I've had my Orbea Wild M11 for a couple of months now and have put over 700 kms on it. It's an amazing bike and floats over all the chunky stuff like butter, turns on a dime, and soars over the jumps like they weren't there. It's THE BEST bike I've ever owned.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

Great to hear!

@graysquirreltreeservice7299

18 күн бұрын

I agree such a ripper omg

Really appreciate your honest and well rounded reviews. In particular, I value how you evaluate bikes based on different rider types and their unique styles/interests. I also value comfort and ease of operating over having the fastest or hardest charging bike.

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Thank you very much! We appreciate you letting us know that as it’s been a major topic in our own debates and discussions on recommending products.

Would love to see this vs Crestline, they seem to be similar bikes

Totally agree this is the best bike I have ever tested 👌

@graysquirreltreeservice7299

18 күн бұрын

I own it absolutely a ripper turns like nothing I have ridden

Will you include the new rise lt in the comparison?

Would really like to see a highly specc'd Ally version of this bike get reviewed.

Such an epic bike, money spent well on where it counts and great finish and innovation. Nice choice on consumable components!

Would love to see the Orbea vs Yeti 160e. Both enduro race bikes. The Yeti 160E C series is just at your $10k cap

Frame lines look great

Got a 4th gen 9.8 Trek Rail. Absolutely love it.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

Good to hear!

I love my orbea wild, it’s amazing to ride it in either blue or very challenging double black trails

Also, on a side note, put your hands together for the guys testing out some awesome rain wear that will most likely return in a soon to be released review vid! 😅

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Hahaha…. Man, we really wish we didn’t need it, but glad we had it. That Fox rain jacket is sweet!

Hair Gel 10/10

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Murray’s Pomade! Original formula since 1926. 😂

Love the channel, this has really gotten me into the world of emtb. I’m a little concerned this year with picking the parts, feel like there will be some bias with this one, confirmation bias. Bike looks unbelievable! I appreciate el Jeffe says that the pure technical nature and raw performance of the bike may not be for everyone, I think for my aging bones >40 that sounds like me. I want the performance with a bias towards compliance.

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Whether it be food, bike frames or anything else, we try to remain open and mindful that people have different tastes. We believe that this bike is an incredible bike, but not without some downsides, which we thought we mentioned pretty thoroughly. It sounds like you picked up exactly on what those were and why. Stick around for the round table and hopefully you’ll see where it’s all going.

Cant wait to get mine and be a speed racer with arm pump! We'll see about the customer service. Working in customer service for over 10 years, it became apparent that there are ALOT of unreasonable humans on this earth. Every brand will have horror stories which makes it difficult to determine the overall quality of their customer service. Its more often the people with poor experiences that speak up and not those that had a good or decent experience. I guess I will find out (hopefully I never have to contact them). If your shock breaks and damages your frame, try going after Fox.. why would Orbea cover that under warranty.. makes no sense - it had nothing to do with their craftmanship. Fox should cover any damages caused by their defective product. Especially if you choose to use a shock that was not factory installed on the bike. (referring to a comment)

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

We hope that you enjoy the bike also! And have good luck with it.

@todddecourcy5786

19 күн бұрын

Orbea has the worst backup and customer service. I would never own another Orbea again

@myrideclips5033

18 күн бұрын

Yeah I’ve heard the support is garbage in North America

Its the fastest best turning bike i have ridden. Freaking flyer

Watching these videos has drawn me more and more into emtbs

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

They’re damn fun!

@topchoice1621

19 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf yeah they are I bet

Another good one 👍 Too bad Rob didn't seem to like it... 😄

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Yeah we had to twist his arm a bit.

Absolutely love mine, I went with the H10 version as I didn’t see a need for a carbon frame. Couple gripes, I’m on my 3rd motor cover as the one spec’d by Orbea is horribly brittle and cheap. My second gripe is that I can’t seem to get the headset to remain quiet. In a dry/dusty setting I’m lucky to get two rides in before the creaks set back in. Oh last one, check your bolts often and frequently, I’ve had more things come loose on this bike than any of my previous bikes combined. It’s truly an amazing machine that rewards you for riding it like you stole it!

@mikewelshmtb2556

2 күн бұрын

I've got the h10 Completely agree. Motor cover is rubbish, bout an Amygo's guard, bomb proof. Same with checking bolts, my rear axle works loose every couple of rides. Other than that, what a bike

In all the videos about this bike from your channel, you guys mention that you wouldn't necessarily recommend it for casual riders. Could you give me a few recommendations for a bike that might be more forgiving and better for the casual ride? Thank you

Wondering if the aluminum version would ride better/ more comfortable.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

Certainly possible! Maybe we'll ask if they'd send us one for a head to head test!

@DanTheMan_75

19 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf That would be awesome, I really don’t see the need to save a couple pounds in weight on full E-bike.

@jamesb3933

18 күн бұрын

I have the H10 and while I've not had the benefit of riding a carbon version im loving the ally. It is heavy but I like it like that for some reason

Please compare the Shuttle AM to this bike! It would be an awesome comparison for quality and feel in this price range.

great video

@TheLoamWolf

18 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Those Wilds ride awesome! A couple of gripes I had with Orbea was the paint. My 2022 flaked off way too easily ( no clear coat ). Orbea doesn’t offer touch up paint. The headset cable routing is an absolute fail for mechanics and maintenance. I’ve heard, not my experience, that Orbea is not good with warranties ( take that as hear say though ).. They are fast as hell though!

@KurtRWalker

18 күн бұрын

I have a Rise and have felt there was good support on warranty items

@bfranco1519

18 күн бұрын

Plenty of complaints online about them but glad you had a good experience.

I really want to see the Specialized KSL2 in the mix. I don’t understand why it never is

Is Bosch rattle very noticeable?

@LukasDePraga

19 күн бұрын

You mean Shimano.😅

@Stockfish1511

19 күн бұрын

I have gen 4 Trek rail that has Bosch CX line smart integrated system. No you dont. With downhill helmet you barely hear it on trail. Without helmet you hear it more, but barely. The motor gets noisier when you have lower gear and pedal extremely fast, once you change the gear up and pedaling gets harder it makes less sound. Kinda like a car when in a certain gear you reach the speed limit and motor is working its ass of, but once you up the gear sound goes down. Overall no. Had the bike for like a month and the motor has 0 problems. Noise is never a thing, you barely hear it and its gone of your mind after few rides. Your mind gets used to it and you pretty much forget about it. Also those gopros enhance the sound on videos. Its nowhere as noisy as on videos. I expected more noise before the bike was delivered and was pretty shocked how quiet it was on the first ride.The performance is though god like. I have trek slash 9.8 which is a top of the line bike, but that bosch motor on my rail 9.8 is just powerhouse. I never had so much fun on a bike than now. It cost alot of money, but honestly once you get that bosch motor bike going. You never go back again and the buying remorse is gone. For me buying remorse went away after 10 minutes on my bike. Once i experienced that power. Its something else. I always laughed at ebikes, but now im a believer. Ebikes went really far.

@msjj000

15 күн бұрын

I don’t think so

Well i bought one its true 👍🏻 rocket ship 🚀

@TheLoamWolf

17 күн бұрын

Awesome!! Haha stoked to hear you like it.

Not for 10K… canyon strive underdog is 4900 right now. Carbon and Bosch and plenty of cash space to upgrade

@rafakwiatkowski7907

17 күн бұрын

Yes and badly designed battery mounting interface that results in power cut-offs

@IHatePikeys

17 күн бұрын

@@rafakwiatkowski7907 have you ridden the CFR Underdog for yourself? or you just repeating what you hear?

Wait. You spec out the Wild but not the other bikes?

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

We were asked to by Orbea using their standard MyO program. Other companies either don’t offer it, or didn’t give us the option to.

No mullet?

"Its been a bit sticky... Its been hard to pull out some times and to get back in" 8:05

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

The struggle is real.

Needs a mullet option for us shorter riders

Well we already know who the winner is 😂

@gdosiu

19 күн бұрын

The win cost Orbea lot of $$$ 😂

@Rad_MTB_Rage

19 күн бұрын

@@gdosiu you are 100% correct 🤣

@Mockle07

19 күн бұрын

@@gdosiuHave either of you actually ridden one? They are outstanding to ride. At a test day I went to with about 10 manufacturers recently it was the standout bike for nearly everyone I spoke to. Not everything is a conspiracy 🤦🏼‍♂️😂 Edit: they have also won several other magazine style group tests around the world for two years…

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

NO brands paid us to say anything about their bikes, we can assure you of that. This bike rips, but like we say, it’s not for absolutely everyone.

@gdosiu

19 күн бұрын

@@Mockle07 I had the displeasure of owning a Rallon, which also won most tests. I wouldn't recommend such a poorly designed and built bike to anyone. Not to mention Orbea's customer service.

1 st

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

Good work!

Bro justifying why he spent so much on the bike. He’s in love with that bike for sure, what a great thing when you fall in love with a bike.

Nothings faster

Really needs a flip chip to have a mullet option. I think they lose a fair market share because of that

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

We like it as a 29er, but more option is always good!

@sarcritchlow

19 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf looks like your testers are either tall or tallish with long inseams and on large frames. A fair number of people even on large frames would chose a mullet. With a medium and small the majority of customers will want a mullet setup on an enduro bike. Given the choice very few wc dhers have chosen full 9er. You could argue ,given the weight and slower bike action especially at slower speeds ,an emtb has even more to gain having a mullet

@fe9523

19 күн бұрын

@@sarcritchlow mullet is unnecessary for this geo and suspension set up, learn a little bit more about it or try it… just making an statement based on a mullet from another brand that you might have doesn’t make it the best option for every single ebike in the world….

@klstrucker930419

19 күн бұрын

Same with the New rise lt

@sarcritchlow

19 күн бұрын

@@fe9523 haaa how would suspension benefit with different wheelsize? Fitting someone with shorter legs is always going to outweigh wheel size any any attributes from that wheelsize. Fit 1st. Mullet also makes any bike quicker into and out of turns because science. Extra weight of an emtb benefits from that. When Martin Maes turned his wild into a 200mm travel mullet dh bike did he change his suspension design? A flipchip allows the 27.5 but keeps the same geo. Thats a big part of what they do. But please tell us more

Lol tht "not a real mtb-er" t-shirt!

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

For the haters who think riders get offended when they say sweet moped or "that's not a real mountain bike." hahaha. life's short, have fun.

$10k. Inhouse wheels, aluminum.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

And worth every penny to the right rider.

@supersonicsimi2935

19 күн бұрын

The wheels might be the reason you felt it was pinging? I have an Occam which came with Orbea wheels and was harsh and pingy - I put Hunt enduro wide wheels on it and it completely transformed the ride.

Terrible after-sales service. I will never buy an Orbea again.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

We're sorry to hear that. Would you mind sharing what the issue/support you were looking for was? Also, was this with Orbea USA or do you live elsewhere?

@gdosiu

19 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Strut-mount issue. The same issues as specialized, kaneve, stumpjumer and orbea Rallon. My Fox DHX2 snapped and yoke smashed frame. Orbea did not honor the warranty. I am from Europe.

@TheLoamWolf

19 күн бұрын

That's certainly a bummer to hear, thank you for sharing. Hope you've found a new bike that suits you well.

@gdosiu

19 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf If you're interested in details, photos, you can search for the topic on the Pinkbike forum. "WARNING! Orbea Rallon, snapped shock, strut-mount issue, refused warranty"

@msjj000

15 күн бұрын

That sucks and a pity. I’ve had a good after sales experience. I would go back and keep asking.

Please learn how to review e bikes. Disappointing yall have not picked up on how to do that yet. Skip the first 15 seconds of the video and you would have no idea it was even an e bike.

@bfranco1519

19 күн бұрын

Enlighten us! What was the disconnect? You complain but offer no insight as to what was the problem or what can be improved. Your comment has no merit…

@equi

19 күн бұрын

Wut