate doesn’t recess because no one requests a roll, couldn’t a Senator of the same party as the president slip in and call for a roll call? Then wouldn’t they automatically be in recess?

  • @AnEnormousNerd

    @AnEnormousNerd

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only the senator in charge of the session can make a roll call, which would be the person who was assigned by the president pro tempe (the most senior senator). So this would only work if you managed to convince the one person who was specifically selected to not do this.

  • @OctoRang

    @OctoRang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AnEnormousNerd that’s not true, any senator can request a roll call

  • @notmee2388

    @notmee2388

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OctoRang I'm not correcting you, because I don't know the answer, but that word "request" makes me suspect that the request could be denied by the president pro-temp.

  • @OctoRang

    @OctoRang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notmee2388 it could, but he can be overruled by a majority in the room. So if we assume that that senator is the only one in the room, that makes him a majority.

  • @HMASbogan

    @HMASbogan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OctoRang majority in a room to call a roll call to check how many people are in the room? shenanigens at its finest

  • @henry875
    @henry8752 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite things about these grey “politics” videos is that he does say anything about either party and doesn’t mention them, so we can escape partisan politics and just judge what actually happened

  • @ctrl677

    @ctrl677

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think one of the markers of being a mature person is recognizing that politicians on both sides are unruly children who play shenanigans and rule-lawyering at every opportunity to get their way because if they don't get their way they'll throw a tantrum.

  • @andrewbogard2411

    @andrewbogard2411

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ctrl677 this is very true of both parties

  • @SeventhSolar

    @SeventhSolar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewbogard2411 Yep, that's what they said.

  • @marc-andreservant201

    @marc-andreservant201

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think we're not too far away from an unruly cabinet member ordering the DC Police to follow the Supreme Court justices the President wants gone, then impeaching them for the "high crime and misdemeanor" of doing 5mph over. There's technically nothing illegal about that, and the Supreme Court doesn't get to decide what offences are impeachable. Congress does.

  • @wilh3lmmusic

    @wilh3lmmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only is he British, he makes his own parties (Orange and Yellow), but I don’t know any American political party with either of those colors (Dems are blue, Reps are red)

  • @ancientfrosty1861
    @ancientfrosty18613 жыл бұрын

    This is literally like play fighting a kid, but they keep giving themselves invincibility

  • @99999bomb

    @99999bomb

    3 жыл бұрын

    And you/I keep giving ourselves anti invincibility weapons

  • @X-Ter

    @X-Ter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@99999bomb an unstoppable force vs an immovable rock, who wins?

  • @99999bomb

    @99999bomb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@X-Ter answer: the universe implodes

  • @sethstersbench

    @sethstersbench

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shenanigans beget shenanigans!

  • @kieranmcginley1262

    @kieranmcginley1262

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, in- {Title card}

  • @zoisantonopoulos7999
    @zoisantonopoulos79993 жыл бұрын

    Founding fathers : write an extremely complex constitution Politicians : Yeah let's take 3 days off every 4 days

  • @InfernosReaper

    @InfernosReaper

    3 жыл бұрын

    The best part is "no politician can write laws that can cover everything, so a court has to interpret then, even when there are laws that are pretty clear on meaning"

  • @zoisantonopoulos7999

    @zoisantonopoulos7999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@InfernosReaper i mean thats pretty true

  • @Regimeshifts

    @Regimeshifts

    3 жыл бұрын

    Founding fathers : write an extremely complex constitution Founding fathers : own slaves so...

  • @raynmanshorts9275

    @raynmanshorts9275

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not complex. The entire point is for it to be simple. The claim of it being "complex" is just a lie that only serves to help those that want to toss it aside because their ideology dictates that the government should be as powerful as it wishes to be (so that the enlightened elite can rule over us peasants) instead of _extremely_ limited, as was intended by the Constitution.

  • @zoisantonopoulos7999

    @zoisantonopoulos7999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Regimeshifts founding fathers are goats bruh don't ever try disrespect them. Shit I ain't even American but these dudes had almost everything worked out , including slaves . A declaration of it's abolishion was prepared you know the story

  • @luisgay5897
    @luisgay5897 Жыл бұрын

    The more I learn about politics the more I realize that society exists through sheer luck.

  • @owl1095
    @owl1095 Жыл бұрын

    "Because Justices serve for life, the Legislative and Executive branches can't do anything about it." C.I.A.: *"Now this looks like a job for me!"*

  • @UnPokemon

    @UnPokemon

    Жыл бұрын

    Friendly reminder that the CIA is not supposed to have operations within US borders btw X)

  • @ryanrennick9018

    @ryanrennick9018

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Scalia was murdered in his sleep by suffocation from his own pillow... CIA at its finest...damn bastards

  • @cobaltninja489
    @cobaltninja4893 жыл бұрын

    i love how grey depicts the supereme court as a person who's just sick of everyone's shit

  • @kaylenvee8150

    @kaylenvee8150

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, that is pretty much exactly how they feel.

  • @georgesracingcar7701

    @georgesracingcar7701

    2 жыл бұрын

    They do seem to be the only part of government making rational decisions

  • @omarghalab8017

    @omarghalab8017

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like a tired secretary

  • @mpawn

    @mpawn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@georgesracingcar7701 are you sure about this

  • @arizonagreenbee

    @arizonagreenbee

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@georgesracingcar7701 didn't they dismiss a case about Nestlé using child slavery

  • @hasanmuhammad6651
    @hasanmuhammad66513 жыл бұрын

    *Who knows* how many senators are in the room. We'll just presume it's 51.

  • @hasanmuhammad6651

    @hasanmuhammad6651

    3 жыл бұрын

    Math 100

  • @hidratadop

    @hidratadop

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pocketlightt lol

  • @pinkajou656

    @pinkajou656

    3 жыл бұрын

    no one else is in the room where it happens

  • @BlueEngland

    @BlueEngland

    3 жыл бұрын

    There clearly isn't anyone here...

  • @kingofgrim4761

    @kingofgrim4761

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BlueEngland but you can’t prove that

  • @alexholley2712
    @alexholley27129 ай бұрын

    So, what happens if the only senator in the room asks for a roll call?

  • @notawesomebread
    @notawesomebread2 жыл бұрын

    I love the image of senators spending their recess time at the playground swings.

  • @agaifi
    @agaifi3 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, I'm sure glad all these people don't get paid tax dollars! Haha, imagine if they did

  • @happyfacefries

    @happyfacefries

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't remind me...

  • @tlrlml

    @tlrlml

    3 жыл бұрын

    My paycheck has a very good imagination...

  • @churblefurbles

    @churblefurbles

    3 жыл бұрын

    People who are paid in tax dollars should not be allowed the vote, this solves a good amount of the problem.

  • @tlrlml

    @tlrlml

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@churblefurbles How, exactly?!?!

  • @rjmeyers81

    @rjmeyers81

    3 жыл бұрын

    The populous is gullible enough to elect these kinds of leaders. So, I guess they are fine using their tax money this way.

  • @voltarashtavroth
    @voltarashtavroth3 жыл бұрын

    So basically this is just the President and the Senate playing “HAH, YOU THINK YOU OUTSMARTED ME BUT I OUTSMARTED YOU OUTSMARTING ME”, back and forth, on and on and the Supreme Court is like “Ugh...”

  • @LordTelperion

    @LordTelperion

    3 жыл бұрын

    Separation of powers = no room for a king.

  • @eduardoflores5705

    @eduardoflores5705

    3 жыл бұрын

    @TheLastSanePerson in theory of course, almost every person in congress is looking out for themselves, they care about getting re elected and staying in office, not working together to make this country a better place.

  • @shavingryansprivates4332

    @shavingryansprivates4332

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is what the democrats COULD do but they don't because we haven't steeped to this level as republicans have overwhelmingly done.

  • @victorpresti

    @victorpresti

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shavingryansprivates4332 Like when the Republicans decided tho change the law for simple majority instead of 2/3 because they couldn't pass a supreme court judge? Oh wait, that was the democrats.

  • @b.c.a.d.3071

    @b.c.a.d.3071

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joseph would've been a great politician.

  • @orbilu2
    @orbilu23 жыл бұрын

    3:13 CGP Grey literally predicted the last supreme court justice appointment

  • @SomeFreakingCactus

    @SomeFreakingCactus

    2 жыл бұрын

    They have done so in the past.

  • @iamthinking2252_

    @iamthinking2252_

    Жыл бұрын

    The whole 3:00-3:26 was basically Gorsch, and Barrett. Kavanaugh doesn’t really fit into that, but that’s a whole other story.

  • @lil_lyrix
    @lil_lyrix Жыл бұрын

    Remember when we thought selecting justices for life would get rid of outside influences on them?

  • @wack9923

    @wack9923

    Жыл бұрын

    "What do you mean it failed?" - U.S. government

  • @googiegress7459

    @googiegress7459

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like 2/3 majority for senate confirmation would help keep the president from nominating a partisan justice, unless you get a trifecta: president party matches senate majority, senate majority is 2/3, and a SC justice leaves office. Because midterm elections typically swing against the just-elected president's party, he'd need that strong senate backing AND be able to appoint a SC justice in a fairly narrow window. Since the justice's previous rulings are dragged out, and he's grilled in public, and investigated in general, he'd have to have set up his whole life as a sleeper agent for his favored political tribe hoping that he gets a crack at slipping through the Senate's jaws and revealing himself as a fully-operational judicial traitor.

  • @kimmiewise1044

    @kimmiewise1044

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it did get rid of them. Because everyone including Ruth Bater Ginsburg knew Roe was going to fall. Literally every human being that completed law school knew that Roe was ruled incorrectly.

  • @fireant202
    @fireant2023 жыл бұрын

    Really feels like the half plus one was the biggest turning point. Suddenly a nominated justice went from needing to be pretty palatable to most of senate to just needing to convince their half that they'd represent their political will.

  • @Winteg8

    @Winteg8

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly

  • @nathanmeagher7869

    @nathanmeagher7869

    3 жыл бұрын

    how was the nuclear option put in for fucking SCOTUS appointments?

  • @asteriskthegamingstar1891

    @asteriskthegamingstar1891

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just half. Even worse.

  • @francisdrake6320

    @francisdrake6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanmeagher7869 You can thank the democrats for that one as well as a few others that they are now cursing due to it biting them back.

  • @nathanboyles6222

    @nathanboyles6222

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@francisdrake6320 who wouldve seen it coming?!? everyone not on capitol hill at the time

  • @dIRECTOR259
    @dIRECTOR2593 жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans". That, folks, is how the Roman Republic became a military dictatorship.

  • @MarikHavair

    @MarikHavair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Might makes right, and force is the gold standard of persuasion. If for no other reason than that *ethical* persuasion requires mutual goodwill and faith, something which can never be assured. This ensures that *unethical* persuasion (lies deceit and coercion) always holds an advantage, as the only recourse to being cheated is to deal with the schemer on their own terms (at which point all hope of mutual compromise is lost) and cheat back, or walk away empty handed. This's where the gold 'nuclear' standard comes into play, as if you were willing to walk away empty handed you'd likely never have shown up to play ball in the first place. Once you understand this concept you understand the heart of all human interaction, in the past, present and future.

  • @madcio

    @madcio

    3 жыл бұрын

    And this is how USA will rot into far-rightwing dictatorship. Currently we are in transitional phase.

  • @johnathanarcher6999

    @johnathanarcher6999

    3 жыл бұрын

    That, and an assassination of one Julius Caesar. But potato potato

  • @dIRECTOR259

    @dIRECTOR259

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnathanarcher6999 Oh no, it was long dead by that point.

  • @Polyglot_English

    @Polyglot_English

    3 жыл бұрын

    ***VOTE THIRD PARTY***

  • @raskal8112
    @raskal81122 жыл бұрын

    I love how the supreme court is just like "Okay, okay, what's the problem?" and just constantly tired.

  • @ethanstyant9704

    @ethanstyant9704

    Жыл бұрын

    Which is surprising considering they are never working

  • @wickle.
    @wickle. Жыл бұрын

    I think we all know why we are here in this point in history

  • @dexter2392

    @dexter2392

    Жыл бұрын

    Roe v Wade

  • @Palpad100

    @Palpad100

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah...

  • @supremecalamitas342

    @supremecalamitas342

    Жыл бұрын

    pretty much

  • @Qaptyl

    @Qaptyl

    Жыл бұрын

    its funny to watch people get so angry about their side of an issue which doesnt matter at all

  • @WouldntULikeToKnow.

    @WouldntULikeToKnow.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Qaptyl it matters to a lot of us because it impacts us directly but I'm sure you don't give a damn.

  • @tim.dedopulos
    @tim.dedopulos3 жыл бұрын

    I love that Grey can turn a stick figure into an instantly-identifiable fed with a pair of sunglasses and an earpiece.

  • @dog2man1994

    @dog2man1994

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be the first time. Probably got it from newgrounds. We can't forget about no punctuation either.

  • @Midorikonokami

    @Midorikonokami

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ibid

  • @jaybefaulky4902

    @jaybefaulky4902

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes this was entirely done by software all you need to do is put a picture of what the person looks like and it'll turn into a stick figure all these Stick Figures were based on original images of people

  • @Wintermute909

    @Wintermute909

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's also fun to mute his videos and see just how much of the gist is still understandable. (a lot)

  • @FloridaManGraySTOP

    @FloridaManGraySTOP

    3 жыл бұрын

    And how a colored tie can change someone from a regular Joe into the President of the United States of America.

  • @Yoshiyosh
    @Yoshiyosh3 жыл бұрын

    "Irreversible-hmm-decision" "two-thirds-hmm-majority" heh

  • @Sporcle1

    @Sporcle1

    3 жыл бұрын

    yoy

  • @stevenmanley8924

    @stevenmanley8924

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had to back up the video both times to understand what he was saying :D

  • @manojraghavendran5760

    @manojraghavendran5760

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenmanley8924 I dont get it

  • @moralfagov

    @moralfagov

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@manojraghavendran5760 By "hmm"s Grey shows that there are huge asterisks in the rules, but he can't go over them in that point in the video, that induces the funny

  • @jan-seli
    @jan-seli Жыл бұрын

    Can the senate's pro-forma session strategy not be blocked by a single senator loyal to the president asking for a roll call?

  • @jeffbenton6183
    @jeffbenton6183 Жыл бұрын

    6:50 This makes me really want to run for Senate with the sole purpose of showing up on one of those "totally-not-a-recess" days just to call a roll call vote to troll all my (hypothetical) colleagues.

  • @ScottKorin
    @ScottKorin3 жыл бұрын

    6:58 so, theoretically, a senator wanting to spoil these shenanigans could show up and ask for a roll call, right?

  • @TheNixie1972

    @TheNixie1972

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess so and I also guess that would be the last time he/she ever gets assigned to anything in the Senate or even the party.

  • @jumpersmile9841

    @jumpersmile9841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, any senator can ask for a roll call.

  • @aenetanthony

    @aenetanthony

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well yes, but they wouldn't get chosen for that ever again.

  • @ryubiggie

    @ryubiggie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aenetanthony unless they where in the room but not the senator in charge and just raised they hand and asked for a roll call. That might do it, I think, maybe, I'm actually not sure at all.

  • @bluwasabi7635

    @bluwasabi7635

    3 жыл бұрын

    seems right...and it might be pretty funny to witness too.

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton3 жыл бұрын

    “Shenanigans beget shenanagins.”

  • @Evirthewarrior

    @Evirthewarrior

    3 жыл бұрын

    Senator Harry Reid was the first to use pro forma sessions to block President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Well at least we know how it started.

  • @Emploon_Yeesly

    @Emploon_Yeesly

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans" is my new motto.

  • @Miranox2

    @Miranox2

    3 жыл бұрын

    The truest truth that had ever been spoken.

  • @lolipedofin

    @lolipedofin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey yo, fellow Bill Maher viewer.... Nvm, I just watched to the point where CGP Grey said it... lol. Maybe he watches Maher??

  • @FLanklinBadge

    @FLanklinBadge

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Evirthewarrior Not to mention Reid pulling the nuclear option on federal judicial appointees (minus the Supreme Court) when the GOP started playing the same game as Reid.

  • @cyborgsheep6077
    @cyborgsheep6077 Жыл бұрын

    I love how this video escalates from innocent asterisks to full on thermonuclear shenanigans

  • @Aperson-pc4we
    @Aperson-pc4we2 жыл бұрын

    I love how Grey sounds like he is genuinely about to laugh at 6:22

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms3 жыл бұрын

    The fall of the Roman republic summed up in one phrase: Shenanigans beget shenanigans.

  • @zachattack1279

    @zachattack1279

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought you said the fall of America

  • @desireec2836

    @desireec2836

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zachattack1279 empires average 250 years. america is 244.

  • @maxseigner4803

    @maxseigner4803

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Spanish Mapping its not like the government is currently falling apart or anything

  • @justinnnnnn5676

    @justinnnnnn5676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Spanish Mapping Politically yes but the country is still very prosperous, and unlike rome Canada and Mexico aren't filled with bloodthirsty barbarians.

  • @agytamas42

    @agytamas42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justinnnnnn5676 Dont underestimate the canadian geese.

  • @NinhLyUK
    @NinhLyUK3 жыл бұрын

    American politics at its finest. Thanks CGP.

  • @completeepicness5070

    @completeepicness5070

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ninh Ly, didn’t expect to see you here.

  • @muhaiminhoquechowdhury963

    @muhaiminhoquechowdhury963

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @angusheath5321

    @angusheath5321

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@completeepicness5070 For a man that explains the rules of sport, it is not surprising that he has interest in the laws, or rules, of the American legal system.

  • @josepho3366

    @josepho3366

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep pretty much

  • @3seven5seven1nine9

    @3seven5seven1nine9

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ninh explains, the rules of the Senate

  • @conundrum60690
    @conundrum606902 жыл бұрын

    I'm kinda surprised noone ever bribed that one senator to call for a roll call. The senate would end up in recess and the president could force dozens of appointees that same day.

  • @adyantsharma5753
    @adyantsharma57532 жыл бұрын

    Learning from this video : 1. US is messed up 2. US is messed up 3. Shenanigans

  • @TimHoppen
    @TimHoppen3 жыл бұрын

    "I am the Senate" - Chancellor Palpatine, 19 BBY

  • @fretboy5028

    @fretboy5028

    3 жыл бұрын

    M. McConnell = Palpatine

  • @ChristofHarper

    @ChristofHarper

    3 жыл бұрын

    I keep expecting Nancy Pelosi to say that

  • @MrBassmann15

    @MrBassmann15

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Not yet." -Jedi Master Mace Windu, 19 BBY

  • @MrPopoCoalti

    @MrPopoCoalti

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrBassmann15 It's treason, then.

  • @hithere7626

    @hithere7626

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrPopoCoalti*Demonic screeching*

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius63 жыл бұрын

    People living in democratic countries: "Woah, all this stuff is too crazy, this would never happen!" Me, who grew up in Eastern Europe: "First time?"

  • @arrielradja5522

    @arrielradja5522

    3 жыл бұрын

    Noice

  • @legatlanius8259

    @legatlanius8259

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me who also is from eastern europe: Can't president just bribe one of the senators to say there is not enough senators in senate and break it all?

  • @KuK137

    @KuK137

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@legatlanius8259 It would need to be a pretty huge bribe because then every other senator would vote to remove the offender...

  • @Contra1828

    @Contra1828

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, what seems unbelievable to America is just "coming back to typical realpolitik power relations after an *unusually* long lucky streak with stable constitutional government and rule of law" to the rest of the world. Regression to the mean.

  • @ik120099

    @ik120099

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@legatlanius8259 Yes but no. The senator, in this case, can just break the news that somebody bribed him and that may be a case of impeachment.

  • @josephjackson1956
    @josephjackson19563 жыл бұрын

    Every time he said “shenanigans beget shenanigans” I thought the video would never end. :)

  • @CrniWuk
    @CrniWuk Жыл бұрын

    This really aged like fine wine.

  • @testable601

    @testable601

    Жыл бұрын

    Fax

  • @Qaptyl

    @Qaptyl

    Жыл бұрын

    i mean the depiction of the supreme court is still accurate so yeah it really did

  • @Sonaholic
    @Sonaholic3 жыл бұрын

    This entire channel is explaining all of the “if” and “if else” statements in America’s source code

  • @zyaicob

    @zyaicob

    2 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @null8036

    @null8036

    2 жыл бұрын

    America Law module source code to be exact

  • @cakeisyummy5755

    @cakeisyummy5755

    2 жыл бұрын

    And a bit of the UK's if and if elses.

  • @jaisonsimon

    @jaisonsimon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Python??

  • @kittyfangz5262

    @kittyfangz5262

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaisonsimon pretty sure python uses elif instead of else if

  • @presidentirinavladimirovna7054
    @presidentirinavladimirovna70543 жыл бұрын

    Imagine getting to take half a year off from your job, then only actually work once every 4 days for less than 30 seconds. How the hell is this allowed?

  • @ObeseYeti

    @ObeseYeti

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think those are two different things. The working once every 4 days is a part of the break

  • @CraftyF0X

    @CraftyF0X

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me tell yo ua secret. it is not politicians who makes things go around no matter how much they want you to belive it. I bet we wouldn't even notice if a good percentage of them would dissapear. Garbagemen, firefighters, emergency responders on the other hand..... so its only "natural" that we talk about politicians we pay them fortunes, we give them status and we even put them on the pages of our history books.

  • @hugofontes5708

    @hugofontes5708

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ObeseYeti actually they are different things - on break is a break, they aren't there. The 3 days recess + 20 second pro-forma is a technically-not-a-break. What OP is saying is _they are not mutually exclusive_ and they can take half an year worth of breaks and work 20 seconds a quarter of the rest of the days. It's like they could effectively work *20 seconds every other week* . That's less than 10 minutes of "work" a year. Which they can delegate among themselves and rotate. So, like... 40-ish sessions an year, I guess they might cut it down to like, 40 seconds a year or even less?

  • @abc68130

    @abc68130

    3 жыл бұрын

    You havr to spend almost all that "free time" either campaigning or fundraising though.

  • @Bloodlyshiva

    @Bloodlyshiva

    3 жыл бұрын

    The laws were made during times when it was really hard to get everyone together in one place at one time.

  • @worldtsunami9142
    @worldtsunami9142 Жыл бұрын

    Does that mean, someone could stay behind and ask for a roll call and force the Senate to come back from vacay?

  • @erikburzinski8248

    @erikburzinski8248

    Жыл бұрын

    yes they could and I would do it

  • @kimmiewise1044

    @kimmiewise1044

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they CAN but they probably get peer pressured from doing so with one senator talking about taking their kids on a trip or an elderly senator taking his wife to the hospital for a surgery or something. So likely it never happens.

  • @nicolasfurger1032
    @nicolasfurger1032 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else here after Roe was overturned?

  • @leviwillrich2637
    @leviwillrich26373 жыл бұрын

    "impressive rules-lawyering" and "shennanigans" are the same thing.

  • @TurntechGallows

    @TurntechGallows

    3 жыл бұрын

    You sound like a DM

  • @MPdude237

    @MPdude237

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, he said it that what is "impressive rules-lawyering" and "shennanigans", is a matter of opinion.

  • @xenongaming8804

    @xenongaming8804

    3 жыл бұрын

    This youtuber is too smart....he uploaded the video as soon as the the indian supreme court resulted today about Ayodhya....Good move dude👍

  • @puellanivis

    @puellanivis

    3 жыл бұрын

    All impressive rules-lawyering is shenanigans, but not all shenanigans are rules-lawyering. Therefore, they cannot be the same thing.

  • @TlalocTemporal

    @TlalocTemporal

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@puellanivis -- Counterpoint, all arguments about the difference between rules lawyering and shenanigans are already talking about rules lawyering, and are therefore also talking about shenanigans.

  • @ftayl5
    @ftayl53 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the branches of government actually cooperating to prioritise effectively governing the nation over personal and politic power gains.

  • @16m49x3

    @16m49x3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Might just be an accident seeing as he used the colors yellow and orange instead of specific parties

  • @cjeam9199

    @cjeam9199

    3 жыл бұрын

    NPC 2749 political power gains in the US boil down to one party trying to get more power over the other. It’s not an unreasonable position to say that the US’ Supreme Court should be representative of the political or philosophical opinion of the people of the nation as a whole, and thus politically balanced and central as a court.

  • @user-gh5jc9tx5r

    @user-gh5jc9tx5r

    3 жыл бұрын

    Looking at the house.

  • @mrbeefy1101

    @mrbeefy1101

    3 жыл бұрын

    cjeam no that is completely unreasonable. The ENTIRE POINT of life appointments is so that while the congress and by extension nations opinion may change THEIRS DONT unless there is a constitutional amendment

  • @NPC-bs3pm

    @NPC-bs3pm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cjeam9199 I don't believe the law is a "balance" as it is why there is no limits on how many justices the president can have in a year. The law should be interpreted as it is originally intended to be (then again can you trust one side to interpret that honestly 😆?)

  • @Aluminumsfoil
    @Aluminumsfoil Жыл бұрын

    Aged like a fine wine

  • @lampyshampy
    @lampyshampy3 жыл бұрын

    Things brings the concept of “checks and balances” to a whole new level.

  • @jacobshirley3457

    @jacobshirley3457

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least the founding fathers knew shenanigans were inevitable, even if they didn't know which ones.

  • @r3ked272
    @r3ked2723 жыл бұрын

    Every four days: "Say the line, senator!"

  • @VexChoccyMilk

    @VexChoccyMilk

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't have a cow, man.

  • @montypython5521

    @montypython5521

    3 жыл бұрын

    One senator should show up one time and ask for a roll call just to troll the rest of those Dbags

  • @r3ked272

    @r3ked272

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@montypython5521 The entire senate has agreed to this. That won't happen any time soon.

  • @montypython5521

    @montypython5521

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@r3ked272 I know, but I would love to see it happen

  • @david2869

    @david2869

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I AM the Senate!"

  • @Lucas-qx3fo
    @Lucas-qx3fo3 жыл бұрын

    And just when we needed him, he returned.

  • @lokbdasmf7866

    @lokbdasmf7866

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dude, he never left

  • @MuscarV2

    @MuscarV2

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was never gone... A month between videos is business as usual, quality over quantity. I wonder how idiots like you even find channels like this, you're not the market audience, it's like explaining chemistry to a rock.

  • @CuboidCat

    @CuboidCat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Guys chill

  • @kaizokujimbei143

    @kaizokujimbei143

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MuscarV2 Rocks have feelings too.

  • @Lucas-qx3fo

    @Lucas-qx3fo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MuscarV2 Chill man I know how he takes forever to make vids. I watch the QnAs. Been watching Grey for forever. It's just a KZread comment...

  • @mando9518
    @mando9518 Жыл бұрын

    this aged very welllll

  • @dr4kecl788

    @dr4kecl788

    Жыл бұрын

    wdym

  • @mando9518

    @mando9518

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dr4kecl788 The United States Supreme Court has made great strides towards abolishing freedom in this country

  • @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mando9518 Elaborate.

  • @matthewvreeke9872

    @matthewvreeke9872

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spaghettiisyummy.3623 they’re sad that the states get to decide whether or not someone can murder an unborn child

  • @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewvreeke9872 Oh, they *don't* like Texas!

  • @florisdamen5714
    @florisdamen5714 Жыл бұрын

    “Precedents aren’t laws.” True.

  • @guillermoelnino

    @guillermoelnino

    Жыл бұрын

    unfortunately activist judges make them defacto laws.

  • @lpclassic60
    @lpclassic603 жыл бұрын

    The image of a Supreme Court justice halfheartedly teleporting two opposing parties into the room over and over is just sending me

  • @elizabethpick6900

    @elizabethpick6900

    3 жыл бұрын

    She’s supposed to be the teacher i think

  • @kennethkho7165

    @kennethkho7165

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking for this comment

  • @aurorapaisley7453

    @aurorapaisley7453

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where

  • @edgaraldana3205

    @edgaraldana3205

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aurorapaisley7453 11:15

  • @fancymelon5127

    @fancymelon5127

    Жыл бұрын

    7:10

  • @AhrenBaderJarvis
    @AhrenBaderJarvis3 жыл бұрын

    Usually learning more makes me less stressed because I understand it better. I am decidedly more stressed right now.

  • @blackjack2526

    @blackjack2526

    3 жыл бұрын

    To paraphrase a certain raving chair-bound God-Skeleton: Just because it is right doesn't change the fact that it is unfathomably idiotic. True, my friend. Very true.

  • @videogyar2

    @videogyar2

    3 жыл бұрын

    The more I learn, the more I'm sure that nobody really knows what they're doing. Everyone is just going with the flow.

  • @BrenttFease

    @BrenttFease

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackjack2526 I wasn't expecting a TTS reference here. The Man-Emperor approves.

  • @blackjack2526

    @blackjack2526

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrenttFease Your Corpse-Emperor is weak. Much like your Primarchs!!! Iron Within, Iron Without.

  • @BrenttFease

    @BrenttFease

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackjack2526 oh shit, I'm used to being the heretic in these... **scrambles for notes** umm.... something something exterminatus?

  • @videoknight4461
    @videoknight4461 Жыл бұрын

    Watching this after June 2022 is wild

  • @jamesmillington4711
    @jamesmillington47112 жыл бұрын

    I love how the supreme court has the power to snap their fingers and get anybody to appear before the court.

  • @RowdyBoy82
    @RowdyBoy823 жыл бұрын

    "You wanna work all year round? Go right ahead." You mean like 85 % of the entire American working class. Oh, boo hoo.

  • @femsplainer

    @femsplainer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well to be fair, recess isn't exactly the same as free time, it's just that the Senate and House members get to go back to their districts and actually interact with their constituents. It's basically a way for them to continue being able to accurately represent the will of their constituents and get a handle on what's going on in their state/district. All of that is in theory though, as we all know that politicians tend to have their aides do most of the work while they shmooze with the wealthy elites. Still proper framing is important.

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@femsplainer It's the same in parliamentary democracies, to an outsider it looks like MP's take a _lot_ of time off, but of course they have community surgeries and similar to do back in their constituencies.

  • @daerdevvyl4314

    @daerdevvyl4314

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ralphie Raccoon Uh sorry. Did you say surgeries?

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daerdevvyl4314 Yes, the term does not have an exclusively medical use in the UK. It can mean an event where MP's are available to give advice to members of the public.

  • @daerdevvyl4314

    @daerdevvyl4314

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ralphie Raccoon Okay. Thanks for telling me. By the way, did you ever see a kids’ cartoon called The Raccoons? It aired on Canadian TV in about the 1990s. One of the main characters was Ralph Raccoon.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY3 жыл бұрын

    “Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.” ― Mark Twain

  • @damongwinn

    @damongwinn

    3 жыл бұрын

    This statement is BRILLIANT!!

  • @heroino89

    @heroino89

    3 жыл бұрын

    This quote can literally be found under EVERY major political video nowadays. Not a criticism, just an interesting indicator of the political climate we live in.

  • @Alexrider02

    @Alexrider02

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not actually Mark Twain, not sure who said it, but it's a fantastic quote nonetheless.

  • @jmwhiting

    @jmwhiting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Essentially, bring term limits to the senate and the house. The only issue is that the one who decides that is congress, and why would they limit THEIR power?

  • @zapperone7

    @zapperone7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Zansi This is a quote from John Wallner. Not Mark Twain.

  • @callmeobsequious
    @callmeobsequious2 жыл бұрын

    I love that the asterisk is represented by an "mm" or "hmm" in the audio.

  • @rho-starmkl4483
    @rho-starmkl4483 Жыл бұрын

    1:15 I’m surprised no President has ever gone full Caligula and put a horse in the Supreme Court.

  • @AnEnormousNerd

    @AnEnormousNerd

    Жыл бұрын

    Would need to pass Congress, so I guess you'd need a very charming horse.

  • @doctorcoke5072
    @doctorcoke50723 жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans" is probably the truest statement I've ever heard.

  • @golagiswatchingyou2966

    @golagiswatchingyou2966

    3 жыл бұрын

    or nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution

  • @minski76

    @minski76

    3 жыл бұрын

    I need that on a T-Shirt.

  • @falsehero2001

    @falsehero2001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brian Cox does not like this video.

  • @mmmk6322

    @mmmk6322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

  • @Sliverappl

    @Sliverappl

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will wear that T-Shirt everyday! pack me dozen please

  • @bogdangiusca5057
    @bogdangiusca50573 жыл бұрын

    So the whole system is basically a tom and Jerry episode.

  • @jodazague8333

    @jodazague8333

    3 жыл бұрын

    pretty much

  • @kilacamyrneh4624

    @kilacamyrneh4624

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is the president Tom or Jerry?

  • @GodwynDi

    @GodwynDi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kilacamyrneh4624 Depends on the day

  • @joseangelnunezcova8655

    @joseangelnunezcova8655

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kilacamyrneh4624 Both

  • @Ugly_German_Truths

    @Ugly_German_Truths

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what the Swiss say too... all the holes in their cheese, just an elaborate Tom and Jerry set-up!

  • @minuspi8372
    @minuspi8372 Жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans" I love this channel so much

  • @tommykarrick9130
    @tommykarrick91302 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t a single misaligned senator completely kneecap this whole pro forms session thing? Just show up and shout “I’d like to request a roll call!“

  • @TheGahta

    @TheGahta

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, but he would pick a fight with their own party because both play this game

  • @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheGahta Independents:

  • @TheGahta

    @TheGahta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Apparently they also have something holding them back vOv Though i have no idea if there even are some

  • @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    @spaghettiisyummy.3623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheGahta I think that around 3 seats are mandated to be help by independents. But i could be Confusing 2 different Political Systems. Anyways, What's holding independents back from attacking the 2 party System?

  • @TheGahta

    @TheGahta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Too much to write it here, im sure you find the answers if you look for them, looking as in not just asking random peoples to explain them to you

  • @freshherbs6366
    @freshherbs63663 жыл бұрын

    "The Senate will decide your fate". "Oh, but I AM the Senate".

  • @actuallyjustanapple

    @actuallyjustanapple

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha lol

  • @davidhong1934

    @davidhong1934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not. Yet.

  • @talhahhussain5603

    @talhahhussain5603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidhong1934 It's treason then.

  • @USSAnimeNCC-

    @USSAnimeNCC-

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love democracy

  • @SuperSMT

    @SuperSMT

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I AM the democratic party"

  • @isaaccervantesgarcia
    @isaaccervantesgarcia3 жыл бұрын

    I love how people still act like school-children even at the highest levels of a government.

  • @samuelzuleger5134

    @samuelzuleger5134

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you met any newly elected in the last 15 years? I know way too many older people who left government because the new generation is way to childish...from both parties. Then again, I also remember McCain-Feingold (Feingold was my Senator) and when David Obey (my Democrat Representative from Wisconsin) and Paul Ryan (a Republican from Wisconsin) could agree on things that would help the state of Wisconsin. But that time passed about 12 years ago.

  • @bananya6020

    @bananya6020

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's like that everywhere, in every place, not just govt. 90% of people doing your electrical work are probably thinking "wow, this person sucks at electrical safety, and I should tell them their house is going to burn, but I'm lazy so screw it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯", and the same for every other job your life relies on.

  • @TheJaguarthChannel

    @TheJaguarthChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    People are petty, the only difference is how much they try to hide behind decorum and pretend otherwise.

  • @AsbestosMuffins

    @AsbestosMuffins

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't. And I don't like how people reward them for it, and also blame the few working adults in the government for it

  • @downtofun

    @downtofun

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really? Cause I hate it quite a bit.

  • @AuroraIceFlame
    @AuroraIceFlame Жыл бұрын

    And what do you know, 2 years later the shenanigans are shenaniganing

  • @philippinemapper2342
    @philippinemapper2342 Жыл бұрын

    I think CGP Grey discussing internal US branch infighting is my favourite type of content from him

  • @MuaddibIsMe
    @MuaddibIsMe3 жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans" might be the most apt description of politics ever.

  • @NicholasYanes

    @NicholasYanes

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Shenanigans beget shenanigans" needs to be on a shirt

  • @johndanielson3777

    @johndanielson3777

    3 жыл бұрын

    American Politics 101: “Shenanigans begat Shenanigans”

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's shenanigans all the way down.

  • @tuseroni6085

    @tuseroni6085

    3 жыл бұрын

    shenanigan cascade

  • @MrHat.
    @MrHat.3 жыл бұрын

    4:37 there's a little green mistake monster in the bush by the tree

  • @matthewpaymer5590

    @matthewpaymer5590

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually that's Kentucky's senior senator Mitch McConnell

  • @tcxd1164

    @tcxd1164

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice catch!

  • @jedisalsohere

    @jedisalsohere

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a poem.

  • @yjasonn24

    @yjasonn24

    3 жыл бұрын

    WHAT

  • @GandWizard

    @GandWizard

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did you see that?!

  • @joey4341
    @joey4341 Жыл бұрын

    This might be more relevant in the coming months and years...

  • @lemon.c0rd

    @lemon.c0rd

    Жыл бұрын

    the nuclear options are looking rather tasty…

  • @TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN

    @TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN

    Жыл бұрын

    The government is devolving exponentially to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if any of these nuclear options did happen

  • @mewmew8932
    @mewmew89322 жыл бұрын

    The recess thing is like saying, "I'm going to take a break, right? Well, I'm then going to take a break, *on top of my break.*"

  • @martijnvanweele6204
    @martijnvanweele62043 жыл бұрын

    "This is madness!" "This is politics."

  • @timeijs12

    @timeijs12

    3 жыл бұрын

    *_"THIS IS AMERICA"_* 🇺🇸 🦅

  • @fretboy5028

    @fretboy5028

    3 жыл бұрын

    Both can be true.

  • @redpup6931

    @redpup6931

    3 жыл бұрын

    definition of american politics

  • @Newbmann

    @Newbmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    They mean the same thing Unlike war bird which could mean your anti or pro war Dont ask

  • @LordTelperion

    @LordTelperion

    3 жыл бұрын

    The affairs of the City.

  • @TheReaper569
    @TheReaper5693 жыл бұрын

    I love how the supreme court has god powers and can snap their fingers to teleport the president and the senate while looking bored at the shenanigans of mere mortals

  • @themaskedkid5266

    @themaskedkid5266

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, it *is* true to an extent. The supreme court has the final say in everything that crosses the desk, so in theory, they are the most powerful branch of government. The only limit on them is that someone has to bring a case to them, they can't just pick a law to interpret at will.

  • @mkostrub

    @mkostrub

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@themaskedkid5266 except Marbury v Madison basically established that they can strike down laws as soon as enacted. That said, it rarely seems that Supreme Court ever does this, but federal judges do it all the time

  • @themaskedkid5266

    @themaskedkid5266

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mkostrub Well, if that's the case, then truly the supreme court has the power to thanos snap the whole government if they wanted to

  • @Boomer2332

    @Boomer2332

    3 жыл бұрын

    TheMaskedKid yes but because of the checks and balances system the Supreme Court is not all-powerful. They can be brought down if both the President and Congress can agree. There’s this thing called the US constitution that can be changed with Amendments. While the Supreme Court reserves the right to interpret the constitution, if the government curves their power then there is little that they can do to stop it. Also, if for some crazy reason the Supreme Court went full tyrant then they could just impeach them/wait until they die and get new people in. The main point I’m making is while the SC is the most powerful of the branches, they aren’t all-powerful.

  • @riograndedosulball248

    @riograndedosulball248

    3 жыл бұрын

    Considering that the Brazilian supreme court is the only government branch that has power over the others, and is de facto dictating the country for some years now... Yeah. They are overpowered entities

  • @the1exnay
    @the1exnay3 жыл бұрын

    My first thought with the pro-forma session was "since that 1 senator is the majority of the senators there then couldn't they just make laws at will?" But then i realized that the assumption is that there are 51 senators there, so they'd need 26 votes.

  • @ruikeyap9355
    @ruikeyap93553 жыл бұрын

    this is honestly an incredible video. i’ve watched many of ur videos while being fully engaged and interested & through that rly learnt a lot! also, i’ve been wanting to learn more about american politics & find those vids especially interesting so please do make more!! thank you so much☺️👍🏻

  • @Cowslippoetry
    @Cowslippoetry3 жыл бұрын

    Grey's one of the best commentators who can talk politics without getting political.

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a rare ability that very few have mastered.

  • @MikePSU

    @MikePSU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most of the time. This video was fantastically done.

  • @menkaragamble8175

    @menkaragamble8175

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's wrong with being political? Let me guess, "both sides are bad"?

  • @Skeloperch

    @Skeloperch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@menkaragamble8175 Because you're going to alienate half of your audience. Imagine if your favorite content creator came out and started shoving Repubilcan politics into their videos, you'd be rightfully pissed. That's why we're pissed when Democrats do it. Or Labor and Conservative, or Liberal and Conservative, or BJP and... you get the idea.

  • @menkaragamble8175

    @menkaragamble8175

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Skeloperch Why does alienation matter? Do you say yes to everything and everyone so that you don't "offend" people? Is letting other people decide what you say "good"? And why can't you be pissed if your favorite content creator doesn't shove politics into their videos? "apolitical" is a political position after all.

  • @RobinTheBot
    @RobinTheBot3 жыл бұрын

    Remember when george Washington told us how our nation would die? Yeah he was right. It was the parties.

  • @Alic4444

    @Alic4444

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bingo. And it's not surprising it's the left being wimpy and disorganized while the right becomes more and more power hungry.

  • @Mrjdog304

    @Mrjdog304

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its crazy because everyone has become so deeply rooted in whatever party their apart of that if their apart of the same party as their congressmen we're gonna send back in the same Congress that while simultaneously forcing people to stay home couldn't get any legislation to help Americans during the pandemic. We watch them only give us 1200 dollars while not allowing Americans to work but if you ask a Congress member why they'll just point and blame the other party when they're all responsible.

  • @john_smith_john

    @john_smith_john

    3 жыл бұрын

    People love to bring this up but it was inevitable in the political system that this would happen.

  • @mattrocde

    @mattrocde

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, but I think it's also worth noting that a two party system is at least the most efficient of any party system - Were we to have 10 parties of 10% of the population each, it's not a lie to state that any one election will generally only receive 10-12% support for the outcome, which is a far cry from our ~50% satisfaction in a 2 party system. It's a shitshow, but not only is it an inevitable shitshow, it's at least the best of all the shitshows.

  • @NG-VQ37VHR

    @NG-VQ37VHR

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pffft, that old guy. He didn't even have Twitter back then. What did he know?🙄

  • @arcticfox2271
    @arcticfox2271 Жыл бұрын

    Ok but in theory could the president appoint themself as a Supreme Court justice?

  • @drorfrid
    @drorfrid Жыл бұрын

    Feels weird to come back here after Roe v. Wade

  • @Lily-ed8fl

    @Lily-ed8fl

    Жыл бұрын

    it might become very, very pressing now that a lot of people are very interested in impeachment hearings

  • @Lily-ed8fl

    @Lily-ed8fl

    Жыл бұрын

    oh, people already are! apparently someone lied under oath and AOC is suggesting that, if proven, it wouldn't TECHNICALLY be to make them more politically influenceable! It would just protect integrity! (and hopefully get abortions back, and stop the push on contraceptives and gay marriage bans)

  • @syphex2882

    @syphex2882

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah its very weird to come back to this

  • @adjoint_functor

    @adjoint_functor

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's to guessing that everyone below me is very angrily political

  • @cuppajoe2
    @cuppajoe23 жыл бұрын

    I love how the Supreme Court judges always looks so bored

  • @ootoot2152

    @ootoot2152

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seems like theyre tired of being the adults in every situation.

  • @connoissuer_of_class
    @connoissuer_of_class3 жыл бұрын

    Love the supreme justices ability to teleport people. Just looks like a really bored all powerful god.

  • @somemoron9306

    @somemoron9306

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure it’s fed up with dealing with idiotic mortals.

  • @foolmatrix

    @foolmatrix

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@somemoron9306 is that an intentional pun?

  • @johndanielson3777

    @johndanielson3777

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s because the Supreme Court are made up of the nine most boring wizards.

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    3 жыл бұрын

    The reason they serve for life is because it takes a lot of magical energy to give to the justices in order to be able to do that.

  • @zayevitz2382

    @zayevitz2382

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just uploaded season 1 episode 1 of my comedy cooking show enjoy

  • @weldin
    @weldin2 жыл бұрын

    Just getting this comment in here after some mega-shenanigans

  • @MrMediator24

    @MrMediator24

    Жыл бұрын

    Now it's ultra-mega-shenanigans

  • @317NEETz
    @317NEETz2 жыл бұрын

    Could literally make an anime about having someone with no background picked as a judge, could go many different ways

  • @Reluctantly_Adulting
    @Reluctantly_Adulting3 жыл бұрын

    I’m impressed that this was all facts, no spin, no partisan hackery, just facts. It’s an incredible breath of fresh air! Thank you CGP Grey. You’re the gift we don’t deserve but desperately need!

  • @nooneimportant2787

    @nooneimportant2787

    3 жыл бұрын

    There were a few partisan jabs made. I'm glad you didn't catch them.

  • @the_ultra_robot6884

    @the_ultra_robot6884

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nooneimportant2787 yeah but there were jabs at both sides kinda like SNL used to be.

  • @cruz1728

    @cruz1728

    3 жыл бұрын

    What nice is his party are yellow and orange too

  • @CasualNotice

    @CasualNotice

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was an artful avoidance.

  • @notmyrealname5473

    @notmyrealname5473

    3 жыл бұрын

    conservatives be like: waaah waaah people don't like us because we're evil and stupid waaaah!

  • @andrewmannson7543
    @andrewmannson75433 жыл бұрын

    Wednesday: *Capitol Building Shenanigans*

  • @stubblycuber2729

    @stubblycuber2729

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @DylanSharkVenom

    @DylanSharkVenom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benivinson3693 I mean, the people who stormed the Capitol were definitely the snowflakiest of snowflakes

  • @benivinson3693

    @benivinson3693

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah very much but chaz/chop is just really funny with the "black people only" areas. don't you just love segregation?!

  • @Julianna.Domina

    @Julianna.Domina

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benivinson3693 Except... Those didn't exist?

  • @deaddevil7

    @deaddevil7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Julianna.Domina google for the following terms: Seattle chaz segregation. It seems twitter suspended the original accounts that presented proof. I'm going to search for the videos.

  • @laurice8056
    @laurice8056 Жыл бұрын

    It’s 2022, and Shenanigans are at it again! 🤰🏾🤰🏼⚖️🤰🏻🤰🏽

  • @twbillionare9568

    @twbillionare9568

    Жыл бұрын

    Woo distopia

  • @8stormy5

    @8stormy5

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the land of the free, where partisan appointees can freely decide that you aren't.

  • @kimmiewise1044

    @kimmiewise1044

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah and it’s coming from people like you who don’t under how constitutional law works 🙄

  • @kimmiewise1044

    @kimmiewise1044

    Жыл бұрын

    @@8stormy5 “It’s the land of the free, where* people can vote for a local government that represents their values and beliefs on unborn life and those who disagree can move to places that agree with their own beliefs or convince their fellow voters of their point of view.” I fixed your misinformation :)

  • @Brent-jj6qi

    @Brent-jj6qi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kimmiewise1044 based

  • @jordanagbodo1712
    @jordanagbodo1712 Жыл бұрын

    funny that this is recommended to me right after the supreme court voted against abortion rights

  • @matthewvreeke9872

    @matthewvreeke9872

    Жыл бұрын

    no such thing as murder rights

  • @CuantumQ

    @CuantumQ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewvreeke9872 You can argue that self defense laws that permit you killing someone are murdering rights. Quite justified ones. Plus, the state has murdering rights via capital punishment. Though, focusing on other things. We have a right to murder lots of living beings. Some for food reasons (pigs), some for mercy (euthanasia), some for hygiene reasons (pest control), and some for personal safety or comfort (parasites). All despite the fact that these things have varying levels of consciousness and are just trying to survive. Pigs are more intelligent than babies. So, what if you have something growing inside you? With its own unique human DNA? It is taking up your nutrients, energy, and is causing discomfort. Should you.get rid of it? No? Why wouldn't you try to get rid of a tumor? Alright, ruling out cancer. Let's say an actual person is reliant on your body to keep them alive. Your nutrients go to them, you are uncomfortable, they will die if you take everything out. You have trouble going places. This person is quite literally using your body to survive. So.. Are you allowed to disconnect the tunes connecting you to the 32 year old man who attached you to him so that he can use your nutrients to not die? If you disconnect from him, he will die, is it alright to disconnect from him for your comfort despite the fact that he will die due to being disconnected from your.nutrients from your body? Alright, let's focus on the actual baby now. One: the baby isn't a person yet and won't be a person for a long time but let's ignore this and say babies are always people regardless of state of development. Let's say it is illegal to have an abortion since it's murder. Are you okay with the implications of that? The increased rates of death in pregnant woman, whether from their spouses as most pregnant women deaths are at the hands of their spouses or through the increased rates of botched at home abortions? Are you comfortable with telling a 13 year old girl that she has to carry the baby of the guy that raped her and have to constantly be reminded about that trauma? Because it isn't okay to murder an innocent baby just because the dad did something wrong, regardless of the age of the dad's victim. Are you comfortable with the fact that this will cause more pregnant people to die in hospital because they needed an emergency abortion procedure to not die but the doctor couldn't perform the procedure because the doctor was worried about being arrested if the court decides that the abortion wasn't necessary? Are you comfortable with making grieving expectant mothers be charged with murder because they had a miscarriage that appeared 'suspicious'? All of these things will happen and will only get worse and worse the more you limit abortion access

  • @hexagonist23

    @hexagonist23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CuantumQ Humans are different from other creatures. Unless the baby threatens your life, it should be absolutely illegal to murder them. It doesn't matter if pigs are more intelligent than babies, or they feel more pain. Humans are special. period. Humans are never tumors. It's OK to kill animals because it doesn't matter.

  • @chrisbeer5685

    @chrisbeer5685

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@hexagonist23 What about the example of beeing hooked up to another person?