I can’t tell what’s more funny. Namco switching on a dime when it comes to transparency or then actually believing Tekken prowess was a good idea for balancing and not some arbitrary number made for self esteem

@alexandermccalla5098

3 ай бұрын

@@LightWavessespecially considering that this game doesn’t promote fundamentals but rather pressing buttons. In other tekkens, when your character was promoted, your other characters would get promoted to make up for the fact that you at the very least have your basics down. For example, for the time I played Ganryu in 7, I was undefeated but had I started or matched with beginners, even if I was new to the character, I’d destroy them. This prowess system would make sense in the last game. It doesn’t make sense here where the characters aren’t really balanced. And what scares me is their intent to balance around buffs and not nerfs

@zaofactor

3 ай бұрын

Tou people can't be satisfied. Don't you all remember how many people asked for this very style of matchmaking?

@KainRazielMT

3 ай бұрын

@@zaofactor Read the comment above yours. It explains why this is not a good implementation IN TEKKEN8 because T7 and before required you to move and defend more, while T8 is just abusing characters who have + frames on every string, even on block, perma frame-trap and turbo launchers.

@zaofactor

3 ай бұрын

@KainRazielMT But that's the game you have. It's not Tekken 7.5. It's a different game, and Bamco told everyone that it was a different game. Learn to deal with the hand you've got or stop playing. You can't just keep bitching to the dealer all day. In fact, not playing is the only way that you have a chance to get what you want.

@UncleHyena

3 ай бұрын

@@zaofactor listen I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here so I’m gonna try and keep my cool. Please have a little bit more nuance here. Prowess has always been worthless and has never been a good indicator of skill because of the numerous factors that Frame listed above but even if it were we have to consider what this will do with queueing. Somebody who likes to level up multiple characters to Red rank will be forced to fight gods Runnings their secondaries and not the rank they’re supposed to be allocated. The issue is the implementation, Prowess does not function well as a metric for player skill when there are other external factors that shape it, besides skill

AYO THAT THIRD TAB lol- knowing frame it’s up there on purpose 😂

@markoholic_

3 ай бұрын

That caught me off guard ngl 🤣

@mnonodzilala8508

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Smug9991

3 ай бұрын

Love Frame's dry sense of humor

@hands-ongaming7180

3 ай бұрын

Alisa r34 better 😊

@303Smilezzz

3 ай бұрын

Lmao!!!

"you're IN Ganryu" That comment at the bottom 🤣🤣

F U T A Reina 34 💀

@FrameWhisperer

3 ай бұрын

shush....

@El_Diablo-vo9lr

3 ай бұрын

​@@FrameWhispererbush?

@DBGT00

3 ай бұрын

@@FrameWhisperer Reina armpit mods when?

@aoneko6813

3 ай бұрын

Good taste, Frame. 😭😄

@Vespyr_

3 ай бұрын

@@DBGT00 Based.

Namco should really be ashamed how badly they spaghetti'ed Tekken 8. From full prase to maximum hate in 3 months.

@hands-ongaming7180

3 ай бұрын

Self sabotage is a real mental disorder.

@Megamibunny

3 ай бұрын

Tekken 7 was worse but it had an arcade version. This is the beta

@rafu9248

3 ай бұрын

​@@Megamibunny This is not a beta version, but the full product release. We have already had the CBT.

@energyvanquish

3 ай бұрын

@@rafu9248first time they’ve done a release that’s not been in arcades first right? So I’m not too surprised they’re struggling early on with balancing

@rafu9248

3 ай бұрын

​@@energyvanquishNo, we had multiple beta tests instead of an arcade version, so it's essentially the same thing.

you are now aware of the 3rd tab in his browser. Well played frame, well played

@lasue7244

3 ай бұрын

That's the KZread engagement booster tab. Frame finally became a YouThoober

@midaignesvittu

3 ай бұрын

im going to pretend that i didnt see that shit!

@windows98alpha35

3 ай бұрын

You are now breathing manually.

@ryanlett587

3 ай бұрын

What does it say?

@LuckyNeffy

3 ай бұрын

Futa reina r34 XD ​@@ryanlett587

The actual downfall of tekken 8 is something that needs to be documented

@i3ssb00st5

3 ай бұрын

i have yet to actually see it happen lol

Who tf is making these decisions at bamco??

@addydiesel6627

3 ай бұрын

Manglement 😂

Scamco trying to make T8 better challenge (impossible, gone wrong)

Damn I was wondering what was going on. I spent 3 months getting my Bryan to Fujin and I decided to start ranking up some pocket picks. My Destroyer Kazuya is running into 250k Feng Wei players in Orange ranks.....Needless to say, my Orange rank level Kazuya did not stand a chance xDD I thought the original ranked system was fine. If I am ranking up a non-main in lower ranks and beat my opponents consistently, I should be ranked up because I don't belong there. Its annoying running into people who are much better than you when you are learning new characters but the way the ranked system was before worked so you would eventually plateau with your new character at a lower rank than your main, and despite your opponents being fundamentally weaker than you, you had to grind and adapt to the rank to improve your skill with your character and I think that is just the best way to do it.

Prowess is weird, I will steamroll a player and lose prowess.

@TrainingToRipTheDevilsHeadOff

3 ай бұрын

It does dumb things because it’s also linked to your performance stats

@ckorp666

3 ай бұрын

@@TrainingToRipTheDevilsHeadOff the goofy in-game metrics for those silly postgame charts are being used for elo???? actually unfathomable

@merikijiya13

3 ай бұрын

I didn’t know you could lose prowess

@TrainingToRipTheDevilsHeadOff

3 ай бұрын

@@merikijiya13 yeah, you could 3-0 a match, but fail to break a few throws or press into a counter hit launch. Your defensive stat could go down enough to lower your prowess even though you won decisively.

@YungKuroKami

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that shit is so annoying

Ngl, Namdai Banco definitely lured us into the van with this one.

I swear,I knew something was off in the last week or so, I use to try and level up multiple characters for fun and noticed how hard the majority of matches were compared to before. Thanks for the video.

@onidari

3 ай бұрын

@@LightWavessBro yes . Like it’s quick match I don’t want to play blue ranks every damn match 😂

Look on the bright side, the more they fuck up ranked, the less ranked matters, the less rank stress I get. Thank you Bandai very cool

@ckorp666

3 ай бұрын

same with being unable to watch replays against DLC chars u dont own. if they dont want me to learn the game, ill just keep mashing B)

This explains so much. I spend up to 40 minutes finding a ranked match in a lounge full of players no matter what search criteria I use. I use 2 characters, my prowess is about 360k and I only play the same 3 or 4 names. I play group matches more often which seems to be where I find better players now. Found a 1st Dan yesterday who's clearly smurfing but had fun games. Ranked is a waste of time unless I know one or more of the usual suspects are on.

@FrameWhisperer

3 ай бұрын

Sounds horrible, maybe I'll wait for a patch

@exiledhebrew1994

3 ай бұрын

Sooo… it’s just like tekken 7 again. lol

@rabbyd542

3 ай бұрын

This is why I stopped grinding ranked matches. It's extremely boring playing an online game against the same people all night. I think 135K is the sweet spot to get match fast against many opponents.

The funniest part is that if they really wanted to fix "smurfing" from people playing different characters... All they had to do was increase the rank of the alt characters. Make it so alts get leveled up to like 1 rank tier below your main instead of 2 tiers. Also, Eddy in particular was only a problem because of their own oversight where the game started him out at Beginner for everyone, even if you had a character at Tekken God. If you didn't want to stomp noobs you had to reach a rank milestone with a different character to level him up properly, which is ridiculous. But no, of course instead they change how the matchmaking works entirely and didn't even mention it in the patch notes.

@odkgame693

3 ай бұрын

I'm tekken king Lee. When i decided to try play Paul the game placed me on mighty ruler. From my experience i can say that Mighty's in T8 are completely scrubs. There is gigantic skill gap between T7 mighty ruler and T8 one. In T8 rulers can't execute proper combos with wall combo. This is insane. Scrub's getting high ranks in 100-200 hours they are not suppose to have and complaining about matches with solid players.

@JeanKP14

3 ай бұрын

@@odkgame693 You know you could be a little nicer and say "casuals" because many people are TRYING to get better at the game and making it to Mighty Ruler is a good goal for someone like me. God forbid someone be new to the game or Tekken itself and struggling to learn carry and wall combos on top of fucking everything else LOL

@odkgame693

3 ай бұрын

@@JeanKP14 Sorry if i offended you. Sitting on the rank you don't deserve(fujin in 100 hours) and complaining about getting matches with veterans = scrub. Actually, This is not people's fault that game pushes everyone so high in a very short time. In T7 i got mighty ruler after ~500 hours and this was not worst results

@DaggerPrince

3 ай бұрын

eddy thing wasnt an oversight, you should know that by now. they wanted new players to be getting beat up by high ranks who they think are "begginers" like themselves so theyll be like "man this new character is so strong, maybe i should buy him" cuz theyll assume its the character and not the player because "Hey hes a begginner like me". they were tryina be evil and manipulative like always - and now theyre paying the price for it. some people like this matchmaking change cuz it helps newer players, theyre not getting smurfed on by people anymore. some people hate this change. so now no matter what namco does - keeping it, reverting it - there will be a crowd thatll be pissed off. if they didnt try to be evil greedy and manipulative by putting Eddy at Begginner, theyd never put themselves at this crossroads of wrong answers-only.

@waize-1383

3 ай бұрын

@@odkgame693 I completely agree with you.

The steam reviews are now: "recent reviews: Mostly Negative"

@JunKazamaFan

3 ай бұрын

They get what they deserve.

even at 100k prowess you end up having a long wait to play people at green ranks on characters you want to try out. terrible experience for a casual player like me who wants to play various characters at the rank they're in, not based on my pseudo- matchmaking score

Imagine making one of the most well received modern fighting game instalments and then fumbling it lmao. Incompetence at it's finest. Killing mods, adding a battle pass, in-game monetisation of a game that is paid for and now they're causing matchmaking issues. What's next, deleting the ability to sidestep and block? At this point, we'll never know. GG Bamco, you fucked it up lmao

@yourmom2974

3 ай бұрын

Tekken 11 will be a battle royale

@JG_Minnit

3 ай бұрын

They absolutely did NOT 'kill mods', they're powerless to you putting a skin in the game.

@Sammysapphira

3 ай бұрын

Nothing is fumbled. The game is good. Grow up.

@danktempsey6110

3 ай бұрын

​@@Sammysapphirawhatever makes you sleep at night peacefully little boy

@GrownManPat

3 ай бұрын

In game monetization? Ok, what if you just play matches and don't spend money? I don't see why anyone would be affected by these features of they don't invest in them lol

During tekken 8 i transitioned from being a 1 character main to maining 3 characters and i got them all to similar ranks and what i noticed is my prowess barely changed. that feature may not have carried over from tekken 7 according to what im seeing. but i could be wrong

@oktanskioktan9372

3 ай бұрын

I think Prowess depends on the highest rank character. Less ranks champs barely matters.

Being punished for playing multiple characters is wild.

I haven't played ranked in a couple weeks so I didn't notice, almost at 1k player match wins tho! I been playin south park snow day too, lol

Playing fighting games offline is so much better than online.

There should be thing called Ranked tournaments, where you are pited against people with the same color ranks as you are, as in they have actual semi finals and grand finals, and the winner of the whole tournament gets promoted to a new rank

Your cautionary disclaimer back when the Shop was announced caused me to put off purchasing the game, and I've come to appreciated my decision several times over since then. You saved me $70 and immeasurable regret, thank you.

my favorite gambling streamer

That's actually insane. I personally never played a Tekken game before 8. Because of that I have made an effort to learn the whole roster atleast a bit. So I've taken about 5 characters so far to mighty ruler. Yesterday I was playing Paul in low red ranks and getting matched up against bushin and tekken god ranked players. Seemed like every match was against an old school vet. I thought it was just a weird day. But now it makes sense. Crazy that they would change it like this

Separate prowess for individual characters , here, I fixed it.

@FrameWhisperer

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much

@lmesen1873

3 ай бұрын

We already have that. It's called rank

@FrameWhisperer

3 ай бұрын

@@lmesen1873 Pretty much...

@Doc_Boons

3 ай бұрын

That's literally just what rank is. Prowess is an aggregate of all your ranks, more or less. The actual playstyle stuff only moves it a few thousand in either direction.

@pixytorres7117

3 ай бұрын

​@@Doc_Boons Problem with rank is that when you rank up your main every 3 levels you get a free promotion for your other characters, when you reach high level with your main the others are gonna be so high it's gonna be a con because you learn a new character and starting at the bottom is the best. Or at least Green Ranks.

I only play one character and it's broken for me. I have 150k prowess and there doesn't seem to be a lot of people in that range close to me, so I only get matched with people > 180k prowess, since the game really doesn't want to match me with someone with less prowess. As a result, I either face people on their main 3 ranks above me or people on their alt 3 ranks below me. Either way I get bodied or get 100 points.

Prowess also goes up in player match, I think ultimately, the number goes up based on efficiency with multiple characters

i thought I was going crazy fighting people way higher than me last night.

It's honestly sad to see how fast this game went from being arguably the most hyped fighter of the generation, to this mess we're currently in.

Another problem is that prowess do not decreases (or it does in a way that I don't understand). I only play one character, got Raijin and matchmaking changed 1 day later. Since then I was demoted all the way to Mighty Ruler (in one day), because matchmaking still puts me against people whose skill level is the same as the ones that I was facing when I was Raijin (prowess stayed roughly the same). What am I supposed to do? I won't purposefully rank down the characters that I didn't even play in the first place.

No one: No one in all realities in every different timeline and multiverse: No one in all upper and lower dimensions: No one in the afterlife: Me: *BALL*

Hi Frame. It is super weird to me that a high level player like yourself would be uninterested in tournaments and call them cringe. Could you please make a video explaining that? Could be interesting.

@FrameWhisperer

3 ай бұрын

I suppose I feel like they are mostly made up of constant talking, commercials from sponsors and reveals of new paid DLC. Fighting game tournaments are also notorious for rampant child s*xual abuse, including the former head of EVO. The best players are heavily incentivized to tier wh*re. Many of the game's main problems originate with e-sports. I'd rather Tekken just be good for the people playing at home, who are by far the majority consumer.

@NahNah-et1ej

3 ай бұрын

Local tournaments are supercool though. No dickheads, people dont tierwhore, superwholesome, great quality matches.

@barnacleman3233

3 ай бұрын

@@FrameWhisperer I agree, I love the idea of showing the best of the best duke it out and rewarding them for it but everything surrounding it just feels super grimy. Also it really is too influential considering how few people it affects. The fact that Bamco nerfed the bears right after Rangchu won TWT with Panda, and that Harada mentioned in an interview that the idea of making T8 more aggressive came from watching top level players playing too defensively, etc. The balance and direction of the series shouldn't be that influenced by how the top 0.01% of players interact with the game.

@Krystar2k8

3 ай бұрын

@@FrameWhisperer Great points, and to add to that we have to wait for balance patches because of these big events. Having to deal with broken characters or interactions for much longer than would normally be acceptable.

@buckbreaker5185

3 ай бұрын

​@barnacleman3233 even worse its affected by how people who dont play the game enjoy watching others play the game

Namco: WR brain damage speedrun(glitchless)

I got demoted from Tekken emperor to Bushin. I kept playing against Tekken God’s, Supreme etc. I am someone who doesn’t really care about rank but I was annoyed that I could not rank up because I keep facing people 4-5 ranks above my rank.

@cbimz

3 ай бұрын

Set the search limit to within 2 ranks dummy

i wonder if this has to do with everyone who got the dlc early got something like 3k to 20k added to their prowless. something a streamer pointed out when eddy was released. Im not sure but he showed since eddy was released he was awarded 15k extra prowless

@omegaweapon116

3 ай бұрын

I just commented this. It happened to me and I was kinda happy about it at first but now it's matching me up with guys whose max rank is a 2-3 ranks higher than mine which is Raijin.

@bilbobaggins7075

3 ай бұрын

It probably adds up all your characters ranks, so people without DLC have less. Yes, Namco are really that incompetent

@omegaweapon116

3 ай бұрын

@@bilbobaggins7075 That's a good theory. Makes sense

So basically we're all glued to the same pool of players, since everyone's prowess will grow approximatelly at the same rate, unless one drops the game for a while.

not me playing with 8k prowess 😂

@GGG_15

3 ай бұрын

I can’t break 100k to save my life lol 😂

I experienced this firsthand so I had a 98 streak and got to TK God with 90% wins but I noticed that my opponents were a lot worse than I expected. Then I played different characters and all of a sudden I’m only matching up against people who have a character, the same rank.😢😢😢

I don't generally have an issue with prowess being the indicator for whom I match with BUT the problem is half the time I get matches up with people of way higher prowess then myself. I'm hardlined red rank but I get alts of fujin players and get wrecked even in orange rank.

Well good thing I don’t play too much characters these days like I did in TTT2. Plan on focusing primarily on Jun after reaching Mighty Ruler with her and Azucena.

light mode moment

I love matching the same guy over and over because we have similar prowess.

Basically they said “If you even think about playing one more character, we’re gonna F you up”😂😂

@krisztianfrandsen8780

3 ай бұрын

disgusting really i've taken a break now i have 5 characters in fujinn tried ranking paul up aswell stuck in tenryu/ruler this is completely insane btw my matches are so weird i meet 250k+ and as low as 100k and im around 200k

@EX3G4MING

3 ай бұрын

@@krisztianfrandsen8780 if I remember I’m at 240k I have 2 Fujins & everyone else at MR. Ranked is now unplayable so all I can do to enjoy the game is join lobbies in player matches. I only get matched up with TK’s & above now.

@EdwardGordington

2 ай бұрын

@@krisztianfrandsen8780 yeeah man in oce because of small playerbase at 120k prowess i am ALWAYS facing people with 200k+! and most of them are playing alts 4+ ranks below me and its so hard to climb when im constantly facing people way above me, when i beat them i dont even get as much rating as i should because the game still recognises the rank diff as too much even though they are BETTER THAN ME LOL.

I legit just don’t want to play anymore. I hate getting to blue ranks cause it just means I’ll be smurfed by god players for the next decade just like tekken 7. The matchmaking they had was perfect. Now I can’t find a game and when I do it’s someone far removed from my skill level

@odkgame693

3 ай бұрын

This means you are not suppose to be on fujin. As t7 TTG i remember that light blue ranks doesn't mean free win. They were solid players and you must play solid or they got a chance to kick your ass in ft2

@Edmitsu

3 ай бұрын

@@odkgame693 Gotten to fujin in Tag 2 though T8. So sure bud.

@odkgame693

3 ай бұрын

@@Edmitsu that's cool but getting fujin 11+ years ago doesn't mean anything

Man ranked systems are so complicated, I can't believe the industry is still working out how to get it right after decades of online games.

My friend is new to Tekken and is a legit beginner. He kept complaining about how he couldn't beat hardly anyone online, so I went over to his house and watched him play quick match. Literally no one at that rank is a beginner, all smurfs. He said he used to play eddys with 150k tekken prowess but they've been gone the last couple days. Now it's just 5 minute waits and smurfs. I think Namco might actually have people with mental disabilities working there.

So Basically, you want to have the luxury of stomping weaker players when you switch to a different character.

I was wondering if there was something going on, I hadn't played in a bit and i decided to go back and pick up Leroy because he's cool and I was sooo bad in training beforehand but decided just to test my luck with him in ranked and ended up getting to Mighty Ruler in just a couple hours lol

Man i missed you.

My suspicion is that this change is a result of their having made the first ranks so easy to climb. The first ten ranks are free, and then the point system quite actively pulls you toward reds. Back in T7, it was entirely reasonable for red ranks to play against blue rank alts--it sucked for those of us coming up the first time, but it wasn't impossible, and by the time we got through reds, we knew something about the game. Now, in T8, red ranks correspond to a huge chunk of the player base--let's say from the fiftieth to the seventy-fifth percentiles, or what were late yellow to late red back in T7. T8 red ranks really don't belong against T8 blue ranks alts, and so--having flown up the ranks and then hit a very sudden, very hard plateau--all the reds started complaining, even though five out of six red-rank matches were still entirely appropriate. As you said, Namco's new strategy is for new players only to have positive feelings and never, under any circumstances, to have to work for anything. From what I've seen on Reddit, they love this change: "Fujin after three months? Amazing!"

@ckorp666

3 ай бұрын

it feels like the logical next step, with ELO being gutted and turned into a skinner box in so many games, is ppl going back to not caring about ranks bc they're all fake anyway and just make u miserable when obsessed over

@Doc_Boons

3 ай бұрын

@@ckorp666 I can inhabit that point of view sometimes, but I have to admit that rank is a fun motivator and it's a useful way of seeing if changes you made to your playstyle really did yield results. I can't imagine playing this game for years on end with nothing tangible to break up the experience. Rank is a nice way to give kind of a "story" to your progression. I really think if it's done right, it is a useful mechanic.

@DeadMan-uz1ii

3 ай бұрын

This is exactly what happened since they wanted to funnel everyone to Red rank so fast and now red-purple rank ppl new players that were stuck in a rank for a good while are loving this patch.add that eddy beginner rank problem and I believe that was the the inspo for this patch.

Hello, my Maestro.

one thing id like to know and maybe you kind of address this in the video. If im playing someone of "simular rank" but its their second or third character in my mind im playing against the rank of their main. Chances are their main is 2 to 3 color ranks ahead of me. therefore better skill. whats the difference between that and the issues ppl are dealing with in tekken prowess?

you could abuse this and derank all the characters you don't play for free wins on your main

In mighty ruler with my main and 145k prowess, anytime I play on a new character I get matched up against people with minimum 120k prowess, despite these new characters starting in yellow rank. It sucks because I can't actually experience playing against yellow ranks when I'm on a new character. I think this choice with matchmaking is another one of the many ways Tekken is trying to appeal to new/bad players. They're isolating people that understand the fundamentals of the game away from people who don't. When I play on a new character I'm trying to avoid the sweatfest that is ranked, so it sucks when I end up playing the same people I would on my main.

I love you whisperer of frames

Welcome back Frame

If I didn't know any better, I'd say Namco is self sabotaging Tekken 8 on purpose.

Get 'em Frame 💪🏽

I just made Kishin with Jin yesterday and was curious why I kept having to square off against players 2 ranks higher rank than I, even some of the same guys multiple times. I realize now having a Raijin Paul and an up and coming Nina inflating my prowess may be a reason for that. At least I feel proud I had to beat a Bushin to get out of Raijin for my promo match.

I still get players with lot less prowess

@user-vz1cn6vb2j

3 ай бұрын

Ofcourse you do, this guy fulla shit, he got a big gaping hole in his neck.

Another problem with this new system is to learn new characters. Your "official" rank might be low with the new character but your tekken power will stay the same as before. Thus you will only play with people who are at the same level as your main, making it extra hard.

My guess is the best players are being matched up against themselves. I haven't really noticed anything.

Why would they try to hide it when people find out anyway !? Were they really hoping people wouldn't ?

I thought that this was always the case with Tekken prowess. I reached a high rank in T7 but only with one fighter, so instead of fighting TGP, I'd still be faced with lower ranks with similar prowess. I think the trick is, if you want harder fights, rank up with many fighters. If you'd prefer equal skill, just rank up one fighter only.

@fernandomoran3061

3 ай бұрын

I am not sure abou it, because I have 2 characters in tekken king, 3 en bushin and a character en fujin but my tekken prowess is low for someone in my rank, I see people that they highest rank is raijin with the same tekken prowess then me.

@dopefury

3 ай бұрын

@@fernandomoran3061 I've seen some content creators with TGS rank with less than 150k, but I get matched vs Bushins with 200+

I noticed this the other day. I kept running into lower rank Eddys with similar Tekken prowess and the game was taking over twice as long to get me a match

Last night i fought the same Reina and Steve 3 times in a row. Then i started writing down every rank and prowess and nearly every single person had a massive rank/prowess over mine.

The game could make a note to itself when you get one of those rank up all your characters below your current rank notices and apply it to newly purchased characters. This would have been an easy solution that they should have figured out years ago.

Yep, tried calvary Shaheen yesterday and my first ranked game was against blue ranked Lee. Not fun.

We should be able to rematch in rank...

Can someone tell me what the music is in the background?

Tekken Prowess is almost unaffected by the number of characters you play at least up until Blue Ranks (I've ranked to Fujin with 9 different characters, and my prowess didn't change one bit compared to when I got to Blue ranks the first time). I would much rather be matched according to Prowess than being matched against someone at my same rank but with 90k Prowess more than me. Having a parameter such as Tekken Prowess implemented in the game and NOT using it to make the matchmaking better would be (and has so far been) insultingly stupid.

I agree with you @FrameWhisperer. The question now is, how can bamco make ranked mode match you up with similar skill range players without any problems for the player's overall experience? I feel that players should be matched with players of similar skill because what's the point of having a rank / tekken prowess score in the first place if that's not the case? I understand that's probably too much to ask bamco for without them messing up ranked mode further, but this should be addressed overtime.

Yup this hidden patch really messed me up😂 I got 3 Fujins and around 6 purples and decided to play eddy when he came out and got him to Raijin. Little did I know getting him there would give me an extra 80-90k so I’m sitting at 240k prowess in blue ranks versing tekken kings and above🤦🏽‍♂️

Played the same eddy like 3x in a row I knew something weird was going on😂

I noticed it , played the same players a few times , I thought that it was because I was in quick match

Maybe they want to counterplay pluggers who are trying to save their rank What do you think about the quick match mode?

People were complaining about sweaty matches against alts who had much higher prowess than their main so they did this change and clearly its not working out. I think what they could do is revert it back, but if you are tenryu and matched up with an alt tenryu whos main is tekken king, then you lose less ranked points due to the difference in prowess. It might make ranked more lenient, but it should help with the issue that existed before and after this change.

Before this video I had no idea what r34 was. Ty for the educational video.

I've stopped playing this game almost 2 months ago. I got Bushin Shaheen with minimal difficulty in a bit over a week of release playing casually every other day. I use to love Tekken, I mean LOVE this game (played T7 daily since launch with Gigas) but man this current state is just not fun. It's almost unrecognizable to it's previous titles. I am so glad I love other things like my wife, martial arts, and weight training or I'd be depressed lol

bruh and i was wondering why i can't play the game for more than a couple of matches per day... i'am someone who likes to play a lot of characters i have devil jin,Shaheen,kazuya,lee at fujin and reina,victor,drag,jin at battle ruler

What's really messed up is when Eddy released I got him to Fujin that day. Prior to that my highest ranked character was Kuma who was also Fujin. I had between 8-11 other characters between Tenryu and Battle Ruler. I've had a character Crisis and enjoy learning multiple characters. Prior to Eddy release my Prowess was around 180k. Day after Eddy dropped (Fujin Eddy) 230k prowess. Now I only get matched with people 3-6 ranks above my highest ranked character or Tekken gods and gwds of destructions on alt characters. Not very fun to only fight against people that play 1-3 characters at a very high level when I play 10 different characters at a moderately capable level.

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also a solid 5-10 mins inbetween matches

They done brought sbmm to fighting games 😔

Gamerant has a good article on 'What performance or player stats mean.'

No WAY Remnant 2! I’m very excited!

I don’t play hwo but it’s interesting to call playing against him torture. I’m personally most bothered by Alisa, Victor, and Raven due to how difficult it is for me to track what’s happening on the screen with the flying/teleporting. Respect your opinion though

Bamco just keeps on giving more and more reasons for us to stop playing this game 🤣

I’m struggling because I levelled up multiple character’s and have a high prowess , getting matches with the same people over and over again absolute joke 🤬

Well they got rid of my main so I play multiple characters now. I’m not stuck at a rank but I’m in a character crisis and this doesn’t help 😂

i just made it to fujin before this matchmaking patch came out now im back to mighty ruler... idk what the fucks going on anymore

Where i am in Oceania matchmaking wait times on ranked were already 10mins. Now with the change i can sit there and thr PS5 will literature enter sleep mode because it takes soo long.

Yeah it’s bad. 8 characters I have between Shinryu and Battle Ruler. Have one Fujin. Now no matter what, I go against prowess between 180-220.

Very good points on everything except the last one IMHO. It is important that they release their major balance update following observations in offline top tournaments, the highest level of Tekken objectively. This is where all exploits or imbalances are exposed in a clear and public manner and where we get the closest to seeing the true potential of the characters, expressed in a practical way by the best players in the world. If you attempt to balance before that, you might create other unintended issues and imbalances (what happened with the most recent patches), and misjudge what really should be nerfed/buffed in a subtle way once and for all ( ie: Azucena Wr3,2 that had to be changed twice recently). Because I don't want the game and my char to change every 2-3 weeks. Ideally I prefer one massive major update with serious competent work made on balance every season.

Man at this point Namco doesn't give a fuck about the game tbh.

So I need to rank my second highest character to fujin before I rank up my other characters then

I respect your opinion about esport. Game developers should stop listening to proplayers and care about their usual audience because the so called casuals actually bring the money and copies sold to the company. Listening to pro players bitching about balance/characters did nothing good for example to Overwatch or Mortal Kombat. Also proplayers make terrible trend of tier whoring when you keep seeing 3 same characters online and that stuff happens across all the modern fighting games.

I purposedly lowered my rank from 5 ranks so that I play people around my skill level. I don't know why I got matches only vs people 2-3 ranks above me for no apparent reason. So I was like "well, my rank doesn't matter to me anyway, I just want to play people around my level, so, let's give free wins today". Glad to know I'm not the only one thinking something was up, no one is talking about.

LMFAOOO MY BOY FORGOT TO CLOSE THE TAB