One Of The Fastest Super Slim Small Form Factor Gaming PCs You Can Built Right Now!

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  • @ksmith86
    @ksmith8610 ай бұрын

    Nice little build....love the subtle rgb fan... looks real clean 👌

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag10 ай бұрын

    A very strong advantage of this case is the MATX support. Avoiding the ITX "Tax" might allow budget & SFF to meet somewhere in the middle. Plus the ventilation here looks excellent.

  • @MirelRC

    @MirelRC

    10 ай бұрын

    Now I have to get it. Awesome case, it looks like it is exactly what I was looking for.

  • @TheTastefulThickness

    @TheTastefulThickness

    10 ай бұрын

    There is no ITX tax..its just a myth in the youtuber world for some reason.

  • @greenprotag

    @greenprotag

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheTastefulThickness on average, compact and powerful GPUs, and ITX motherboards, and other support components ARE more expensive. Take for example the 4060 LP. It's $30-40 more expensive than a basic 4060. Most ITX motherboards are also significantly more expensive than their equivalent MATX boards. Occasionally, you'll find cheap ITX cases like this one for $70. However, if you look at the feature set and the cost, you could probably get just as much out of a $30-40 mid tower case with the only difference being the size. Smaller power supplies can be expensive too. Buying a 600w SFX or Flex ATX is more expensive than buying a simple ATX bronze or gold unit. There is no actual "tax" its just a way of saying building smaller there will be either an increase in cost or a loss in performance or both. Small and cheap? Likely lower performing. Small and powerful? Likely more expensive. This is just how it works.

  • @TheTastefulThickness

    @TheTastefulThickness

    10 ай бұрын

    @@greenprotag A good motherboard costs 220-350 bucks across the board. There is no real category of GPU's that are "compact and powerful" - i have no idea what you're talking about, thats not a category that exists. The 4060 is basically the only example you can even point to. Dont give me edge cases. Cases - you said it yourself, 70 dollar case. Lots of SFF cases fit a full size power supply anyway. A Lian Li SFX 750 watt is $115 bucks right now - the first name brand full size modular PSU at 750watts is 95 dollars. Its a MYTH.

  • @greenprotag

    @greenprotag

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheTastefulThickness Zero myth. You pointed out a price difference in PSU right there and +$10-20 per part adds up quickly. There is a "compact and powerful" category of GPUs. Look at the most powerful low profile GPU or "ITX" single fan GPU like the MSI Aero itx. The "Best" version of those cards of the past 4-5 generations have been more expensive AND rare. MSI Aero 3060 ti was nearly $1000 for a VERY long time, even when 3070 full size cards dropped below MSRP, because it was "best in slot" for the form factor. The same was true for the itx variant of the 2070 AND 1080 when they were "best". When you follow this hardware closely enough, you will realize there IS a cost increase. The smaller you go, the harder and more expensive it can get. Can you be more economical if you make compromises? Sure. A single fan 3060 doesn't really see a price increase. Used A2000s have been coming down in price now that they are no longer the most powerful in slot for size. If you get used or 2nd or 3rd string options the "tax" is elevated because there is very little cost increase on 2nd best and 3rd best cards.

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr10 ай бұрын

    Wow, that’s a cool build. Nice video!!

  • @OraOraOra
    @OraOraOra10 ай бұрын

    Very nice Build! That 4060 is so cute.😆 06:26 this scene looks so asthetic. I love the Controller and the Keyboard!

  • @VR00100
    @VR0010010 ай бұрын

    3:10 you say 5600x yet the benchmark for games show 5800x

  • @kazuazz5637

    @kazuazz5637

    10 ай бұрын

    It says Ryzen 5 5800x which makes no sense lol

  • @kopfschuss881

    @kopfschuss881

    5 ай бұрын

    Good call out. Box and close up of CPU show 5600x. Did he swap at some point?

  • @kopfschuss881

    @kopfschuss881

    5 ай бұрын

    Windows shows 5600x. odd

  • @tophat5128
    @tophat512810 ай бұрын

    Was literally waiting for this video ever since the last one!

  • @heirtothethrone000
    @heirtothethrone00010 ай бұрын

    Great build so I do hope companies start making some great cases for builds like this. I would love to see InWin make a larger version of the Chopin Pro or Max

  • @iflako88
    @iflako888 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the links in bio. Shipped all the way to Norway and about to build in this case with m-ATX B650 ASRock board along with Ryzen 5 7500F, and this amazingly small RTX 4060. Haven't build anything this small before, wish me luck xD

  • @highwaymen1237
    @highwaymen123710 ай бұрын

    Could you mention that the beginning or end of your videos with the estimated cost would be to build these PCs? Thank you.

  • @saufi89
    @saufi8910 ай бұрын

    Loved to see some workstation pc with this low profile rtx4060 with non bottleneck cpu

  • @acek1605
    @acek160510 ай бұрын

    See When I build a PC this would be something I would like to build... Thanks again 👍

  • @amagamingtv85
    @amagamingtv8510 ай бұрын

    Damn I love this build!

  • @AlexHusTech
    @AlexHusTech10 ай бұрын

    *Nice solid small PC*

  • @Milesprower2305
    @Milesprower23059 ай бұрын

    Some emulation tests would had been great to see. Thanks for the vid!

  • @niospartan
    @niospartan10 ай бұрын

    I have one of those Ali express itx ultra small cases that's great but the sandwich layout makes assembly a little involved as well as upgrades. This case looks great but the lack of low profile gpus makes these builds stuck to a handful of gpus

  • @marcuspercival7610
    @marcuspercival76108 ай бұрын

    Nice build! I run a DAN A4-sfx v4.1 with an InnoD 4070Ti and Ryzen 7 5800x3d. Only 4070Ti card within size limits for the DAN-sfx case…. It seriously moves pixels and all within fairly moderate power consumption and temps!

  • @LSRPer
    @LSRPer10 ай бұрын

    You should take a look at the "Dan Case A4", it's a 7,2 liter case, that supports regular sfx PSU, 2 slot GPU up to 295mm length and coolers up to 48mm.

  • @phillycheesetake
    @phillycheesetake10 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to the other case you have planned, any hints as to what it is?

  • @us7876
    @us787610 ай бұрын

    I'd put some extra 80mm low profile fans as intake/exhaust, but it's already pretty damn good for 7.5L!

  • @fjorddenierbear4832
    @fjorddenierbear483210 ай бұрын

    What a perfect ITX case. Plenty of room, no unnecessary 2.5 inch bays and such nonsense. It's only about 5 pounds, tho I'd prefer a super-light aluminum one for maximum portability.

  • @Noodlepunk
    @Noodlepunk10 ай бұрын

    It looks so cute!

  • @HitnRunTony
    @HitnRunTony10 ай бұрын

    What an awesome mini beast

  • @emrexis
    @emrexis10 ай бұрын

    Hi! do you have any instability problem with this motherboard? over at sff subreddit asus b550i has a well known compatibility problem with rtx 4000 series card.. some can be alleviate by choosing “high performance” mode on nvidia driver setting but it’ll cause idle power draw. How’s your experience?

  • @Silvest3r
    @Silvest3rАй бұрын

    Really nice build, ive been thinking to build this kind of compact gaming pc, might pair it with 24"" 1080p panel. 60fps ++ is enough for most of games, at least for me. Here in Europe local shops doesn't have much choice over small PC cases, so might need to order somewhere.. But yeah! really cool build! Hope I can build something similar soon.

  • @paulmanzueta3956
    @paulmanzueta39569 ай бұрын

    I am a really big fan of you. I would like to see another video about a Raspberry Pi5 gaming PC. Now I am really interested about having one but I’m not too good like you modding a PC.

  • @Fahrenheit38
    @Fahrenheit38Ай бұрын

    I know it's better to use a dedicated SFF case but I love when you stick these half height GPUs into office PCs

  • @Kinrian2797
    @Kinrian279710 ай бұрын

    Amazing Small ITX Build Its amazing seeing you build something nicely compact. I'm also running something similar. Velka 3 5800X3D 3060TI B550I SK Hynix M.2, Teamgroup Tforce 32gb ddr4 3600mhz cl14, L9A with duct mod, 600w Flex PSU with noctua fan mod. 5800X3D -30 Curve, 95w PPT, 60A TDC, 90A EDC With PBO2 Tuner Msi Aero 3060TI UV 1815mhz @850 MV With MSI afterburner Room Temp 72F Idle Temp: 50-52c CPU, 41C MB, 33C GPU 45C Gpu HS (Hwinfo64) Genshin Impact Highest Setting 4k DSR to 2k Nvidia Filter 60-65C CPU, 60-62C GPU Endwalker Benchmark 1080p High Desktop: 29019 107 Min, 193 Avg Frame 2K High Desktop: 19163 76 Min, 128 Avg

  • @CodyShell
    @CodyShell8 ай бұрын

    top tier build!

  • @stevenyxng
    @stevenyxng10 ай бұрын

    neat looking build! how is the fan noise, especially from the psu?

  • @brianclark4713
    @brianclark471310 ай бұрын

    Weird question but where can I locate music like what you use in your intro? I've listened to LoFi before but that's not it. Your videos are great. Thanks.

  • @scyence

    @scyence

    10 ай бұрын

    My guess is it’s a track from a royalty-free service like Epidemic Sound.

  • @coolunusual

    @coolunusual

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@scyencemost likely this

  • @brianclark4713

    @brianclark4713

    10 ай бұрын

    ok, I was curious because that intro music always brings me back to playing Guardian Legend on the NES as a kid. I'd love to have some of that music for an MP3.

  • @analid

    @analid

    10 ай бұрын

    Hit by Titus // and it's a KZread Library Song

  • @alex28896

    @alex28896

    10 ай бұрын

    Thats Through the Crystal by Jeremy Blake

  • @legart4507
    @legart450710 ай бұрын

    This exactly my form factor!

  • @OreLPoint
    @OreLPoint10 ай бұрын

    I would love to AM5 build like this with RTX 4060, looks great!

  • @AnonIllumi
    @AnonIllumi10 ай бұрын

    VERY NICE LITTLE SYSTEM

  • @rpratts9636
    @rpratts963610 ай бұрын

    I would love to see this setup in a smaller case setup plus to see the terminals between each case

  • @GoblinArmyInYourWalls

    @GoblinArmyInYourWalls

    9 ай бұрын

    There's a Velka 3 build for the 4060 lp

  • @jileel
    @jileel10 ай бұрын

    Thats clean.

  • @nsmilitia
    @nsmilitia10 ай бұрын

    Imagine if that panel was clear. Good build! I rather use this than any console!

  • @lyz1104
    @lyz11047 ай бұрын

    very good review

  • @dividion8102
    @dividion810210 ай бұрын

    I'd love to know which case you wanted to go with. I've been looking around for one that would fit these components myself.

  • @Ruiso7
    @Ruiso710 ай бұрын

    I'd probably not use that small 80mm fan if I were to use the extra 120mm on it. Great build though. That GPU looks sick, wish I could afford it.

  • @nokin345
    @nokin34510 ай бұрын

    such a huge case for such small components

  • @takakazushi6703
    @takakazushi670310 ай бұрын

    EXCELLENT VIDEO ...per normal ETA Prime reputation. YES !! Let's do another build that's even smaller! Under 4 Liter case possible ?? CONTINUE to elaborate on AIR cooling issues and viable SOLUTIONS. Be sure to FLAG if a cooler is not compatible with LIQUID METAL thermal paste. SHOW sound level measurements. SILENT is best. Always good to hear your comparisons, trade-offs, pros and cons for quality ITX motherboard options. Can't wait for your next video..

  • @korakkarok
    @korakkarok9 ай бұрын

    Please more 4060LP build 😢 its so satisfying to watch.

  • @greatwavefan397
    @greatwavefan39710 ай бұрын

    THIS CASE IS PERFECT! Where can I find more like it?

  • @VyznR
    @VyznR3 ай бұрын

    Hi. great video. I'm just wondering about one thing. Do you have the CPU cooling fan, and the large RGB one, mounted opposite each other? In the video it looks like they blow like this -> []

  • @Scotty24198424
    @Scotty2419842410 ай бұрын

    I bet if you put a couple of small fans the oppersite oend of the gpu as exhaust you would get even better temps

  • @SaperPl1
    @SaperPl110 ай бұрын

    I was waiting for this video, but the chassis feels a bit big, maybe because of the lack of direct comparison to other cases. With that said, I feel like I've seen a lot of low profile 2-slot cases with TFX psu like Inwin Chopin, but I guess I was wrong :|

  • @bfjrd
    @bfjrd10 ай бұрын

    beautiful!

  • @TheRellic
    @TheRellic10 ай бұрын

    The discount will be available until the end of August. It was posted one minute ago it’s September I think someone messed up the sponsor code or editing. Or even the script because how can a deal be available at the end of a month that already passed? 1:23

  • @brafya
    @brafya10 ай бұрын

    god damn even giving optimum a run for his money, amazing build!

  • @chromerims
    @chromerims10 ай бұрын

    Great vid 👍 Fyi to my ear, the recording of your voice was choppy in terms of speeds jaggering up and down. Little weird. Yours kindly.

  • @user-mm3sd2ry6k
    @user-mm3sd2ry6k2 ай бұрын

    For the size and performance it provides it's really amazing for a build that cost just a little over a 1000 dollars

  • @Xeonzs
    @XeonzsАй бұрын

    How is the fan setup in this build? I assumed your CPU fan was drawing from the board up through the heatsink (so blowing air from the sides, onto board, then out through the heatsink), but then you placed a 120 right above it saying you draw air in, so they're blowing air right into each other, the CPU fan blowing hot air into the incoming cold air from the 120. Doesn't seem like a good choice, unless both are pointing towards the mobo, in which case you're blowing cold air from the outside onto the mobo, but also the CPU heatsink's hot air straight back onto the mobo.

  • @MonsiourPotatoHead
    @MonsiourPotatoHead6 ай бұрын

    love this case.

  • @tyonde3973
    @tyonde397310 ай бұрын

    What is the smaller case that fits the 4060 LP ? Sadly the A02 from your 1650 build only fits GPUs up to 175mm.

  • @3azaar3
    @3azaar310 ай бұрын

    I wish there were more cases like this one, which don't require any riser cable to install the gpu Any recomendations on where I can find more cases like this one?

  • @The_Raven_
    @The_Raven_7 ай бұрын

    Man i love this build sell me this little bad boy❤❤❤

  • @maif3ng
    @maif3ng9 ай бұрын

    o.o I want to upgrade my gaming rig to that

  • @duswnsgh
    @duswnsgh10 ай бұрын

    Hello! Is there a template or something that you can share so the afterburner monitor output looks like yours?

  • @jercyshore
    @jercyshore10 ай бұрын

    i have a similar build with a 5800x3d. i just love it. getting 25k in firestrike

  • @PlayNeth
    @PlayNeth10 ай бұрын

    Are you considering reviewing the successor to the a2000? (The rtx 400 sff) that thing is an absolute beast and I'm curious to see its gaming performance but nobody has done it yet

  • @bagelbytes69420

    @bagelbytes69420

    10 ай бұрын

    Well, its $1500 bucks so that'd be why... You can get a 4090 for that coin and fit it in an ITX case with watercooling and have an insane advantage performance wise.

  • @PlayNeth

    @PlayNeth

    10 ай бұрын

    @@bagelbytes69420 💀💀💀

  • @tm_bunny_peludito5065
    @tm_bunny_peludito506510 ай бұрын

    What case do you recommend for this PC build that is smaller? Then the video

  • @L319HV
    @L319HV10 ай бұрын

    This is a great build. Love a good sff build but for me right now when it comes to price vs performance I'll still opt for a RX 6400 low profile aiming for 1080p anyway. Once the prices for these cards come down and other partners release low profile versions I'll definitely want to build something liek this in the future.

  • @Melenytas

    @Melenytas

    10 ай бұрын

    La tarjeta 1650 no ha bajado su precio, no creo que la 4060 baje de precio

  • @regularperson9297

    @regularperson9297

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Melenytas nvidia did say price drops were a thing of the past😂

  • @artic7030

    @artic7030

    9 ай бұрын

    The problem low profile rx 6400 is that only has 4GB of VRAM, and nowadays for a new budget but decent build you have to get at least 8GB of VRAM

  • @Tirry69
    @Tirry697 ай бұрын

    Now THIS is mini itx build

  • @adamgaming5693
    @adamgaming569310 ай бұрын

    tell me what would you choose: mini ITX vs mini PC, for me it's about drawing as little power as possible. I choose between MINISFORUM Venus NPB5 Core i5-13500H or Beelink SER7: Ryzen 7 7840HS, Or I'm creating a mini-ITX PC with a 13500 14-core processor with a Seasonc Platinum 650 power supply because I already bought one. I'm still wondering whether to go for a case like the one in your video or a smaller one, e.g. InWin Chopin, but everything will heat up there, and e.g. a case like Thermaltake Core, the temperatures will look better but it's bigger. Let me know what you think and which one is better to choose for lower power consumption. The PC will be mainly used for office work, but it will run 24 hours a day, so electricity is important to me. thank you

  • @Darkened_Sol
    @Darkened_Sol10 ай бұрын

    What's the max power draw from the PCI slot of that motherboard? I was thinking about putting this GPU in an old XE2 Optiplex but I think the max power draw is 75W. Currently has a 1650 LP in it.

  • @WOLF_ST0N3
    @WOLF_ST0N310 ай бұрын

    How did you install the 2nd fan? I don't see any screws, mind telling me how? Might do a build lie this for my mother because she likes all in ones cuz there is no big pc case, so I was thining of doing a sff pc for her.

  • @schneeraizor7020
    @schneeraizor702010 ай бұрын

    finally a low profile gpu i need to buy

  • @danielcarey3645
    @danielcarey364510 ай бұрын

    I'm confused. You said you used a 5600x and showed one, but then during the gameplay footage, it says 5800x. Was something messed up in the software, or did you do a swap at some point?

  • @Slay3rOne
    @Slay3rOne10 ай бұрын

    Really nice build! Was really hoping to see power consumption at the wall with that setup. I might be interested in doing something similar, I have a 5700G or a 3700X laying around, I can use either one of those two. And I do have a HDPlex GaN 250W PSU as well I can use, which is why I'm really interested by the real power numbers at the wall.

  • @richardblake5533

    @richardblake5533

    10 ай бұрын

    Do you think a 5800x is fine for this motherboard.?

  • @Slay3rOne

    @Slay3rOne

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@richardblake5533 You mean the Asus B550-I? My main PC is a B550-I with a 5900X and a RTX3080, all watercooled in a Meshlicious. This board will be perfectly fine, it will handle a 5950X no problem even overclocked, it's a great AM4 Mini-ITX board.

  • @benjiro8793

    @benjiro8793

    10 ай бұрын

    Probably around 60W ... 5600X + B550 will idle around 40W, 4060 is around 20W... Not counting inefficiency of that PSU. That 5700G+ MB will idle around 20W ( 4750G here ) from the wall.

  • @Skip2baloo
    @Skip2baloo10 ай бұрын

    Nice build. I've build a sff setup with an i5 13400f on an ASRock H610 with 32gb RAM, a MSI RTX 4070 Ventus 2x and a Corsair SF450. All in a Dan Case A4 SFX v4.1. Runs great but need to some Noctuas at the bottom.

  • @izzatti7446

    @izzatti7446

    10 ай бұрын

    Wait? 450w psu? 4070 and 13400f? How? By undervolting it or just running it at stock configuration?

  • @Griefhand

    @Griefhand

    10 ай бұрын

    @@izzatti7446 ive got the same rig lol but in a Ncase m1. 13400f draw around 65w at most and the gpu not even 200w. Plenty of headroom even without undervolting

  • @izzatti7446

    @izzatti7446

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Griefhand damn, btw thanks for the info

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa872610 ай бұрын

    Nice size

  • @michaelcraig1425
    @michaelcraig142510 ай бұрын

    How did you get the rgb fan to sit there 🤔 love the build might be doing something like this soon

  • @TheTastefulThickness
    @TheTastefulThickness10 ай бұрын

    Silverstone does a version of this case. LTT even did a build with it. Has usb-c and even an optical drive bay which i think is cool.

  • @reviewercentral7857
    @reviewercentral785710 ай бұрын

    It would've been so cool if the case had a glass side panel, the build looks dope

  • @ResidentWeevil2077

    @ResidentWeevil2077

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't like glass; you drop it, there goes your side panel.

  • @blaiddfumbler

    @blaiddfumbler

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ResidentWeevil2077 I mean at the very least it should be an add-on you choose to buy separately 🤷 because you'll have a metal side panel after you break your glass side panel.

  • @humorss
    @humorss10 ай бұрын

    amazing how much room the small case still have with all the hardware. Perhaps one should not chase the flagships, mid range hardware can sufficiently run mostly anything. with much lower power and nvh. sweet package.

  • @monstercameron
    @monstercameron10 ай бұрын

    ETA Prime, can you benchmark DDR-5 7000+ on AMD Ryzen 7800x3d with a CPU and heavy igp overclock? As a follow up to your ryzen 7000 igp testing.

  • @TheGHOST4561
    @TheGHOST456110 ай бұрын

    I would love to get one of these small builds , my current set up is nearly 10 years old lol just can't make up my mind which way to go

  • @ionamygdalon2263
    @ionamygdalon226310 ай бұрын

    How well can the Low Profile 4060 handle emulation? Can it handle the Switch version of RDR at 4K?

  • @foreskinracer8753
    @foreskinracer875310 ай бұрын

    Very cool

  • @brt200_
    @brt200_10 ай бұрын

    Could this build be used for video editing? Sorry for noob question, I wanted to have a small compact pc that can do both.

  • @shadow19121
    @shadow1912110 ай бұрын

    What was the case you're waiting for? I'm always looking into sff cases.

  • @MohammedMohammed-bq9jv
    @MohammedMohammed-bq9jv10 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video on the best mini pc or best small form factor pc to run VR ..

  • @tacobellife
    @tacobellife10 ай бұрын

    Do you think the case would fit a Palit StormX GeForce RTX 4060 Ti

  • @hwi7114
    @hwi711410 ай бұрын

    I have a 4070 in a 4.9L case, definitely need to get that low profile 4060 in a smaller case to take advantage of the size.

  • @adeverel

    @adeverel

    10 ай бұрын

    What case?

  • @hwi7114

    @hwi7114

    10 ай бұрын

    @@adeverel Velka 5

  • @_AmericanDad_
    @_AmericanDad_10 ай бұрын

    More PC builds!

  • @hatuandung531
    @hatuandung53110 ай бұрын

    what CPU need to pair with 4060 low profile to doesnt have bottleneck

  • @ivanohlebec8352
    @ivanohlebec83524 ай бұрын

    Will that GPU fit into an A09 pc case? You made a video about it around a year and a half ago

  • @eugenekun
    @eugenekun10 ай бұрын

    Liked instantly

  • @sixilvo2264
    @sixilvo226410 ай бұрын

    i would love it if u can maybe try some competetive games like Warone 2.0 or cs2 maybe even apex and why not add fortnite!

  • @JakeTaco83
    @JakeTaco839 ай бұрын

    Oooh. I want that case. Just bought one for about the same price that Im not super happy with. Does this fit a SFX psu and M-atx mobo?

  • @illustrate-now6548
    @illustrate-now65485 ай бұрын

    could you tell, which case you wanted to use instead?

  • @bisaKOL23
    @bisaKOL239 ай бұрын

    What is the keyboard u feature on the cover photo of the video? Thanks

  • @raze0ver
    @raze0ver3 ай бұрын

    if they move the PSU to the right side vertially, then you can fit a full height dual fan GPU vertially at the bottom :)

  • @nabithshahid7309
    @nabithshahid730910 ай бұрын

    Please make a more detailed review on that power supply.

  • @spitfire20122000
    @spitfire2012200010 ай бұрын

    That GPU is so cute 😍😍😍😍

  • @utubebroadcastme
    @utubebroadcastme10 ай бұрын

    say I want to bump the GPU to a 4070ti, what would you change about this build ?

  • @marcoescamilla8856
    @marcoescamilla88569 ай бұрын

    @etaprime I got seasonic 1U 300w 80plus gold. Will this work with the rtx 4060 low profile, ryzen 5 3600XT, 32gb ddr4, and 2tb nvme ssd?

  • @kev1959in
    @kev1959in10 ай бұрын

    How was cooler top fan mounted?

  • @camronrubin8599
    @camronrubin859910 ай бұрын

    True console killer 😎

  • @el_tate
    @el_tate8 ай бұрын

    would be better to use a Velka5 or Velka3 case for this configuration?

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