Optimum Barrel Length for 22lr Rifles
Paul finds the optimum barrel length for 22lr rifles.
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People have asked about velocity differences in bolt action rifles. There's a video titled, ".22 rifle velocity bolt vs. semi" It is an excellent demonstration of the difference. I can't post a link If someone would, that will be very helpful.
@CT_Taylor
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4B2xJZwp9yZfJM.html by the youtuber 314299 Shooting Channel, 6 years ago?
@klinfield
Жыл бұрын
This one? kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4B2xJZwp9yZfJM.html
@frosty3693
Жыл бұрын
I found this one. The tester used a Stevens 87 that can fire semi auto or locked breech single shot. It had a 24" barrel to bad he didn't use the same ammo to add to this test. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4B2xJZwp9yZfJM.html
@jnljnl8485
Жыл бұрын
Figuring the extreme spread of the velocity on the rifles would be a better test as a barrel that's tighter will give more velocity than one that longer and looser.
@andrewshepersky8704
Жыл бұрын
Yes bolt action .22 rifle only..amazingly accurate
I always laugh a little when Paul refers to himself as "the average shooter" when he has a literal truckload of medals and awards for shooting better than other people. Gotta love that humility
@grben9959
Жыл бұрын
At the risk of being "that guy" his .22 offhand groups do always look just kind of normal to me. Now, a lot of shooters, myself included, fall off in ability quickly with the more theatrical calibers.
@Bakedea87
Жыл бұрын
That's how you know the whole world's in order. Lol
@ShortArmStrongArm
Жыл бұрын
Well, he’s old now, so…
@adamr9720
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I clearly have some catching up to do 😃
@frosty3693
Жыл бұрын
Average among his peers?
Paul Harrel is to the “average shooter” as a Green Beret is to the regular infantry. Makes me chuckle every time Paul claims to be “the average shooter”.
@akcarlos
Жыл бұрын
well at least you cant blame his lack of skill for differences.
@phil20_20
Жыл бұрын
Say... Well, you never saw Mancheski shoot! Too bad he couldn't keep his left foot from his right foot when he marched. 😆 Drill Sargeant tried and tried because he had to go up and get a marksmanship medal, but to no avail.
So a 16 inch 22lr barrel is ideal. Perfect. Thanks for all your work Paul!
I like that Paul refers to himself as "the average shooter" As a certified non-professionel I think it's safe to say that Paul is somewhat above the average shooter.
@AtlasJotun
Жыл бұрын
Nah, just your average shooter with a literal bucket of trophies and medals from shooting competitions... plus all sorts of distinctions for marksmanship from both the Army and Marines. Paul's just like us :D
@spurgear
Жыл бұрын
His body count is impressive
@Simon-talks
Жыл бұрын
Paul doesn't shoot a round, the round runs away from him
@stealmysunshine
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing he's an average shooter for a former marine and later soldier who is a combat infantryman who wins competitions? IE not average 🤣🤣
I like the chart holder. Hope you don't have to use the same system for a target holder.
@chrisgabbert658
Жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@tommygatch
Жыл бұрын
The new and improved meat target.
@ShastaBean
Жыл бұрын
Ha! I was reading through comments while listening to chrono firings - - wondering what might have been used as a holder. When I finally saw...Yes, I laughed. "Field-expedient"
@timothyvehrs9870
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly stable!
@darthkek1953
Жыл бұрын
@@tommygatch LOL!!!!!!!!!
Paul Harrell, the best firearms specialist on KZread. Edit: Thanks for the support and thumbs up guys. Truly one of the best KZread communities around.
@spurgear
Жыл бұрын
Did he shoot someone again
@nickamalfitano3613
Жыл бұрын
I'd go with Brandon Herrera, Demo Ranch, Hickock and Paul Harrell as a top 4 in no particular order as my favorite guntubers.
@marvinhagler4721
Жыл бұрын
@@nickamalfitano3613 EXACTLY
@frankcastle1183
Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt!
@FN_360
Жыл бұрын
And the best Poptarts specialist.
I've been here since around 20k subs. Paul has remained the same. His style, demeanor, and presentation are the same now as they were then. That is the biggest compliment I think I can give him. Keep on doing what you do the way you do it Paul. It's real, and it works.
@williamsporing1500
Жыл бұрын
He’s a national treasure!
@mattbrown5511
Жыл бұрын
"If it ain't broke, ..."
@tonyv8925
Жыл бұрын
I liked the episode where he was in the water splashing around...busted me up...love His humour.
@JayBe443
Жыл бұрын
He didnt get his start on YT. The man has been a real professional for a while now
@GreenMosin93
Жыл бұрын
I just realized that I subscribed just before he hit 100,000 subs, and how big a deal it seemed when he made the subsequent special. It's kind of strange that he hasn't gotten to 1 mil yet, it seemed like he was putting out a special every few months. He earned my sub by being honest, informative, and entertaining without being boring or long winded.
“…accuracy can be achieved by the average shooter.” And this is said with a straight face, as though Paul is an average shooter.
@DomoArigatoRobot0
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what a standard for me to try for if Paul is "the average shooter". Maybe a few reincarnation cycles will do it?
@Hjerte_Verke
Жыл бұрын
He's no Jerry Miculek so I'd have to say he's average, on camera, but then again he's got all those trophies...tough call
Paul Harrell referring to himself as "the average shooter" always cracks me up.
My takeaway - no matter what .22lr rifle you own, CCI MiniMag is a solid performer at a reasonable price point.
@pauljohnson9445
Жыл бұрын
Tested 40 gr CCI minimags through 3 rifles, along with 7 other types of ammo, and it was the most accurate in all 3. So that's what I pick up whenever out and about. Works well in the 22 conversion kit for a G19. One size fits all.
@seanoneil277
Жыл бұрын
I've read some folks saying their rifle didn't like MM as much as some other same-tier rounds. But that was on the internet. Norma-Tac .22lr is a solid performer, accuracy-wise, at its cost in my two .22lr rifles, both of which are 16" barrel. I don't chrono, so I can't speak to velocity steadiness. I wouldn't choose it for serious accuracy competition, but I have shot Rifleman scores multiple times with it at Appleseed shoots, using two different rifles. T/CR 22, and .22lr dedicated AR, both with Holosun 403 ACSS.
@shawnr771
Жыл бұрын
Minimags work for me. I buy off brand ammo for plinking.
@ericn7677
Жыл бұрын
CCI MM had always been my most consistent .22lr round. WWB being the worst thing I've ever tried to shoot out of a semi auto .22.
@davidcox3076
Жыл бұрын
Have a semi-auto pistol and rifle (Marlin 60). Both are finicky with ammo. MiniMags are slightly below the minimum velocity for the pistol. Stingers are more the recommended round (when I can find them). But it runs on MiniMags just fine. And the rifle gobbles them up and spits them out like butter. Eric N mentioned the Winchester White Box. Bought a couple when they were the only thing on the shelf. They wound up with my son's single-shot bolt action. Absolutely useless in my guns.
The PopTarts commercials always make me smile :D
I love how Paul thinks he's an 'average' shooter.
Paul Harrell's channel and Ian's Forgotten weapons channel are all you need
@grben9959
Жыл бұрын
no love for C&Rsenal?
@Zeph_
Жыл бұрын
@@grben9959 they are also great but Ian an Paul are mandatory
Best firearms content on the interwebs! And the humor is on point. The added plus is all the practical information we get to digest! Thanks!
@LTVoyager
Жыл бұрын
If there was such a thing as the interweb, Paul would be the best on it.
@cbigg81
Жыл бұрын
@@LTVoyager Hey, don't knock the one thing I get from our British friends. Lol
@Cityoftrees1911
Жыл бұрын
Its between Mr. Harrell and James from TFBtv lol JK🤣
@jermainerace4156
Жыл бұрын
Agreed: hands down the very best.
@StanlyTPT
8 ай бұрын
@@Cityoftrees1911 James is halfahomo (shortyshorts) & has a cat, but no children...
I literally just made a pop tart before I started the video. Definitely had a good laugh
A debate I've had at the club. Thanks Paul. Seems like this experiment would be more interesting from a .22 pistol.
@stevebucsh1681
Жыл бұрын
The other interesting case would be with subsonic ammo
@jacka55six60
Жыл бұрын
@@stevebucsh1681 My experience with subsonic rounds is that velocity variations between one round to the next have a greater impact to group size. Standard velocity deviations (1,200fps vs 1,250fps) at 40yds may slightly increase group size. Subsonic deviations (700fps vs 750fps) will significantly increase group size.
@shawnr771
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a velocity comparison between pistol barrels in 4 in and 6 in and then this chart. Just for information purposes.
@youtube.commentator
Жыл бұрын
@@___meph___4547 ...that would be supersonic....
@BB-1990
Жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 Lucky gunner labs has 2" vs 4" or close to it, tests in almost every caliber pistol.
Paul is the GOAT
The marlin model 60 22” bbl with marlin’s patented micro grooving is a formidable plinker.
@joshuagibson2520
Жыл бұрын
I love my Marlin 2000. Essentially a 60 action with a heavy barrel and micro groove. It's boringly accurate out to 100. I still get excited every time I get it out. I've got some high powered stuff as well, but 22lr is way more fun than should be allowed.
@recondrone6826
Жыл бұрын
the model 60 does have critical problem..the hammer will break a chuck off and then it will not hit the firing pin..had two model 60 rifles fail idenicaly after a couple thousand rounds!
@joshuagibson2520
Жыл бұрын
oh I was wrong in my comment. My 2000 is a modified 25 bolt action. Yes the 60 has weak points. The pinned barrel an mag tube are kinda delicate. I've seen a few easily ruined by old fellas taking a small fall in the woods.
@clutchcargo1239
Жыл бұрын
@@recondrone6826 That's just crappy luck. I've owned two, one Manufactured in 1972, the other in 1986. Thousands of rounds through both, zero mechanical failures of parts. My first gun was the 1972 version... Wish I still had that one. Bought the 1986 version for $60 in 1995. The owner thought it was a POS jamo-matic. It was barely used... I took it apart, cleaned/lubed it, and adjusted the ejector spring. It's been running like a charm ever since... One of my favorite plinkers.
@recondrone6826
Жыл бұрын
@@clutchcargo1239 could be but seems to be a problem from my perspective..first one was bought in the early 80's brand new at a Kmart for 29 or 39 bucks used it for years hunting and plinking then one day it stopped firing but I could hear the hammer drop thinking it was a worn out firing pin i took it apart and the hammer was broke..i eventually replaced the hammer and it works fine to this day but i don't send as many round down it like i did before..second one was bought second hand in good condition and eventually failed like the first one..I'm thinking rapid firing is what cause the failures..their still a great gun and will drive a tack..probably one of the most accurate semi auto 22LRF out there in my opinion..I could punch hole in a dime at 40 yards!
Paul is far better than an average shooter
I’m only here for the 10/22 equipped with peep sights, shimmed in with duct tape😎
A few decades ago I did a barrel length test in 22LR by starting with a long barrel bolt action rifle and cutting the barrel down and test firing it through a chronograph. I would fire a minimum or five shots at each barrel length. I started at 22 inches and finished at 1 inch. Between 16 and 20 inches the velocity was pretty constant. It was a little slower at 22 inches where it was about the same as the 14 inch barrel. Between 1 and 8 inches the velocity increase was rapid but seemed more constant between 8 and 16 inches. It was about 100 fps increase per inch between 1 and 8, and about 20 fps per inch between 10 and 16inches. I used Imperial High velocity ammunition that topped out at about 1240 fps.
@gregorychu1380
Жыл бұрын
That's pretty consistent with my experience. I chrono'd my 10 inch sbr and 16 inch rifle and average total fps difference was 50fps with HV ammo. Within 100 yards it doesn't make too much of a difference; It's only at longer ranges like 100-200 yards where hitting targets consistently becomes far easier with the 16 inch rifle than the SBR
@glennpearson3056
Жыл бұрын
[ATF has joined the chat]
@prjndigo
Жыл бұрын
This being largely a study related to the study that was done to determine what the length of a Rifle should be under US Law. .22lr was a "kids rifle" and general purpose enough that it was one of the standards chosen.
@Kaiserland111
Жыл бұрын
@@glennpearson3056 Statute of limitations
@tc6818
Жыл бұрын
@@glennpearson3056 ATF agent: "Hey Justice Department, what's the statue of limitations on an SBR violation?"
The crack of a .22lr brings so many memories for me. As a little kid, my dad used to take me woodchuck and rabbit hunting with his old 1957 Winchester model 77. I no longer have my dad and miss him so much. But he gave me that old rifle before he passed and at least I still have that old rifle and take it out now and then to hear that cracking sound and bring back those memories.
When I was a kid, my Dad got a beat-up Remington 514 included with a house he bought. The prior owner fed it rat-shot for educating stray dogs. I covered the stock with black friction tape and it continued the mission up in a couple different trees every night til we moved from there. When my sons came along, I passed this rifle down to my eldest when he turned five. My pet gunsmith and I cut the barrel to 16-1/8", miniaturized the stock, and replaced the issue el crappo sights with Remington centerfire rifle sights. We Parkerized the metal and I rubbed the wood with Tru-Oil, and he gave me a cracked extra stock which I repaired and refinished. Before we started cutting the barrel, we shot some standard velocity target .22s over his chronograph. The photo-screens were pretty new and he wanted to play with it. He shot some as he sawed off every inch, and then made the last cut on the lathe. IDR how long the barrel started out, but there wasn't a lot of difference when we got down between 20 and 16". "Not enough difference to make a difference". Anyhow I just replaced the bolt in that rifle for HIS son, so it's gone four generations now. It's getting actual rimfire target sights and maybe a chunk of rail for a red dot soon, and we're gonna get a plaque made for the stock with room for my grandson's descendants.
I'm happy to see none of the rear sights fell off any of the rifles Paul used in this vodeo!
The way Paul looks at the camera with a straight face and then points to himself and says “average shooter.“
I love how the video's closed captions feature indicates "applause" when Paul is firing @ 15:22.
As an early GenXer who grew up seeing those "Where a Man Belongs" Camel ads, I love the parodies!
I freaking love this channel.
Paul, I dig how droll and analytical your channel is. Thanks for your service to our country and your dedication to firearms and firearm knowledge. You kick ass.
"field expedient chart holder"
Paul is on his way to a million, he deserves it
@mrwayne5158
Жыл бұрын
Definitely does.
I'm getting to the age where putting the front sight farther away helps.
Paul, please launch a line of merchandise, or affiliate with the manufacturer to get a sales commission - I would love to own the jacket that you have. Something tells me that your other viewers might want that also (please like if you agree). With love from Canada! Cheers!
Does anyone else laugh when Paul says " average shooter" when referring to himself?
Ok. Let's end this argument. Diet Dr Pepper DOES NOT taste like regular Dr Pepper.
@TheOfficialCaseMade
5 ай бұрын
As far as diets go, it's pretty close.
@mattschmitt9924
5 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialCaseMade As far a vehicles go a bicycle is pretty close to a motorcycle, but nobody in their right mind will be fooled that your Huffy is a Harley even with a card in the spokes.
About 16 to 18" or so. Shorter and you won't max velocity and will have excessive muzzle report for the cartridge... plus run into legal hassles in some areas. Over 18" and you're likely killing velocity with most ammunition which may also have a detrimental effect on accuracy. Keep up the good work as always, Paul!
@tubeonline629
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@jarink1
Жыл бұрын
Higher velocity does not automatically increase accuracy, at least at typical 22LR ranges of 25-100m. *Consistency* of whatever velocity you are getting is far more important, especially since 22LR is notorious for large standard deviation of velocity.
@boingkster
Жыл бұрын
@@jarink1 very true. The destabilisation of a projectile slowing down in the barrel due to insufficient powder for barrel length generally reduces accuracy, too, which is what I'm referring to here. A shorter barrel in a given profile will be stiffer so there's that to consider as well. All being equal I'd take an 18" over a 22" in 22LR, but really we're splitting hairs pretty fine. Quoting the good Mr Harrell, if your rifle works for you then that's all you need.
@45calibermedic
Жыл бұрын
@@boingkster destabilizing in the barrel? Where can the bullet go but forward? It's so tightly fitted to the bore that the rifling is engraving a pattern on it. I've heard of destabilizing due to velocity change outside of the barrel. Can you explain?
Paul, only thing bad about your channel is there isn't enough videos released regularly.
@nucleargrizzly1776
Жыл бұрын
@JCA ELITE SCUBA Still not enough. When will cloning be perfected?
@Tr4wnet
Жыл бұрын
I just wish he did a collab with some of the other gun YTers
@scooter5940
Жыл бұрын
You know, I hear you, but be careful what you wish for. There are so many firearm channels that pump out video after video after video, and in most of them there are some pretty obvious quality and sometimes even credibility tradeoffs. Of course, there are a few notable exceptions. It would be a full-time job, I imagine, to put the amount of time and thought into these that Paul seems to, and put out a video once or twice a week. Or, worse, he'd have to become a corporate shill in the process to fund the larger volume. Instead, a new Harrell video is like an unexpected gift, and I am fine with that.
@Kodiac
Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more with this statement. He is criminally underrated.
@ShastaBean
Жыл бұрын
@@Tr4wnet He did a collab with ASP not too long ago...where they worked together to make John look like a complete tool (although he generally does that pretty well on his own).
Every time I'm looking for info on a topic and there's a Paul Harrell video in the results, that's the first one I click on. Thanks for everything, Paul.
Loving the new and improved, high tech chart holder.
Always keep the chronograph!
Great content, Paul! Keep it up. My experience with the accuracy of a .22lr has led me to believe that ammunition choice has a greater impact than barrel length and even scope vs iron sights. What I mean is, you need to shoot as many different types of ammo as you can, to see which one your rifle “likes.” Yes, there are some general statements like target ammo is normally better than the cheapest stuff you can find, but even then there are caveats. Much to my surprise and to the benefit of my wallet, my Savage bolt action shoots more accurately with CCI standard than any of the 7 “match” ammunitions I tried. “Keep up the Fire.”
@shawnr771
Жыл бұрын
I have a Marlin Glenfield Model 20 bolt action. When I was young all we had at the hardware store were Federal Lightnings. It shoots really well to about 100 yards. With CCI Minimags 150 used to be easy. I am not as good as I once was.
" Field Expedient Chart Holder " , so THATS what its called !! I missed it the first time!
Pop Tart full flavor.. In the green and white box.
The funniest thing about Pop-Tarts is the difference between the product presentation on the outside of the box (1970s version) and what you get inside the box (2022 shrinkflation version). I think you need to stack up three or for of today’s version to get the delicious nutrition of the original version. Interesting video. I would not have thought about a barrel being too long before.
@frankbettis4865
Жыл бұрын
The modern Pop Tarts suck. They were way thicker back in the 70s. And since no one has said it, the whole Paul Harrell Pop Tarts ad is based on the 70s Camel cigarette ad. Paul sorta looks like that guy. Don't believe me look it up.
@alphawolfgang173
Жыл бұрын
i remember actually liking poptarts when i was a kid in the 90s now theyre just gross because theres no filling in them.
@dbelex
Жыл бұрын
I remember when pop tarts didn't get lost in the toaster.....
@tonyv8925
Жыл бұрын
First choice is blueberry, second choice is strawberry. Do not like the cinnamon ones, tastes like cardboard to me.
Yeah, baby!
A pop tart intro!! Thank you Paul been missing those!
The only channel I'll sit through commercials for.
Dammit. Now I want poptarts. “Ma! Ma the poptarts!”
@gierhedd75
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, my lunch on the go today was pop tarts and of all things, a Dr. Pepper...
Very helpful information. There's only so much speed you're going to get after a point.
@0:07 Paul, the one reason that I most enjoy your channel, you are 110% not afraid to be you. Kudos sir and keep up the great work!
Brilliant as always. Watching from The Netherlands (West Europe) and anjoying.
Paul Harrell video on a Wednesday morning? Bonus!
My favorite.22 is a Remington model 34 with a long barrel. It’s really the site radius that makes it a tack driver. Oh, and I have had it for thirty years… that probably makes me more comfortable with it.
Thanks Paul. You're a legend.
Thanks brother!💌 Respect
Interesting findings. Testing with a chrono is good information. I use one when load developing my hunting loads for deviation purposes. I never focus much on velocity, but DO get excited when the velocity between one shot and the next starts to become larger. I have found when standard deviation decreases, accuracy improves. For 22LR, since I cannot reload it, I just find the ammo that works (most accurate) for my particular gun.
@mrvladimirputin9828
Жыл бұрын
well less standard deviation does land more consistent results, tahnks for shraing man
@rappmasterdugg6825
Жыл бұрын
@@mrvladimirputin9828 Da!
@BlackRabbit223
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you gotta avoid ammo that has velocities around the sound barrier, if a round starts super sonic and slows to sub sonic the round destabilizes and leads to inaccuracy. I like ammo that has velocities in the 1350-1450 range as it avoids this issue for most practical ranges. It does reduce your effective range to 120 instead of 150 though, this is due to the lighter bullet weights.
@victorwaddell6530
Жыл бұрын
I once met a man who bought a rim thickness gauge and sorted out his 22lr ammo with it . He was of the belief that consistent rim thickness was an important element of rimfire cartridge accuracy among other elements . I never found out how well that worked .
@ammoalamo6485
Жыл бұрын
I spent the better part of a year and a few thousand rounds looking for the most accurate and predictable .22lr that cost less than Wolf, SK, and/or the various Eley target rounds. I settled on a couple of rounds made in Mexico with Eley loadings, both of which are no longer available. The most accurate ammo in my tests were all rated on the box at 1200 fps or slower. I used OnTarget, a fired-target evaluation app for PC, and an Excel spreadsheet to identify Standard Deviation from the aim point and group center, and removed flyers from a group when their SD was way beyond average, because to me that identified true flyers better than looking at a target and tossing something out for subjective reasons.
Every time Paul refers to himself as the average shooter , it always brings a smile. oops someone posted that already . I'd like to see Paul shoot with 22plinkster or Kirsten Joy Weiss
"field expedient" damn near made me fall of my chair
“Calibre 22 long rifle” Add that to the blooper reel.
My 16” heavy barrel on a Ruger 10/22, is by far my favourite in 22lr! Thanks Paul, great video again!
Thanks for the clarification .. My 10/22 has the 18.5" barrel and I really hadn't thought too much on this topic. It's a comfortable rifle , shoots well and ... it does what it's suppose to do.
Loved your numbers “stand” today.
As always your videos go by so quickly. Thank you for your diligence and amusing video.
It would be interesting to compare velocities of 22LR rifles with the same barrel length, but of different design. Auto-loader vs bolt action vs lever action, and then just for fun throw in different barrel lengths of each as well. Great content, I was happy to see that when we had a function issue Paul didn't shoot the rifle at the end. Also a good thing the chart holder didn't mess up.
@ElationProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was kinda curious about that too. I'm guessing there would be a difference, but likewise only a small one.
I think this depends on what you are doing. My Stevens 84c with a 24 inch barrel with CCI quiets is dead silent and perfect for raccoons in the city limits. A shot spotter will pickup a 10/22 it does not pickup Stevens 84c.
@thereindeertherabbitthebat592
Жыл бұрын
I have a Stevens 87a with a 24in barrel. Love that old gun. I'll run quiets in bolt action mode & yeah, it sounds like you're running it with a can on. Lotta fun 👍
@chillios2222
Жыл бұрын
shot a raccoon square in the head with a 22 , it knocked him out cold , he then got away , or he was a great faker , knocked him on his face though
@rydplrs71
Жыл бұрын
Or you could just use a quality air rifle and not have to ignore pesky laws.
@XD1908
Жыл бұрын
@@rydplrs71 less noise then an air rifle.
@recoilrob324
Жыл бұрын
Years ago we played with 45 Colt rifle ammo that would be quiet out of a 20" Rossi Puma lever gun. I don't remember the exact load off the top of the head, but using just enough powder to completely burn in the barrel made it surprisingly quiet while still delivering a decent thump on the target with a 255 grain lead bullet. The 24" barreled rifles would be even better but both need to only use lubricated lead or they'll stick bullets and the difference between quiet and a stuck bullet is fairly slim...so accuracy in loading very important.
Thank you for this great test & analysis.
9:35 An organic reusable display holder...nice
I would like to see a comparison between action types (lever action, bolt action, semi-auto). The barrel length data was very interesting though. Thank you, Paul and crew. As always, excellence was achieved.
I got here early & wanted to leave a clever, witty comment but couldn't think of anything quick enough, so... yeah. I'll think of something & come back later.
Paul's videos are so informative, to the point and easy to understand. Really enjoyable tp watch!
On point, as usual. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise Paul. I always enjoy your videos.
Probably the best off-hand Rifleman I have ever seen in my 65 years on this planet.
@seanoneil277
Жыл бұрын
Growing up watching TV & movie depictions of offhand rifle shooting, one might think it's natural, it's easy, just point & pull trigger. Well it's easier than pistol, but to present, aim & fire repeatedly, with a locked-down presentation and a steady aim, and a proper direct gentle trigger pull -- that takes some work, folks. Some serious work. Most won't put in the time or the work. Mr. Harrell obviously has. It shows no matter what caliber rifle he's shooting in his videos.
@tommissouri4871
Жыл бұрын
@@seanoneil277 -- and the older you get, the more that hooded sight wobbles. 😄
@seanoneil277
Жыл бұрын
@@tommissouri4871 If your eyes let you see it w/o readers or Rx change, the wobble can be frustrating!
Absolutely perfect timing for this topic. I'm in the market for a new 22 LR rifle and this question has been on my mind. Thanks for selecting a good topic and, as usual, an excellent presentation.
@xb0xisbetter
Жыл бұрын
I literally just got my first .22 rifle yesterday, an old Browning BL-22 grade II with what's probably an equally old Bushmaster 4x scope. Plan to shoot it this weekend. I have a CZ 457 Varmint and scope coming. I remember C&Rsenal's Winchester 1897 video dropped within a few days of my having picked one up at a pawn shop too.
Always good information, thank you for sharing
Legend has it that Paul Harrell once gave one of his pop-tarts to a bi-plane pilot. That pilot then went on to land his plane on mars, on his way back from Jupiter.
I use a 24" BB on my 10/22 to slow my rounds down. Its a suppressed setup , with the longer barrel, I can run most Match and many standard(cheep) velocity rounds , SubSonic out of the barrel. Some times subsonic is harder to find, and in most cases the nice match is still cheaper then the sub
DDP tastes more like regular than any other soda, but it's taste IS different. Bigger question is, do Pop-Tarts taste more like Toast'ems or vice versa? Nice demo. If one was going to carry the 22 lr as a "truck gun" the shorter barrel would have the storage and deployment advantage, just as it would in thicker brush, or other narrow spaces.
@charlescox290
Жыл бұрын
Pop tarts, like a man.
@arthurchadwell9267
Жыл бұрын
Pop-tarts! Cinnamon Brown Sugar or the fudge-y ones.
Thank you for all your hard work and putting together quality content.
Explained the drag of the bullet very well! Thanks Paul!!
I'd like to see something like this only done with other calibers. With the large number of PCCs today I'd like to know if pistol calibers (like 9mm, 38sp, 44sp, 45acp, etc.) have any drag in rifles with longer barrels. Especially among the lever action "cowboy combo" group. You know, the people who carry a pistol and a rifle with the same ammo, because I am one of those people who believe in having two firearms that take the same ammo.
@jfal104
Жыл бұрын
Although very unscientific, Clint at Classic Firearms did a comparison on 9mm velocities with PCC's and found 7-8" being optimal for this caliber...I found that to be very useful. The CZ Scorpion was optimal with its barrel length...
@mattbrown5511
Жыл бұрын
I have a S&W 686-6 with a 4-inch barrel and a Henry with an 18-inch barrel and my go to combo. It works well for me. Your results may vary.
@jermainerace4156
Жыл бұрын
You ahve a very good point: pne problem with just adding barrel length to a pistol caliber rifle is that pistol caliber ammunition is usually filled with fast burning powder to make maximum pressure as soon as possible, so very much extra length might really be a drag.
Thanks Paul, another great video which confirmed my suspicions. Maybe someday you can do a video using subsonic .22 ammo with different barrel lengths.
@jacka55six60
Жыл бұрын
The problem I've encountered with subsonic ammo is the difference from one round to the next. 75fps difference from one round to the next at 1,200fps won't affect your group nearly as much as at 700fps.
@PassivePortfolios
Жыл бұрын
@@jacka55six60 Subsonic and standard velocity tend to be more accurate due to the transition from supersonic to subsonic with high velocity .22 ammo. This transition usually happens after 50 years.
Great work as usual. Thanks
As always, his presentations are on point. Great job Paul!
I recently bought a "used" LA322 Deluxe by Chiappa and it's really gotten me back into plinking. Lever-actions have always been attractive to me, and this LA322 is probably the smoothest I've ever fired and its accuracy is top-tier. I'm looking forward to rabbit hunting with it later this year, too. 👍
@theosprey7111
Жыл бұрын
May all your wabbits be wascawwy.
Interesting experiment Paul. Ballistics by the inch, did a lot of work on this also. I actually appreciate having too long a barrel for my cz 455, keeps the shots hearing safe without ear plugs.
@wowbagger3505
Жыл бұрын
BBI is my go to, their optimal length varies between 12 and 14 inches. This is consistent with highly accurate modern position rifles Anschutz, Feiwerkbau, etc. where minuta are important. To make them legal outside of the National Firearms Act and give you a longer sighting radius as they use aperture and globe sights a tube commonly called a bloop tube is installed to extend the barrel and mount the globe sight. A longer rifled barrel also gives you longer to flinch throwing off your shot.
I love your videos! You have no idea the information I glean from your expertise. Thank you for the content on your website.
Real eye opener. Thanks for the video. Regular Dr. Pepper is best.
I grew up with my Marlin 60 standard barrel length whatever it was they came with standard back in the 90’s but I recently purchased a Rossi RS22 in an 18 inch barrel and I’m very pleased with the accuracy and performance. Haven’t taken it out past 100 yards though or figured out drop.
Paul is the GOAT! Is there anything this guy doesn’t know about firearms and how to use them? Me thinks not!
@stsw4314
Жыл бұрын
He is the Godfather of guns! 👍
@Xmara01
Жыл бұрын
Underwater fullauto harpoon rifles.
@johnanderson3405
Жыл бұрын
@@Xmara01 😂
@Xmara01
Жыл бұрын
@@johnanderson3405 it's a thing.
@Xmara01
Жыл бұрын
@@johnanderson3405 www.imfdb.org/wiki/APS_Underwater_Assault_Rifle
Very useful. Thanks, Mr. Harrell.
Your videos never disappoint.!! Thank you
It's an amazing coincidence that I was just thinking about this lately, and what do you know, he makes a video on it!
Great and insightful evaluation, Paul. That said, I know that I feel more MANLY when I'm packin' a longer barrel, even if it IS just a 22LR.
Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this information. I find your information and presentation to be some of the most helpful and informative on the web.
This was good ! Thanks Paul
I’ve found my 16” 10/22 is as fast or faster than the 18” 10/22 I have.
Watching this I had a thought, what about noise? Is there a point in which a longer barrel would be quieter than a shorter one? In a centerfire round probably not enough difference to make a difference but maybe the intent of a 36 inch barrel wasn't so much a more powerful rifle but more barrel for the sound to dilute.
@romansivers
Жыл бұрын
I have a CZ 457 Jaguar with a 28(?) inch barrel. It is *considerably* quieter that 16-18 inch rifles. It is so quiet to the point that most of the time you don’t even need hearing protection if target practicing outdoors. I still wear mine as it is a good practice to do so, but strictly speaking it is comfortable to use 28(?) inch CZ457 without protection. Cheers!
@haagy13
Жыл бұрын
It absolutely makes a difference in rimfire and centerfire pistols, rifles, and shotguns.. This is even more noticeable when using suppressors.
@PBVader
Жыл бұрын
CCI quiet, cb short or aguila equivalents will put a smile on your face.
@HaleFire7
Жыл бұрын
Longer barrels will always be quieter. The sound pressure is correlated to the bore pressure at the moment the bullet departs from the barrel. Longer barrel = lower bore pressure at bullet exit. There are diminishing returns - there is a more substantial sound reduction between 12 and 18 inch vs 18 and 24 inch, for example.
@latigomorgan
Жыл бұрын
@@HaleFire7 Benelli used to sell an ultra long barrel for urban pest control that fit on the 12 gauge Nova model. I saw it demonstrated, and it was very quiet - no louder than a whisper. I think it was 6-8 ft. long.
Enjoyed the video. Happy Labor Day weekend to you and the crew!
I feel like this entire video was a metaphor, telling the internet to stop bickering and eat your damn vegetables.