Something to keep in mind for next season, bigger wheels have less rolling resistance, even an inch or two on circumference makes a huge difference so try upgrading the cart with those little casters and see the difference! As they say work smarter not harder! 😉👍

@iDeLaYeD_o

7 ай бұрын

I agree but looking at the amount of rust on those rails, they could do with some descaling.

Line the chute with HPDE sheet. Make radius to cradle the corners, flatten out the landing so they slide to a stop instead of hitting the bottom.

@susanturcotte3176

7 ай бұрын

I have been suggesting this same thing over several episodes now. Even standard galvanized sheet metal would work. Line the chutes with the metal, layering them as you would do on a roof with shingles.

@jessevennard2640

7 ай бұрын

I came here to say the same. Hdpe would be a big improvement to minimize friction and also move the bags further along.

@MikeinAtlanta

7 ай бұрын

This is good but HDPE is pricy. Something cheap like old vinyl flooring, with HDPE used as bumpers to smooth the corners.

@jonathanmartin172

7 ай бұрын

Purchased hpde the other day. It was $279 for a 4x8’ x 1/2” thick. Positive the really thin stuff is significantly less. Maybe once they crush all that ore it may be worth it. Not having to use the buoy method would save a lot of time

@kaveman9

7 ай бұрын

55gal plastic drums. Cut them in half top to bottom(or maybe even thirds)and cut off the tops and bottoms. Use them as 3' shingles and line the entire raise. If you can find the drums at $10 apiece you can do 60' of raise for a hundred. Cutting with a fine tooth blade in a skilsaw is easy and the entire load would fit on a single empty cart to bring it in from the portal.

The greatest impediments to moving the ore is the bags and all the carrying. It would be far more efficient to muck into an ore bin that can be rolled all the way to the chute, then dump the ore down the chute - either into another wheeled bin (preferable) or a pile where it could be shoveled into another bin. That bin should have track all the way out the mine entrance to a storage bin where the ore can be dumped until you want to fill your truck. You might have to do a bit of work to improve the chute and track runs, but any reduction in the need to manually lift ore will be well worthwhile.

@danmerillat

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely this. Small mine operators have jerry-rigged the craziest orecarts over the years and left them lying around abandoned mines. just a wood box on pivots with (optional) metal lining. size to what you're comfortable moving in the mine. Use bigger wheels and you can move heavier loads easier.

Bring that portable mill out there and get some actual ore carts inside the mine and build chutes that will dump directly into the bins and or carts to crush the ore and then process it right outside the portal. When the season is done drive the processing plant home and park it for next season.

Think waterslide at an amusement park. If you add a curved transition to the horizontal at the bottom, the bags will naturally decelerate. You could also elevate the end of that transition to make it easier to move them onto the cart.

@duncandomey8199

7 ай бұрын

Indeed, these two recommendations would greatly improve efficiency. Long term I think the bag method is probably not the solution (who am I to tell you, but just thinking out loud). A mine cart that can dump and let the raw material slide into the next cart, and the next one dump right into your truck would be sooo much more efficient. Handling each bag ten times is not efficient at all. Good luck, love your content.

@jedeye825

7 ай бұрын

👍

@magicone9327

7 ай бұрын

This idea is the answer, I hope he undertakes your plan!

@Mikkelltheimmortal

7 ай бұрын

That's a brilliant idea. They could even use actual playground slides and that might prevent the bags from splitting on the way down.

@TheGreatestJuJu

7 ай бұрын

Also, lining the chute with something like artificial turf in a few spots will slow the bags with friction. Or use packing tape around outside bag a couple times. Really anything other than that slow and tiring method of pulling that contraption back up every time. Work smarter not harder. Any time you can invest in better tracks, better carts, bags falling straight into cart, electric wench to pull the carts down the tracks, no bags at all just ore in carts into a dump truck etc.. will pay for itself.

Your carts need slightly larger wheels . By increasing the diameter only a couple of inches , they will be much easier to push . The smaller wheel has much more turning resistance . Make them as large as you can get away with . The larger wheels will also distribute the weight better upon the contact points on the tracks as well .

@Dave_9547

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the old mine cart wheels were much larger in diameter for just that reason. Of course they were moving about a ton of ore at a time.

Ideas here - definitely make the 550 your standard hauler. Way more capacity. Put 4 steel bulk containers in it, devise a chute to drop the bags in from the portal porch, moving the chute or truck once a container is full. Feel like bag stacking is a major part of your handling time and not really necessary at the end, you can put a bulk container by the mill with a forklift and run bags out of that just as well as a pallet. On the drop i think you could probably link a few of those bouys up and use a counterweight to drop more weight each time, but safely. Maybe add some poly strips to the big sweeping corners to make cart pushing easier. Love this series and appreciate the share, much respect! I think your friend would be really proud of what you're doing there.

line the chute with linoleum flooring, install shingle style, get remnants for free from a flooring guy. use roofing tacks or a hammer tacker. install a playground slide at the base of the transition, frame it up 2 ft from ground plane. 20ft long skid chute , bags will slide to a stop or a car tire to arrest the bag . one day of improvements, will save you days of buoy handling . Thx I love hard work, I can watch it all day long. Best miner content KZread!

I can't wait to see how much gold you get after processing

@davidmobley5984

7 ай бұрын

Yes wish they would tell us

@-r-495

7 ай бұрын

Let‘s guesstimate. 25g/metric ton

You guys are proof that you don't have to be a bit touched to be a miner; but it sure helps! Thanks for another great video.

Better idea: You have an exit portal not very far above the working face? A ropeway for ore bags could handle the terrain and I think they are commonly used in the norhwest in logging. Gets rid of all the winding through the mountain. You could take the rope way down to the working face and use the energy from the big drop outside to make the small lift inside the mine.

@MattAugoe

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking about the same thing… use the exit portal to get the much out. Some sort of tram system with high strength rope-or cable I know it’s a long way… but you have gravity on your side right into the truck.

Sorry for your loss Jason. ❤️

Awesome, thanks for taking me along on this adventure! Hard work always has its rewards!

I think the buoy is a great sled for the ore, my one suggestions in use much larger diameter pulleys, especially the one closest to your person pulling in the rope. It will make pulling SO much easier. Same with your casters, a larger diameter will make life mucho better.

@bradical2723

4 ай бұрын

Agreed on the caster diameter but I think they need to ditch the sand bags all together. Redesign the chute or just line it with sheet metal, make the carts on hinges so they dump into the chute and the chute empties right back into the next cart onto the lower level.

Jason think about a couple of eletric bike kits. Use a chain drive in the cart with heavy duty rubber side out casters. Even have it remotely controlled. With the right gearing it should help pull the carts the 500ft distance

You asked for a suggestion on the long slide. To slow the bags down you need a gate that is perpendicular (runs across) the width of the slide. Hinge the gate so that when a bag hits it it pushes it open. But, use a spring hinge. The force of the bag coming down will hit the gate to open it so it can proceed further. The spring hinge will absorb a lot of the forward energy of the bag. Put the gate just a yard or so above the landing area so the bag slows down and then drops softly in the landing area. You can also add gates along the length of the slide in multiple places if needed which will make is to the bags slow down along the any without developing too much forward energy.

I would think some poly sheets creating a non-abrasive slide, and then at the bottom of the chute you have to decrease the angle so they slow down a little and don't explode at the bottom, 1 at a time is a huge bottleneck

The mucker truckers, round 14 ... I think it is awesome to see what the old timers went through; I hope the new timers strike it rich beyond their wildest dreams ! R.I.P Lane ... till we meet in heaven! 😇 Thanks for the positive attitude, Chad and Harry

All I can say is your lucky to have had the crew from Mine Operator willing to help you out. Real labor cost serious money, work comp, unemployment etc. Guess ya saved a ton of money by "collabing" with some other KZreadrs. Smarter not harder I suppose...

I can appreciate all of your hard work @ 6 yrs. Old I was in old mining shafts in No. Idaho, that had no human entrance for 100 yrs. Plus. I went on to attend college and enter the mining industry. I was @ Sonora/Jamestown, CA. The very day an 86 lb. nugget of gold blocked and came down the conveyor belt. The old sixteen to one mine.

I catch myself smiling while I’m watching these videos. So much fun 🙏❤️

That was an elegant solution with the bouy. Also your team members have a great attitude!

After reading these comments , some people have great ideas! I like the idea of cart dumping into chute then landing into either hopper you can just pull lever to fill bags or another cart . Guess the easier you can make it the more you’re gonna get from it .

Take plastic corrugated pipe from top to bottom with a hatch where the bags may get caught . If you use smooth pipe take miners dumping carts and just fill carts with no bags and fill carts directly. Dump cart directly into containers on bed of truck with ability to lift off with front end loader. Best of luck.

I have an Idea that I think would work perfect. 18" PVC pipe. They make PVC for sewers, duct work.. The thickness would be up to you. Sewer pipe would work great. At the very bottom just add an extra 20 feet of pipe with the side facing up cut open. Just need it long enough so the bag loses its momentum. You are basically building a giant water slide. Keeping everything inside an enclosed area to avoid any bags jumping off the track. You would not need to slow the bags down at all if you have that run at the end. Just drop them in . leave the end of the cut pipe raised about 3 feet up so you can just slide the bag down to the cart. *Sorry for the loss of your friend down here on earth. He is just up finding the gold vein before you arrive.

@TheBlueMoo

7 ай бұрын

Would it be dumb to rig a sandbox full of sand at the bottom to catch the bags so they don't break?

@vicferrari9380

7 ай бұрын

Hey Jason Here's my take. Probably more detailed then needed. I'm not a miner but I have watched way WAY too many mine exploration videos. The use around 18" to 24" pvs sewer pipe is the basics of my thoughts. Do it like the old timers did with some modern materials throw in. They primarily all seem to have used the same system. Assumption made they did it that way because it worked. Blast it, muck it, dump it down a hole, pour it into a cart and roll it outside. Since you already have a open raise you need ore guide tubes. Lose the bags there killing you guy's bodies. Did those skinny little under fed miners 100 year ago bag the ore and lift each rock ten times? NO!😮. Spend this winter fabbing more rail and some dumping ore carts. So... Extend the rails to the face. Muck it into a cart, roll it to the raise where the hole in the net is and side dump it into a ore shoot (large dia pipe). Lose the intermediate landing stops . Make pvc pipe shoots all the way to the haulage way. One dumping to the next no hands on (may need some hoppers and deflectors). Cut extra windows in the pipe for access where troubles may occur. With the poor communication caused by the distance and other noise having a ore door at the haulage level of the ore shoot would be a good safety device. Dumping directly into another tilting ore cart. If you require it to be bagged, do it at the truck loading area. I believe this type of system although requiring a fair amount of rework and expense would hold down the manual labor. If you plan on doing extensive workings for many seasons I would chalk this years efforts up to hands on learning. Yea this is kind of long, but you asked for it 😂!

Line the chute with 1/16" LDPE sheet. Make the runout flatter at the bottom.

@TheMrJackpinesavage

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree. easy fix twice as fast and adjustable at bottom by leaving it long like a water slide

@keithwood6459

7 ай бұрын

That would reduce friction and speed the bags, but I think the corners of rocks poking through the bags, as well as well the grit and dirt, would probably wear through the HDPE, then it would cause problems/need to be replaced. Also, it would speed up the bags, which is part of the current problem.

@ricknelson1137

7 ай бұрын

@@keithwood6459 flatten the transitions.

Watching this made me think of the 60's era movie "The Great Escape". Could you setup waypoints with electric winches along your haulageway? Pull the cart from waypoint to waypoint with the winch. Pull it back when it's unloaded. A simple eyebolt on each end of the cart and quick clips on the ends of the cables. Tough to do around corners, but for the long strait runs it might save a bunch of labor...Or mount a battery powered winch on each end of the cart. Mount the cable end to a fixed spot in the tunnel and walk behind the cart controlling winch. Can't wait for next season!

You could get a pneumatic motor and use that to hoist the buoy back to the top. Then use the air resistance in the motor to control the speed when lowering the bags down. You may need to add a valve or two to direct the airflow and adjust pressure. It looks like you can get pre-made winches but that would be more expensive and you may not be able to go as fast.

Hey Jason! Pushing the karts on thoses rails is a lot of efforts. I suggest 2 things to improve the ride; the idea is to reduce friction. No need to be perfect, It will improve a lot with little efforts, then improve little with a lot of efforts ! 1°) clean them 1 time with a steel wire brush on a portable angle grinder (no need to be perfect or spend a lot of time, just knock the rust on the top of the rails) 2°) the rails will get dirty no matter what (debris, small rocks, mud, etc...), add a brush/groom in front of the karts to clean the top of the rails as they go (just to remove small rocks/debris on the top of the rails) 3°) bonus, roughly brush grease on the rails after the wire brush cleaning. Hope it helps, keep the hard work 😉😘

Add waist-high platforms at either end of the chute to load and catch the sacks. It'll save your backs and make it more efficient to load and unload the buoy

Forgot to say, Great fricking job Jason and Mine Operator! Your hard work makes my day...

Chute Solution: Jason, can you let the shoot fill up from the bottom to the top. Someone takes one off the bottom of the shoot, then someone adds one to the top of the shoot. That way the bags move down the shoot one bag length at a time. No inertia to break open the bags. You may have to steepen or put teflon sheets, flexible cutting board plastic, or aluminum sheeting to speed up some of the chute. I left some more suggestions in a reply below. Things like a work table so you don't have to lift the bags from ground level to the trolley. A wide lever to pry the bottom bag out if the bag weight stacked on top is too much. You could also make a semi circle cover for areas in the chute that are too steep or are problematic allowing bags to fall out of line. Miners know the best solution is the easiest. I love your channel. Here is $5 just because. Please keep up the great work!

@barthoving2053

7 ай бұрын

Interesting idea. The problem is it think is that the end is to steep at the moment for that work. But like others already pointed out if you can make the end gradually curve into a horizontal space, preferably even as a working table you can do it.

@joseph.d5187

7 ай бұрын

@@barthoving2053 It does not matter how steep it is at the end as long as they stack or do not fall out of the chute. A semi circle lid could remedy this if necessary. Think buckets cut in half arching over the top. You will have to let the bags that initially fill the shoot down easily. Once the chute is full you just pull the bottom one out. Maybe some type of wide lever might be needed to overcome the weight of the bags following in the chute but that is easily addressed. Then one comes out, and the rest slide down one spot to take its place. A working table would be nice so they would not have to lift the bags from ground level up unto the cart. Slowly rolly, easy peasy.

@mbmmllc

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the super thanks and the suggestion!

@joseph.d5187

7 ай бұрын

@@mbmmllc Thank you so much for making the best KZread channel! I have no idea how I stumbled upon you (maybe thank the Almighty algorithm?), but I am so glad I did. I try to tell everyone who may be interested about it. May the gold dust stick to your boots! 💰

@cannabearr

6 ай бұрын

​@@mbmmllcvertical chute with angled baffles alternating every few feet, to maintain fall speed. a single screw on middle of each side of the baffles would allow for initial adjustments.

I should record my "work grind" for a few days so Jason & the guys can kick back and watch me work my butt off... This series is awesome!!!

EXCELLENT SERIES! I can't stop watching. Efficiency ideas since you asked: 1) ORE: Ditch the bags and dump ore down the chutes right into another ore cart, using smooth pipe as others have said. You lift the ore once instead of 10 times. 2) Tracks: Take an angle grinder up and clean up the rails at the stope for easier rolling. On the 2x4 track corners that are sticking, maybe a router radius would help. 3) Headroom. Take a couple days and blast off those big headbanger rocks that protrude into the travel paths so your miners can move faster standing more upright. 4) Lighting. They make nice 200' strings of LED worklights that use hardly no power. You can have a solar power bank and/or a little generator sitting outside while you're working. This is for speed and for safety.

That's a helluva lot of physical work. Glad to see plenty of good suggestions in the comments that could possibly be implemented next year.

There is a reason the old timers used slick plates, ore carts that dump, and ore chutes with gates on them.

To all the friends we have all lost. We think of you often and miss the chance to share our wins and our mistakes. Much love

22:48 As a Millwright, I have installed and serviced millions of feet of conveyors of ALL types. It's a fairly simple matter to setup narrow belt variable speed conveyors to move those bags out of the mine. Figure just ball park $70 to $100 a foot maybe half that if you scrounge used stuff. Put a drive motor every 10 to 20 feet and a BIG generator!!

Using a hand held grinder on the top of those old rails will make moving the carts a lot easier.

9:52 Attach a second rope to the bouy that goes just above the work area and then down a side area with a counterweight to pull the empty bucket back up.

@Michael-rg7mx

7 ай бұрын

Ditch the bags. Get some belts from the shop. Load directly into a dump truck.

@ZacLowing

7 ай бұрын

@@Michael-rg7mx Before it gets snowed in? They need a quick fix

@mattr3238

7 ай бұрын

agreed

Jason, you are so blessed with a very rich mine. Not only that, but you are operating as safe as you can with the challenges that can change quickly. My hat is off to you and your mentor, Lane. I'm so sorry you lost a close friend. I can tell that you really appreciated the knowledge passed along from him. He sounded like an incredible person, just like you. I like the idea of using the buoy bag for moving the ore from higher up. You mentioned the twists and turns in the chute and the problems associated with it. The control of the ore bag down the chute is the main problem it seems. If you ever want to try my suggestions to line the chutes with galvanized sheet metal, it will stop a lot of wear and tear on the bags making them reusable. However, controlling the speed of descent is a huge challenge as the bags will slide faster on a metal lined chute. Furthermore, you must also consider the safety issues that come with the long rope on the buoy. As shown, if any length of the rope becomes entangled around a foot or ankle, there will be a potentially serious medical situation located far away from help. Also to be taken into account is the amount of time you're spending on putting the ore in the buoy, sliding it down, taking it out, pulling the buoy up... You get my point. Think about how you can build something better than the buoy, to move your ore in that leg of the mine. It can be done to maximize time, money and safety. I have faith in you. As far as getting from the blacksmith's shop on the truck bed, build a small shute that can be moved up out of the way or to the side. Extend it over the bed of the truck. You could hand slide one or two bags across it with minimal effort and drop them onto the pallets in the truck. This would speed up the process and save your back by not lifting/toting them as much. Kind of like an assembly line.. One person puts the ore on the 'chute' and slides it to the second. That person makes sure that the ore doesn't go too fast, but keeps moving. The third person is in the truck bed to make sure the ore is stacked safely. You could also trade out positions so that one person doesn't get worn out. Just an idea. Thank you so very much, Jason! You are a remarkable miner and have the creative skill to solve problems! Sharing your mind with us is very appreciated! Blessings from Alabama ❤️

Thanks for living the dream for the rest of us Jason! Someday I'll have my own claim.

Can't wait to see how much GOLD you got out of this season. It was cool to see Mine operator working with you. Realy enjoy your vidios

For your ore cars: consider using a cable system with winches, cable and cable guides. You might be able to use bigger ore cars.

@iDeLaYeD_o

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same but with a cable and a harness for the front so 2 people can move a larger load on 1 cart but for the metal rail I can see the winch idea working or have multiple carts that can easily attach/detach to each other so the winch doesn't need to pull so far, basically having a train

The two guys doing the hard work have an awesome demeanor. I'd love to work in this work environment! Haha

Also Jason ever been to the dry cleaners? What if you used a system similar to what they employ with a conveyor belt running along the mine roof. Hooks spaced far apart so no excessive load and possibly using steel wire turned by a motor. But theoretically you could have people loading bags directly from your stope and the conveyor could terminate directly in the loading area.

A verticle paddle wheel where the paddles hold the ore bags on the way down and collapse on the way up to save space. Multiple dc motors and Libatts for power to partially automate the carts, especially that 550 ft run (maybe add rc type control so no one has to walk it... depends on budget and pain levels 😂 I would definitely automate whatever you can to reduce the repetitive walks, climbs and lifting... conveyor belt to bring raw materials to the chute then bag as it falls is another option. Good luck!

You are looking for something like those auto-retracting hose reels. With a cable attached to a strong coil spring (clock spring) in the reel, the bags would slow down progressively until they reach the bottom, due too the coil compressing inside the reel, and after unhooking the bag the cable will retract automatically to receive the next bag above.

I enjoy watching what you guys do, keep up the good work. Bigger wheels on your ore carts would definitely help 😁

Also, at the end, you should be unloading your bags from the track onto the pallet they will sit on in the truck. What you need is a lifter that can then move the loaded pallet down onto the truck. You won't be able to do that by hand, but you might be able to do it by pushing a few buttons or moving a few levers. I would try an overhead beam of some kind that extends out and then over to where the truck is parked. Keep the beam level. The beam has to be strong enough to support your loads, and transport them along its length. You could even use a piece of metal rail over a wooden beam, if you had to. Just over-engineer it, so that it can handle way more than you think it will ever have to. Then you can figure out a mechanical way to drive the lifted pallet along the rail. You could be drinking a beer and doing it, as a way of doing a victory dance.

Using a bag buoy in a mining operation is peak Washington vibe. Love it.

My favorite playlist on YT right now.

Handling ore bags is just like firewood, it’s a lot of work. Nice job gentlemen!

Side boards on the truck, stakes out. Big heavy canvas tarp inside the bed sides on the 550, toss the bags off the platform into the truck and drag the bags all out when you get to the mill

Great videos! Make a small portable slide for the final load of the truck. Maybe even an old pool fiberglass slide that has the turn that would work? Or portable slide ramp and put the support poles in hole supports on the deck etc.

@mattr3238

7 ай бұрын

agreed

If loading with bags then sending down, use a loop of line such that one end will have the buoy thingy and the other a counter weight. That will help lift the empty buoy back up. Cylindrical rollers above the chute arranged in a “V” will guide rope back up with fewer hangups.

@susanturcotte3176

7 ай бұрын

Bill, that's a great idea to ease the weight of the ore in the buoy And then getting it back up the chute to be filled again.

@bramdegroot9022

7 ай бұрын

you would wanne have a bowe/dropfender at each end of the robe so you can drop one wit a bag and get the otherone back up from the weight of the one you drop. safes you energy

@Scott_Diverscott

7 ай бұрын

or another buoy at the other end, if they can pass each other, in the chute.

@ryanfriars545

7 ай бұрын

Two buoys if possible, with a braking system. Load one at the top and unload the lower one. They’re would be no lifting or effort really needed, other than loading and unloading the buoys.

Wouldn't there be less repeative handling if you drilled & blasted from the opposite end of the drift you just started? Remember, the more you let the ore drop & fall against itself, the less you have to crush & mill. Think enclosed chutes & collection boxes. I remember a 1/4 mi. chute at the Cochise Stronghold of Arizona that dropped 600-800 ft.

Try rubber flaps alternating down the chute so they slow the bag before it hits the bottom. Old tires may work, if you cut the side wall and leave the tread at the end you have a easy attachment point.

From the blacksmiths area to the truck weld a frame together that's overhead you can attach it to the rock and come out the front of the opening to right over your truck bed put a wheel system on it with a cable that hangs down with a basket one person load the basket inside the blacksmith area and then they can give it a good push with another guy on the truck bed to catch the basket and obviously stack it in the truck. Put a tow back line on it so the guy inside can pull back to himself, would save all the walking up and down carrying all the bags.

i thought you would have done this by now: in the chute put two buoys on either end of the rope, the loaded one will make the empty one come up by itself. much faster, but there are risks of tangling the whole thing. also pad the bottom of the buoys to dissipate the energy.

@habbyguys

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@meantimppa320

7 ай бұрын

Yep, this was also my thought. Pulling back from rope takes time and strenght alot compared to one or 2 tangle solving

@TacoMaster3211

7 ай бұрын

there is not enough room in the chute to have the two buoys pass each other.

@tenns

7 ай бұрын

@@TacoMaster3211the heavier one would likely bump the empty one out of the way was my thinking, but you might be right.

Love the series thanks for the great content, sorry for your loss btw. Get a stronger rope make 5 + knots, space them out, have buoy on ever knot and let 5+ down in a row. For the carts i would use a system out of snatch block pulley and rope where you just have to handle the rope per hand or with a Winch, ofc you guys need to improve the tracks and the shoot, but that would make your guys life way easier in my opinion.

You guys remind me of the little Engine the Could. Getting the job done. This makes me happy 😊

Build 2 ore chutes/bins for transferring levels. Upgrade your carts to bring loose material with wheelbarrow tub Put a trailer with a jaw crusher under the "deck" at the entrance of the blacksmith shop and bag the ore off the trailer and on to the truck off to the hammer mill.

@Jason @mbmmllc - your buoy idea is fun, but it’s still inefficient in terms of time and energy pulling it back up, so I have two different options which can be used in combination. Solution 1 - Simply extend the end of the chute with a couple lower angle sections and the final being parallel to the ground. (Think a water slide transitioning into the pool of water at the end or how a bowling ball slows into the rack). Solution 2 - Construct some archways over your chute and hang thick rubber (think industrial mud flaps), each flap will slow the bag of material but flex out of the way allowing it to pass. If you require more speed reduction, you can just add a mass on the backside (think slapping water versus moving your hand through it slowly).

@mattr3238

7 ай бұрын

agreed🙂

Outstanding vid. Mining is good old fashioned hard work. Watching you guys get it done is a blast. We get to learn things that many of us will never be able to do. Thank you gents.

I suggest a 6 inches diameter pipe to sludge your rocks. A basket will catch at the bottom bigger solids. An screen below it and sluice the sand for some gold on a carpet. The bags case was also a good solution to shut out the ores !

You need some ironwork, a simple post crane and pulley so you can hoist a bag, and swing it over the truck and drop it onto the bed. The details is how to grasp and release the bag. Best of luck, Jason.

Loving these videos. So informative and you guys did so much hard work. Hope it really pays off for you guys in the end. Can't wait for the next one 😃👍🇨🇦

Such an awesome documentation. The hard work will pay off for sure.

At the end of the chute, you could use more and bigger tyres. Don't lay them flat on the ground but put them in upside position as you would roll them up the chute. Put a rope or two through the tyres to fix them in position. Pull them down to the ground so that the can give way, at the impact. Easy solution and much better dampening as the bags are stopped over a longer distance than in your solution. Thanks for your videos and good luck from Switzerland!

Hard work brings riches! So getur Dun!!!!!

This is a great venture Jason , hope it keeps you as excited and happy long into your future years sir . ✌️

I got my bag yesterday, thanks Jason.

RIP to your friend! Great work guys

Big Thanks, As we can hear the casters riding on dirty rails, need to clean the rails by adding to the cart, stiff bristles or soft towels to remove all dirt along the railing.

I apologize, this will probably be a little long winded and it may not work the way I see it in my head. Instead of mucking into sand bags at the working face, I would attach wheel barrows without the legs or wheel to the carts using the Adel as the attachment point so that it can still dump. Run the track to the chute so that you can dump the ore down the chute. Line the track up at the bottom of the chute so that the cart below can catch it was it comes down. Wait to bag it until you're at the portal of the mine. Sorry to hear about your friend.

Amazing work being put into that mine wow. Can't wait to see how much gold you get out of those bags.

Get some steel tubing, a welder and a tubing bender. Make yourself a sandbag slide, use gravity to pull down the ore. Think of it like a spiral staircase. I'll even draw you up a blueprint of the design that I believe would meet your needs.

@mattr3238

7 ай бұрын

agreed like a mountain trolly

Sorry to hear about your friend. I’m glad you guys are doing something that he would’ve wanted you to do in his honor.

👍👏 top effort guys.. I'm excited to see some of the slabs

Shute ideas: Fabric or carpet chunks to scrub speed in fast spots? Gymnastics mats on the walls in the twisty bits? This is definitely your biggest bottleneck, as long as it takes 2 people to do this operation it will be hurting efficiency. Love the progress!

I cant wait to see you process that ore. LETS GO!!!

Install a plate with springs in the 4 sides with a rail to keep it in place, to slow down the fall from it. Another way is too install a trash shut, like the ones they use in construction buildings. To keep the bags from tearing apart. I have lots of ideas.

Love this series! Can't wait for the next videos!

Improving ore bag handling: Consider an overlying set of boards on the last section, perhaps earlier too, weighed down to effectively squeeze the bags and slow their decent. Overlying board(s) would not be parallel to chute, rather wide at top and held narrow at the bottom. Set weight on overlying boards to slow or stop the bags. For the latter rig a pope to pull the overlying boards up to release the bags. A wider cart with larger casters with a tapered rail contact. Much easier to negotiate turns. Stay tuned for more unsolicited ideas. While I’m not a Doctor, I am a geologist.

Hi Jason, I watch your show and love what your doing in your new mine. I spent 35 years underground mining. We used to use an "air tugger" {stationary tugger} with attached cable to move heavy equipment off the cage and pull equipment up the chutes. This might help move all your ore with less back work. You could increase the size of the carts to hold more bags.

Just build your chute with a less abrasive material for starters, or just staple in some thick plactic sheeting if you dont want to replace the whole thing, then level the descent at the bottom to slow the bags down a bit and like someone else said raise the end of the shoot so its at the same height as the cart... that being said, and im sure youre already thinking about this, if you had some carts that pivot up and dump into a chute, and that chute empty right back into another cart, that would be the way to go. Cut the sands bags out of the equation all together Awesome stuff guys, keep up the hard work and can't WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON!

Instead of bagging, how about dump carts and ore shutes, and an ore bin at the bottom? Really enjoying your development of your new, old mine. Can't wait to see the values when you process the ore!

@iDeLaYeD_o

7 ай бұрын

Short answer to why this can't happen anytime in the next season, that would cost too much money.

How did the previous mine operator blast and get all those huge rocks lining along the tracks? But, you end up with tiny stuff. Will you be making larger rocks soon?

@alistairclark6814

7 ай бұрын

I think those big chunks are just host rock and it breaks up bigger and the quarts vein shatters up smaller. I am guessing that because those big chunks were left behind and have no value while the small chunks of gold bearing quarts are always removed.And Jason has just been blasting quarts vein.

@Michael-rg7mx

7 ай бұрын

He drills 5 times too many holes. Packed with enough for a 12 foot bit but only in a 2 foot hole.

@Oldmane-420

7 ай бұрын

The more powder you use the finer the muck produced. The large rocks you see are the host rock they had to remove to make the shaft large enough to work in. Jason spoke of doing the same thing to achieve a taller working height to the mine.

Hey again Jason, had another thought to move ore along the flat parts. Watch the classified ads for electric mobility scooters,strip out the drive and steering and install them in a custom built cart, designed to accommodate bagged muck or loose muck. Line the floor with lumber instead of tracks, than drive the cart to next offload

Cheap easy bush-fix, attach rubber mats on top of the shoots at intervals. Slows down the bags falling. Add some brush head to the shoot if there is to mush spacing. Good luck!

Labour saving idea: install a motor and winch at the end of each section of rail and use that to pull the cart. Getting around curves might be an issue though. If you have a p.t.o. whinch on your truck you might be able to flange something up for that last long section wit that.

Thanks Jason for the video sorry for the friend that you lost friend's are the most important thing that has the experience of mining.

At the end with the buoy rig an appropriate amount of weight on the other end of the rope to bring the buoy back up faster than by hand and easier. Pulley quality of course affects ease of of operation.

Jason, Lots of good ideas below but let me give you one. You live in the Bellingham area. Lots of people commercially and recreationally crab fish in your area, and most save their backs and legs (after suffering from hand pulling 50# pots) by using electric capstan drive gurdies. I'm quite sure you can find one or two used ones at reasonable prices. Hook them up with a good gen set, set an open face block or two at appropriate places and mount the capstans so that it can be moved to various places in your mine and let it do the hard work of pulling carts, lowering and retrieving bags etc. Much easier to push buttons and reset lines in different open sided blocks at various bends in the shafts (if needed) than using you back. A chute from the end of your mine headframe platform to your truck also makes sense; a wider chute that you can put ten bags on a small pallet and back down the chute again with the capstan. Good off season project to play with. Great video series! Good luck and swamp out all the gold fines on bedrock before you move away from mucking an area....get it all!

Never knew Gold had a season. I am always going for the gold. Thanks Jason, can't wait for the shop process.

@semoneg2826

7 ай бұрын

Well am sure mining would be hard in the winter

We need some timelapses for this type of work. Really shows the work gettin done a lot better. Great work Jason!

Awesome! Thx for taking g us along.

For mine, I drilled an overhead system using a pallet of electric scooters that municipalities comfenscate and then auction off here in California, I basically just saw off the handle, zip tie to the platform, keeping all of the internals intact I have a generator outside with a DC out there are a couple different ways you could do this, but it’s basically like a gondola system

@PrePaidTeam

7 ай бұрын

Thinking of an upgrade using a truck tire rigged with a birdcage hub to pull bags semi filled bags custom for riding balanced in the tire cavity. Always the Mary Jane Simpson route but alas (no pun 😂) be tough with all those transitions..

I think you should draw up a map side view and top view of the mine so all of the engineers who are watching can give you ideas. Also the experienced miners will have input. I have climbed through a lot of mines in AZ and even I have some ideas, but don't know if they will work because the video may not be giving me the correct info to back it up. Or maybe I am just wrong.