So this turned out way better than expected, if you want to see anything else running in this budget rig let me know

@kimo9ff

Жыл бұрын

elden ring or hogwarts legacy would be nice

@MrRabbydabbydoo

Жыл бұрын

single slot 6400 lp plz

@PieStudios

Жыл бұрын

Does this have a video encoder?

@alexmcdowell8868

Жыл бұрын

ps3 resistance the fall of man

@mikehill9834

Жыл бұрын

Emulation?

Excellent combo. This is honestly my favorite kind of PC. $200-300, Used, amazing value, plays basically anything.

@Gordond2009

Жыл бұрын

where are we getting these gpu. The cheapest 6gb a2000 i can find in canada is $700

@PaulTeogalbo

Жыл бұрын

@@Gordond2009 ebay

@Samy-te3hu

Жыл бұрын

@@theinktician at that point what

@enriquedossantos3283

Жыл бұрын

at that point just get a 30 series card, i think he meant

@mikeymaiku

Жыл бұрын

@@enriquedossantos3283 still waiting on that 30 series LP card....

This is what I have been dreaming of for years, a small form desktop PC with actual RTX discrete graphics!

I love builds like these. It's cool because you never expect an HP SFF office PC to play Cyberpunk at over 60 FPS. Something I've always wanted to do is make a build like this, but put a custom loop in it.

@dylanherron3963

Жыл бұрын

Snoozy little sleeper, sleepers are the best

@guily6669

Жыл бұрын

custom loop? That would be pricier than the whole build and totally pointless cause the 7700 sadly has the multiplier locked, if it was the 7700K, then delidding and going extreme cooling for max OC it would still be a fine PC though it's still very far from catching a much weaker 13th gen Intel I3 which is just massively better and with much less wattage than a full OC 7700K😕

@dylanherron3963

Жыл бұрын

@@guily6669 Dude, if you look at this build and think "it would only be worth it if the 7700 was unlocked and de-lidded with liquid metal" than man, this might not be the form factor for you. (or the source PC for you... it's a used factory OEM office PC) A sleeper is entirely for aesthetic, spending money on unexpected internals is literally the entire point.

@guily6669

Жыл бұрын

@@dylanherron3963 but still what's the point of a custom Waterloop on something that will never need it and won't make a difference... I thought a sleeper is supposed to be "something" that is crazy high performance hidden\disguised as something looking so much worse. Also even if this PC had a 7700K would still be a pretty normal thing cause there have always been both I5\I7 K on a bit more expensive office PCs and it's not like even a fully OC one will be much of a "sleeper" PC cause it can't even get close to some of the worse current intel 13th gen I3 on a even uglier office PC case LOL... In fact this won't even get close to the current latest APU's like AMD Ryzen 6800U that go in handheld form factor at least in CPU performance... Ps: what I mean is the custom water cooler should be used on really hot, high wattage chips or for going maximum OC which is exactly the point of a unlocked CPU.

@TacticalPower88

Жыл бұрын

Thats kinda redundant lol

these are the type of builds i enjoy seeing, thanks for posting

Great video! I love it when people bring new life to old hardware. The FPS numbers are actually impressive.

@guily6669

Жыл бұрын

It's totally normal cause it's mostly GPU power in there... at least for 1080P a lot of games can't even push that GPU to the max, like having 60% use only on some games because of lack of CPU+ram combo 😕 The problem of such builds are always the 1% lows and micro stuttering which might get annoying, the avg FPS should always be fine cause most games don't really push physics to the next level for almost a decade sadly...

I picked up a G3 a couple months ago and dropped an i7-7700k I had and a Zotac gt1030 in it and even that configuration is snappy and good for lower spec gaming. I've been really impressed. Recently found that these were made in a tower form factor as well which I believe would accommodate a full height card.

@bradleycooper5436

5 ай бұрын

If you get creative you can make room for a full size card

@warfarenotwarfair5655

3 күн бұрын

Useless build, you could have just bought a Ryzen apu instead of a garbage 1030 🤣

Building myself RTX A2000 4.1L build. Very impressed with its size

YES! I have this exact same setup and it is running amazing!!!

Would definitely like to see higher end emulation. Seems like it would be a great rig to put in an Arcade cabinet if it can handle most emulation software.

@RejectedGalaxy

Жыл бұрын

My PC i've been using for around 6 years now is kinda similar to this one actually. I have the exact same CPU, my GTX 1070 was only slightly better than this one (I have a 2060S now), I didn't even put my emulators on my m.2 I put them on my hard drive, the only upgrade I can see here is that I have 16GB of DDR4 instead of 8. Every emulator runs perfect including RPCS3, Xenia, and Yuzu. So if the PC runs like mine does I can see it handling emulation no problem.

@RAWestover

Жыл бұрын

@@RejectedGalaxy I'm looking to upgrade my rig specifically for RPCS3. I was leaning more towards an i7 8700 for the higher core count. Does the 7700 have issues with any games?

@FaenzaClausen-ec5kb

Жыл бұрын

@@RAWestover tbh I still think that cpu is too old-slow for higher end emulation. I have a 7700 and it´s not great, then again I also only have a gtx1050

My daughter is using a HP Prodesk with a i5-9500, 16gb ram and a Rx 6400. I'm using an Acer Aspire xc-1660g with an i3-10105, 32gb of ram and an RTX a2000. Both work great for the budget.

If you want a PC like this but want to be able to put a bigger graphics card into it for more performance or to save costs, I'd recommend going for the mini tower version, it is bigger but it's about the same price as the SFF version but it's still very sleek at least to me

@BaneGamesOfficial

Жыл бұрын

Really depends If they come with a pcie cable on the power supply or not, most don't so thats why this card is a good option.

@lavadora8219

Жыл бұрын

I recommend a dell precision tower, those pc are gigantic

@JJJJ-vn1ix

Жыл бұрын

You can also go with a nr200 with a matx mobo (gotta check that it fits vertically) then put a atx psu inside.

@zk0rned

Жыл бұрын

@@BaneGamesOfficial There are higher bracket GPUs that don't need PCIE connectors that would fit in a mini tower but definitely wouldn't fit in this system because of the GPU being too tall

@zk0rned

Жыл бұрын

@@lavadora8219 Lol dude that reminds me of when I built a gaming PC a couple years ago, I got a T7500 Dell Precision that thing was beyond massive

I picked up a Gen4 with an i7-8700. Thanks for the inspiration!

I've had the exact same build for the last 6 months. It is really a decent setup. Great video!!

@MrKherman84

Жыл бұрын

Do you have problems with temps being high? I have one and it just seems to run hot. Wondering what changes if any you made to address yours.

Thank you for this video. I waited this video showing how an sff pc with that rtx a2000 would perform in games.

Nice to see some low cost sff alternatives to the optiplexes (of which I already have two!)

Just found your channel. Definitely love your content. Keep it up! Subbed

We had a lot of these at work. We had a rash of them with motherboard issues, but likely it it's made it through a few years and onto the second-hand market those have been weeded out.

ETA Prime, what a coincidence, i just bought one of these like a month a go, but did not get it until like 2 weeks ago! This has never happened before, where you are reviewing a device that I also just purchased! I already have an i7-7700 cpu and two other mother boards! When I finish my set-up, I will send you pics and specs to get your opinion and suggestions to make my little ultimate gaming set-up even better! Keep up the good work!! 😎🔥❤️💯💰🌎📱💻

Thanks, I can't believe I will be able to give my old PC a second wind by just changing the GPU, I was about to give up on it and wait until the end of the year to get another one.

i really like your small form factor builds.

If I go ahead and build one of these, I think I'll wait for the low profile bracket to turn up before buying the rest, just in case there is anything wrong with the GPU or computer! Thank you for uploading this info and sharing your knowledge!

With over 150,000 tech workers TERMINATED so far this year, eBay should have lots and lots of late model PCs to choose from.

@dlewis9760

Жыл бұрын

One can hope. That's a neutral statement by the way. The stuff on Ebay now, is from business upgrades or business reductions in force. The stuff will be sold, whether you think the reasons why are good or bad. I bought a used SteelCase Office chair from an outfit had a warehouse that looked like the one in one of the Indiana Jones movies. It was huge, full of used office furniture.

I just got a a2000 from the exact link you have in this video. It came from Virginia, and it came with the high profile GPU bracket, and the low profile GPU bracket! I had a low profile gpu bracket 3d printed from a family member, and didn't even have to use it!

That A2000 is insane! Dude the performance out of this is incredible. 😮😅

When you get that low profile bracket in, make sure you do a video on how to install it.

Hey ETA! Wondering if you'd do a video on how you benchmark a system and possibly setup afterburner. Maybe it's more simple than worth a video. But I love what this channel does. I want to put together a list of video cards available that offer the best bang for the $$ that are low profile for unique builds. Maybe you have all of this. Anyways, this channel is addictive!

I have the i5 7500 version hooked up to my 32" wide-screen Sony Trinitron CRT TV. Absolutely love it, run all my emulators @ 240p with it. Also watching movies on it is awesome. Great little machines.

@HunterTinsley

Жыл бұрын

What do you output to the CRT? Mini display to scart?

@nedfitzgerald584

Жыл бұрын

@@HunterTinsley Ultimate Scart adapter. VGA to Scart, essentially, then a Radeon 5450 running CRT emudriver. A bit of a pain to set up but extremely worth it. 15khz 240p Retroarch is truly awesome.

Would love to see a full emulation video on this. 👍

This is pure genius!

I would like to see how this would perform with an OEM Mini PC using an eGPU dock. It would be perfect for a mini PC build.

Traditional vacuums can create static discharge while cleaning a PC. If you have a PC that’s needs vacuuming , make sure the vacuum is specifically designed for computers as they have an anti-static design.

@seebarry4068

Жыл бұрын

I got a little attachment with a hundred little flexi-tubes. Attaches straight to the pipe. Cheaper than air cans.

😱😱😱😱😱 I was asking for this!! Thx 🙇 Edit: I have a project planned for this case 😍 Gonna turn it into an amazing console/pc/htpc 😁 with BigBox as opening!

Where did you order the bracket from, just curious. Also awesome video, planning building on of these for the living room for some decent gaming!

i like the temperatures, this rtx is working on in such a small box

i had to hop on the a2000 before it got crazy overpriced. this was the successor to the 1650 i was looking for!

Just bought em both to power my pinball setup, cheaper than the mini PCs I was looking at, and way more capable!

The PNY T600 4G is also an alternative. Not as powerful, but under $300 new. I used one with an Acer Aspire i5-4460, and had great performance.

@HunterTinsley

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm using with my old HP G2 i5 4590. Plays Hogwarts just fine.

Awesome video! Lets see how this does with high end emulation.

I love your LowBudget Gaming PC's❤️

Great kit!!, where did you find that moving background? It looks great

Man I swear I was just looking at one of that exact model of pc used at my local State Surplus property warehouse. They had a whole pallet of the things for thirty bucks each. Honestly as a carrier for a gpu you can't beat them.

You mention both an upgraded power supply and a source for the low profile bracket for the GPU. Can you provide links for those, please? Honestly, I am going to be looking for at the MTs as well. You can be more flexible in terms of graphics cards. I have a couple of 2060s laying around so this is one way I might go. But this would be a great little LINUX box as well.

Hi-Fi Rush looks so amazing and fun!!!!!!!! Gotta pick it up ASAP!!

Its nice to see a GPU like the RTX A2000 be available for so cheap. Because this is an entry level workstation card (like the Quadro cards). It is a little slow, but it's so inexpensive, I would rather have this than RTX 3060 in my Video editing rig, Since it is much more optimised for that work. Honestly, with this card, you can make a rather pocket friendly and super reliable workstation for video editing and VFX. It won't be fast, but it would be more stable and VFX/ editing softwares would be more stable

If you do go with the Lenovo ThinkCentre M92p or M93p SFF instead they come with a 240watt PSU. FYI I have 3 of them.

The performance of the A2000 for the price is amazing!

Great review. Can you please provide links for the power supply and bracket.

there's even a single slot version of that card which would of course fit in even more cases. there's also a 12 gb model becasue these were originally sold as professonal cards

I like it. But the mini pcs have stolen my heart lols

I think I’m going to get the a2000 for my vpin cab. I use a sff computer that sits under my cabinet perfectly.

my exact rig thnks so much

I just got a 705 G4 based off an earlier video. Please make a video about the risks and what to check on these used pc. My first attempt had wet dirt in it, so they tried washing it out and didn't even remove the dirt so I could identify before it shorted. Second one ripped out the wifi chip and cabling.... Along with switching a good ssd for a cheapo. Also many of the advertised 2400ge chips are swapped for a 2400g which is a mixed bag of more performance for more heat. Lastly, I saw some videos where your performance was only around 7000 night raid, but on the same pc you would get nearly 13000 just by switching to dual channel memory which is cheap.

Would love to see a Batocera emulation build video on this. Xbox and PS2 ???

I don't suggest the Dell SFF systems past the xx10 series since they put the x16 slot right next to the PSU, so the A2000 wouldn't fit. HP has some of the best SFF systems and the Z240 is a little better option than this 800 G3 if you can find it about the same price since it has a better PSU, and I think they look a bot better too. And from the looks of it, that 7700 needs a delid.

@boxfan6656

Жыл бұрын

I ran into this problem with the Optiplex 7060 and 5060 and also the HP Prodesk 600 G4. There's only a single full sized x16 slot and it can only fit a single width card due to the position of the PS. They started to do this with the 8th gen Intel SFF cases - which is one gen later than the PC in the video. It does work if the PS is taken out of the case, with a little bending of the metal and using no bracket whatsover.

that a2000 is really impressive. i was thinking a 1660 ti for the price would be better but the a2000 pretty much beats its out, call me pleasantly surprised

@SirSethery

Жыл бұрын

Basically a 3050 at half the power consumption. Just shows how efficient Ampere can be with top binned parts.

@AlteredCarbons

Жыл бұрын

@@SirSethery yeah. honestly i might get one just for a build like above for a bedroom pc for mostly emulation level's and some cultured video's

@SirSethery

Жыл бұрын

@@AlteredCarbons I’ve been tempted to stuff an A2000 into an NFC S4T build, but I’m not sure if things like Dolby/DTS audio or HDMI VRR are possible through DP adapters (both would be nice to have for a living room/HTPC). I found a cable that claims to support DP FreeSync to HDMI VRR conversion, but I have yet to buy or test it

@Nor_Bee

Жыл бұрын

And if You let MSI afterburner to test it with the overclocking scanner (takes around half an hour) it will squeeze out 5-6% more performance in the factory power envelope. You save it to a profile and just load it when You need a bit more performance 😉

@AlteredCarbons

Жыл бұрын

@@Nor_Bee thats what i did for my 1660 ti heh, lasted through the covid crisis. i just upgraded to a 6700 xt. setup in undervolt and over clock. things a beast. i honestly dont like nvidia's price gouging so i let them know with my wallet this time

ETA Prime, if you'd like to know how to keep the ram nice and cool, you'll have to remove the plastic shroud on the CPU.

Pretty much the same machine with GT 1030. The 7700 are known for running very hot. But still able to play some RCPS3 games.

very good PC and i do like this low profile GPU ❤️

just did a g4 build with an 8500 and an rx 6400. been playing everything i throw a it like a champ

I also bought the same A2000 GPU. Eventhough mine have the high bracket....it also came with an extra low bracket. I just change it in order to fit in my Optiplex 7040

Did you overcloock gpu, can you tell me what software used ? Also like those shifting wallpapers in the vids

Great for music production

I found a Dell 3880 mini atx 10th Gen i3, stock at a thrift store, out of box it had a 200w power supply with no 6 or 8 pin GPU dongle so I did some digging and found a factory fit Dell 500w power supply with a 6/8 pin and slipped it in there to add a dedicated GPU. I added a m.2 SSD, 16gb 3200 DDR4 and a RX 5600. It runs rather well, does 1080p like a boss and even some games do well at 1440p. Love tuning these little machines like this I have a pair of mini HP Slim 260-p026 that I maxed out and added low profile RX 550 4GB cards and they do rather well for a Roblox/Minecraft box for my youngest kiddo.

Would love to see this SFF beast run emulation :D

I have made a hard turn in my gaming preferences recently. Instead of going for the best of the best all of the time, I have favored performance/watt. My main rig is a 13700k, 64GB RAM, and a 4080. My watt meter says my system takes 710 watts at the max, I can only assume that is a chunk of my electric bill. When you said this system takes 180 watts, that was an uppercut because my average load while in game on my 4080 alone is in the 250-ish watt range with a peak max that I have seen of 300. I am ready to take a slight downgrade in performance for massive power savings.

What is emulation performance on this like? Could it run switch games using yuzu with 2/3players at 1080p 60fps well?

I rock the exact same setup, but with 12gb vram a2000.. 😊

Love that controller

Can you please tell us where you got that wallpaper?! Looks amazing

I have one with a i5-7700. Use it for Jellyfin. Works very well, so far (only had it a week now). I'm kinda hooked on these small systems. Supposedly there is a 400watt psu, from HP, that'll fit in this system. I can't find one though.

What’s funny is this is what the postal service uses and we are currently upgrading to laptops. There will be thousands of these up for resale any time man. The postal service has them with 16 or 32 gb of ram depending on the model we have.

Good video. Question I have only is, you said you installed Windows 11 Pro, with no TPM 2.0? Will it affect the Windows updates for it later since no TPM 2.0 support?

How much 1080 P emulation could this handle, and could you show some emulation on a standard 50+ inch TV? If I'm not alone, I'm looking for something that would allow my kids to play all the retro and most of the newer console games on their TV. Seeing what 1 of your emulation station builds would look on a regular 1080p big screen TV would really help to show what these are capable of in the real world. Thanks again for all the great videos I've learned a lot !

Tip: I use an electric airmattress pump to dust out my PC. Those are cheap, easy to get and don't run out of air. Best way to do it without speninding much IMO.

Where did you order the LP brackets? Could you please provide a link? Thanks.

Great content, what about the noise on idle and office application on this machine? Does the a2000 go on Zero fan mode?

Damn nice. It really looks like a console (especially Xbox)

Makes me want to build one too 😬😃

I picked up the EliteDesk 800 G3 i7-6700 and threw in a GTX 1650 low profile. That's my kids gaming PC. They got a boot drive upgrade to NVME from my old Gen 3 and 2x8gb ddr4 3200 (i know it can't use it at that speed) ram that I upgraded

Playnite set to boot up in fullscreen mode with Windows, the 8th gen variant of this PC and the A2000 combo, hooked up to a 75" 4k TV at the living room with all games utilizing fsr and dlss. That's the way.

CUK is now including the low profile bracket with the GPU. I ordered 2. One problem is these don't fit in the SFF cases of either Dell or HP for 8th Intel gen or later - I tried with both a Dell Optiplex 7060 and 5060 and also HP Prodesk 600 G4. There's only a single slot space between the full sized slot and the PS. They will work if the PS is removed from the case and operated from the outside.

What is that dynamic desktop wallpaper you have?

A word of caution on these A2000s. I bought from the Amazon link in one of your original A2000 videos and while it wasn't completely DOA, it was clearly defective and had to be returned.

@HunterTinsley

Жыл бұрын

Yea there's obviously a reason they're so cheap. A2000s do NOT sell for $250.

@theinktician

Жыл бұрын

mine worked great, but not everyones experience is the same. Heed dc's words. Not everyone gets lucky. If you're buying one, buy one that has a warranty attached, or one that is used by a person on ebay (i know that sounds weird, but those have been used recently in real-world environments rather than a "quality check")

i just got into this , the whole budeget gaming pc from office thing, and i gotta say sff rigs are a delicate balance to get anything, of note gpu wise, i didnt even know low profile gpus were a thing until i bought a 5040 optiplex sff and boy have I done alot of googling, i finally decided on a SWFT 105 Radeon rx 6400 yall think it will work?

Yo I love those kind of videos, sadly again in germany prices starts at 251 €... I wanted to build such a small form-factor for only emulations xD.

Waiting for an AMD 7400 to launch soon. I got the 705 G5 SFF with 3400G atm.

Thank You❤ Bro but I have a pro desk with i5 6500T will any low profile work with it? Also I am not getting lp cards near me,should I build i5 4th gen + 1660Super pc for gaming (wwe 2k23,24 and Gta 5)

I had this PC with 8th gen i5 and rx6400 low profile. It was struggling to play things at 1080p low/med settings so I sold the GPU. Glad to know there's a more powerful low profile GPU out there!

@strawberrysherbet9679

Жыл бұрын

T-1000 is pretty decent too lmao. Can run forspoken at 20 fps lol and Warzone 2 at ultra settings no lag.

@riseabove3082

Жыл бұрын

rx6400 is known to be a sh*t gpu. Like avoid like the plague. an rx5500 is better than an rx6400. or get an rx6500. Anything but the rx6400.

I got one for HTPC and some light gaming in the Living Room!!

The problem is really a lot of games the GPU is being used a bit over half only at 1080P, but with UE5 upcoming games, that might change fast anyway 😁

Don't use vacuums. Compressor at low pressure or blower generate less static.

I've got this laptop and is working fine. I bought a mini PC , wireless keyboard, mouse . All unopened in the corner of the room. Although the laptop is good but you never know. Well the reason I'm posting is I haven't had a " desktop " computer since CRT days. I watch a lot of videos about " modern " monitors. I know enough that I want a 24" no need for a bigger one. Plus a very good viewing angle Then a middle of the road for everything else would be good for me. Do you have any suggestions on monitors ? Where do I look for help or do you trust someone over others with information I'm looking for?

As other's have mentioned I would love to see higher end emulation on here.

@hereis_Tiff

Жыл бұрын

It'll perform very well. It's granted that if that PC can run any modern triple A game like Spider Man: Miles Morades, it can definitely play any higher end emulator with great performance results.

Yeah, I wish I had known before hand but ETA said you could use a Dell SFF optiplex but the 7050 I bought will not fit the RTXA2000 so I'm left with either getting a new case and moving all the components over or getting an HP.

I'm looking to build a PC to stream to Twitch from my Series S instead of using Lightstream. Would this build be something that could handle that? Any input would be helpful. Thanks so much, Neon.

my a2000 actually came with the low profile bracket so that's lucky

thats the pcs my school uses in the pc room on 1st floor 2nd floor uses a older i5 4th gen and and the 3rd pc room on 2nd floor has 12th gen i5 just like me now. I have found a windows 10 pro retail key for just 10 euros but that site is nice.

I legit have this same lan pc. wild

Hi! Could you make a video where you tell us the most interesting Versions of Lenovo Thinkcentre, HP Prodesk, HP Elitedesk, HP Optiplex. I think this would be very helpful 🙂