It completely depends on the game, for more immersive games I like less hud, I think Insugency Sandstorm is perfect and shouldn't change a thing, but for more complex and fast games like Apex I do rather have more hud elements so I have fast access to information I may need in the moment

@zethicc7557

2 жыл бұрын

indeed, but they need to add to remove some of the hud like "press 4 to heal" or "press R to reload" stuff.

@ZayoFPS

2 жыл бұрын

@@zethicc7557 If you mean the actual keybinds on screen pretty sure you can turn those off.

@champstation143

2 жыл бұрын

I dont really need a huge as hell button in the middle of my gun to tell me when my ult is ready

@sneakybeaky9613

2 жыл бұрын

Same, with Escape From Tarkov, there is no Hud, you get a small box telling you information after you doing a certain action, which I love so much.

@slazerlombardi

2 жыл бұрын

Insurgency... What a great game.

Garbaj: "Huds shouldn't be too full of things" Payday 2 players: "I specifically get a mod to get as much info on my hud as possible"

@microsoftjacket9641

2 жыл бұрын

*old hoxhud with everything checked* "yea i can totally see the screen now

@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106

2 жыл бұрын

Playing Armorer without a custom HUD is pain

@cisarovnajosefina4525

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I DO need to know the Temperature and moisture of the air

@sydssolanumsamsys

2 жыл бұрын

i defo need to have color coded ips attached to each player's name in the top left corner

@nubbe8986

2 жыл бұрын

Pocohud user: "Hmm yess i need to know how long is my interact cooldown"

After a little while I actually found hipfiring in Insurgency *easier* than other games-the bullets go to where the barrel of your gun is pointing, not to the center of the screen. I don't really know how point shooting works in real life, but here it lives up to the name: in close quarters, I shoot by pointing my gun to where I want to land the shot. It seems pretty natural for humans to figure out where a 3D object is pointing in 3D space, certainly a lot more natural than figuring out the exact center of the screen without a marker! It took a bit of time to adjust to this just because ≈every other game does it differently, but it works really well after that.

@eadbert1935

2 жыл бұрын

also, if you're shooting multiple times, it's not that unrealistic you might adjust your fire because you get some indication of where the first bullet went. i don't know how visible the shots are in insurgency, but just from seeing where shots impact you can adjust as a person who's never held a gun, that's how i play paintball nearly at the level of my friends who actually did get some gun training.

@dustrockblues7567

2 жыл бұрын

@@eadbert1935 This is the purpose of tracer rounds if I'm not mistaken!

@ChickentNug

2 жыл бұрын

agreed. I've noticed after playing sandstorm a decent amount that I've actually gotten pretty decent at hipfiring and can snipe from a decent distance without even aiming lol

@icuppj

Жыл бұрын

That literally makes it harder, not easier

@ChickentNug

Жыл бұрын

@@icuppj not true actually, I have a way easier time hipfiring in insurgency than the rng hipfire in other games

I love having no crosshair, it makes accurate point shooting feel rewarding

@Alxasaurus

2 жыл бұрын

That reminds me of Payday2; there is no crosshair (only up to a dot in accessibility settings). The only vanilla ways to assist your aiming are installing laser sight and using ironsights/scopes/sights

@blacky8060

2 жыл бұрын

am i the only one that doesnt need a crosshair to aim ? except maybe in csgo

@yugen

2 жыл бұрын

A crosshair is used to aim. If you want to aim, you aim! Lift the gun up to your eyes. Hipfiring is exactly that - shooting from the hip. In order to be good with it you need practice and it should only be used in certain situations. That's exactly how it should be.

@Yea___

2 жыл бұрын

@@blacky8060 in insurgency i dont even need the laser sight, people like you and me have a good intuitive sense of where the center of the screen is. I know the gun shoots from where the muzzle is pointing and that can be influenced by your movements or the environment, but most of the time the muzzle is pointing at the middle of the screen

@Helperbot-2000

Жыл бұрын

@@yugen *CSGO has entered the chat* jokes aside i agree completely, i dont get how people can bitch about it. really the only reason is that people can just put a physical dot on their screen and basically gain an advantage, but it shouldnt be too much of a problem when you have trained enough

I definitely prefer less HUD elements, but for Apex, I have to argue that almost all the HUD elements are required pieces of information. Of course, having the option to toggle certain elements would help a lot, but I think the type of game it is, with a lot of cooldown mechanics and battle royale resource management, with quick information about your teammates' statuses, I think the crowded HUD is excusable and almost necessary.

@themattbat999

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. The reason Apex has a lot of HUD elements is because there is a lot of info you need to be able to access at a moment's notice

@garbaj

2 жыл бұрын

I guess my biggest issue with the apex hud is how bulky the elements are. I feel like I would find it less distracting if the same information on screen was mostly plain text instead of with all the fancy graphics around it

@drewgraham

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I have always disliked the amount of space the hud in Apex takes but you really do need all of that information. I feel like there is probably some way that they could have designed it so that it didn't take up as much space though and provide a same amount of information. They all take up a lot more room than they need to imo as there is a decent amount of empty space in each element and the elements thst are just displaying that you don't have any heals etc. Should be hidden or have the option to be hidden unless you have those items. Could also do better with the minimap by making smaller and less colorful, don't think a just radar minimap would work.

@Duck9K

2 жыл бұрын

@@garbaj You can turn off certain HUD elements like the button prompts and you can minimise some information like when hovering over items/guns

@jaminonthisbeet3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@garbaj Agreed it's an eye sorr of an hud, but apex being apex chaos is always around the corner and that ugly hud always gets your attention to important information at a glance while being tunneled vision at whatever chaos is happening.

The HUD has a pretty big effect on gameplay. The almost nonexistent HUD of Insurgency is not only to immerse but to force the player to be more aware of everything. To focus on every detail.

@CallMeJoshua

2 жыл бұрын

This but Tarkov

@thelistener1268

2 жыл бұрын

No cross hair makes hip firing asinine as reality. As far as I know hip firing isn't part of any US military doctrine. The closest I can remember seeing is point shooting from high ready in an old field manual, but it was noted only as an emergency reaction to immediately be moved into a sight picture.

@dullerdog

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelistener1268 Exactly, also a crosshair makes any laser completely useless

@Mike-og1ik

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelistener1268 ​ @Josue Exactly. Also the bullets don't come out of the middle of the screen, they come out the end of the barrel, meaning a middle crosshair wouldn't work anyways.

@dankovac1609

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesterprince4949 it's usually shoulder fire. In Squad for example, the guns still has familiar enough recoil when you "hipfire" that it's managable. Personally, when I do it with the AK-74M the visual part of the gun recoiling also helps with "feeling" individual rounds recoiling. Ive never studied recoil patterns in games but any game that does realistic enough ak recoil is familiar to me.

Although not a shooter, i particularly love the HUD in subnautica, how everything fits into little circles and strips of blue really add to the technology vibe. The O2 meter also animates with bubbles when you are in water as well which is a nice touch

@bruvance

2 жыл бұрын

so glad they didn't keep the bars from the beta release, I would have died of death with how bad it looks in comparision

@kronukkkronukk6904

2 жыл бұрын

Also not a shooter, I really liked the HUD, or better the complete lack of it in Hellblade, it fits the immersive experience :)

@ChristianRandorff

Жыл бұрын

Yes, a truly amazing hud.

I remember once going back to Half Life 2 after playing a bunch of shooters that had complicated/busier HUDs (including objective markers) and thinking to myself, "Man, am I gonna be able to know where to go?" Once the game got going, I actually appreciated the minimalist HUD (crosshairs, ammo counter, and health bar), and the level design was good enough for me to always have an idea of where to go without big glaring signs. Sometimes less is more, and if I make a shooter (which I hope to do one day), I'd like to go a minimalist route.

Sandstorm HUD (or lack thereof) makes sense when you consider the type of game sandstorm is. Not to mention, the HUD IS there, but it is hidden behind a key/interaction. For instance: You wanna see the map? Press tab. You wanna see how much ammo you have left? Hold the reload button. You want a "crosshair? Use a laser sight. Personally I love sandstorm HUD since it gives you the Info you want when you need it and it doesn't constantly obstruct your screen with info you might not need most of the time.

@TechSupportDave

2 жыл бұрын

Sandstorm sounds like a well-designed game. Even battlefield1 cannot compare to that kind of design, when all you really NEED to have on-screen is a minimap and your bullet count. I wish more games strove for a minimalistic HUD design, because it really does add to the experience when you're not surrounded by a bunch of information you don't need to see at all times. Hell, even bullet count isn't that important, you can more or less get a "feel" for how much ammo you have remaining by how much you have been shooting.

@TheRyderShotgunn

2 жыл бұрын

you forgot that you can toggle on a compass, even though it doesnt help that much tbh, lol

@74gaara42

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRyderShotgunn the compass is good when u are playing right beside another player cause it not only says north east south or west but also the degree of where u r looking at. i usually turn it on when playing with friends and turn it off when iam not cause iam walking with my buddies together tthe whole time

@TheRyderShotgunn

2 жыл бұрын

@@74gaara42 I keep it on all the time cuz I like how it looks

@Healthandwealth9422

2 жыл бұрын

So basically the other hud related items are there but it adds a logical way to access them, like the ammo counter, it makes sense to take the mag out and look

The choice to remove crosshair is deliberate in Insurgency - you can spend mod points and get laser scope or you can get something else and rely on your understanding of the center of the screen - it's not that hard when you get used to it. In terms of a good hud I really like the new Siege compass - with a pretty minimalistic design it gives you a ton of info. Plus I really like The Division 2 hud - in terms of how much you can customise it - move anything anywhere you like, or add or remove some elements - good stuff

@wojtekpolska1013

2 жыл бұрын

most ppl probably would use an external crosshair. a lot of monitors have a built-in option to enable a crosshair "hardware-side" that just permanently changes a few pixels in the exact center of the screen

@garbaj

2 жыл бұрын

I really like what insurgency is doing. Learning where bullets hit when hipfiring vs when ADS adds a little extra bit of challenge and realism that I appreciate. I guess I just prefer the comfort of having that little green dot in the middle of the screen

@sognar2240

2 жыл бұрын

@@nilsone5209 true, not the center of the screen but rather where your barrel aimed

@energy6830

2 жыл бұрын

But that's the point of tactical/sim shooters. Less info "on" the hud. Cause irl, it's not gonna be there.

@devforfun5618

2 жыл бұрын

@@garbaj well, sometimes it is there just to avoid motion sickness, even in games without any ranged weapon, i guess they removed it because the center of the screen wouldn't always be were you are going to fire, and that would frustrate players

I think that Escape from Tarkov has the best HUD out of any game. Everything required appears only when you need it to be seen, and if you need more info you can get that and more just by going to your inventory.

I like my HUD customizable. Many games allow you to change the HUD size in general. PlanetSide2 allows you to change the size of the minimap. Then, depending on the style of the game, knowing more or less adds to the flavor of the game. A more realistic game would have less info, while a more fun/casual game would have an element showing your ammo for example. For the minimap again, it makes more sense to have it round instead of square, add the compass to it instead of having a huge compass bar at the top of the screen, and seeing a map of the place instead of a blank background really helps getting a sense of distance of your targets (e.g. what side of that wall is the blip coming from?)

For sci fi games I actually like a somewhat cluttered HUD if it fits with the game's aesthetic because I like to pretend it's the display on my character's visor.

@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

2 жыл бұрын

Hl1

@PixyEm

2 жыл бұрын

Metroid Prime??

@junoperberry

2 жыл бұрын

it actually is the display for your character's visor in apex

@nepnep1802

2 жыл бұрын

Halo is a perfect example of that

@nepnep1802

2 жыл бұрын

@@junoperberry can't be? not everyone has a visor, unless its like neural implants or something but that doesn't sound right either

With insurgency sandstorm the loss of information is the main point of no hud, as the original insurgency was designed to be a fps that shows how real soldiers felt in war, so it really lines into their philosophy

@energy6830

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, man. I got a bit icky when the game got compared to 'arcade-y' shooters. But you got the phrase right.

@julianSana

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, for example you have to hold the reload button for the (approximate) ammo count to reveal in the HUD.

@newtonthenewt1400

2 жыл бұрын

@@julianSana Yeah, I completely agree. Feeling the overall weight and how it's distributed within the mag is probably just how it would be like out there in the battlefield in real life without having to take the mag out. Just like the rest of the HUD elements, it gives 'just' enough information.

@thejman3489

2 жыл бұрын

It was the same for Onward. Except it was focused on the visuals, sounds, and gameplay. You were meant to play it and communicate like real soldiers on the battlefield. Getting shot at was loud and terrifying and it only took 1 or 2 bullets to kill you. Of course having it be a VR game is a massive step in terms of immersion.

Small shoutout to Deep Rock Galactic; most of the HUD elements can be customized to hide completely or display temporarily only when needed (throwing flares, taking damage, etc). So you can have quite an immersive experience in the dark caves. Plus, all the weapons have ammo counter displayed on them so it's a huge boon

@comradeklaymore

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's so cool to turn off most of the hud and really get immersed in the dark space alien caves. Especially when you turn your flashlight off and the lighting just looks so nice. Sadly the flashlight is pretty important to have on but it is really cool to turn it off once in a while.

Personally, being someone who grew up on call of duty, halo, and battlefield who then transitioned to more simulated or immersive games, I like the little to no hud option. It's just more skillful, more realistic, and makes you use what you have at your disposal. Like the sound, the environment, and makes you play slower

I really like Battlefield 1’s HUD. I also like that I can adjust it to my liking. Being able to change size and opacity on almost every HUD element is huge.

@reisu_3708

2 жыл бұрын

Battlefield 1 really is the most polished Battlefield game to date. You can really feel how it was a passion project for DICE.

@yoniyakub1400

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, custom hit/headshot markers, size, opacity, customize crosshair was awesome

I think it depends on how "realistic" games tend to present themselves. Less or no HUD is usually used in games that convey realism as opposed to arcade style shooters. A good example would be Project Reality spins found in the original one (Battlefield 2) and Squad.

@DaddyMouse

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Apex has never tried to be realistic. The no fall damage mechanics, the over the top parkour, the way characters can tank a dozen of bullets despite not wearing any armor (I'm looking at you, Loba, Fuse and Maggie). I feel like Apex's HUD is perfectly functional for what the game is.

dude, love these videos and how short they are. nothing overstaying its welcome, always well written and edited. It's refreshing.

I love HUD elements that you can toggle on and off, especially if you can do it on the fly. Sometimes I wanna see the guns i have on screen, other times i just want health and a crosshair for intense situations.

You should be able to move/resize/disable every HUD element like on MMO. So the player choose what he wants and can't complain

@drewgraham

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree as I have played games / used mods on games that made this possible and it is great m but I'm also sure some game devs want the hud to be part of what is recognized as being their game. Should at the very least always provide a way to resize and change opacity of the entire hud imo which many games don't have.

@NicCrimson

2 жыл бұрын

Most shooters on mobile allow this.

@Rafelandroid2

2 жыл бұрын

TF2 allows this by using mods

I prefer no crosshairs. It makes things look cleaner, more immersive, and adds a skill element. How ever if it's a competitive game I'm not going to turn them off if they are offered as a setting.

@Mr.LeoNov

2 жыл бұрын

Mix it with the fact that in insurgency your gun is not always pointed at the center, but rather floats in a small radius at the center and you make it even mode challenging to hip fire

I really enjoy the amount of info that TF2's HUD gives you. Your health, class, current weapon, ammo, reserve ammo, who is alive on both teams, the objective, and any extra bars all in a stylized form and highly customizable. I enjoy that the devs were intentional with what information they showed you during the game: I find myself looking at every bit of the HUD at least once per every few lives. You don't need a mini-map, an arrow above every teammate, or anything like that. Near-perfection.

The map I really like is Heroes and General’s, the player presses a key to show the map and a land navigation map with capture points colored to each team along with every friendly, with separate colors for those on your team, and known enemies. What I like that it does is that when the map key is pressed, the 2d map is slid up into the whole screen as if you’re holding it up to eye level from some jacket pocket, and slides back down after the map key is lifted, implying that when you hold the key, you’re ‘holding’ the map. Even from outside the persons POV and in 3rd person, other people can see your character bring up a map

i always think less hud is better, or atleast have options to add/subtract hud parts

@garbaj

2 жыл бұрын

This. Please give me the option to remove hud items at the very least

@ardi1effendi

2 жыл бұрын

yea man, everyone have a different taste. i'd be awesome if they implement customizable hud

@TechSupportDave

2 жыл бұрын

@@garbaj I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who really LOVES minimalism in video games. It just adds to the immersion, and if someone doesn't like having a minimalistic HUD, just the fact they're not forced to have everything on-screen is good by itself. I was never bothered by it in the past but nowadays I really like it when all I got is a crosshair and a minimap, it just feels so much more "sleek" in a way.

@prateekpanwar646

2 жыл бұрын

Now let's see Paul allen's hud

I'm going to be honest I love that insurgency sandstorm has basically no hud, id say it makes the game a lot better honestly and having more hud elements (even a crosshair) would kinda just ruin it for me

I wish more developers would take the Hell Let Loose approach, where you can toggle the HUD on/off (where the “off” state only keeps the strictly essential elements) with the press of a button

The Hell Let Loose stile is grate, it lets you decide when you want to see the information. Things like the map just shows with a dedicated key

Thing is: Apex has a BIG team factor and given how quick of a game it generally is, having fast access to data you might need or want to communicate to your team at a moment's notice to strategize on the go without having to stop, check inventory or whatnot I think is worth the space. You can't really judge a HUD without accounting for the game: type, genre and pace are important factors just to name a few I'm actually fairly surprised that a game like ARMA has a lot of HUD elements when its aim is to be a realistic simulator

@matte5404

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this video while most of it makes sense it kinda airs on the side of a bad take when he mentions BF2042 having a okay HUD when it literally has more shit on it at all times than Apex.

I really love escape from tarkov’s in game ui It also tells you everything you need to know and also it’s no a static ui , you as a player can interact with it, for example when you click the check magazine keybind you can see in the bottom right the ammo count and when your guy(avatar) finishes inspecting his mags the UI Element disappears.

@isni1946

2 жыл бұрын

Straight to the essential, the looting UI is also very clean.

@paulvanzyl2385

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love EFT's hud since it shows all of the simple information you need to know on the go, while a lot of it is also hidden behind key presses such as the check magazine, breach and time.

I personally love it when games give you the option to customize your HUD (which is very rare among PC games, but sorta common on mobile games). I think having the option to move around and enable/disable certain HUD elements would be a really good feature to have.

Glad you brought up battlefield one. When I clicked this video and began watching I thought to myself “what’s the best hud in video games” and I instantly came up with battlefield one. I love how clean it looks.

I think it’s worth noting that some games like CS have simpler huds because the gameplay is simpler than a game like Apex. There are no inventory, healing, ultimates or interaction mechanics in CS which inherently lets it have a simpler heads up display. (Also CSGO is the best shooter of all time and I will throw hands with anyone who disagrees)

@ege8240

2 жыл бұрын

👏

@Hlebojed

2 жыл бұрын

Escape from Tarkov is way above all other shooters

@Secunder

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree about CS being the best shooter. It has worst gunplay, and I can't imagine a shooter where shooting is boring. Just my opinion, not an insult and actually interested why you called it best

@n8mo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hlebojed Tarkov is fun, for sure. But it has never held my interest like CS does. I’ll play for a month or so every wipe, but I get bored pretty quick once I’ve got good gear. I’ve been playing CS for a decade at this point and it never gets old lol

@GhostSAS7225

2 жыл бұрын

@@Secunder csgo has really good gunplay, a bad gunplay is something like fortnite, that sucks, and yes csgo isn't the best shooter of all time but it's really good

could you talk about aiming dead zones like in the Insurgencies, rising storm 2: Vietnam and all the other games containing it? And to the hud question, definitely less, it's way more immersive and clean looking as you've said.

@danifurka6790

2 жыл бұрын

What is aiming dead zone?

@theandrzej2890

2 жыл бұрын

@@danifurka6790 you move your gun instead of the whole camera.Its kind of hard to explain but type it into KZread and you'll see some examples

@danifurka6790

2 жыл бұрын

@@nilsone5209 aah, i see, thanks for the explanation

@peppermillers8361

2 жыл бұрын

For me it depends if it's part of the environment and what kind of game it is. Then again, I am one of those that liked System Shock 1's full HUD.

@DOT107

2 жыл бұрын

those game uses Box Aiming neat stuff, I had it on in RS2V so I can get accurate side shots when aiming iirc Medal of Honor Airborn also did this as its main gameplay

CS, halo, and gears are my favorite HUD's. I love the simplicity and neutral blue color in halo's in particular. the newer battlefield games are also super customizable.

@steve7745

2 жыл бұрын

Halo 3 was just, genuinely the peak of sandbox shooters like ever. I'm really enjoying Infinite even with the lack of content, but Halo 3 is just such an actually perfect game imo.

I love when there's no cross hair, couse it makes my laser don't feel like just a charm that gives me better stats

I like having an option to toggle the hud. Also you cant talk about huds without mentioning dead space's approach to giving the player the information they need

@devforfun5618

2 жыл бұрын

which inspired games like apex were the weapons have ammo counters on them

@nepnep1802

2 жыл бұрын

@@devforfun5618 halo did this for a couple guns through the series too (b4 deadspace)

@dog-xq5jw

2 жыл бұрын

Yup its a world HUD as opposed to a screen one. For a singeplayer story-driven game it works quite well.

@Matias-dr3ys

2 жыл бұрын

@@dog-xq5jw metro series kind of also has a world HUD if you play on the higher difficulties since you need to look at your wristwatch to see how much time you have on your gasmask filter and to see how much ammo you have left you can just lookk at the gun usually since the magazines often have cutouts in them so you can see the ammo.

I typically enjoy less HUD. I think my favorite type of HUD is one that only shows up when necessary. For instance a health bar that only appears when you take damage or an ammo counter when you shoot or reload.

In Insurgency, you can press a button to pull up a compass as HUD, and you can also open a full map to see where teammates are so as to not kill them.

the thing about insurgency is that when you hipfire , the gun isnt fixed on the center of the screen, if you look to the left your shots will land slightly to the left of the center and if you look to the right your shots will land slightly to the right of the center, you can see it more clearly with the lazier attachment. only when you aim down sights is when the shots will land in the center of the screen (unless you are snipping at long ranges and then you have to adjust for bulletdrop)

I really never feel like I'm missing any important information in Valorant, it's good at letting you know important things and subduing things that are less priority

I think every HUD can be made better by use of transparency. Its not something Ive seen more than a couple times, but having everything very transparent until you interact with it, (for example your health bar becomes fully opaque when you take damage) would be a very clean way of keeping the HUD unintrusive. If you pay attention everything is there, but its not distracting like apex.

@PixyEm

2 жыл бұрын

If you turn the transparency down enough, it's not there when you're not paying attention to it, but there when you want it to be. That's why I like my hud around 10-20% opacity, it's immersive and informative without getting in the way

Not a FPS, but Dead Space has by far the best UI in any video game. Everything is represented in world, the health bar being a light bar on the back of your suit, and your inventory being a hologram that your character deploys, can even move the camera around it to see it at different angles. It's always possible to work "gamey" stuff into your lore.

I don't know if anyone remembers but that Peter Jackson's King Kong game that launched with the 360 in 2005 had really unique "HUD". It was actually zero HUD whatsoever (without cheats), but you pressed B to hear your character say things like "it's okay, I've got enough magazines" or "only got a few bullets left!" It's neat because it's extremely immersive and realistic and also challenging. Nobody who goes around constantly shooting things will ever have an exact numerical count of ammunition in the corner of their vision. Unless you're carrying a small amount of ammunition for a high powered weapon, you do a brief weight check or make a general mental note of your ammunition expenditure. It also makes the game feel less like a shooter and more like a first person action game, like intended. It forces you to either treat your gun usage conservatively so going dry doesn't sneak up on you, or to use guns as last ditch panic mode options.

It depends, if I’m playing a competitive game, I want to have all the information I can. But in other more relaxed, or exploration type games, like BotW I like to immerse myself more and having less hud is better for me. Like the pro mode in BotW

I feel like the best way is to make the hud elements more customizable like in mobile games like cod:mobile. That way people can resize and move their hud elements however they prefer. This is an essential part of mobile gaming because all the buttons are always there on screen unlike in other setups. But i think it would be nice if it were in games on other platforms too.

I really enjoy the hell let loose method where the HUD disappears after a minute and can be toggled on and off at will

The hud in Ready or Not is really well balanced. It provides the information you need when/if you request it and can be toggled on/off entirely mid session.

I feel like Valorant actually also has a pretty good hud that is nicely balanced.

As others have pointed out, I actually like the hud of Apex, and I like that it displays all of the information you need in something I'd still call a space efficient way. But Apex gets away with it in my opinion due to gunfights lasting a long while. Compared to, let's say, R6 or Csgo. In csgo I emptied the hud as much as possible to get every single Pixel on screen because seeing the corner of a head pop up somewhere is the line between life and death. In Apex you have plenty of time to figure out where the enemy is, return counter fire, etc.

"Why's your minimap half the screen, bro? It's not mini anymore, it's just MAP." - Heavenly

I personally like the way HUDs are implemented in VR games. Onward, for example, has a tablet with your map, a wristwatch with an objective or the time, and I like having that information accessible, but not always there so it's not distracting me in a firefight

For me the perfect HUD has always been TF2. It's definitely got some funky style to it, as is unavoidable with TF2 honestly, but I always felt it hit the perfect balance of function and thematic appeal. Not to mention the hundreds of user made huds, but maybe we shouldnt count those.

Quick (*sure*) note for people saying you can just add ability to toggle HUD elements in settings. I'm not saying you're wrong, this is actually good idea, but it's definitely not the easiest solution. Although it is most straight forward, but also one that requires a lot of consideration. Once you add this ability, you now have to account for all players that toggle specific element. If you give this ability, then you should make it also work in the game, making sure there is other ways to get information from the HUD element diegetively (unless this setting is for difficulty, like less HUD = hardcore difficulty). However this is more about issue of developers relying too much on UI, navigators, map, fast travel for giving players information rather than giving it through the gameplay itself (like when you drive in GTA you never look at the road, you always look at the minimap, and this is bad (though this is partially fault of Sega))

Game developer: puts hours into designing a good HUD and play testing it. Garbage:

The best minimalist HUD I've ever seen is Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Game. By default, there's no HUD whatsoever and I think a tiny dot in lieu of crosshairs, if anything, and you have a dedicated keybind to checking the ammo in the gun and your stores. Even with the optional HUD turned on, it's very, very minimalist, and I only turned it on to get an actual read of max ammo (which was a failure of the Check Ammo keybind; it only told you "I've got plenty" when you were above half, whereas the HUD showed absolute max, current, and ammo-in-gun, which saved me from a few times running completely dry where if I hadn't switched and my gun was just barely above half I would have, because ammo was scarce)

The HUD is a tool, and so the priority is functionality over design. Typically, FPS games have their HUD specifically built around what information they think their players need/want/deserve, and design comes second.

@waziendiny

2 жыл бұрын

Then you have games like No More Room In Hell. Where the hud shows up if you interact with it. A a balance between arcade and realism. Both function and design working together perfectly

I completely dissagree- Apex's hud tells you everything thats neccesary for what its trying to do in a stylish manner that directs your eyes to the centers of the screen with its angles. In short the size of the map and Alt charge is so you can quickly parse the info. Your ammo count doubles as your weapon select indicator well and helps looting priority especially for noobs with how the colour coordination corisponds to the gun's class and by proxy ammo. A lot of info is put into you and your squad's health bars- including the character, health and armour charge and what levels of armour are equipped. The kill feed/chat/squad feed again is useful to parse info that you missed, to keep track of kills and provides more info than voice callouts can- this also feeds into accessibility The squares below your crosshair are backpack indicators to tell you how much space have left and only appear when that changes While some things I completely agree should at minimum be changable like the contextual interact button- and everything should be able to be moved and scalled by the player, a lot of the choices made with this directly facilitate and encourage actual squad play instead of lone wolfing. It fits thematically, provides all neccesary info and while yes- transparancy and scalling/moving the hud and having a hide hud button should be choices to say its cluttered and one of the worst huds youve ever seen implies either a lack of knowledge or would betray your biases towards minimalistic huds if your priase of Insurgency Sandstorms basically nothing hud didnt do that itself Now obviously this is also game dependent- as apex is designed for something like this and Insurgency is designed for its hud- and liking different styles of hud is perfectly fine but its like looking at say WoW and saying its HUD is trash compared to say Neverwinter's when they're two different kettles of fish

I like the radar style minimaps, paired with being able to quickly hit select/etc to pull up a full map and see where discovered enemies are on said map

I love HUDs where its built in-game; examples : Metro, Dead Space u open ur map with a board from ur bag, or check time remaining of ur gas mask from ur watch, or see ur health on the back of Isaac. its fully immersive and I'm sure even comp multiplayer games can adapt such HUDs in some creative ways; not to mention VR FPS can't quite do cluttered HUDs like Apex

Adding a crosshair to Insurgency sandstorm would be stupid and spitting in the face of the original playerbase even more than they already have, its supposed to be a grounded tactical shooter hence why many "traditional" elements are omitted. Trying to run around hip firing all over *should* get you killed and punish you for not working with your team and playing the objectives. If you want a point of reference for the muzzle then buy a laser, the very fact there isn't a bloated HUD is part of the core design and a balancing feature. I understand the point but after so many of these kinds of concessions are made its a completely different game. If insurgency had a crosshair, no free aim, obtrusive ammo counter, mini-map, killfeed, scoreboard etc then its nowhere near the original design anymore and it might as well have been a different game from the start.

@monkeywithtrombone

2 жыл бұрын

you can easily hip fire in insurgency sandstorm without a laser

@DaSpineLessFish

2 жыл бұрын

@@monkeywithtrombone Exactly, a crosshair is even more pointless

Hud element opacity is another way to reclaim more screen space. In games that allow it I'll set it so that the hud elements are visible but I can easily see past them.

the game Deep Rock galactic has a good approach to it: you can customize the amount of info on your hub. It takes the form of option you can toogle on and off: ennemies life, minerals carried, ammo count, compass... You can even turn off the HUD entierly just by holding a button for a second. I wish it was a bit more granular (for a silly example: having your shield bar without your health bar), but as far as I'm concerned, having the player decide what ammount of info they want is the best way! Also, I like when the HUD is diegetic: to keep with Deep Rock Galactic, your ammo count is displayed on your gun (Halo Battlerifle style), so I can toogle off the ammo display on the HUD and still know at all time what ammunition I have left.

DayZ takes the cake for HUD. You get the full hud, or you can TAP the ~ key to removed your "hotkey" items (Items in your inventory that you've assigned to 0-9 on the number row for quick access without having to open the TAB menu). You can also press and hold the ~ key to remove YOUR ENTIRE HUD if that's how you prefer to play. So, you have 3 levels of HUD available to you without even having to open the settings menu.

i love not having a cross hair in insurgency because the hipfire in that game is dependent on where your gun barrel is aiming not on the middle of the screen

Best game huds are the ones that let you toggle circle or square and north-south orientation vs. rotating with the direction you're looking in.

In case someone hasn't said it already but the HUD in the red orchestra series is great, it is minimal like sandstorm but you can hit a button and more information will fade into your hud and likewise you can hit it again to take away that information on the fly.

My fav game of all time is bf1, and a little detail about its hud is that in there are game elements that even mess with it. There’s the shell shock effect where sound gets droned out, and when you put on your gas mask, it not only doesnt let u ads, but also limits your fov. This makes things like gas and shotgun rush really good while being what i feel like is a fair trade off

Minecraft- "Am I a joke to you?!"

Battlefield 1 is especially good because you can change the size of the mini map. If you wanna get a closer look at where the enemy is, you can just press a button to enlarge the map. As someone with bad eyes, I love it when ganes do this

I always recall Red Orchestra 2 and having the ability to hold down a key to reveal the 'Tactical' (I think?) HUD which gave you a lot more information on how things were going. As for minimaps, I think one way to resolve the issue is just a simple opacity slider.

In Valorant for example I play a lot of Support Agents so having much information with a larger minimap is really great, the Valorant HUD is also not as noisy as others

I actually like Escape from Tarkov’s hud the most. Only showing vital info when necessary. So all the most important details are available, but it never gets in your way. For example, your health display only shows up when you get hurt.

it mostly depends on the game but usually all i need is to see how much stamina i have left and how much ammo i have, pretty much everything else is unneccessary. i dont even need a crosshair since i know roughly where my screens center is.

i like if you can change level of transparency of the every part of HUD

i feel like for apex legends i wish you can hide your teammates Healthbar, and show back up when you're opening inventory menu. and for the weapon loadout, i do wish it had more a minimalistic design approach

i like how arma 3 does the hud, where you can set it to either be always on, or, which is my preference, have it show only when there is a change to the hud, like selecting something, etc.

"At least give me a crosshair" i dont think he got the point of insurgency sandstorm

i like how games such as Hell Let Loose have a button that toggles from vital hud and important-to-the-match hud

I like having things pop up like "F" to interact sort of hud since I am a dumbass that forgets inputs sometimes

Insurgency -> AT LEAST GIMME A CROSSHAIR no. that's not it Garbaj.

There's only a couple of games I play with crosshair on now. You instantly feel more immersed with just the thing in middle being taken away, and it lets your eyes wander and take in more details that way. If the crosshair is one, it's bc I'm playing a competitive shooter or a sci-fi shooter

red orchestra and rising storm fps games the default hud is like sandstorm but if you press the "tactical info" key it will show you some basics stuff that you will need that is hidden in the hud for some short period of time

Call of Cthulhu - Dark Corners of the Earth has the best HUD ever designed..... And.... It's not for everyone.

One thing I want to talk about HUD is how it works in ultra-wide screen, like each elements of HUD align and scale in the screen, are they customizable?, etc.

I personally play a mobile game 'FreeFire' and well let's just say it's an absolute horror of buttons. I used the custom hud feature ( it's a mobile game feature ) and made every button 10% visible after getting used to my hud, now it's an immersive experience with butt-ton of buttons but it doesn't bother me much now.

I think the way CoD mobile has the customizable hud/control pad where you can add, remove, scale or drag each element of the hud so everyone can have their ideal display

I think that a editable hud is really useful. It's nice if you dont need a huge ass compass on your hud, but want an ammo counter

I like adaptive and immersive huds - where I either get shown the relevant information at the right time (RDR2) or I can click a button to see the information immersively (Sandstorm)

In a tactical game like Insurgency Sandstorm or Ready or Not I'd rather have a clear screen so I can focus on the surrounding and be more immersed into the game.

I usually go for as minimal as possible for huds regardless of game, I'm talking like only the stuff that is super necessary: ammo, health, a small minimap, and a dot crosshair.

rising storm vietnam where you can quickly disable the hud via keyboard key so you can toggle it after a objective to get some quick info and direction and then re disable it to have a nice open view

I can't believe that no one is mentioning the real time text MMORPG World of Warcraft

Insurgency Sandstorm's HUD is mostly contextual, the only thing that appears all the time is your objective indicator, timer, and reinforcement waves. Your ammo indicator only appears if you are reloading or checking your mags, your health 'indicator' is just how red your screen tint is, the game does show you the bare minimum information for an FPS, but not all the time.

As a person who thinks in hand movements when I play smash (right index = jump, left index = shield, right thumb = smacks and grabs on my layout) I actually much prefer the apex layout to many other games. Yes, it's noisy, big, covers way too much of the screen but is controlled into certain ideas that tell you the information you need when you need it. The bottom left corner shows health and shield of your whole team as well as which level shield each member has by the color. The bottom right corner shows my guns, their ammo counts and ammo type I need to be looting with a quick look of the color. The top of the screen represents the game state, player count, my personal kill count, all player kills by which weapon, my position relative to the ring and surrounding geometry). I really enjoy being able to know what I want when I want so I'm not overloaded on my ammo count while I'm looking at my health to see how much I have to heal when I'm running from a huge fight next to the ring. I do agree that there are some really dumb things in the hud that make no sense, the ability, nade, utility (mobile / heat sheild), and ultimate being along the bottom super far away from each other is dumb and hard to read (so bad in fact I've created the bad habit of clicking on the item in my inventory to heal instead of taking advantage of the context based single tap heal button.) The text in the middle of the screen looks out of place and unfinished when you have a control prompt, and huge dumb ring closing notification is useless when I can hear it loud and clear (maybe move it to the top right corner where most other things related to game state are, or the top left so I can correlate the location of the ring to the fact that it is closing.) But overall, I think that the apex layout works really well and the other games that have the same trend (like TF2, which I really enjoy the game state at the top showing your team comp and which players are dead as well as showing the class of the dead players on the enemy team) work just as well. If I need something, I get it fast. Yes it takes some time to know what info you need when, but that comes with experience and I find that you learn the hud as you learn the game, which is super cool. Yes, as first these huds are daunting, cluttered, and overstimulating, but as you learn what you need to focus on when, the isolation it gives your brain to make the choices you need is what wins games.

The Apex Legends HUD does get in the way more often than it should. Some notable examples from my experience are: (1) Not seeing someone standing in front of me because the directional damage indicator was blocking them (2) Not seeing someone because the item pickup tooltip was blocking them from my view (3) Picking up an item at the same time as reviving someone because "E to swap weapon" and "E to revive" take up the same screen space and can occur at the same time (4) Not seeing someone because opaque banners like "You are the new kill leader" and "Scanned by XX legend" block the top third of the screen

Dishonored's HUD is the perfect example of simple yet informative.

The best game HUDs are ones you are able to just briefly glance at to get important information, such as your health or ammo bar changing to red when you are low, you don't need to process and read the actual number in the heat of battle, just red saying "not very much of that" and you know instantly. Small visual elements communicate that very effectively. While, yes, the clean minimalism of a solid color HUD with even spacings and fonts LOOKS nice, it actually isn't very good to PLAY on. Like seen in the video, CS:GO has a stellar HUD, everything is out of your way and you hardly need to mentally process the actual info, there's no extra visual stylistic textures and much of it is transparent backgrounds and tucked in the corners. The little things like what weapon you have equipped being a brighter white and pocketed items being a faded transparent grey to remind you that you have them, but aren't in your way. The kill feed is color coded obviously and even has an outline so you know which kills are yours instead of reading it. The map is solid and contrasting colors with 0 visual clutter. Fast, clean, unintrusive, and informative. One of the best HUDs in gaming and I don't even really play CS:GO.

For me it depends if the extra hud info is actually important extra information to help me do better or manage something. If it's just there for design purpose and I'm losing free screen space that's when it's a problem.

i like the ability to turn parts of the hud off can't go wrong when the consumer makes the choices