I take it personally that they made fred stupid. Fred is a smart guy. He’s just so singularly focused on his traps and solving mysteries that he misses out on things like daphne hitting on him. He’s a himbo, not a complete idiot

@elchomper.1063

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.... That bullshit wasn't introduced until mystery inc. Watch the original where are you series. It was made for 6 year olds in 1970 they're wasn't any sexual tension or plotlines or any of that crap that Scooby Doo doesn't need. They went 40 something year's without it.

@shorewall

Жыл бұрын

@@elchomper.1063 I agree, but it just shows that there are two beloved interpretations of these characters. And Velma manages to piss off both of them. I don't know anyone who hates Scooby Doo. But this show is made with hate in its heart for Scooby Doo.

@anniemousegal2015

Жыл бұрын

A himbo 😂😂I’ve never heard that before that’s awesome

@shayshay513

Жыл бұрын

@@anniemousegal2015 he’s loveably stupid! Not embarrassingly stupid!

@kennethsatria6607

Жыл бұрын

​@@elchomper.1063 Whats New Scooby Doo and the animated movies in the Zombie Island era were definitely my shit growing up.

You know, Velma was right about one thing: this is her story told her way. Unfortunately for her, no one likes it.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Velma is a self insert Self inserts rarely ever work

@youtubewontletme

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for her, she is not the real Velma

@SonofTiamat

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for her, she's a woke-scold who needs to join the 41%

@damienearl8302

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, a Scooby Doo prequel with an actual main character that isn't someone most people focus on actually sounds great! ...to bad this isn't that, and isn't even trying to be

@texzt7027

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 all of chainsaw man waifus are self insert and still you beat your meat for them. i'm not defending velma tho, just roasting this guy

* Race swaps Velma because "whiteness has nothing to do with it" * Makes Velma constantly relate everything to whiteness

@Iblamethebarrels

Жыл бұрын

*doesn't want to limit a character to her race* *Consistently mentions race regularly*

@uberneanderthal

Жыл бұрын

using the term "whiteness" itself is a red flag. i've never seen it used by anyone except the most degenerate social studies majors.

@0v_x0

Жыл бұрын

I'm down for race swapping to fuck with expectation as long as it works with a narrative but this is just pathological.

@riachatsaweeb

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I swear, and they constantly make fun of white people and mention race 😑

@eeyorehaferbock7870

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, why even point that out when no one ever made the fact that she and the other characters were white a big deal to begin with?

"She's narcissistic , judges everyone, loves to race-shame, body-shame, gender-shame..." So Mindy in a nutshell.

@osmanyousif7849

Жыл бұрын

Or any PC person today….

@milesmelonprower7416

Жыл бұрын

@@osmanyousif7849 what did i do? ;~;

@yashsawarn9050

Жыл бұрын

​@@milesmelonprower7416low end pc is cheaper than consoles

@milesmelonprower7416

Жыл бұрын

@@yashsawarn9050 im confused now

@ponikoTV

Жыл бұрын

Is mindy a terf?

My biggest problem with this show is how much it is filled with hatred towards almost everyone. How can somebody take such a wholesome concept as Scooby Doo and turn it into something this mean-spirited? And also look what they did to our lovable golden retriever of a man, Fred!

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

This show tries so hard to be Family Guy and South Park 😂

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Even in shows like "It's Always Sunny" where the main characters are written to be assholes with few to zero redeeming qualities there are still moments of goodness and light: think Frank tearing up at Mac's dance routine in "Mac Finds His Pride," or how the Gang is willing to come together for each other when it actually matters. They're horrible people, but they're horrible people with hearts of gold. Think Stolas genuinely trying to be a better father to Octavia than Paimon was to him in "Helluva Boss." When a show about actual demons in literal Hell has more goodness and heart than your Scooby Doo spinoff YOU FUCKED UP.

@mirceazaharia2094

Жыл бұрын

Post-modernist cultural Marxism, that's how.

@mcstabbins4501

Жыл бұрын

This feels more like a middle schooler made it soley because they were "woke AF"

@AllyGatorAnimator

Жыл бұрын

I only made it through the first episode and you could make a lethal drinking game out of the number of times the characters blatantly say "this isn't like OTHER SHOWS" or just point out cliches/stereotypes exist without actually doing anything funny with it. Steve was generous when he said it was every 2 minutes. It's so cynical and feels almost snobby with the show implying it's above all of that while ironically being lazy and never actually trying to prove it's unique. I would have actually loved to see a slasher series in the Scooby Doo universe where tropes from both were subverted, but Velma seems to forget that to subvert tropes, you have to do more than just point out that those tropes exist and say you're different. You have to BE different. Even without the Scooby Doo paint on it, this is a really lazy take on the slasher/mystery genre.

Fred was the friendly neighbor boy who'd want to help no matter the situation, Daphne was the popular girl that didn't have an ego the size of a Kardashian ass, Velma was a smart girl that didn't seem to care about what others thought of her and would happily nerdout at some things, Shaggy a nice guy all around that wasn't the brightest or bravest, but just loved to be with his friends, and Scooby was the awesome dog companion that just makes everything that much more enjoyable. If they do write Scooby in later and if they feel the need to keep up with their so important swapping, they better not bring him in as a poodle or chihuahua

@NEEDbacon

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, they made him a Black Chick that flirts with "Norville". Scoobi, with an I. I'm not making this up.

@Havingsights4009me

Жыл бұрын

@@NEEDbacon kill me

@creepersammyb2926

Жыл бұрын

@@NEEDbacon source? so seriously i wanna know your source WITH LINKS to multiple sources

@chaosXP3RT

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry Scooby will be a cat

@scarlett798

Жыл бұрын

oh hell no i would go to the studio my self if they replace the big boi

Honestly the biggest problem I have with the show is how much of a bully I find Velma. From the clips I have seen she is rude, insensitive, and selfish. Like when she stole Daphne's diary and read it out loud in front the whole school. And she justified it by saying she was trying to make Daphne vulnerable or human. I don't know maybe it's just me

@griffintheunseen1463

Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong there.

@elyssejohnston

Жыл бұрын

How is that even "making someone vulnerable/human" anyways? You're literally just humiliating and embarrassing someone in front of an audience. Ah yes, the ultimate way of showing vulnerability, embarrassment and humility! Makes no sense, and she's definitely a bully. It's not just you because it's as clear as day. Honestly really sad. 😒 (Edit: Glad she got slammed into that wall)

@user-qd6nd9tr8p

3 ай бұрын

That just plain vicious and cruel and i believe this velma just say that stuff so can keep her enjoyment of making people suffer a secret

@ahmedaliyu1495

6 күн бұрын

How is that a sign of a grown up or Adult

"Lets make adult cartoon scooby-" The entire World : *"No."*

@wetheepiphany

Жыл бұрын

"Not like this, anyway."

@Iblamethebarrels

Жыл бұрын

I'd be fine if it was *done well*

@0v_x0

Жыл бұрын

Scoobs as noir detective, kicked off TSA vice when he ate a stash of pot brownies. Instead of dying, because dogs and chocolate being potentially very toxic (and THC hallucinations for that matter), he gained extra sensory powers that let him smell crime (or "mischief") from his double boosted near death experience. But, he is disgraced from the force and seen as a mockery, and his powers only work with weed infused "Scooby snacks." Thus, he must rely on the help of pot dealer Shaggy and his eccentric group of high school customers, who all share an irrational, paranoid obsession with criminal activity and especially the paranormal, in order to kind of bumblingy solve various petty mischief by getting a dog high and following it around. It's mostly displayed super serious, with no meta humor, just cutaways that show it is 90% played up in their heads, with collective delusions, etc. Even though they save the day. Usually. Any time someone brings up that a dog can talk, it's used to reinforce why something spooky might be happening. It's never confirmed whether Scoobs can actually talk to other characters. Bumbling stoner ghost hunters (give them a KZread channel for "relevance" idgaf) successfully solving crimes, and maybe don't understand how they solved them? I'd watch that without the licensed tie-in. They still say fuck, and Scooby wears a trenchcoat so he looks like scruff mcgruff, the TV narc dog from the 90s that aired during commercials during cartoons. They still say jinkies and stuff so the casual swearing is extra absurd. I'd watch more than I'm watching Velma. Which would be any, at all.

@SLIDD_DDILS

Жыл бұрын

To be honest, an adult take on Scooby Doo can definitely work well if done properly, and I'd like to see WB take the time to do so. It's just that this attempt fell flat for its own reasons, not necessarily because of the demographic

@blueflare3848

Жыл бұрын

No, the thing is, a Scooby Doo spinoff for adults had a lot of potential. They just fucked it up.

Don't be too hard on yourself. That ''Scooby Don't'' joke was still funnier than anything in this show.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

The Show commited complete self assasination when they decided to have two cockroaches do the thing

@grace.stewartt4224

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 😂

@alfredhinton8792

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375within 5 minutes

@MforMovesets

Жыл бұрын

Well I hate the source material but I'm still gonna say: Aren't you glad that Scooby isn't in it? At least one got away.

@darkprime6815

Жыл бұрын

@@MforMovesets from what I heard the only reason Scooby ain't in it is because Hanna-Barbera basically said "yeah nah you can have the others but Scooby-Doo is off limits" (could be wrong but that's what I heard) imagine if Scooby had gotten into the show though

If Velma was purposely written to be the worst animated show of all time, they sure did a fantastic job.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that makes more sense because there is no way that someone can actually write a show like this and not be aware at how bad it is

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

It's making Cocomelon look good, because at least there's a group of people out there who enjoys Cocomelon.

@weirdguy1495

Жыл бұрын

Nah, Velma is at least somewhat salvageable. I have seen much worse than this.

@MforMovesets

Жыл бұрын

I love how all reviewers don't recommend it while they caused the first episode to be on the Number 1 spot. I mean, who else watched it but reviewers who want to s*** on it? Maybe they are part of the problem.

@luizmourabr

Жыл бұрын

@@weirdguy1495 Just look at Paradise PD lol

Literally the exact opposite of classic Velma. 😂 Velma was sweet, funny, understanding, caring, and a little on the naïve side. The classic BFF who accepted you no matter what your walk in life.

@rosemary3029

Жыл бұрын

The og velma also had a wee bit of sass

@colorblockpoprocks6973

Жыл бұрын

naive? the smartest of the group that basically single-handedly solved every mystery? lol

@101Volts

Жыл бұрын

@@rosemary3029 Not much, really. It's the 2010 - 2012 Mystery Incorporated version of her who was the sassiest. The only time I can think of OG Velma being at all sassy was in the Addam's Family episode; at one point, Fred says "Velma, you're a genius!" and Velma says "So what else is new?"

Thank you SO MUCH for talking about the shower scene and their age, i felt really uncomfortable how they did that, and sexualized young teenage girls in an "adult" franchise. Velma isnt for adults, its for the dumpster.

@davestew5135

Жыл бұрын

I think the bot agrees.😂

@zeldaprincessgirl100

Жыл бұрын

Hey, dumpsters are useful.

@demarkuswashington6475

Жыл бұрын

That's rude. Don't insult the dumpster like that.

@0v_x0

Жыл бұрын

@@demarkuswashington6475 yeah, what did the dumpster do? cuz you'd have to burn it after.

@elliottpak

Жыл бұрын

@@demarkuswashington6475dumpster was just doin its job

It brings me so much joy that literally nobody has a positive opinion of this dumpsterfire of a show

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

the only one with the positive opinion about this show is the clear self insert that plays Velma

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Variety's headline was something to the effect of ""Velma's greatest mystery is why it even exists."

@Style_224

Жыл бұрын

True the only positive that i can think of that it has a lower rating that bdz evolution

@TheCommenterDragon

Жыл бұрын

The only "positive" things i have to say about this show is that the animation,artstyle and voice acting may be decent but other than that this series a complete abomination.

@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881

Жыл бұрын

Even my best friend who I usually use as a meter to gauge what to avoid because he usually likes awful stuff couldn't even finish an episode of this. Mind you he's the kind of guy who likes she hulk

The fact that this show is pretty much being universally rejected has restored my faith in humanity.

@HellecticMojo

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could feel the same with James Cameron's Avatar. It's so bad, why is it so bloody popular?

@tylertheguy3160

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeexits That does sound plausible, but wouldn't that only work in the short-term? I feel like if it got renewed, no one would watch season 2, and it would equate to money down the drain for HBO. Not to mention the damage this absolute garbage will do to their reputation.

@mikekasich836

Жыл бұрын

I'm tired of right-wingers always assuming every action is money-motivated stop attributing the race swapping and anti-light racism to some secret brilliant marketing strategy (by the idiot mindy kaling) when it's much better explained by anti-white racism if the KKK was in in charge of producing television shows and you suddenly saw traditionally black characters being race swapped into white characters you wouldn't just assume that it was some brilliant marketing strategy. that they were only doing it for the money. they're the kkk. they hate black people. that's why they did it and it is the same situation here.. there's no shadowy cabal do you devising these "brilliant" strategies and only doing these things for money. accept the fact at the millennials who have wormed their way into many of the top positions at these companies are DEEPLY FUCKING RACIST there is no generation that hates white people more than millennials. except maybe gen z they've taken over teaching positions and they're now teaching generations of kids to hate white people as much as they do with the race-based critical race theory. the jokes themselves in the episode are racist. stop assuming that there was some brilliant strategy behind it and just look at the obvious solution that's in front of you that is the reason that they are trying to erase white people from media is because they HATE WHITE PEOPLE it's not a marketing strategy. they don't give a shit about money. they give a shit about the agenda. they are willing to lose money to change the world. in case that hasn't been obvious these people hate white people. and men. and christianity. and anything else associated with white men.. including America they're just trying to erase white people from media because they hate white people. there's no deeper strategy behind it. there's no deeper meaning that you need to look deep to find the reasons. the reason is right in front of you. they hate white people. they want to eliminate white people from the gene pool. they want a world without white people and if they can't have that they at least want a world where white people are discriminated against and at the bottom and possibly even enslaved.. don't tell me I'm wrong just look at South Africa and their farmers this is why they race swapped characters. because they both want to erase white people from media and also they can't stand to look at white people so they want to get rid of them in Media anyway. it's very simple and we need to start talking about it

@HellecticMojo

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekasich836 or it's just money and marketing related like every business, ever.

@HellecticMojo

Жыл бұрын

@@tylertheguy3160 short term profits is generally what businesses value because that's what the shareholders want, just so they can bail out the peak.

Miles was already his own character…he isn’t a race swap at all ,Peter and miles both exists in miles’ universe

@privatizitat815

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but not everyone knew who he was before seeing the movie.

3:40 as for Into The Spiderverse; it was more because people thought Peter Parker was turned black. Miles was already a character in the comics, and most people were not aware of his existence because he's fairly new. He wasn't made as a separate character for the film, he's already a different person entirely to Parker even before the film was even pitched.

@georgeray1906

Жыл бұрын

Well at least Into The Spiderverse helped those people understand who Miles is.

@drby163

11 ай бұрын

He wasn't well liked by people when he was first introduced or in general in comics either, spiderverse made him into his own character more than the original author of his comics

@theenderdestruction2362

5 ай бұрын

I knew of him, limitly of course but I knew of him

@secretook

3 ай бұрын

ofc it’s different they are two different spider men

@brendenhawley2225

2 ай бұрын

I instantly went miles is comic book character, that said he clearly part of the minority push. Not all of it went well, but miles was good. One can push diversity and have it be good, it just got be well written. Heck it can be in your face, Metal gear was not subtle,

It's kinda funny how Velma has been latino in a few recent versions and was half Japanese in the two live action tv movies. But nobody cared because they kept the character personality and essence.

@mintz9782

Жыл бұрын

Still changing the race is silly, you don't change a character to push an agenda which is the only reason you'd change it..

@hairy_cornflake

Жыл бұрын

I definitely agree don't get me wrong! But if it's done in good taste and doesn't totally change the character for no real reason, I don't really care.

@alexleveille4832

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY what I've been saying. She could be dark skin I wouldn't give a fuck. It's the fact that she's being narcissistic, constantly bashing white people and looking down on everyone

@user-ub2tc1mt1y

Жыл бұрын

Because it wasnt about race in those movies

@JayAlastor

Жыл бұрын

When i was younger (Like 10 years ago, when i was in 10) I thought Velma Was japanese (or at least par japanese/chinese)... srsly thought that and it still is my head canon

Velma is what happens when people who hate the source material write the show based on it

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Velma is what happens when a twitter user writes a show that capitalizes on the childhood of many

@dr.bright6272

Жыл бұрын

Like the Last Airbender and Dragon Ball Evolution

@grapeshot

Жыл бұрын

​@@dr.bright6272yeah I've had people defend The Last Airbender when it's brought up that they basically whitewash that movie.

@Style_224

Жыл бұрын

More like twitter writing dumb fanfic

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

@UCoe5TD_lEGiK5V8hsLGydFw Or the Amazon adaptation of Wheel of Time.

Steve hit the nail on the head on Mindy's hypocritical statement about Velma's race. 'I don't need Velma to be Indian like me to identify with her. So let's make her Indian, like me.' Scooby-Doo has had a lot of characters introduced over the years. If they wanted to use that success to attract a bigger audience they could make a new cast in any color/size/orientation they want without rewriting the ones we know and love. I'm sure the franchise could handle some new blood for a different age group.

The entire scene with the 2 cockroaches getting down with the sickness in the first minute really did end up being perfect foreshadowing about how fundamentaly everything about this show turned out.

Mindy grew up with rich parents, never worked a day job & was handed a Hollywood job through her parents contracts & influences. So when she wrote Fred as a spoiled rich kid with no soul. Yeah i can definitely see she's really writing herself. This is what we in the business call "The Projection" & a classic Freudian Slip.

@boat6float

Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you are in the entertainment industry? It's fascinating to me that the people who wrote this have drifted so far away from reality that they are unable to recognize normal, regular people. The targeted audience are making jokes that this is a stealth conservative psych-op designed to make liberals look bad. In interviews Mindy seem to believe that the criticism is about the race swapping and she cannot understand that the work is just awful. She could have at least created an original work with her own characters.

@cptnzeep

Жыл бұрын

@@boat6float ...this is how you think normal people talk to/about each other?

@boat6float

Жыл бұрын

@@cptnzeep No. This is the exact opposite of regular, normal people. I don't think anyone talks like the characters in the show. The script is a complete failure in every way possible.

@DuelaDent52

Жыл бұрын

Minor correction, but believe it or not I believe she didn’t actually write the show.

@immortalfrieza

Жыл бұрын

@@boat6float Even if they did create an original work with their own characters it would still be godawful. Velma doesn't work not just because the Scooby Doo characters are done terribly and have nothing in common with their origins or why people liked them in the first place, but because the cartoon is just terrible as a cartoon period.

If Mindy actually “identified” with her as a character, she has no idea who Velma actually is. This isn’t Velma, this is her self insert, and I don’t wanna know how she is in real life if this is how she portrays Velma under the guise of she “identifies” as her character.

@FEKana

Жыл бұрын

I honestly think she only watched Mystery Inc and saw that she was sassy in that show and thought to herself: "That's just like me, fr. Let me just copy that and try it in my show, but without any of the charm or humor she had in Mystery Inc." I don't know Mindy personally, but I'd be inclined to believe this is a self insert with how often I see this point mentioned by literally everyone.

@Thor-Orion

Жыл бұрын

This show is actually offensive. Like offensively dreadful.

@Nothinglikeagoodnut

Жыл бұрын

The script feels like she wrote it in character as Kelly from The Office, another show where no one remembers her as such, and this is in her mind, a super meta thing to write Velma as Mindy through the mind of Kelly... Annoying asf and now it's on steroids

@Seer0cervus

Жыл бұрын

Well, on the internet, she acts no different than the so called Velma in this show. So, who's to say she might not act the same in real life? Or maybe even worse?

@Deathmare235

Жыл бұрын

The worst part is that her Velma is a bad person and a complete asshole so if this is a self insert which most likely it is then 💀

okay , but you *CANNOT* compare Bojack Horseman to freaking Velma of all things

You know what was cool about the original team? They all came from different social backgrounds and yet they got along naturally. They had very different personalities, and would sometimes joke about it, but none ever talked down to the other the way they do in this show. By implication, this show making the cast more racially diverse but having them continuously snipe at one another seems less inclusive and more "this is why we all can't get along". Nowadays it seems like show writers can't fathom interpersonal relationships that aren't cynical or outright hostile.

@colorblockpoprocks6973

Жыл бұрын

because they made this show to be racist and will perpetuate the cycle all they want if it benefits them. they felt personally slighted by (probably imaginary) white people and then they took out that frustration on fictional white people so that they can feel better by hurting other humans who didnt do shit lol eye for an eye in this world; the sooner we stop fucking poking out innocent eyes the faster we can all see how stupid it is.

Velma’s race swapping is done for one reason, and *only* one reason: “I want to be Velma. I am going to make Velma myself.” That’s it. Its why Velma doesn’t act like Velma. It’s a selfish desire to take control of a beloved character.

@rockscousteau

Жыл бұрын

Yea.....this is racism as its best. If Velma was black to start with in the early show...and they turned here white.....jesus save us all. Cities would be burned.

@VeryFamousActor

Жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@rinakitty9283

Жыл бұрын

Let's bring back johnny quest and replace hadji with a edgy white guy who shits on everybody and their race.

@DarkZeroHero

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but sadly have to leverage on an established character/IP to start off, because if she plays as herself, she knows it wouldn't fly.

@carlireland5049

Жыл бұрын

Truth is, I really wouldn’t have minded the race swaps if the new cast had played the characters well, and don’t think most people would have either. The problem is the new cast sucks, so it makes it seem really unnecessary since they kind of add nothing to this series.

Love how Mindy's explanation on Velmas skin color not being tied to her character and how she related to her, but that gets throw out the window with Fred, who half the jokes are just about how he's white and that's a negative thing. When in contrast Fred was always shown to be nice and if anything, comicly aloof

@userdamba2609

Жыл бұрын

@Alex Wells Not all jocks are bullies

@thebigmystery7841

Жыл бұрын

They did my himbo dirty

@dport9563

Жыл бұрын

Racist depiction of white people 🙄 is awful. Fred Jones was opposite of every jock from 60s. He hangs out with a stoner and a Jewish woman.

@Deeps429

Жыл бұрын

I would really, really love to go up to mindy in an interview on live tv and ask "So since this is a 'prequel' to the gang meeting up and becoming mystery inc. which season/ when will Velma, Daphne and Norville become white? is it like a joker thing where they fall in a vat of something...?" At this point though Velma isn't defined by her whiteness, Mindy is definitely gives Indian characters a bad rap...but luckily most people have realized its just MIndy.

@XxFloofyxX

Жыл бұрын

Everyone would be fine with the race swap if it didnt bring race jokes and stereotypes. Like omg another show using minorities and race to get popular, oh haha white men small pp haha. Idk what the writers were thinking when they made alot of things about race for a show who doesnt see race

this show embodies the phrase "my expectations are low but what the fk"

"For those of you that are visually impaired" The group of lucky people that haven't witnessed this train wreck of a show

Mindy grew up with rich parents, never worked a day job, and was handed a Hollywood job through her parents contacts and influence. So when she wrote Fred as a spoiled rich kid with no soul, she’s really writing herself. This is what we in the business call “projection” and “classic Freudian slip”

@mystoxxiide9043

Жыл бұрын

ah, the joys of nepotism

@simsgirlgem

Жыл бұрын

You think she throw a tantrum if someone pointed that out to her?

@morganb8250

Жыл бұрын

Aren’t her parents doctors though? How would they have contacts in Hollywood? I’m not defending Mindy, I’m just asking

@simsgirlgem

Жыл бұрын

@@morganb8250 maybe they’re doctors for the stars?

@michaelterrell5061

Жыл бұрын

@@simsgirlgem Yes, like a first grader.

Velma: sassy nerd that sticks up to herself letting you know she’s the smart Fred: strong leader who make you feel everything in control Daphne: the emotional support of her team giving advice to her friends Shaggy: a open book he never hides his emotion wear his heart on his sleeve Scooby: comedic relief that makes you smile in your hardest time

@mitchfletcher2386

Жыл бұрын

Scrappy: the tough street kid who thinks the world of his uncle and always wants to help

@mranima748

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 scooby:

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

@@mranima748 Gone Reduced to Atoms

@mirceazaharia2094

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Flim Flam or Vince the Sorcerer from The Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo.

@mcstabbins4501

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchfletcher2386 scrappy: we do not speak his name

“I identify as her character” rewrites her completely to be herself.

Wednesday: Fans loving it, convincing the executives to make a Season 2. Velma: Executives making a Season 2 despite universal backlash within the first two episodes.

This show is the proof that the phrase " I expected nothing, and I'm still let down" works.

@wojak-sensei6424

Жыл бұрын

No matter how bitter, toxic, or hateful the backlash may get, the show itself would still outdo it in all 3 categories. I swear, this is the most unlikable and charmless show that I've seen in a while.

@juanarocha8629

Жыл бұрын

Fine if they want to write this trash, just don't relate it to scooby doo

@dracodracarys2339

Жыл бұрын

The bar was so low it was a tripping hazard in Hell yet here they are, limbo dancing with the Devil.

@rockscousteau

Жыл бұрын

@@wojak-sensei6424 Your user name Sounds like You are a Bald Headed Dude that practices Karate in your parents garage. Am I close? Or is it the basement?

@NAMIIBEAUTE

Жыл бұрын

No

It’s kinda sad when Puss In Boots The Last Wish, an animated family film with a talking cat is more deep and mature than this show that claims to be aimed at adults

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Do not compare Puss in Boots 2 to this monstrosity, People actually cared and gave a crap when they made Puss in Boots 2 and didn't just crap on the legacy of its franchise like Velma did

@tristanhartup4936

Жыл бұрын

That's a constant problem I've been noticing with these kind of shows, children's cartoons seem to far more adult whilst adult cartoon appear to be more childish.

@bruhism173

Жыл бұрын

You guys want deep? I heard of the story of a at gunner in Stalingrad named burdyshev was sent to flank the Germans tank and was captured, and told them to attack their position's "weakest" point which was actually where they had their machine gun with last 250 rounds, and the gunner sent them all downrange at the German mob thinking they had ran out of ammo, they all scattered for cover and the gunner was hit in the hand but did not stop firing, about an hour later the Germans led burdyshev on a pile of rubble infront of us and shot him for leading them into my machine gun, we soon heard the sound of caterpillar tracks and knew it was over guardsmen said goodbye to one another and I carved into the wall "Rodimstevs guardsmen fought and died for their country here" a few months later during more research on a unit level this reappears, part of rodimstevs guardsmen sent an at gunner out to hit the advancing Germans and then sent them to their deaths in one last act of defiance, this hits deep, not an animated show about *wokeingrad*

@ryman1933

Жыл бұрын

@@tristanhartup4936 the worlds been backwards for a while now

@VelociraptorWithInternet

Жыл бұрын

the scene where shaggy became shredded after drinking that potion in the movie had more deep and mature topics

I feel bad for the animators who worked on this show. They put in a lot of effort for the show to be just bad from every other aspect.

@ahmedaliyu1495

6 күн бұрын

Animation Decent

You broke my heart, Steve. I could’ve gone my whole life without knowing that this prime nomination of a one season blunder, has been gassed up for another season. Between this in the cancellation of inside job, I have further lost faith in humanity 😓

Velma laughing at poor Norville during his confession was unnecessarily cruel.

@shorewall

Жыл бұрын

Oof, even if that were the only bad thing, I would have a hard time liking Velma after that.

@eldermillennial8330

Жыл бұрын

Just to drive home how clueless and indifferent they were, Shaggy should have been a Lebanese Arab Druze, same as Casey Kasim who voiced him. They brought back old Fred’s voice as his dad, they might have done the same with Casey if he was still alive, maybe make him his dad and get another guy to play him, too, but Lebanese. It would have been a good homage.

@seekittycat

Жыл бұрын

He was pouring his heart out and she just ignored him 😭😭.

@casualcrisis6349

Жыл бұрын

honestly both sides are bad, guy chose the moment when velma was having hallucinations due to trauma from her mom leaving to confess his love, meanwhile she's kinda despicable for laughing at him honestly expressing his feelings. like, every character is so bad in their own ways, it's so confusing and saddening.

@Elizabean1984

Жыл бұрын

Most relatable part of the show from what I've seen.

I love the irony that Mindy Kaling makes Velma character perfect and makes fun of Fred . She sees herself as Velma yet she is basically a rich spoiled incompetent brat in real life just like the Fred is in this show. 😂

@The.Nasty.

Жыл бұрын

Projection of her own life and experiences… self centered know it alls and rich entitled out of touch millionaires.

@DelightfullyMADD

Жыл бұрын

I do agree about Mindy basically being like this version of Fred, basically a stupid, vapid overpriviliged (wo)manchild who's coasted through life, though in her case it was a mixture of privileged upbringing mixed with good ol fashioned Affirmative Action. I don't however agree with your take that the Velma caricature (I refuse to call her a character, she has not earned that distinction) is perfect. If that was Mindy's goal... god DAMN she sucks at writing even more than I originally thought

@edcaous

Жыл бұрын

Velma's character isn't perfect, it's just that other characters don't point out her shortcomings for whatever reason.

@lucikruxapache9034

Жыл бұрын

@Flare ah yes woman, the source of all evil

@saulsulca5010

Жыл бұрын

@Flare show was written by an *incompetente* woman.

2:30 "the essence of Velma is not necessarily tied to her whiteness" Oh darling, you managed to remove more than her whiteness

It feels like the creator was a fan of Scooby-Doo, and a REALLY BIG fan of Daria, and tried to mix the two...

@bezoticallyyours83

4 ай бұрын

Daria was sarcastic and anti-social, but she wasn't the bully most of the time.

My main concern was the making light of sexual assault, a stepmother doing erotic photography with the daughter in the room, and the rampant sexualization of minors. This was supposed to be a feminist retelling by Mindy Kaling, a self-proclaimed feminist. Yet it goes against everything it supposedly represents.

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Mindy is just Seth MacFarlane or Jimmy Fallon/Kimmel (I honestly can't tell those two apart and am not entirely convinced they aren't the same person) but but brown, female, and without the broken clock moments of accidentally being funny.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Bro Imagine if a dude was naked and was doing that to Velma the show would be cancelled

@SnrubSource

Жыл бұрын

Also the insane amount of racism, but I guess it's okay for Tumblr as long as it's against white people right?

@ManiyaVinas

Жыл бұрын

Libfem

@osmanyousif7849

Жыл бұрын

These actors are the last people to be giving us a lecture about anything, considering there own nepotism.

This just feels like Twitter tried to write a show, and Velma was the result of it 💀

@highfivepaw

Жыл бұрын

Even twitter hates it, that’s how bad it is

@BigBossIvan

Жыл бұрын

@@highfivepaw both wrong… something this foul could only come from Reddit.

@ntfoperative9432

Жыл бұрын

@@BigBossIvan even reddit hates it. Legit I bet if you took this down below, Satan would hate it, and say that's going to far on the suffering

@QuackZack

Жыл бұрын

This does have huge Twitter vibes to it: Race-swapping characters with no real good reason and mocks those that question it, anti-white and anti-rich humor, meta humor, the only main character that is white and male feels deliberately made pathetic, show that berates the viewer for some reason.

@sairus3239

Жыл бұрын

@@QuackZack and dont forget that its a 18+ rated show that almost literally says "you are an adult who watches cartoons. Shame on you!"

I really love this show, my favorite part was when she said, "It's Velming time!" and velmad all over them.

@BakaTaco

Жыл бұрын

I'd really quite prefer if she never velmad over anything again.

@chiepah2

Жыл бұрын

@@BakaTaco What, no, it's really a great show and I think they should waste... I mean invest a lot more money into it.

it feels like for the first time in a century, everyone has united together to hate on something.

Funny how they say Velma isn't defined by being white but in the same interview, "YES, Fred had to be white cause he's define by his whiteness" just to fit their vision.

@providence1517

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention they said the original Fred was a white man who loved to hog all the credit. Not Velma's Fred, the OG Fred. That is honestly how you know they royally fucked up.

@ragercarnage8609

Жыл бұрын

Yea, he wasn’t even the original rich character. Pretty sure that was shaggy. This series has no admiration or interest for the franchise was just needed the name to promote it.

@sirxcasotay8834

Жыл бұрын

Man, I miss the net addict, trap man himbo

@hannahblurp9360

Жыл бұрын

@@ragercarnage8609 Daphne is supposed to be the only rich character

@CantusTropus

Жыл бұрын

@@ragercarnage8609 Skinsuit, that's all this is - a hollowed out shell pretending to be a beloved franchise to lure you in, but inside, nothing but enemy propaganda.

The worst part for me is how angry, bitter and mean spirited this show feels. It's like the writers used it to cathartically air out all their grievances. I bet they felt great after doing so, but the result is a very off-putting, almost unwatchable show.

@realswobby

Жыл бұрын

And this bitterness now spreads like a virus

@MindinViolet

Жыл бұрын

I feel as if there is a trend toward selfish protagonists in entertainment. Back when Seinfeld was written, the narcissism of the characters was the joke. Today, the narcissism of the characters is un-ironic and unintended. I sometimes find myself wanting shows with more moral characters.

@starthefrakkfangirl6094

Жыл бұрын

Just seeing the clips themselves drained my energy and overall mood from watching them. It's like having a discussion with the negative people I'm surrounded by on a Daily Basis.

@solouno2280

Жыл бұрын

Not the first rodeo... Thundercats roar existed

@solouno2280

Жыл бұрын

@@MindinViolet what about Dr House?

Nothing brings more joy than seeing this show being completely forgotten 10 months later

Funny thing about this character, you look her up on heroes wiki you’ll never find her on heroes wiki. You can only find her on villains wiki. She is described as a obsessed egotist. The crimes she commits is just unbelievable. The part about her being run over it was hilarious. I mean I don’t know what they were thinking adding Mindy Kaling on there. As far as I’m concerned with Puss in boots, last wish being a meme with your own irredeemable monster apparently there was a joke made where Scooby Doo fans call Mindy Kaling an irredeemable monster

Mindy Kaling identified so much with Velma. This is why she changed everything about the character, because you know, identifying with the character and all that.

@Telegrxxm.me-at.The_Volgun

Жыл бұрын

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@Dennis-nc3vw

Жыл бұрын

I will never believe a woman so obsessed with race felt she could identify with a white girl.

@solouno2280

Жыл бұрын

So... If I write Recess can I turn Spinelli into a short sized boy?

@addisonvaughan99

Жыл бұрын

Does that mean I can rewrite Snow White as a cute femboy and the dwarves as his harem

@exotixzamateurva8957

Жыл бұрын

@@addisonvaughan99 😨

Without the Scooby-Doo characters, there would be nothing marketable about this show at all. That's why they did it. Velma is how Mindy sees herself. Fred is how she actually is

@alexvaughan1013

Жыл бұрын

The classic Rick and Jerry conundrum!

It’s awesome you put out a video that received this much support man! I remember watching your watership down video a few years ago and loving it

how did this become a detective show to a girl finding out her sexuality and stuff I honestly appreciate that no one took the show by its race and stuff but by how the plot goes

I have never seen a writer self insert themselves into a story as hard as this.

@shorewall

Жыл бұрын

This is like "My Immortal" levels of bad fanfic.

@kouriier6112

Жыл бұрын

rebecca sugar?

@gerragotheallidile

Жыл бұрын

@@kouriier6112 wut?

@zxt5148

Жыл бұрын

Im not starfire

@ashurad_fox5991

Жыл бұрын

I'm not starfire is way worse, and star guardian spice...

So wait, she identify so much with Velma that she totally changed her entire character into something completly new ? I don't get it

@Piqcked

Жыл бұрын

That citation logic makes absolutely NO fucking sense. Wannabe woke woman.

@SechsGrammCaratillo

Жыл бұрын

This Velma is literally supposed to be her self-insert character in the show. Velma represents herself, and it's fucking pathetic

@animebrat76

Жыл бұрын

… welcome to SJW world where I is We and she is he… (apologies to trans)

@Victor_Graves

Жыл бұрын

@@animebrat76 ??

@wnyduchess

Жыл бұрын

@@animebrat76 you'll grow out of whatever this comment is buddy

The pilot episode “joke” falls over when you look at most other shows with a pilot episode

The animation and voice acting are so solidly workmanlike that I feel really bad for everyone who worked on this show. I know, they got paid, but it's gotta feel bad to see your hard work ripped apart by such a shoddy script.

Honestly, the reason why this show was the highest animated show premiere on HBO Max was because there were literally no other animated shows due to the purge.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

and also because the show was so hilariously bad people were willing to see how bad it actually is

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

They killed Infinity Train for this.

@greengreens6347

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 never forget

@rooksclown316

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 and Close Enough

@makotoyuki345

Жыл бұрын

@@rooksclown316 the wound is a crater now. Stop opening them please!

it's deeply upsetting that we are in the time and age where bad show keeps on coming, while good one got canceled left and right.

@playmaker3116

Жыл бұрын

cough cough Netflix cancelling Inside Out because they wanted a terrible decision to start 2023 cough cough

@LocksAndChains

Жыл бұрын

@@playmaker3116 They also cancelled 1899 and the Dark Crystal show... I will never forgive.

@ghates

Жыл бұрын

Fuck that new CEO at HBO max.. They cancelled that new Batgirl movie but put out shit like this?!

@Sky_Blaze

Жыл бұрын

They want to keep you dumbed down. I remember ABC hyped up this show ",the family" in 2015 I watched it and was actually interested, they leave it on a cliffhanger..and they cancel it for more lame game shows/sitcoms that have been done to death. Tv execs are clueless and it's why people don't watch cable anymore.

@VeryFamousActor

Жыл бұрын

Meerkat Manor, Rise of the Dynasty. One of the best docu-series of the last decade. And nobody knows about it... why? Because streaming services have literally made it impossible to watch.

Norville doesn't seem to even eat huge amount of foods (Which Shaggy loves to do whenever he gets the chance), he's a Total Drama impostor.

“Scooby-Don’t”! 😂 I think that’s gotta be the title for the “honest trailer” for the show. Also, the only real mystery in “Velma” is… how it got green lit?

Fred’s dad being mad that his underage son doesn’t drink just proves this show wasn’t made to be about teenagers and the scooby doo gang

@mattpace1026

Жыл бұрын

Probably just another poor attempt at making a "joke" about rich people, talking about how their parents will let them get away with anything.

@massimilianoreali4398

Жыл бұрын

@@mattpace1026 the major of crystal cove want to differ

@mattpace1026

Жыл бұрын

@@massimilianoreali4398 Wtf are you on about? That series is not at all canon with this one. Even if the town in this one has that name too, you're talking like the fictional cartoon characters are real people. Were you high when you made your comment?!

@theenderdestruction2362

5 ай бұрын

​@@massimilianoreali4398the mayor was. Amazing father, I felt like he genuinely did care for Fred also I 100% headcannon he knew his actual parents personalities and decided they didn't deserve a child

Gonna call it now, this isn't Velma, this is the self-insert character of one of the writers and she is frustrated because her entire life was just consuming media which made her confuse media experience with real life experience, which makes her so bitter.

@CrypticSquid1

Жыл бұрын

Hey now, I take exception to that: *my* entire life was just consuming media and I can assure you it doen't make one so jaundiced; this person is just a misanthrope.

@Treyworld

Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right.

@xthee_0nly_1x11

Жыл бұрын

This

@laurenwasinger9436

Жыл бұрын

About a billion percent this.

@pikslap1185

Жыл бұрын

I have a coworker like this lol. Middle class and everything.

James Gunn made scrappy doo the main villain of the original Scooby doo movie to remove him from all of culture because he hated him and wanted other people to hate him so what if the writers of this show want to get rid of everything scooby doo related

Season 2…That’s it…I can’t hold back anymore. I HATE EVERYTHINGGGG 😭

That "Scooby don't" joke made me laugh harder than the entire show so far (barely an exhale)

@mikekasich836

Жыл бұрын

so if Mindy kaling can justify changing the race of the character because she is a different race and identifies with them does that mean white people can do that too? can I make black panther a white guy because I identify with him? maybe we should do a remake of blade where he's played by a white guy

@gg_sam7847

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekasich836 I don't care dude

@HellecticMojo

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekasich836 it was already done for years. Don't be dumb

@jai22udhdbdjdjdud

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekasich836 Let's make fat albert white

@zaytaz9331

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekasich836 FR

Velma is introduced attacking a naked girl (daphne) in a shower amongst other girls, then multiple times mentions how she would love to kill just so many people, then we find out that growing up she was horrible and over the course of years destroyed her mother's eye. The way the show comes off, if Scooby was in it, it would probably be Velma 'watching' Norville's dog, and then using peanut butter to pretend the dog is Fred while cracking jokes about peanut allergies or white people spending lots of money to watch. And I want to believe that's why Scooby wasn't allowed in the show.

@elchomper.1063

Жыл бұрын

It was a show made in 1970 for 7 year olds to watch while they're dad beat their mom. It was never intended to be aimed at adults and that's why any Scooby Doo specifically made for an adult demographic is gonna fail.

@rolinmaiz1694

Жыл бұрын

@@elchomper.1063 Wow, someone's bitter.

@curosaber

Жыл бұрын

@@elchomper.1063 Wow. What crawled up your butt?

@super_burstmode3652

Жыл бұрын

@@elchomper.1063 Gotta love people trying to be edgy for no reason lol. Not everyone had a fucked up family my friend. Most people just liked saturday morning cartoons.

@penextrexe4380

Жыл бұрын

@@elchomper.1063 my guy, not all people had such a toxic family as yours. sad to know tho bro.

I really wish I could be a fly on the wall when the brains behind this show (whoever it was) saw the universal negative reaction, like you mention I think it was made controversial on purpose, but I can't tell if they were deliberately pushing the envelope and failed or if the people writing this are terminally online twitter types and they were like the comic writer @ 8:58

The fact that this is what my favorite show as a 7 year old is mostly known for nowadays makes me sad.

I would have loved Fred to be the basic jock, i.e. the popular football player, but who has had a passion since childhood for the great mysteries of life: Atlantis, Stonehenge etc... Except that he is always misunderstood by his friends, who are not at all interested in this kind of history. During a party, he ends up talking to the girl he likes, Daphne, captain of the cheerleaders, and the conversation ends up deviating to Fred's passion for mysteries. Daphnee tells him about her passion for crime podcasts, especially those that remain unexplained or involve supernatural phenomena, such as the disappearance of a young girl who was in their university. The two end up spending the evening in a corner explaining their favorite cases and all their theories to each other but end up coming across some very rational articles debunking fake ghost videos written by a student from the same campus, Velma, also passionate about mysteries but very Cartesian in her approach. Daphne remains convinced that the mysterious disappearance of the girl is really supernatural and the two decide to contact Velma via social networks. Meanwhile, Shaggy and Scoobi also live on campus, where Shaggy works part time as a janitor because he can't afford college and they are victims of several supernatural phenomena in one of the university buildings. They too decide to go see Velma because they are terrified of what they have seen and they need to show it to an “expert”. And as time goes on, everyone meets and the team is formed.

@falendemo546

Жыл бұрын

This sounds like a great idea!

@princessazulaofthefirenati5870

Жыл бұрын

Why is no one funding this?

@Gem-xc6rv

Жыл бұрын

Somehow, a theoretical from a KZread comment about their past life was a lot better than anything Mindy Kaling just produced.

@meooooooooooo

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gem-xc6rv yes

@Noelle_Holiday

Жыл бұрын

Wow. You've literally just written a better show idea than Mindy ever was. Props to you!👍

What boggles my mind is that they blatantly admitted that the writers weren’t good enough to work Scooby into this but they’ll say that people hate the show because of racism and not…..terrible writing?

@Noelle_Holiday

Жыл бұрын

The same thing also happens with High Guardian Spice and Santa Inc., too! It's almost as if this show was desperately trying to be the spiritual successor of those two terrible shows!

@CantusTropus

Жыл бұрын

It's not an accident. Woke writing is ALWAYS like this.

@Noelle_Holiday

Жыл бұрын

@@CantusTropus Yeah, it's so fucking awful. Remember those days when companies only hire writers based on their portfolio and experience alone, and not because of their association with a specific "woke" group or having such an overprivileged lifestyle that they view all criticism as crimes against humanity?

@HabitualThinker

Жыл бұрын

@@CantusTropus it’s so bad that people who are woke don’t even like it lmfao

@viljamtheninja

Жыл бұрын

That's a pretty facetious argument though. I mean, the writing IS shit, but the fact that they couldn't work Scooby into it has nothing to do with that. A good writer isn't necessarily one that can make anything out of anything and fit anything into anything. You wouldn't say that the writers of, I don't know, Deadwood were bad writers because they couldn't work Scooby Doo into it. Any good writer would know that Scooby doesn't fit into the tone or the world of Deadwood. And the motivation seems similar here - Scooby, as a character, did not fit the themes, the tone, or the world of the show that they were going for. Nothing in that indicates bad writing. The bad writing of what is actually there is what indicates bad writing.

2:58 Let me say this again. If in order to give representation to one group you have to take away representation from another group THEN YOU AREN'T REPRESENTING SHIT. Imagine this, character A is originally black, but then I make a new version of their show and now character A is white. Even if I claim that "Oh but I'm trying to represent white people" everyone will get mad at me because that's clearly whitewashing. Now, let's reverse this situation. Character A is originally white, and then I make character A black. See? That's not right either, in order to represent black people I shouldn't take away the representation from white people. If you want to represent an specific culture, nationality, sexuality or gender then don't make beloved and already established characters into something completely different! That's not representation, that's just you wanting to get money using already famous characters. True representation would be if you created a character that's part of a minority and made their own story.

@cloudtx

Жыл бұрын

You're 100% correct. Unfortunately Hollywood doesn't really care about creating new characters with a diverse background, they just want to take the easy/cheap path of rewriting already made characters with a different skin tone to get clicks on the internet.

@oof9762

Жыл бұрын

@@cloudtx Right? I hate this so much, I wish more shows representing minorities would be CREATED instead of just being an copy without any soul or hard work into it

I’m glad I haven’t watched this. My memories of Velma will be safe

It's just like with Riverdale: they took characters that already existed, messed them up and put them in situations that have absolutely nothing to do with the original story. They may as well have just made their own characters.

@peterang78

Жыл бұрын

True. But at least with Riverdale, later down the season it becomes more entertaining and less focus on the teen, Highschool, cringe worthy drama, meanwhile Velma is a show with no entertaining value, and is only use to mock it audience.

@Olivia-ek9ib

Жыл бұрын

And just like Riverdale, they made sexualizing their teenage characters the main objective...

@GAndreC

Жыл бұрын

The thing is when they tried doing their own characters they were also terrible and nobody watched even the pilot episode outside of whoever greenlit them. Like the mindy show and a whole lot of other projects that died at launch. They borrowed the Scooby Doo IP but then forgot the show is about scooby and mysteries not about a brooding teenager that gets along with nobody and is unable to see how smug and ignorant they are

@Mels0103

Жыл бұрын

@@Olivia-ek9ib Eh, I'm not too bothered about that since they're not real.

@margarethmichelina5146

Жыл бұрын

And just like Riverdale, the dialogues are cringe and nonsense

I hate how they made Velma a stereotype of the angry black lady.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

Velma is an indian in this show, but her personality is the same as a chronically online twitter user

@JustBuyTheWaywardsRealms

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 that's terrible

@damienearl8302

Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Woah, it's almost as if the writer's a chronica-

@Kydino

Жыл бұрын

Not a stereotype, she's literally just the show creator's self insert. If you wanna judge anyone go after her.

@MforMovesets

Жыл бұрын

Shhh that's no stereotype that's what cartoons these days call inclusion.

Watching Mindy Kaling's Velma should be registered as a firm of cruel and unusual punishment.

1:17 I’m from the future. It got worse.

It's funny they chose to make her Indian but they didn't give her any features of an Indian, they literally just drew Velma and coloured her in.

@kingofichigo

Жыл бұрын

I know! It's super distracting 😑

@BaggedBread

Жыл бұрын

what features would be different tho lol

@sacknutgaming2428

Жыл бұрын

@@BaggedBread her accent maybe

@bluesherbet2741

Жыл бұрын

I know right 😩

@Moshpitti

Жыл бұрын

@@BaggedBread Maybe something traditional jewelry or markings? I'm pretty sure even those are worn by people who like to wear their heritage on their sleeve, so to speak, but I come from a country so homogeneous that I'm honestly curious too lol

Can't believe I'd ever miss the simple frustration of watching OG Velma falling and feeling the ground while almost calmly going "I can't find my glasses"

@gogousa6661

Жыл бұрын

“Gosh I am looking for my glasses, what am I a white girl first time experiencing an obstacle”

@francoquispe656

Жыл бұрын

A cult classic

@kieranhair8973

Жыл бұрын

@@gogousa6661 Fkn hell, that's literally how the writers of this show would write that line.

I'm burned out on the franchise, but this show still rubs me the wrong way. Doesn't help that I'm tired of snarky parodies/deconstructions. I just want to enjoy things, damnit! (Sees that there's going to be a season 2) ...Oh sonova-!

This looks like one of those short-lived Cartoon Network shows you'd see as a kid somewhere in the early 2010's and never see it again years later.

Ah yes, the "I'm gonna write the main character based on me bc I'm so cool, but i'm actually an insufferable horrible worthless person" move

@DougBurgum4VP

Жыл бұрын

She was on the office so we have to just let her do what she wants.

@minaisfab17

Жыл бұрын

@@DougBurgum4VP she WROTE for The Office

@anerrorhasoccurred8727

Жыл бұрын

The Onision approach 💀

Velma is like Daria and the snooty ginger girl from Lilo and Stitch were combined to make the most obnoxiously snarky character that the creators could think up. It’s not even Velma at this point, it’s just “Pretentious self-insert in a Scooby Doo cosplay”. Edit: I like Daria. She isn’t a bad character. My point is that when you take her sarcastic wit and dial it up to 1000, you create an unlikable personality and any positive characteristics that character may have is overshadowed by their snarkiness. It’s like pouring a gallon of ketchup on a french fry… both things taste good, but when there’s way too much of one thing and way too little of another, the meal sucks. Velma took Daria’s personality and went way overboard with the edginess. Hopefully the creators learn from this and improve.

@Mels0103

Жыл бұрын

I am SO relieved to see someone who also recognized that Daria (the character) was the worst. It's the type of show that you watch for every other character.

@Khashmonet

Жыл бұрын

Daria was a great show, though.

@dewolf123

Жыл бұрын

@@Mels0103 Tbf Daria being that way is what gives the charm and its the point, she's feeling like she is surrounded by idiots and just gave up optimism all together

@descendantgaming5410

Жыл бұрын

You mean Myrtle? The answer to the snooty ginger in Lilo and Stitch

@rockscousteau

Жыл бұрын

They need to bring in an animated Iron Skeik and he puts Velma in the Camel Clutch and offs her in episode...well the next episode

I’m glad that adult animated shows that try too hard to be shocking and offensive are being criticized more by the mainstream now. In the 2000s, when there were too many adult cartoons like this, the mainstream seemed to just tolerate it. Not that there wasn’t any criticism at all (there definitely was), but the mainstream seemed to just be quiet about it, as if it was supposed to be the norm and not worth complaining about.

@bliczb8772

Жыл бұрын

So, couple of fundamental things here - whilst there was a number of 2000's cartoons for adults, I'm not sure I'd say there was "too many like this". There were varying differences of quality. That being said, I'd also wager that alot of it simply boils down to the fact that plenty of Adult Cartoons weren't really all that popular, with only notable exceptions being Simpsons, Family Guy and South Park. Alot of it boils down simply to the fact that in recent years, we had explosion in that type of content, in turn making it harder to ignore, as it was spreading. Think of it like mold - when it's in a corner of a room, you might not notice it right away, but once it starts spreading...

@troin3925

Жыл бұрын

@@bliczb8772 I never thought of it that way. You have a good point.

@eeyorehaferbock7870

4 ай бұрын

@@bliczb8772don’t forget the rise of the Internet, including streaming.

I actually managed to find 30 people who managed to sit through episode 1 and when i asked them why they watched it despite the bad press, 17 of them (who were all boys) said "Daphne is naked"

"I identified so much with her" In that you think you're smarter than everyone else. Never seen Velma as strictly bitter towards any of her FRIENDS

@Resi1ience

Жыл бұрын

Clearly, she identified with the _caricature_ of Velma portrayed in this show.

@LadyLeomon

Жыл бұрын

Real Velma actually had friends though ... Cosplay Velma has targets she manipulates and uses ... honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if she turned out to be the main villain 😒😒😒

@Attaxalotl

9 ай бұрын

@@LadyLeomon That would've been an epic twist, but Mindy Kaling wasn't self-aware enough to do that.

Never forget the actual good mature shows that they cancelled for THIS.

@pipo2704

Жыл бұрын

Omg why did they cancel Inside Job 😭 My bad this is netflix, I don't own HBO SOBS

@ocboy5163

Жыл бұрын

Never forgive, never forget.

@TheRealNormanBates

Жыл бұрын

like *Infinity Train?*

@noneofyourbusiness27

Жыл бұрын

@@pipo2704 They canceled inside job?!

@noneofyourbusiness27

Жыл бұрын

This was a while ago, but I still miss the venture bros😭

I had a friend bet me that I can't find one funny joke in this show, so I ended up watching until I found one. Saying "everyone get inside this mystery . . jalopy" then slightly looking at the camera made me laugh. It's something you'd see on one of Cartoon Network's bumpers. In fact, it was done except with megas XLR. Good job Velma, you got one decent joke, in ten episodes, but a decent joke nevertheless!

i already forgot it existed until i got reminded of this cashgrab animated series

"Scooby-Don't" is a funnier joke than any attempt at humor made by the show at all.

@williampulfer-melville8536

Жыл бұрын

Heck if they did a Flintstones animated series in this sort of style it would definitely be a yabba dabba don't

Let me be clear, Miles Morales was never made to be a race swapped Peter, he was made to be his own character way before the movie came to be

@starsiadraws

Жыл бұрын

People don't know that because Marvel only saw mainstream success with the MCU and none of those people have ever picked up a comic book

@Amy_jo_

Жыл бұрын

I hope you get more likes, people should know this!

@Karaetify

Жыл бұрын

Yea that was the point he made in the video.

@IzzyMarrie

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm glad he pointed this out in the video, but the comic lover in me wishes he acknowledged that he wasn't ever intended to be an alternate Peter. He's always been his own person. Also, sidenote, that movie got me to reading Miles in the comics. Such a wonderful character all around, and I have a hard time saying who I love more: Miles or Peter

@tinybitofstardust

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! My dad is a marvel fan and he didn’t like “black Peter” at first, but once he saw that Miles Morales was his own character and not a race swapped Peter Parker, he ended up liking Spiderverse

I'd after the first 3 or so episodes most people can get an idea if they'll like a show or not. The negative reputation this show has is impressive and yet its also fueling it to get another season

The parody characters of the Scooby gang in Venture Bros (which were based on real-life serial killers and psychos) were more compelling that this.

8:36 that’s a really good point. It’s odd how Mindy sees herself so much in Velma, but when they make a series with her as Velma. Velma is unrecognizable personally wise.

@whitedragoness23

Жыл бұрын

That’s what happens when your brain is constantly on drugs

@kylehenline3245

Жыл бұрын

Kinda weird to know Mindy is so full of hate, and not even the potentially funny type of outrage.

@liamphibia

11 ай бұрын

Well now nobody likes Mindy anymore.

The best way I can describe it is as if a bunch of children made an adult show like how they think an adult show is like.

@Uhlersoth77

Жыл бұрын

Terminally online children, at that.

@zaberfang

Жыл бұрын

Actual children wouldn't even write this crap.

@I_want_a_discount_in_life

Жыл бұрын

I saw my classmates write better than this in many ocasions when they were like, 10, sure, not every child is going to be good be they sure as hell are better than this...this... thing

@yeet12937

Жыл бұрын

@@zaberfang as a child I just want a series about cool adventures and shit 😭

@d3nza482

Жыл бұрын

It's a show made by 40+ year-olds, for "children". When you're a generation older than your target audience you can't help thinking of them as "kids these days". And you create "for them" according to your preconceptions of "them". As kids. These days.

I was thinking the same thing when it came to Into the Spiderverse, it definitely wouldn’t have gone over well if they just made Peter Parker black, the fact that they took the time to flesh out a character and keep things original is what made it intriguing(I’m referring to the character itself, I know Miles existed in the comics before Spiderverse was released).

Shaggy canonically hates his name.

I remember seeing the 420 joke, and I was just so confused on why they would put something referencing the stigma against adults watching animation in a show made for adults

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

Жыл бұрын

The same reason why they keep making fun of cliches despite having every modern media cliche in the book, they are so unaware

@mr.j9103

Жыл бұрын

I saw that clip and was like…did they forget what show they made?

@maryfreegirl2029

Жыл бұрын

"Self aware" bullsht

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

I've honestly never seen a show that hates itself, it's audience, and its source material so much while continuing to exist. I mean Michael Haneke made "Funny Games" in many ways as a slasher film that hates slasher films and the sorts of people who choose to watch slasher films (ironically it's now become legendary within the horror fandom as one of the most effective and grueling slasher films ever made,) but there's a difference between a semi-avant garde auteur doing that sort of thing for a 90 minute arthouse film and a major production company doing it with one of their most profitable properties for a show that's supposed to become a long running series.

@fmor2779

Жыл бұрын

That is called woke comedy. Is when an inmature teen saw something work on a show but didn't got that the joke needed context, timing or, you know, sense and made up something believing it would be funny.

Velma could have been a show about a girl who emulated her and wanted her to be the main character. We have characters like that. They admire someone and literally base their whole life around them. And in trying to recreate the gang, she actually does uncover a hidden mystery about her town. Just...how can they not have Scooby? He's literally the show.

@bugsauce2261

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigbruhmoment541 Oh my god, that would've actually been great!

@mellowmallow4855

Жыл бұрын

@@Bigbruhmoment541 YES!!! (Your profile name matches your genius!)

@jujublue4426

Жыл бұрын

So same principle as the Lupin Netflix series? That could've been interesting, at least much better than this dumpster fire

2 months later I'm watching this and I'm literally only here because I love your stuff Velma has been forgotten and utterly irrelevant to anyone at this point

the fun thing about scooby doo was that none of the original characters acted like their stereotypes. which was pretty progressive in terms of character tropes in the 70s. daphne was NOT a stuck up priss, fred was not a douche, shaggy wasnt dangerous commie corrupting the youth, and daphne wasnt prude and awkward. by subverting the characters they went right back to the 90s teen highschool tropes