I think Brian Cox is closer to how a real psychopathic killer is in reality. I love Anthony Hopkins in his multiple Hannibal Lecter roles, but to me he always felt very gothic, almost Hammer Horror, a contemporary Count Dracula.

@jabine59

2 жыл бұрын

About as scary as Count Chocula....

@casesoutherland4175

Жыл бұрын

As much as I love Anthony Hopkins, Brian Cox is so uncomfortable to be around, especially when he stares at Will!!

You forgot to compare the MUSIC. For me the music in Manhunter is a strong character in itself. It creates a certain eerie "feel" throughout the movie.

@Seven_Leaf

5 ай бұрын

I thought that In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was silly.

@Samfan4Films777

3 ай бұрын

@@Seven_Leaf no, the song has a feeling of genius and insanity. It fits the scene so well.

@casesoutherland4175

Ай бұрын

The music during the opening with the killer sneaking into the Leeds house gives me chills every time!

I buy Brian Cox as a psychiatric professional more-so than Hopkins. Brian's portrayal is so nuanced, snarky and intelligent you could actually imagine talking to him where Anthony is much more overtly creepy and sinister. Brian's Hannibal doesn't have to prove how much smarter he is he just does it. Brian is the psychotic psychiatrist and Anthony's is the Bond villain.

@TheEternalOuroboros

Жыл бұрын

What's your analysis of Mikkelsen's?

@zaxbitterzen2178

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEternalOuroboros much more megalomaniac like a Bond villain of which Mads actually was lol

@TheEternalOuroboros

Жыл бұрын

@@zaxbitterzen2178 Lol, thanks for your insight mate

I've come to really appreciate Brian Cox's performance - there's something to be said for playing "just" a serial killing genius cannibal, without needing to mythologize him into something superhuman.

@tonymarshall3978

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. You could argue both performances represent different acting styles. Hopkins based his performance on fictional characters like Dracula whilst Cox based his on actual Scottish serial killers he had seen in the news. Difference between traditional acting and modern acting

@DraculaCronqvist

5 жыл бұрын

Which is why I actually like Cox' performance more. Because he plays a Serial Killer. Not that Hopkins did a bad job, not at all. But he makes Hannibal mysterious and, in doing so, even somewhat likeable. He overacts to a very delightful degree and gives Hannibal a certain charme... But true Serial Killers do not have that. Real Life Serial Killers are horrendous people with no morals to speak of, and are abhorrent, disgusting pieces of trash. Thus, it is not a good idea to give Hannibal such a mysterious and somewhat likeable quality - it humanizes people that do not deserve to be humanized. I mean, this is why we have such abhorrent shows as Dexter, a show so devoid of morality that they try to tell us "he only kills the bad guys".

@ginogatash4030

5 жыл бұрын

@@DraculaCronqvist i disagree on that, true real life serial killers are awful people, but it's common among psychopaths to have a strong charisma, it's how they manipulate people, so it only makes sense that Hopkins' Hannibal would have somewhat of a twisted charm to him, Cox's Hannibal is quite intriguing too. we aren't afraid to "like" hannibal because he's a fictional character, but people like him in real life can be really persuasive.

@aaronking5640

4 жыл бұрын

@Alex Ziemba yep it's one of the greatest shows ever, I think mads mikkelsons' portrayal of hannibal is the best

@kevinmorrice

3 жыл бұрын

although i love how cox comes across as a real psychopath, hopkins refined touch is scarier just because hes such a high society gentleman who begins by killing a musician who hut a single wrong note during a performance

Manhunter is the better film in my opinion because, on top of the cast, i love the way Mann shoots the film.

The setting is important too. The use of a dungeon-like prison in the newer series is ludicrous. The prison in Manhunter felt more realistic, right down to Lecter having copies of the American Psychiatric Association journal on his shelf.

Ironic that Manhunter focuses more on Graham's family when it doesn't have the ending back at his house

NC's description of of the detective in Manhunter is closer to how he's described in the book. The fake-out ending and the second climax is in the book, too. In case anyone cares. Also, did you notice that the tooth fairy tries to avoid the letter S when he's speaking? He has a speech impediment he's ashamed of, so he has practiced avoiding the sound he can't pronounce. It's an interesting writing consideration.

@badasscomedy5126

2 жыл бұрын

If I ever decide that I’m gonna adapt the Hannibal Lecter books into movies when I become a film maker, I’ll keep that in mind. But at the same time, I just gotta read the books. Though, I’d need the licensing first

@wardragonprime

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct. The plot of the original Red Dragon story includes his tragic upbringing.☹

@mrcritical6751

3 ай бұрын

I tried that once with an alien race where snake like and hissed out their S’s, it was considered rude to do it cause their tongues popped out. It was hell to write, it just made it near impossible for her to have a conversation

For me Red Dragon is just a movie, Manhunter is great cinema.

I mean Manhunter came out in 1986. It was way ahead of its time. Not many movie in that period talked of forensic science. It was the first and set the rest of that genre up for what it is now.

@gustavoalmanza2673

Жыл бұрын

Ironic because Petersen would end up on CSI

@nightloaf4983

Жыл бұрын

Always this weird link 🤣

Also, I should say, I really like how "Manhunter", "The Red Dragon" and "Hannibal" TV series used different angles in adapting the novel, sometimes choosing different scenes...

I find it rather ironic that Norton plays the more down-to-earth, mentally sound version of Graham since, as such movies as American History X and Primal Fear have shown, he’s a CHAMPION at playing unhinged psychopaths who go off the deep end at the slightest provocation.

@rositasultana3958

6 ай бұрын

Let’s not forget The Score with Robert DeNiro and Marlon Brando.

@Danko_Sekulic

4 ай бұрын

​@@rositasultana3958 He was just an exvellent manipulator in that one. Nothing particularly " unhinged". What OP truly left out IMO is the Fight Club.

Brian Cox is underrated as Hannibal, sure Hopkins is iconic and brilliant in a movie villain sense but Cox is a real psycho and far more realistic. Manhunter is a masterpiece if I'm honest.

I have to go with Manhunter, based on the fact that I own both it and Red Dragon, but I rewatch Manhunter from time to time, but not the latter. This is especially counterintuitive to me since the RD cast is so phenomenal. Manhunter just plays creepier and more disturbing/interesting for me, I guess.

@Seven_Leaf

5 ай бұрын

I pardon you.

the best portrayal of lector is Hopkins in silence of the lambs. But for me Cox is a better Lector in manhunter than Hopkins is in red dragon.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

AGREED! Anthony Hopkins never acted like Hannibal Lecter from the books. But it didn't matter because he was phenomenal in The Silence of the Lambs. However, he failed to recapture his performance from The Silence of the Lambs in Red Dragon. So he failed at being both.

@75aces97

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Hopkins was incandescent in SotL, but by his third film playing Lecter he got really hammy.

@Dim4323

2 жыл бұрын

Nah Hopkins is the true lector and we have other movies to develop him and won a oscar

@d.w.strangeman4963

Жыл бұрын

Agree on that but Red Dragon is such a bad film (it gives away the ending in the first ten minutes). Philip s. Hoffman and Emily Watson are the only actors who came out of the film with any credibility (film not career) and both their performances where derogative of the same characters from Manhunter.

@hardcoreking52

Жыл бұрын

I love Cox's performance, I think Hopkins comes off a little hammy is because of the previous films and he had to keep that consistent. However I would still have to say I prefer Hopkins performance better mostly due to his eyes. The way Hopkins acts with just his eyes is terrifying, I can tell he really wants to get Will.

As others have pointed out, the fake-out was in the book. The problem with it here is that Will comes away from it looking MUCH prettier than he did in the book so it has almost zero impact on the story, other than to tie up loose ends with Dolarhyde - serving as more of a "cherry on top" than a subversion of expectations. It also makes Lecter's remark about hoping Will isn't too ugly carry much less weight. I get why they did that, though. Leaving Will as a drunk in Florida "with a face like a Picasso" probably doesn't make for a very satisfying movie ending.

Tom Noonan's creepiness factor has always registered high with me.

@wardragonprime

Жыл бұрын

He showed up in Law and Order - SVU. He played a pedophile who took pictures of children. Big boo-boo - one of the children was the daughter of Elliot Stabler who lowered the boom with a literal vengeance!!!😀

I just realized now that Hannibal Lecter reminds me of Palpatine.

@czzp77

7 ай бұрын

Ironic.

@SergioMach7

6 ай бұрын

If they ever adapt another book to the screen; Somehow, Hannibal Lecter returned.

@czzp77

6 ай бұрын

@@SergioMach7 "...long have I waited for my grandchild to come home. I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here, ms. Lecter"

Manhunter is more Will Graham’s story than anything, it’s about his struggles coming back, and the ambiguous nature of what actually happened to him works better for me. Red Dragon veers a bit too far into melodrama for my liking, and it completely does away with any subtly or ambiguity. Both are great adaptations of a great novel, BUT, there’s absolutely no doubt that Brian Cox’s understated menace is a million times preferable, to me at least, to Sir Tony’s gurning hamfisting. I love him in SOTL, but any Lecter he did after that is pure pantomime.

I guess I'm saying it again: Critic keeps talking about how Manhunter has so little music, and not a lot of memorable visuals, and the movie I saw had a *heavy* emphasis on both, where the "blank walls" are a deliberate contrast in certain locations and scenes. Also: As far as "just another kill" in Manhunter, there is the part where Dollarhyde...

Maybe it's just because I came of age in the 1980s, the greatest decade in the history of decades, but I prefer the style and tone of Manhunter. Red Dragon is good but it feels like an afterthought and the whole franchise would have been better served by remaking Hannibal.

@aaronhinton3446

8 жыл бұрын

*laughs "What's so funny??" "He said the eighties was the best decade!!"

@TroyB42

8 жыл бұрын

I agree that the 80's was the best decade...it's been downhill for music ever since BUTT I like Red Dragon better by a little bit. Both good films but Hopkins works it better as a high functioning serial killer. BTW...Long Live The 80's!!!

@maplebob23

8 жыл бұрын

Troy Beals I can respect that. I wanted to see Hopkins in Red Dragon after I saw Manhunter. And I'm glad Red Dragon was made so I can see it but when it comes to re-watching, I almost always feel more in the mood for Manhunter.

I'm strongly in the Manhunter camp here

you should compare the movies to the tv series.

@Laughing_Chinaman

8 жыл бұрын

+melo13melo especially the last season which is almost all red dragon

@longliverocknroll5

8 жыл бұрын

+melo13melo The series wins hands down.

@CrazyKraut20

8 жыл бұрын

+Fletchers Flesh YESH!!! give me EVERY OUNCE of your HATE... HATATATATATATA

@CrazyKraut20

8 жыл бұрын

Fletchers Flesh too LATE thy HATEis already MINE... and MINE ALONE!!!

@CrazyKraut20

8 жыл бұрын

Fletchers Flesh *fades into distance* HATATATAtatatat.......

I think it's obvious that Manhunter would have an edge over Red Dragon in terms of its creepiness and atmosphere. Michael Mann, the director of the movie, was also the screenwriter for the original Miami Vice TV series, a show very well known for its atmosphere and what it could do while its characters were saying relatively little. Meanwhile, the director of Red Dragon, Brett Ratner, is best known for directing Rush Hour, which is about as far away from Hannibal Lecter as it can possibly be.

I remember seeing manhunter back in high school. Gives me creeps still to this day. Come on, pre-Heat Mann, no contest....

@theonlyguiltymaninshawshan7909

3 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree. Ratner did a fine job, but Michael Mann (the director of Heat, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans, etc.) really delivers on mood and style along with the gritty substance. He's got his classic "Miami Vice" feel going on in Manhunter as well. The guy is a brilliant director.

Raloh Fiennes really shines in Red Dragon. his performance is of the wall.

@Seven_Leaf

5 ай бұрын

That smile with Hoffman.

Maybe Manhunter is made to "work" *without...* have to phrase it right, to work on its own, specifically so Dollarhyde is a mysterious figure you can only guess at from the outside.

Ive seen Manhunter then Red Dragon. I prefer Manhunter since it doesn't really on Silence of the Lambs or Lecter and doesn't have to hold your hand throughout. Plus Manhunter feels more gritty and uncomfortable. With Red Dragon it comes across as silly, especially the added Lecter scenes. I also feel like the acting feels more natural in Manhunter, but that could just be the order I saw them in.

If you haven't seen Manhunter...you really should. You just have to look past the 80s cheese. The scene where Denise Ferina and Petersen figure out where the Tooth Fairy is from watching the home videos is one of the greatest scenes in film history and gives me chills . Not to mention the "In a Gadda da Vida" climax is amazing

I wish the Red Dragon theme played whenever I entered a room.

Red Dragon is more faithful to the word of the book, but Manhunter is by far the superior film.

The timing in Manhunter works, Red Dragon feels stretched out and shows too much.

Just found this today - great work! Maybe it’s because I’m from the 80s, and I’d already seen and absorbed Manhunter by the time Red Dragon showed up, and it is definitely a close call, but it’s Manhunter every time for me. The whole reason this story is so interesting is because it’s Graham himself that stopped Lector, and their dynamic, which I definitely prefer in Manhunter. I’d watch Red Dragon over Silence of the Lambs any day, too, because I just don’t find Clarice Starling anything like as compelling a protagonist as Graham.

Considering how big a fan I am of "Manhunter"... well, I just have to point out one thing, here: You think of the visuals in the two movies and all you can remember from "Manhunter" is white? That covers the scenes focusing on Dr. Hannibal Lecktor -- spelling theirs -- and no others, at least not that I can think of, and that's actually part of the point: In a very visual, colorful movie, Dr. Lecktor resides in another world entirely, and having to be anywhere near him puts Graham under serious stress. When he finally bails on their interview, he walks away nervously, gains speed, and then he finally starts RUNNING out of that place, and all he can see is white, white, white, until finally, he makes it through the doors, looks over the railing, and... he can only stop and catch his breath when he sees the grass. ...so, just to be clear, the *rest* of "Manhunter" has *really* cool visual shots all over the place, while not bogging down the rest of the movie at all.

@norwegianblue2017

11 күн бұрын

Outside of the stark whiteness of the FBI offices and the prison, Manhunter is a film awash in color. Even the opening credits are a mesmerizing blend of colors. So when you see the murder scene in stark white with streaks of blood everywhere, it really makes an impact.

Having watched the Hannibal series in order of release I can still say Manhunter is the best film in the franchise.

Wow, Manhunter must have one of the greatest film soundtracks of all time. I mean, screw compelling pieces and orchestras, all you need is one note on an 80's keyboard, and you're good to go!

@monsterhunter66

7 жыл бұрын

Vivir I agree it's very creepy.

@matthalaboo6694

4 жыл бұрын

And the use of "In a gadda da vida"

@inr9751

3 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of The Thing, good sir?

@JoakimOtamaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@inr9751 Dun-dun.... dun-dun... dun-dun... It's amazingly awesome!

@spuriusscapula4829

2 жыл бұрын

One note?

I'd like to see him watch Hannibal the series XD Mads mikkelsen's portrayal was nothing short of perfection

Can you please bring this series back

Took me a while to realize that Graham in Manhunter is played by Gil Grissom from CSI Vegas. He looks so young it was hard for me to recognize him.

If you enjoyed visuals for both movies then that's because Dante Spinotti was the cinematographer for both films.

As far as character goes, the ones in Manhunter was all-around more interesting Francis is much more mysterious, making him more scary; Will is actually struggling with retaining his sanity; and Lecter seems more in control Got to say, kind of weird how Jack Crawford ISN'T played by Scott Glenn in Red Dragon. I love Harvey Keitel, but they don't look similar enough

the thing with the fake out in red dragon though is that in the books he actually makes people think he's dead, he gets his girlfriend to lock the door and hang a key around his neck, then shoots himself in the head, but it's not him instead it's someone he abducted (i can't remember who) but he got her to put the key around his neck so she would have to feel for the body to find the key to escape, so red dragon did focus more on the story with the fake out

They do make Hugh Darcy's Will Graham in the Hannibal series closer to William Petersen's Will Graham.

Manhunter has always been the superior film, that being said the cast of Red Dragon is phenomenal, without them it would have been an OK remake instead of a good remake.

It's kind of weird how NC listed all those reasons why Manhunter is superior and then turned around and gave the best Lecter title to Hopkins with almost no explanation.

Wow. That's a great one. He probably should have revisited the comparison with the series, but it would've been hard, I imagine. Personally, as a Thomas Harris fan, I like all of the five movies and a series. Each one has something different to hook you emotionally. A great franchise.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

Same. :-)

He should do this one again, but with the Hannibal series.

I give it to Manhunter for two reasons, or rather characters. Will and Lecter. Now there is no denying that Hopkins portrayal of Lecter in Silence of the Lambs was brilliant, but I feel they're milking it too much in Red Dragon. Right from the beginning Hopkins is undeniably sinister, which is cool except there is no sense of occation. Brian Cox is more timid, which gives the impression of a sleeping monster that could surface at any time. There's real suspense.

@75aces97

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Graham and Lector are both unpredictable in Manhunter. You're not quite sure what either of them are capable of in that version. I also like that we learn less about the tooth fairy, which makes Tom Noone's portrayal scarier.

@jdzspace33

3 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree with you but this one is so unbelievably difficult to compare because it is really hard to make the comparisons in a vacuum if you lived through the time period where Red Dragon was released. If you read all of the books and watched Silence and Hannibal then you knew that was the end of Lecter and how you would never see that character being portrayed by that actor ever again. Then all of a sudden we get Red Dragon and we get something we weren't expecting. So Lecter in Red Dragon means more than in Manhunter. There are few more iconic characters, and even fewer iconic characters so intrinsically attached to an actor as Sir Anthony Hopkins and Hannibal Lecter. An unexpected 3rd episode with that character by that actor can't be understated regardless of Cox's performance.

@dougbrowne9890

Ай бұрын

@@jdzspace33 Wrong. Cox's Lecktor is superior, because he is exactly like so many real serial killers. I could not find a true serial killer that was anything like Hopkin's character. Manhunter is superior because it is very realistic, while Red Dragon is more fantasy.

I know red dragon maybe looks like it has the “ better cinematography “ but no i love the editing style of manhunter the way the camera would be focused on the floor and move super fast and other unnatural cuts. Red dragon is too clinical for me i really love how weird manhunter was.

3:15 Holy shit it's Gil Grissom!!!

Who else gets the feeling that he's reuploading all old vs new videos so that he can make a new one.

@cofageekus1524

8 жыл бұрын

+TheReubenthegreat Sure hope so.

@QueenCloveroftheice

8 жыл бұрын

+TheReubenthegreat One can only hope. I love this series!

I really like Brian Cox's performance more, but is with The Tooth Fairy that my lines really get blurred, I find both so good that I don't have an answer about who is better.

Why was the blind woman wearing a watch in Red Dragon?

@caidalee1994

5 жыл бұрын

PatZeb To feel the ticking maybe? It might be for a coping mechanism, instead of its intended purpose.

Cox lectar was more realistic, how real life serial killers in prison talk and behave (lot of videos available online) . Hopkins came as theatrical and dramatic.. Broadway killer Just watch interviews of real serial killers , after years in prison. They know why people come to them, and they are mostly sick of talking about this, repeating their ordeal, so they take pleasure in annoying the other person, or even "its easy, you can try it" and then laugh at the horrified "normal person"

@dreamlandnightmare

8 жыл бұрын

+kanishq ruhil Totally agree. Hopkins is a fantastic actor, but his Hannibal is too much of a "mustache twirler". Cox is chillingly naturalistic.

@KanishQQuotes

8 жыл бұрын

***** Yes, that's exactly what came to my mind, after seeing a few interviews of real serial killers, especially those with no remorse. Most of them are tired of discussing the same things, are frustrated and are just sort of looking at the predictable reactions of those interviewing them, a common trait is that they also amuse themselves by going "what had you done" or "you've no idea how it feels, perhaps you could try " or "you almost think the same way don't you"

Winner: The 2013 Hannibal TV series.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

+bigevilworldwide1 Doesn't matter if it got cancelled. The series has made it to three seasons, which is impressive considering the low-ratings. And the show can also come back in a different network.

@judescheidler857

8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym have you not finished the show yet.

@cameronirvine323

8 жыл бұрын

+jude scheidler They plan each seasons ending as a sort of final ending, in which may continue, in risk of being cancelled.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

jude scheidler Despite how season three ended, they can always continue with the story.

@cameronirvine323

8 жыл бұрын

Hank Pym Like what happened in season 2

Why on Earth did you not compare cinematography or direction?? You looked at these only at surface level. Michael Mann is much better at filmmaking than Brett Ratner, yet you ignored his amazing style.

Always depends on one’s personal preference. I think there are improved parts in ‘Red Dragon’ (mostly with Ralph Fiennes’ as the villain; sorry but Tom Noonan’s performance is kinda meh to me), but ‘Manhunter’ doesn’t get enough credit

@edwarddore7617

2 жыл бұрын

Tom Noonan was subtle, and brilliant.

@dougbrowne9890

Ай бұрын

@@edwarddore7617 True, I think I could take Hopkins in a fight, but Noonan would vaporize me in a hearbeat.

(Manhunter) Yeah, I was also completely sidetracked by the old labels in the grocery store and if I remember right, at one point the cereal changed to coffee. I don't know if the version I saw was edited or what, but it was really distracting.

Sorry but I think Manhunter is better. Silence of the Lambs is better than Manhunter but Manhunter is much better than Red Dragon because of William Peterson's performance.

@jackwells8107

5 жыл бұрын

My real problem with this is that he basically decided Red Dragon was the better movie based on Silence of the Lambs, and what had gone into in previous movies, which is not the same as saying Red Dragon is the better movie, in and of itself.

@rossdiamondthief6627

5 жыл бұрын

Subtleblunt Duality Red Dragon is still a good movie though IMHO

Could you review Hannibal Rising? You could make a parody of Silence of the Lambs reviewing Rising. Plus I could see you playing Lecter and Tamara would make a great Starling.

@ShadowSonic2

3 жыл бұрын

He ended up doing that when he did "Hannibal" last year! You're prescient!

@alicegraham1571

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 I saw it and thought it was great! lol thank you i write.

Dancy from the tv series is like Petersen in performance.

Manhunter. Its a brilliant movie. its WAY better than red dragon.

Funnily enough, I got a trailer for the BFI dvd release of Silence of the Lambs before the video started. Was that intentional?

How did you know what I had for breakfast?

one of my favorite 80s movies, the music, the style, the grit, everything :)

It's been forever since I've seen Manhunter, but you just can't out villain Tom Noonan. So suck it, Voldemort!

The weird background in Man hunter shows how Kubrick faked the Mars landing

As much as I adore Hopkins' Lecter, also in the Red Dragon, Brian Cox performance is pure magnificence if you just compare it to the book. The problem with Hopkins is that Hopkins' Lecter was established in Silence and Hannibal as an anti-hero - we know he's horrible, but we are also supposed to kinda like him. Nothing like that in Red Dragon (book), Lecter is pure evil in that.

While I do agree with most of what the Nostalgia Critic said about Manhunter and Red Dragon, however I would've put Red Dragon's version of the serial killer was overall better. I personally think seeing him struggling to control his murderous intentions, as well as his relationship with that blind woman was generally heart breaking.

One of the things I didn't get about Red Dragon is why Fiennes didn't gain more muscle for the part. They clearly brought in the lifting and he flexes his tattoo in that one famous scene, but it looks silly because he's got very little muscle on his back. They followed the book really closely and in the book he lifts 300 pounds over his head. Fiennes looks like he does work out but his physique isn't as remarkable as Dolarhyde is described in the book. I don't get it.

Okay, who thought he said Emma Watson at 12:13 and you just sat there like "That doesn't look like Hermione at all."

That Caspar Jump-scare at the end! You nearly gave me a heart attack!

I really enjoy these old vs new videos.

I have read the book but haven't seen either version. Which one is better and which one is more faithful to the source material?

Red Dragon is such an underrated movie. It feels very realistic in a creepy way

@NUCLEARDASH

Жыл бұрын

North americans just dont know what realistic means, it is amazing how far you people have come from what is real or not

@quasarone3083

Жыл бұрын

@@NUCLEARDASH I'm neither American nor do i say this movie IS realistic, i said it feels realistic which is a comment more about theme and atmosphere rather then content and actual realism. Stop assuming shit and have some basic literacy instead of having a go at people for perfectly normal statements!

Love when he does Old Vs New and when it comes to Lecture....I was excited to see this pop up on KZread ^^

Holy hell that new thumbnail looks great.

Red Dragon seems like an attempt to washout Manhunter. The latter never got the success or attention that SOTL got. The critics hated how much Mann leaned into “style over substance” which I disagree with since Mann goes for realism in this film much like Nolan does in TDK. In 2024, I’d argue Manhunter is the true time tested classic and should still be, as it was before, considered part 1 of aforementioned trilogy. It’s a neon version of Hannibal Lecter (Lektor), and Michael Mann is a true auteur on Manhunter. Utilizing a ton of technique and adding his own. Oh, and the SOUNDTRACK? Willing to bet this film, and Mann’s “Thief”, influenced Drive (2011). Another film that totes rulez. Thanks for the video post.

@norwegianblue2017

11 күн бұрын

Thief may be the most underrated and slept on movies of all time.

Manhunter is better than Red Dragon.

Can't wait for the Jungle Book Old vs New.

@monsterhunter66

7 жыл бұрын

Zhao Dragión me too

I can see Hopkins in any character in any movie without feel inconfortable the guy is fucking scary he is the best Hannibal Lecter

Old vs new Red Dawn?

@mikeyeaton4964

6 жыл бұрын

That will be a short video. The Old wins because North Korea cannot invade America.

Finally somebody else who liked Red Dragon. I love that movie. Fiennes as Dollarhyde is one of the scariest realistic and personal favorite villains ever.

@SM-nz9ff

6 жыл бұрын

Never met anyone IRL who didn't like Red Dragon sooo.......uhhhh.....you need to hang around different people bruh.

@cassia-andor6445

3 жыл бұрын

He’s Voldemort. Of course he’s terrifying.

Manhunter is a masterpiece. It is not even close.

Is it just me or was that final music clip featured in The Sims? I feel like it was in TS2.

I agree this one is a really hard matchup, both movies are equally enjoyable. I honestly think I prefer Red Dragon in all the categories, not sure if its just a blind love of Hopkins or the fact that while they are basically the same movie they go at telling it in drastically different ways. I prefer the Red Dragon's version of Dolarhyde because all of the sympathetic scenes makes you hope and wish that he can stop, he could put the killing behind him and be with the one woman that will love him despite his physical flaws. Sure its a pipe dream but still a dream that the movie wanted the viewers to long for. Also I like Norton's version of Graham, I preferred seeing a man who while being mentally tormented by what he does for a living still manages to show that he isn't giving into the same darkness as the ones he hunts.Again that's just my personal opinion but I still love Manhunter for the animal it is.

I'd love to see him redo this and include the shows version of the red dragon arch.

They're both a great cast its hard to compare the two!!!

doug should do an appendix of this with with old vs new vs newer with the short lived tv series, Hannibal.

Which theme tune is for which movie? Can someone please let me know

I don't know, Doug. I read the synopses for both films on their Wikipedia pages and I feel like the romance in Red Dragon's a bit more rushed than the romance in Manhunter. I mean in Manhunter, they talk before she initiates the sex wherein Red Dragon, he's the one who initiates it. Barely any talk or build-up.

@Kip450

5 жыл бұрын

Reading a synopsis is not the same as viewing a film.

red dragon is the better movie to me as Anthony is one of the greatest actors alive.

Critic you should definitely check out Hannibal the TV series. And maybe you could make a video about it. Pretty please?

You've seen these tapes, haven't you, my man?

Now it would be Red Dragon vs Manhunter vs Hannibals final season.

I really like the old "Old vs. New" intro more than the newer one (for the Spider-Man movies). Partly because I imagined it featured a kid fighting his future, old-man self. Instead of the weird "look at my production value!" intro that features a white tomboy growing up into black Gandalf.

@KeybladeMasterAndy

7 жыл бұрын

uknownada I always just interpreted it as neighbors rather than future/past self.

@twofacetoo75

6 жыл бұрын

Y'know just once I'd like to see someone complain about the Critic's new episodes without bringing the cast into it. Newsflash: Rob was originally a guest star in the reviews, and nobody bitched and moaned back then. Just get over it and enjoy the damn videos.

@Dylan03917

6 жыл бұрын

The fuck do you mean “look at my production value”? They are in honestly pretty shit costumes against a pretty shit green screen, but that’s the point, it looks better than the old but it’s not an insane show of production value. That argument makes no sense whatsoever!

@willthomas2310

5 жыл бұрын

It's not really that deep lol

Manhunter all the way for me

Man this might be one of the best ones in the comparison(not your video but the actual movies). They should tie based on double awesomeness.

Manhunter is way better than Red Dragon.

@coosoorlog

8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym absolutely superior.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

Coos Oorlog Mah nikka.

@SteampunkCentral

8 жыл бұрын

bigevilworldwide1 The TV series is awesome! Mads Mikkelsen is the definitive Hannibal Lecter.

@multitudeofidols

8 жыл бұрын

+bigevilworldwide1 Nice attempt at trolling.

@SOIBand

8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym well thats debatable

I dunno... Sometimes some of his synopsis of the side by sides seems specifically just to tie it up for the final "tie breaker".