There is a museum on Edinburgh, that has three musket balls lodged in the Targe. The Targe was made in three parts. One, a thin metal backing, two, the wood was plywood, and often made from green wood. So it would absorb a blow and not shatter. Three, leather or hide fitted to the metal and wood base, then covered in tacks/nails of silver or brass, but mostly brass. I studied this, because I wanted to build one. Which I did, and yes it has a metal backing, which I then covered in wool felt. And mine has a spike int he center. This is covered in a book called "Scottish Weapons and Fortifications, 1100-1800, by David H. Caldwell

@Skallagrim

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I didn't know about the metal backing on some of them. That makes sense.

@koticneutralftw7016

2 жыл бұрын

I think I remember that when I visited. Is that at the National Museum or the National War Museum?

@longrider42

2 жыл бұрын

@@koticneutralftw7016 This was way back in 87, so I cant really remember. Except saying to myself "Who ever was holding that shield when those musket balls hit, must have been a big guy, or knocked on his backside.

@PJDAltamirus0425

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda curious if their are modern rounds it will stop. I can kinda think it could possibly stop birdshot and pistol calibers 9mm and below but I don’t study ballistics:

@Skallagrim

2 жыл бұрын

@@PJDAltamirus0425 Birdshot yes. 22LR probably. 9mm? Maybe at an angle from enough of a distance, but otherwise seems unlikely.

When I was in primary school we had a project where we spent days making our own targes, most fun I’ve ever had in school

@shadowknightgaming1874

2 жыл бұрын

Did you get to use them on your class mates?

@jeanxza5395

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowknightgaming1874 it was followed by a death skirmish after lunch break

@wanderingexo8689

2 жыл бұрын

Fucking lucky

@brianmccarthy5557

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowknightgaming1874 Presumably the plan was to use them in an attack on the unsuspecting English overlords of the school, which I presume was in Scotland.

@Sk0lzky

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianmccarthy5557 stone of destiny heist didn't work out, they have to take more direct approach this time

looks like a shield some mythical hero would use, however as you said, it'd be a shame if it got ruined.

@MrYago-xd7um

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like the tea table for some arabian king and I absolutely love it. Douglas made an icon.

@johnsun3854

2 жыл бұрын

Conan the Barbarian would probably like it. Well if he could put his hand trough the strap.

@Asertix357

2 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if a targe with this level of artistic detail was intended for parade/ceremonial duties, while battle targes had plain undetailed hide covering with far fewer studded nails.

@jacopoarmini7889

2 жыл бұрын

@@Asertix357 its likely, after all your everyday soldier may have not been able to afford such an expensive shield, and probably wouldn't like to spend a fortune only to have it shredded by bullets.

@chroma6947

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacopoarmini7889 Poormans targe was barely studded and made with a whiskey lid

I hope you cover the two other most iconic shields: the Splendid Screen and the Tide Turner

@Chungskingi

2 жыл бұрын

Of course traditionally worn with ali babbas wee booties

@kaanferikel

2 жыл бұрын

I see you are a man of culture

@corvoadrian6970

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget they iconic weapon of choice the terrifying Frying pan

@paladinslash4721

2 жыл бұрын

Eyelander, Persian Persuader, or Half Zatoichi?

@xootisbirb2235

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the beloved demoknight

I’m the youngest brother of Douglas Shaffer and I’m so proud of his craftsmanship. His attention to detail and historical accuracy is amazing and his original designs are just as beautiful! I’m so lucky to have such a mentor. The forearm strap will stretch with use or can accelerate the process by wetting it and molding it. Keep in mind you want a tight fit! Thanks for the great vid!

Also gives crits after charging

@Sr_ECO

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean while charging?

@acemarvel1564

2 жыл бұрын

Super effective at eating musket rounds for breakfast

@markeister1560

2 жыл бұрын

Scrumpy!

@phucgiang395

2 жыл бұрын

+50% resistance to fire +30% resistance to explosives

@rustyshackleford5591

2 жыл бұрын

Classic tf2 reference. Classy

You could even throw the brass plug to end your enemies rightly.

@MikaelKKarlsson

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt the reason why the Brits banned it. ;-)

@jellyfishjones4741

2 жыл бұрын

Real men throw the whole shield!

@keithharper32

2 жыл бұрын

@@jellyfishjones4741 Steve Rodgers approves of this post

@thomashongshagen4912

2 жыл бұрын

I dont know, I think the geneva convention has some limitations on the use of thermonuclear weapons

@namekman01

2 жыл бұрын

* * has cold sweated flash back to getting killed by pommel throws in mordhau * *

this shield is incredibly gorgeous!

seeing a straight sword with a round shield in the 18th century in combat sure is neat

@maximilianolimamoreira5002

2 жыл бұрын

Well, broadswords were common back then, the Venetians even had a regiment of Dalmatian swordsmen in their army, and they tried to defend the Republic, but failed and the French republican army ended the Venetian Republic.

@frosmane9041

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 yeah but it's not the most common sighting, nor the most common knowledge.

@maximilianolimamoreira5002

2 жыл бұрын

@@frosmane9041 yeah, smallswords and sabers were more popular back then.

That's a gorgeous targe. I really enjoyed your older highland videos. Do you still own your basket hilted broadsword?

@Skallagrim

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the one I'm literally holding in this video? :)

@trentweston8306

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skallagrim that would be the one! P.S. I haven't watched it yet 😉

@0KeepRockin0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skallagrim Love the video Skall. You were just missing the Dirk dagger, also carried in the shield hand. Of course I'm sure you already knew that.

@Skallagrim

2 жыл бұрын

@@0KeepRockin0 Yeah, I've mentioned it in other videos.

@Kingsman88115

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skallagrim Quick question; do you think you could do a video about what weapons would best suit different body types? I know that a trained soldier would be able to fight with any weapon decently enough, but I imagine that some weapons would be obviously better-suited for different body types. Do you think you could do an essay?

If you're concerned about your armor getting penetrated, angling not only gives you the chance for deflecting, but increases your effective thickness for absorbing the shot. Interesting to see the concept applied for shield use, while also in more modern application with tanks.

Sorry. Glasgow native here. It's pronounced "Glaz-go", not "Glass-gow". Awesome shield. Beautiful design.

Don't forget that a Dirk was often held in the left hand with the targe, in an ice-pick grip. It made to a very effective close range setup.

Missed that they often had a dirk in the shield hand as well.

@lifefindsaway7875

2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised he didn’t mention that as well! Maybe the grip is too think for him to fit both in his hand?

@leonrussell9607

2 жыл бұрын

@@lifefindsaway7875 the targe was attached to the wrist and only the dirk was held in the hand if they were using both

1:33 Possibly the coolest irl battle tactic I’ve ever heard of. Makes me proud to be part Scott lol

Hearing "targe" always makes me think of the Demoman's "Chargin' Targe" from Team Fortress 2. One of the few examples in media I can think of in which a shield is explicitly supposed to be a targe. Most often targe-sized shields in media are just abnormally viking roundshields made to be abnormally small (like in Skyrim, for instance). _“If I were to pick up this cowering-plate, I would have to put down my second sword,” a Scotsman thinks. “And urely that is madness.”_ _The Chargin’ Targe solves this riddle by turning the useless shield into a deadly weapon you can run at people with and then bludgeon to death._ - TF2 Wiki, on the Chargin' Targe

I liked this shield. It's nice seeing videos on more unknown shields. Could you maybe one day get your hands on an Adarga shield? It's a very unique shape and it's been used quite a lot but not a lot of people have heard of it.

@theghosthero6173

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see it but unfortunately no one knows for sure how to make them. I am planning to try to get one custom made for reenactment but their is no guarantee that it will hold up to expectations.

@Crytica.

2 жыл бұрын

@@theghosthero6173 We got some nice examples of them in museums. I believe there are great intact ones in Madrid. Hopefully you can find someone who might could maybe make one from those references. Not knowing how it will perform is also a part of the fun right?

@theghosthero6173

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crytica. well if it performs badly my whole kit aesthetic is going to take a big hit so idk if I'm that optimistic ahah

@Krytern

2 жыл бұрын

One of the most iconic shields =/= unknown

@Crytica.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krytern I can ask probably 90% of the world population to draw three shields out of the top of their heads and none will have the Adarga in it.

Great video, I always love watching folk talking about Scottish history or facts, especially Highland Scots history as i'm from there. Only criticism I have is the battle was called Culloden, pronounced Cull-odd-en, and Glasgow is pronounced like Glaz-Go. I actually walked the battlefield of Culloden when I was a kid, its fascinating, if you ever find yourself in Scotland i'd recommend it as part of a tour of the highlands.

@Del_S

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Glasgow ends in go. Possibly even a square go.

Since I'm from Central Europe I didn't actually know about the targe! Thanks for the knowledge! Commenting for the algorithm.

Very cool shield, looks like a work of art. Could you talk about using shields with off-hand or two-handed weapons? Targes are often showed like that.

The forearm strap can be fitted to the wearer, but it's designed to keep the shield in optimum position against your arm so it shouldn't be too loose. Keeping it against your arm provides better bracing and prevents the shield from slapping against your arm. As a rule for many weapons, improper bracing can lead to injuries when receiving a blow.

I like the targe shield as it's one of the most versatile shields in my opinion sporting a spike at the end of the shield front and being able to have another weapon in hand behind it while protecting your arm. While you can wield damn near whatever other weapon you want in your main hand

Inverness native here. Just a wee correction on pronunciation. Rather than "cull-dun" we say "cuh loddin" with emphasis on the "lodd". Not related, but some other ones that pop up a lot are: Gaelic in Scotland is pronounced gah-lic not gay-lic Balloch in Inverness is ba-loch with emphasis on the Loch, whereas Balloch near lomond is bahh-lich with emphasis on the bahh. Happy to help with any pronunciations, seeing as even different parts of scotland say the same spelling differently. Love your vids👌🏻

You could've also covered how the targe was also used with pikes. There's not a lot of documentation on it, though.

I love hearing Canadians and Americans trying to pronounce Glasgow. It's more "Glaz-go" than "glass cow". Bonus points for Glaesga(Glehs-ga), but that doesn't really work outside a weegie accent.😂

@Herio7

2 жыл бұрын

It's weird that in my non English speaking country they taught us it's pronounced glazgow very close to correct it seems while in USA they aren't going for proper way.

@adamidas359

2 жыл бұрын

@@Herio7 to be fair, if you said Glaz-gow or glass cow, people would probably know where you were talking about. It's just always made me chuckle.

@ziggarillo

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it's Glasgae. almost Glazgay but not quite, The English pronounce it Glaz-go or even Glarsgo

@ziggarillo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Herio7 It's a Scots city so both are wrong.

@juliantheapostate8295

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziggarillo It's Glaz-gow if you're not speaking in dialect

that has to be the most beautiful shield i have ever seen

You're literally the first youtuber talking about the "subscription feed" instead of banging the drum about clicking the bell. It is the only way I use youtube and I've never had problems with missing videos, so its definitely the way to go.

@insertname3977

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here, the feed is what I use to watch random shit I'll never subscribe to. I only use the subscription feed otherwise.

Hey Skall, I do tabletop RPGs and am replying to let you know some of your videos inspire me to think about alternative ideas for the game. For example, you covered a video mentioning chemically altered wood being maybe equivalent as bronze and between that video and MalcolmPL's video on Algonquin armor led me to the idea that Wood Elves could well use equipment made entirely from wood and animal parts. This video got me rethinking about crazy hill gnomes and how they could use decorative shields to protect not only against skins and arrows, but also versus magic. Thank you for all the "crazy" stuff you post. Or should I say "eclectic"? 😎

That shield looks amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!

Actually someone recently did a video testing the targe against muskets, and they did surprisingly well. We were all shocked at how "bulletproof" the targe was to firearms of the time, both pistol and musket.

@WH6FQE

7 ай бұрын

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this looks like the inspiration for the Gerudo Shields

Angling the shield also is how angled tank armor works. Also a shield is standoff armor such as is put over the sides of tank treads. Just a thought.

"Until 1746, after which the Targe was banned." ...Welp. I guess that's another thing to put on the list of things I'm not proud of being English for. Glad to see the Targe getting some more spotlight. They're ridiculously pretty shields.

@deathbyastonishment7930

2 жыл бұрын

@@Feroce they were banned to suppress Scottish culture after many Scott’s supported an attempted restoration. I doubt they are still banned today.

@Swordthrower77

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathbyastonishment7930 That might be why the English banned them but it’s not why the Scots stopped using them. The Jacobites got slaughtered attempting the tactics mentioned in the video at Culloden advancing into canister fire.

@juliantheapostate8295

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathbyastonishment7930 We are known as Scots. And no, Queen Victoria reversed many of the anti-Scottish cultural bans as she was very fond of Scotland. She set up the Balmoral estate. When our current Queen says 'The Queen', she is referring to Queen Victoria. The Stewart monarchs were tyrants, I'm glad Cumberland put them down at Culloden

@maximilianolimamoreira5002

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathbyastonishment7930 no, these laws banning Highland weapons and clothing were revoked by a parliamentary act in 1782, and even then, Scottish noblemen could disregard these laws buying kilts, plaids and weapons, as the only legal way for common folk to keep using Highland clothing and weapons was to enlist in the Highland regiments of the British army.

@chroma6947

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathbyastonishment7930 and then victorians romanticized highlanders

don't think I've ever gotten a notification this quickly for your channel. This was pretty cool! That spike attachment is pretty gnarly

Craftsmanship is on point very lovely piece of art as like he said I'd never want too use it for sparring. Would only use it for reenactment work or just showing it off to others.

As a Glaswegian, I just can't help but correct the pronunciation of my home city. It's 'Glaz-go'. Great vid, as usual.

As to strapping the shield on the back: my understanding is that there is an artifact targe where there are rings near the edge on the backside of the shield, which appear to have been for passing some kind of strap or cord through, the exact purpose of which is not documented. My personal suspicion is that while having a string or cord that goes around the edge of the shield made it easy to hang on any number of things, but the reason it goes around the entire edge may be so that a heavy object might be laid on it and carried by a number of people, or so that it may be attached like the tray of an old fashioned balance, for carrying things under a pole, or so that a bundle might be secured on the backside, so that the bundle and shield could be kept together and not get separated if say, the owner had access to a baggage train that carried many people's things.

Perfect timing on that shield comparison video! I just started going to my local SCA group and am trying to decide what sort of shield to make myself, that will be a great help!

Great video! And oh my god, that is beautiful craftsmanship.

One of my favourite characters I've ever played as in an RPG carried a sidesword and targe. Even though she was a multiclass warrior spellcaster, she was an absolute tank in melee combat. She once killed a man with a single flaming punch. I miss playing with her.

This is now one of my favorite shields.

Oh my god I can’t believe it took me so long to realise you were saying Glasgow I was about to search up the glass cow museum

I just love anything from the 16th-17th centuries, such an interesting period.

I like these dense details on the surface.

This is a beautiful shield Skall

Beautiful shield, Skall. Also a nice little informative video on a shield seen all over fantasy games since forever.

Someone, I believe my first wife, bought me almost exactly the same targe, except mine has a metal fore grip(leather wrapped) and no back strap or working on the leather. Many of the studs came out, as well, but that's after 20 years or something like that.

What a beautiful shield!

Beautiful shield 🛡

I love the beauty of the Celtic embroidery on it.

that's like... very heavy . omg i cant even. so pretty designed

Great to see a Scottish weapon being talked about. FYI Glasgow is pronounced "Glaz-go" rather than "Glass-gow"

What a beautiful shield.

5:00 This knight of Catarina expresses his deepest gratitude. I shall not forget this. Please, take this; a symbol of my appreciation. So scottish warriors used to parry bullets. That is pretty cool veteran stuff.

@blizzardgaming7070

2 жыл бұрын

Remember that image of a knight with a glock saying “parry this you filthy casual” we Scotsmen took that to heart.

@maximilianolimamoreira5002

2 жыл бұрын

@@blizzardgaming7070 I like that other famous crusader meme:" you talk madshit to someone at shooting distance", but I don't know where it came from.

Enjoyed this quite a bit old boy 🍻 Thanks for a look at a classic piece beautifully recreated😊 Cheers!

Re the musket ball... the black powder of the time was of varying quality and this coupled with the relative wetness of the highlands (where I live) often resulted in loads going bad and partially firing or just not at all.. so some of the shots would be much weaker than those with modern powders and controlled storage..

I want one so badly. Thanks for sharing this.

Ywah, sometimes I see your new vids on my feed, sometimes not. I just check the channel periodically to see if there's anything I missed. Really the only way at this point.

They also have a nice 50% fire damage reduction and a 30% explosive damage reduction.

@OverlordIntecris

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the addition of a charge meter to give extra critical damage to your attacks

@TheManofthecross

2 жыл бұрын

fails. :P

I have had times that new videos where nowhere to be seen, but surprisingly this one was right at the top

That's one gorgeous shield!

Dude, that's some serious bling! And I think Fandabi Dozi would approve of it =)

@LuxisAlukard

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottneil1187 You mean Fandabi Dozi? I was referring to youtuber, I had no idea it's phrase

That is the most beautiful shield I have ever seen.

I’ve been looking forward to this

Can’t wait for the next one!

I've recently been fascinated with Scottish weaponry. This video could not have come at a better time! Keep up the awesome quality!

Really a beautiful shield.

That thing is absolutely gorgeous!

The algorithm may not like your channel, but I certainly do

That's a beautiful shield! The quality is very impressive.

+2 to shield bash +1 to all Paladin skill levels. Sells for 45 gold.

@dario9962

2 жыл бұрын

Not to forget the +40 all res

@phucgiang395

2 жыл бұрын

+50% fire resistance +30% explosive resistance +Grants guaranteed Crit after charging at certain distance

@skoot2488

2 жыл бұрын

@@phucgiang395 chargin targe > spledid screen > tide turner

@johnsun3854

2 жыл бұрын

The studs actually introduce an RNG mechanic in the shield use.

That's a real work of art.

I don't think I've (intentionally) visited my KZread homepage in years. Straight to the subs, please!

Scot here. Always cool to see you look at Scottish weapons and military history

Gorgeous and super cool shield! Maybe an interview with the maker would be interesting?

I always catch your videos. I only use the feed when I run out of daily content from my subs!

Yes so iconic I didn't know it existed until now

The "w" in Glasgow is silent. It rhymes with "snow". Also Culloden is pronounced "cull -odd-in".

@Krytern

2 жыл бұрын

Glass-go is how it's pronounced. Unusual to hear that w xD

@ziggarillo

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Krytern Actually it's Glasgae. almost Glazgay but not quite, The English pronounce it Glaz Go or even Glarsgo

@Krytern

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziggarillo Go vs gae is more of an accent thing than correct or incorrect pronounciation.

@GVertus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krytern aye

@ziggarillo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krytern No, it's the way it is pronounced in Glasgow, it's the way a native Scots speaking Glaswegian pronounces the name of their city, its not an accent it's a language.

Gorgeous!

Thank you for this interesting and informative content I had no idea that shields were still valid at that stage of firearms development and tactics

gorgeous targe!

I have heard the comment about the arm straps being too tight from many different people whether they are looking at originals or modern replicas. This is deliberate. It has to be tight for it to stay on your arm when your hand is through the hand grip holding a dirk. And this configuration you have the potential for three points of attack - The sword blade, the targe spike, and the dirk blade.

Thank for another informative video 👍👍

I gotta get me one of these, it's very nice looking.

Thanks for uploading

That is a gorgeous targe!

That thing is beautiful!

Skal I'm excited to see that next video as I've long imagined a duel between unarmored Viking vs highland Scot. Viking has bigger center gripped shield & sword with little hand protection, Highland Scot has smaller, stouter arm gripped shield & sword with great hand protection. Just seems a fun what if matchup

@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottneil1187 you are correct...I think that was my auto correct lol I didn't even notice so thank you for the heads up!

@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottneil1187 ok I corrected it, again thank you

@riverraven7359

2 жыл бұрын

Given that Orkney and Shetland were in Scandinavian hands well into the medieval period some variation of that did happen. (Not a basket hilt sword, but with a cruciform oakshott type X-XII )

@Odwolf2

2 жыл бұрын

I think a neat pairing would be targe and smallsword. Like an 18th century version of rapier and rotella lol

@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145

2 жыл бұрын

@@riverraven7359 true...but I definitely want the basket hilt for my senario

I’m actually purchasing a similar but cheaper version of this shield this week. It’s for my wall! I have matching Dirk and Sgian-dubh to go with the Targe.

@juliantheapostate8295

2 жыл бұрын

Cool. If you wear a kilt with stockings, you can tuck your Sgian-dubh into your right stocking (on the outside). It's a little like the Sikh Kirpan, a ceremonial blade.

@ieuanhunt552

2 жыл бұрын

When I learned about the Sgian-dubh I made a mental note to be extra polite at Scottish weddings. You do not want to get on the wrong side of a dozen drunk Scots all of them armed

Very nice targe!

A very pretty shield.

Nice video man. That shield is a beauty

Ironically enough, this is the first time I've heard of, or seen this specific type of shield before.

@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149

2 жыл бұрын

It feels like a lot of fictional shields fall into this category on accident, but most often that's just because they make their roundshields too small. This is especially common in video games.

it looks beautiful

For me it's the best shield for fantasy, this thorn in the shield with a dash would be cool.

Im subscribed and barely get to see your vids.. Glad I checked on your channel. Great vid!

It doesn't need studs to prevent an edge cut from getting to the arm, plywood is very resistant to cutting. Even a Viking shield of that scale would prevent a cut to the center but Viking shields were intentionally thin edged to allow swords to bite into them. Your sword bites into the shield and then you no longer have control over the sword because it is stuck embedded into the enemies shield while their sword or axe is free. A shields main function is to defend against an enemies weapon, and trapping the weapon does that and also renders the weapon useless.

Had a feeling this video was coming

Thank you for not using clickbait!

never clicked a video so fast once i saw it , looking forward to it