People forget there was once a time when the fullback was used as a primary offensive weapon and not as an extra offensive lineman.

@bigchee8263

3 жыл бұрын

I was 13 and knew this was a garbage pick

@fraz72

3 жыл бұрын

Yep backs like Jim brown Larry csonka, Franco Harris, were officially fullbacks but we're featured backs given those times. Lynn Cain of the falcons was a good ball carrying fullback but William Andrews was such a great tailback they had to feature him

@brianthomas2434

3 жыл бұрын

Holy Cow! Fortunately, you have an avatar, so we can't be mistaken for each other.

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

And even by 1987 that time had clearly passed.

@scawfan75

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 Laughs in Mike Alstott

"OH no" seems to be the go to chant for Jets fans on draft day.

@John-tr6of

3 жыл бұрын

@NO PATS JIM Three AFC Championship Games (1998, two under Rex).

@area.man.

3 жыл бұрын

Jets fans would boo if the Jets drafted God. Always the most annoying part of the draft when it was in New York.

@kevinpiacente3456

3 жыл бұрын

Wait til they screw up this draft

@kevinpiacente3456

3 жыл бұрын

@@area.man. most NY fans don't watch college so they don't know 99% of the players

@area.man.

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpiacente3456 You are exactly right.

Hey thanks for reminding me the Lions took a fullback in the first round in 1983 instead of Dan Marino.

@pronkb000

3 жыл бұрын

Literally every team in the league except the Dolphins and Washington missed out on Marino.

@CTubeMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@pronkb000 Tampa Bay didn’t, ahem, pass on Marino. But that’s only because they traded that first round pick the year before to Chicago for the Bears’ second round pick that year. The Buccaneers took Booker Reese with that second round pick only after sending up the wrong name in the first round.

@jasonnelson6624

3 жыл бұрын

The Lions couldn't evaluate qb's so they would have missed Marino. Sorry. But they did steal Marino replacement Scott Mitchell lol.

@pep2st8p64

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@flockawaka1017

3 жыл бұрын

Jim Kelly went with the next pick too

“The New York Jets selection… Fullback…” “OH NO!”

I was the fan that yelled "Oh No!!" The draft was held on a Tuesday back then- all 12 rounds. The video misses a lot of things: 1- Paige was upset at the Jets in 1985. Paige had a bonus clause in his contract if he scored more than 10 TD's. Once Paige scored his 10th TD in '85 the Jets never gave him a chance to score an 11th. 2- Vick was selected as much to justify the disastrous selection of Mike Haight in 1986 as much as anything else. The Jets desperately needed a left tackle after reaching for Haight. The players the Jets should have taken in '87 were either Harris Barton (SF) or Bruce Armstrong (NE), players selected immediately after the Jets took Vick and players who were both All Pro on multiple occasion.

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

I think I've actually heard of you! The name Tony Pauline seems familiar to me for some reason.

@luisreyes1963

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. 🤨

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, you make my day every time I hear that clip

@dkworkman82

Жыл бұрын

😂 I love it I still question our drafts today

@SeanP7195

Ай бұрын

I’m shocked a Jets fan crying out in agony is named “Tony”. What are the chances?

That oh no is fucking incredible. I don't care if Vick went on to have a hall of fame career, that immediate, off the cuff, innocent "OH NO!" makes me chuckle so hard and will continue to do so every time I hear it

Spoiler alert 11:15 "guess what happens next" Me: He fumbles. He breaks a tackle. Oh, this has promise. Does he score a... and there it is, he fumbled.

its crazy to imagine there was once a playoff game between The NY Jets and Cleveland Browns

@pullt

3 жыл бұрын

A great one, too. I'm 44 and that's the first real classic postseason game I recall watching.

@RalphReagan

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

As well as the first Monday night game in the MNF era. Would have also been natural to open the 50th season in 2019 (also Odell's return to NY) but alas it wasn't til week two

@bugsyproductions3140

2 жыл бұрын

Young eh

@SkunkApe407

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Not if you were born before the 1990's anyway.

I feel bad for the guy. He was talented, seemed to work hard and have a good attitude. He just didn't have much luck evidently. Fumbling is a problem few backs ever seem to solve if it hits them.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

I use to follow the draft somewhat back then, and I was a fan of College Football. I never heard his name back then, as a Top college player to look for. Maybe Texas A&M was on probation in those days. However, the irony, back then I had heard of Christian Okoyo. There was this buzz about a 270 pound Fullback, with speed, from a Division II State School in Southern California. A guy who was running up 200 yards a game, that no one could tackle. I saw Okoyo score 3 touchdowns in the Senior Bowl, yet I still had not heard the name Roger Vick.

@bigchee8263

Жыл бұрын

He wasnt talented imo.

"The most infamous draft pick in Jets history"? What about 1995 where the fans openly yelled for the team to take Warren Sapp and they took Kyle Brady? 🤔😅

@teen_laqueefa

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree

@thepubknight6144

2 жыл бұрын

@@teen_laqueefa pete rozelle's smirk at kyle being picked thou ...he was the goat at them smirks lmao rip pete

BTW, the 49ers drafted a fullback in 1994 in the first round, William Floyd, who is still remembered fondly by many fans since he was a good player. So yeah, taking a fullback in the first round back then wasn't outlandish like it would be seen as now.

@jirikurto3859

3 жыл бұрын

The 49ers were absolutely loaded at the time and that was kind of a luxury pick at the end of the 1st round. Floyd had a few great years and then disappeared.

@TheAlfrulz

3 жыл бұрын

Floyd was great early on. If it wasn't for that injury in 1995, he was on pace to be even better than his predecessor Tom Rathman. Floyd holds the distinction of being the last ever FB drafted in the first round.

@SamnissArandeen

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe for an 8-8 or better team with a good core in place, that needs a specific skill position to push them that bit further to greatness. The Jets needed a QB and receiving talent. Badly.

@dumisatonyjohnson8145

3 күн бұрын

@@SamnissArandeen They already had a QB And they had Toon & Walker at WR In 1987

The way Roger Vick played ball in college would honestly translate well today in the NFL. He could make a very solid traditional tailback today.

I wonder who “oh no” guy wanted the Jets to draft?

@holdenmcgroin9774

3 жыл бұрын

To this day that guy still lives in his mom’s basement and not a single date with a girl since 1987.

@robertpalin2161

3 жыл бұрын

@@holdenmcgroin9774 sounds like my cousin

@jamaaljoseph4275

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone but a fullback

@SurgingSpecs

3 жыл бұрын

At least Jets fans knew who they wanted in ‘95. Hint: it wasn’t kyle brady

@ramuelcruzada3207

2 жыл бұрын

@@SurgingSpecs WE WANT SAPP Jets: No, we ain't drafting that guy...

That was Joe Benigno who yelled "oh no"

@joetriolo9161

3 жыл бұрын

we miss Joe

ITs a shame it did not work out. He worked hard, and tried

I love how he spent the off-season working on his speed when it's like, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, BRO! You're a fullback who can't block or catch and you fumble too much! I guess he was counting on being so fast that nobody would be able to punch the ball out or something, despite at least one of those fumbles being an unforced error? Weird decision; I feel bad for this guy, as I do for every highly touted player who doesn't make it in the league.

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

When you think about it, it's literally impossible for every player drafted in the first round every year to be good in the NFL, let alone great.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 I thought Vick was an ok player, but no way in hell a first round talent. The Jets for the most part, did suck at the draft. They would draft for need, instead of taking the best players on the board.

@TomG1555

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 There's studies that show that only about half of the 1st round players turn out to be good (i.e. eventual multi-year starters), much less Pro Bowl-level. The draft really is more of an art than a science.

Roger Vick wasn't the ONLY player MISUSED by the New York Jets and their front office.

The Fullback position isn't what it once was, and honestly I would to see you do one on the last true Fullback in Mike Allstot of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

It's sad for his career, this is the best video ever.

Rozelle seemed to delight in trolling New York fans during the draft, as witnessed by him smiling as NY fans booed the selections of Phil Simms and Ken O’Brien. In fact, in 1983 Rozelle paused after saying “Quarterback” to give Jets fans a glimmer of hope they had drafted Dan Marino, before dropping the Ken O’Brien bomb on them. You did a video about the 1974 Draft the other day, and someone mentioned George Allen in a response. Allen, as Washington’s coach that year, traded the same first-round pick to both the Rams and Jets. Rozelle and the league had to make a determination of who got that pick. Once you understand how on occasions like this when Rozelle trolled NY fans, and the fact that he worked for the Rams before becoming NFL commissioner, it’s not a surprise that the pick was awarded to the Rams. OK, this may be overly conspiratorial, and Rozelle didn’t stay commissioner for 29 years while tipping the scales like my inner Oliver Stone suggested. But I still find it worth interest.

@mwt3579

3 жыл бұрын

Not only did Pete work for the Rams before becoming commissioner, but he was drinking buddies with Carrol Rosenbloom, owner of the Rams who later became owner of the Colts. When the Dolphins signed Don Shula as coach, the Colts accused the Fins of tampering even though the Dolphins had worked out the deal with Rosenbloom's son. Rozelle helped out his buddy by taking the Fins first round pick away and giving it to Rosenbloom's Colts.

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

@@mwt3579 Now THAT was a conspiracy!!!

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

If it had been me I would've given that pick to whoever Allen first traded it to. Seems like the only fair way to me. Once the first trade is made, the second trade of the same pick becomes null and void. So if the Rams had been the first team traded with I see nothing wrong with them getting the pick. And it seems likely that was the case, as Allen once had his team stocked with so many of his ex-Rams players that they were called the Ramskins.

I'm a life long dolphins fan and I miss the great old days when they would play the jets on Monday night football

you got a lot of fun nfl videos, glad i found your channel :)

I remember this one very well..."Oh No"; Most certainly words of premonition of things to come

Bro Montana, I love these videos. You're killing it.

Cornelius Bennett for some reason is not in the HoF.

One of my favorite moments in draft history.

Excellent! I loved this man. I'm gonna sub and beebop around your channel a bit. This is real work you put in and exactly what I was looking for this morning. thanks

Paige wound up being so good for the Dolphins that I can forgive him for being a Jet.

Now the fun part - the Jets are gonna draft yet "Another" QB in draft !! " Oh No !"😁🏈

Rozelle loved trolling Jets fans. The 1983 draft when he announces their pick the way he says “quarterback” making the fans believe Marino was coming right before dropping the bomb on them they were getting Ken O’Brian was pretty hilarious too.

@NJGuy1973

3 жыл бұрын

You don't suppose this was his way of sticking it to Joe Namath's team?

@freeparking301

3 жыл бұрын

@@NJGuy1973 Never thought of it that way. The thought had to at least cross Rozelle’s mine.

@joetriolo9161

3 жыл бұрын

He should have thanked the Jets before they won the SB there was some uneasiness about the merger...so if you think about it Joe and Weeb saved his bacon.

The Giants did something similar just a few years later in 1991. The Giants drafted FB Jarrod Bunch late in the first round. The Giants were seemingly stacked in the backfield coming off a Super Bowl season. They had the aging but still productive Ottis Anderson. They had David Meggett, the closest thing the plodding Giants O had to a gamebreaker. And Rodney Hampton, their first round pick in 1990, and future franchise back. Bunch wound up being a bust, being done in by injuries and lasted only three years in NY. Statistically career wise, Roger Vick outperformed and lasted longer than Jarrod Bunch.

Great videos

I could see a FB getting drafted in the first round today if they catch and block better than the TEs.

The smile Pete Rozelle gives after announcing Kyle Brady to a round of boos at the draft is hilarious too.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

That was Tagliabue

@P2thaR

3 жыл бұрын

@@mgb4692 Haha. I've done that before. I have a screenshot of the moment, so I know who it was, but I mixed their names again... 😖

Here’s something interesting. In 2010, the final wildcard spot was decided based on strength of victory against Green Bay, Tampa bay, and the New York giants (all 10-6.) however, Green Bay won the tiebreaker with an astounding .475 strength of victory greatly overshadowing the other teams to eliminate them.

Roger Vick would resurface in the short-lived World League of American Football for the Orlando Thunder, and he was second on the team in rushing yards with 458 on 116 carries, averaging 3.9 yards per carry, and scored 4 touchdowns. The Thunder went 8-2 and captured the WLAF North American East Division Championship. They then blew out the Birmingham Fire in the semifinals before dropping a close one to the Sacramento Surge in the World Bowl.

From the era where the NFL nailed the draft…those drafts in NY with Rozelle announcing the names of the players were great. And when the Jets came up, it was glorious with the Jets fans letting the world know just how much they hated their pick (and for the most part, they were right) and Rozelle smirking his way through. It was pure theater rather than today’s over the top, artificial, ‘let’s create a moment’ that isn’t there, traveling carnival show of boredom.

Now Jets fan yelled out "Oh No" whenever a TE get announced

Great story. Sucks for Roger Vick, and a lot of other guys in his position that seem to really give it their all, but at the end of the day you just aren't good enough to stick around in the NFL. But I guess that's life, and to Roger's credit he realized that with a positive attitude towards the end. Hopefully he didn't get too down on how his career played out. He got to play in the NFL, and making it that far is pretty remarkable in itself. It would have been worse if he was just a lazy yahoo that didn't try to excel.

Do a feature on that fan who shouted oh no

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

Especially since he actually commented here.

Allonzo Highsmith was a FB at Miami and was drafted third overall in 87. By the Houston Oilers. He blocked for running backs like Mike Rozier and the Oilers, first round pick in 88 Lorenzo white.

Aside from the one play in this video, Vick was the one Jets RB from the late '70s to the early '00s who didn't slash, gash and bash my team. In 6 games he had just one other TD and ran for a total of 134 yards with 8 catches.

Tony Richardson was a first round pick and I’d say he has a borderline HOF career

@hezamachine

3 жыл бұрын

Tony Richardson was undrafted. As a rookie he was on the practice squad with the 1994 Dallas Cowboys.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

Much as Mack Strong, who spent his rookie year of 1993 (undrafted) on the Seahawks practice squad and then moved up when they traded John L. Williams

The next Fullback taken was Okoye.

@82dorrin

3 жыл бұрын

As a Broncos' fan, my favorite memory of Okoye is when Steve Atwater obliterated him.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

@@82dorrin Okoye, was a great fullback, but I remember he started to get cocky as this unstoppable runner. Players like Atwater don't take lightly to shit like that. Steve, was great in his own right. He was clean, but he was mean. The first thing he'd clean ... was your clock.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

That might have been the game that ended him, seriously I went back and watched Hawks/Chiefs (the Derrick Thomas......oh yeah and Krieg to Skansi too game) and Okoye had like 3.2 per carry going in, TF?

Gawd I remember Christian Okoye. I had a poster of him on my wall as a kid. What a runner. Part of Marty ball

@alfonsogreen2722

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame that someone from a small school(Okoye) could have a better year than someone that came out of a big time football school(Vick). It's crazy

As a Giants fan, I had the same feeling in 2018 when we drafted a RB at #2...and, again, in 2019 when we drafted a 3rd-round talent #6 overall. The Jets are not the only team in New York whose fans have had to endure some bone-headed decisions on draft day.

@iamhungey12345

2 жыл бұрын

Barkley's a real deal though whether or not he bounce back from the injury is another matter.

Look how he's carrying the ball what's up with his RB coach?

I don’t understand why the fan yelled “oh no” since the video makes it sound like it was a reasonable pick that just didn’t pan out. Another great video

I think the only interesting thing that would have made this story interesting wasn't in this story and that was Roger Vick was Micheal Vick's dad.

I personally love using a traditional full back in my offense

What's even worse is that Vick didn't even have the most rushing yards of a Texas A&M back from the '87 draft. That would be his teammate Rod Bernstine, who was somehow taken just 3 picks after by the Chargers despite only 443 yards rushing in college. Yes, you read that right. And yet in the NFL he ran for over 1700 more yards than Vick, with 83 more catches to boot.

in non-strike games the Jets dressed HB McNeil FBs Hector (part time) Vick Marion Barber JR (father of the future NFLer) Nuu Faaola Roster management was interesting in the 80s, in 81 the Jets had six RBs with at least 70 carries. Most played all 16 games.

Although runningbacks are not the key targets in modern drafts, teams still draft 230lbs runningbacks in first and second round. Najee Harris, Leonard Fournette, A.J. Dillon ... and Derrick Henry. And Vick ran like most of them. Had speed and power and decent agility. Nowadays teams draft total of 4-5 runningbacks in 1st and 2 round together. When Vick was drafted, 7 in first round and another three in 2nd round. And two of then were fullbacks. Vick and Christian Okoye.

Andre Tippett "The Next LT"🤭 appearance

Damn you showed the Bills about 10 times and I'd guess their jersey and helmets looked different 9 times.

as a long suffering Jets fan this rings true ! I remember the pick and Vicks lack of productivity - Onzy Elam was another classic pick by the green and white - oh the pain. How do they pass on Greg Lloyd for Onzy !?

@troyc4250

3 жыл бұрын

Dave you as a Jets fan deserve better. But at least you’ve been a fan and stayed with them. Hopefully Zach Wilson will work for your team. I think Darnold was wasted in his time with your squad...or maybe he sucks? We’ll see.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

Onzy was a third round pick. He was a speed pass rusher in college, and I guess they were thinking of using him in the 3-4. Did not work out, and Onzy did not stay in the NFL very long. Cannot really compare him to Greg Lloyd in the draft. Lloyd was a find for Pittsburgh. He was a late draft choice, that turned out to be a gem.

Let's not forget the Jets also drafted Jeff Lageman, a defensive end, two years later and Pete Rozelle got a similar reaction after reading off that name!

You should look at the players drafted within 5-7 picks of Vicks- two turned in great OL- Bruce Armstrong and Harris Barton. But, the Jets had already drafted an OL in the first round in 86. So, that likely wasn't going to happen. The first pick in the second round in 87 was Nate Odomes who was a good DB for the Bills.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

If it was the right thing to do, the Jets did the opposite.

in his defense, that o-line didn't block much. Those fumbles are indefensible though.

#1 rule as a carrier is hold on to the ball

Commissioner Rozelle loved trolling Jets fans, he basically laughed at them when Ken o brien was drafted ahead of Dan Marino

Hell knowing the Jets, it wouldn't be surprising if they had drafted a 6 year old Michael Vick

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

I think they actually got more out of Michael in 2014 than they got from three years of Roger

'The jets had one of their best seasons ever....10-6 lost in the division round' That about says it all...

Still not as bad or hilarious as Jet fans' reactions to them taking Kyle Brady 9th overall in '95.

@bryantthoresen6772

3 жыл бұрын

The best part about that is they already had two really good TE's on their roster (Johnny Mitchell and Fred Baxter), and had a real need at DT, but passed up on Warren Sapp to draft Kyle Brady.............hilarious..............

@barryrogers7554

3 жыл бұрын

Don't remind me. I was actually AT that draft when they did that. Unbelievable.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

HEY WE TOOK BRADY😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

10:30 That Hasty interception is a safety

@diaz5292

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know. His momentum carried him into the end zone. Believe it or not the rules allow for something called the player's 'impetus' carrying him into the end zone, he can still take a knee for a touch back. So, idk. Would be interesting to see how they ruled on that.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

In 85 they got a safety cause that happened with Louie Breeden, so Ken O'Brien will always have the rare achievement of "throwing a safety" Obviously the Ricky Watters play in 2000 changed everything, so that will probably stand for the rest of time

@Sangria

3 жыл бұрын

@@mgb4692 Good call. I just watched it. Summerall jinxed O'Brien with the "No interceptions thrown" line before the snap.

Def a disapointment but I gotta add he was a class act & good dude. As a kid I used to visit the Jets training camp at Hofstra College in the summer. I think it was 1988 he stopped to sign a autograph and even spent a few mins chatting with me & mostly my Uncle.

New York selects…….Fullback Oh no 😫 Roger Vick….Texas A&M

A fullback with fumbleitis is not gonna last long, although 4 years is the avg. span of an NFL back's career.

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

He needs to do a video about Sammie Smith.

@nathandebartolo8330

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 Ugh. I just want to forget..

@iamhungey12345

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolFan316 "How to Waste Marino's Career 101".

Seems like he needed a RB coach to help with how he held the ball

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

The first thing he needed was a Head Coach, which the Jets had in name, but hardly in ability. Walton, probably would have put handles on the football, so Vick would not drop it. Of course with handles, O'Brien wouldn't be able to throw it.

You are wrong about Bruce Coslet having no ties "whatsoever" to Joe Walton. He was his Offensive Coordinator when Vick began his career and showed great patience in keeping him involved. The reason Roger Vick stands out is because the Jets had some stellar choices out of college at OT and CB and could have even traded down to get a few more picks. The Vikings would have made such a deal.

Roger Vick ran too tall for being a rather lighter weight Fullback. He ran fast like a Track athlete BUT it made him easy to pull/push off-balance, especially at the start of the play, when he hadn't been able to reach full speed yet. He also didn't cut or juke very well - again, from running too upright.

Life in the NFL.

You will see a team used a fullback again now you see big running backs that are fullback with running back speed and you see threw time Larry Zonka , The Bus , Henry the Titan literally but Tampa Bay Alsott , bears Munster and so but you'll start to see the fullback slowly get put back in the offensive game plan.

I can't recall if I ever heard if the Barber brothers had a relative in the NFL , but apparently the jets at the time had a Marion Barber, so says the newspaper article he used in the video

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

He was their dad.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

And 34 years later the Jets draft two Michael Carters

You can always tell those who truly don't know the game and the positions. There was nothing wrong with picking Vick (Brian Thomas is right) (a high school teammate of mine) since he was a very good fullback who was actually a running back in HS and College. Fullbacks are blocking and valve players they are not typically your lead rusher or a massive output player. The only problem then was coaching not my friend Oogie.

I think the biggest issue with this pick is that the backfield was arguably one of the places they could probably have skimped a bit on. The pass defense was fucking atrocious while the offensive line needed help at BOTH tackles. Put yourself in the shoes of that fan. You just watched the Jets make a decent playoff run, which had a good run D while being beyond terrible in pass D. But they did it, and the offense looked great at times, including QB Ken O'Brien and his backup Pat Ryan played well too. Then Bernie Kosar puts nearly FIVE HUNDRED YARDS on you, and sends you home packing. This team needs help. You can't have good seasons giving up 500 more yards than the next worst pass defense in the NFL. You can't rely on only running between the tackles. Rozelle comes out. You're hoping for someone to give some great help - maybe Harris Barton or Bruce Armstrong (both taken right after) at OT - maybe Nate Odomes at Corner. Fullback. He announces a god damn Fullback. Tony Paige wasn't good enough, and instead of paying him and drafting some help your front office decided to replace him. Oh no.

Fullback or Halfback? The style of play in the 80’s was definitely way different than how it was played in the 90’s & 2000’s where the Fullback position was still a primary part of the offense.

The first thing I think off when the Jets and 1st round. Is when they took a kicker in the 1st

It looks worse today because even the existence of a defined fullback has all but disappeared.

@nathandebartolo8330

3 жыл бұрын

Some innovative OC will figure out how to use the fullback, score 500 points in a season and the position will be all the rage again. Just watch.

@F40PH-2CAT

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathandebartolo8330 Is there any team left that regularly uses the I formation anymore?

@nathandebartolo8330

3 жыл бұрын

@@F40PH-2CAT Not to my knowledge.

Gee, I still miss the SWC.

Vick didn't really play FB though. As you can see from most of his highlights in college, he played tailback, and was just listed as a FB because he was big.

@chrish931

3 жыл бұрын

No he was a fullback, A&M used a flexbone offense then, in the Flexbone your fullback lines up directly behind the QB and you have two halfbacks playing off the edge of the line like a tight end off the line or sometimes in the slot, and you run a lot of triple option out of it. One problem with the flexbone though is the fullback does not really lead block hardly ever, mostly running play fakes on running plays where he doesnt get the ball and often times doing the same thing on passing plays, he main purpose in the offense is serving as the first option in the triple option and taking the bulk of short yardage runs. Vicks problem was not being able to adapt to the pro style offense, he had no idea how to lead block out of I formations or split T pro set formations like most NFL running offenses used at the time.

@mrmajikjr

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrish931 None of this really matters. He didn't play the traditional "lead blocker" position that the NFL associates "fullback" with. He was a tailback in an offense that just refers to the tailback as a "fullback". It's like calling a slot receiver a running back because the offense calls them "Slotbacks"

13:25 Okay so I know he wasn't a show out star player, but that O-line let two dudes through almost before the QB even had a chance to hand it off.

I remember Roger Vick when he was playing for the Jets but he was a bust in the NFL and the Jets organization don't know how to draft

@fredleeland2464

3 жыл бұрын

Worst drafting team in the history of the draft In the last 10 drafts ZERO first rounders have made it on the the Jets after their rookie contract

11:06…pronounced "Smur-less" not smear-loss. Keep up the good work 👍🏾

Here’s a good full circle with this video. Christian Okoye won the rushing title in 1989 over Barry Sanders by 10 yards. Sanders’ coach with the Lions, Wayne Fontes, asked if he wanted to go back into the Lions last game of the season against Atlanta to get the rushing title. The Lions had clinched the victory by this point. Sanders declined, letting another running back finish the game. That other running back? Tony Paige.

I wonder if people jokingly say “oh no”when meeting him.

What's the name of that little dreamy background tune I like it call me crazy.

This story so reminds me of Zach Wilson. A guy, with great potentia,l willing to do the work, but was so mistake-prone and lacked other necessary skills.

Low key, this video makes me think his son having to live down to while still exceeding family legacy, would be Adrian Peterson

Have you done a video like this about Marc Wilson?

Baxter seemed to put up similar numbers the following two seasons

Fred "SMEAR-laas". It's "SMER-liss".

Why the hell would you draft a fullback in the first round?

@DolFan316

3 жыл бұрын

It seems ludicrous today, and trust me it was almost as absurd even back in '87.

@smitskee

3 жыл бұрын

Unless his name was Jim Brown, who had speed and power, could run people over, make people miss, catch the football, and win you football games. That's not what they drafted.

@iamhungey12345

3 жыл бұрын

It's the Jets. Even if Vick was legit, his career's death warrant was signed when the Jets drafted him.

Roger Vick is clearly a Hall of Famer

I’ll give him credit for his work ethic and his attitude. Unfortunately he couldn’t be an impact player in the NFL despite his best efforts.

It still wasn't a good pick no matter how you try to justify it. Granted knowing the Jets even if Vick was a real deal, his career was doomed the moment the Jets took him.

i do have to point out....Keith Byars was a tailback at Ohio State, not a fullback, he became a fullback later in his NFL career, and Okoye played tailback in the Chiefs Single back/Ace Formation that so many teams ran in those days. These guys weren’t playing the same position as Roger Vick

Another page from the star-crossed history of the NY Jests. 😂

The visual wasn't right from the beginning what running back worth a darn wears no.43?

If Roger Vick turned out to be a pretty decent player , then the Jets drafted a fb in the first round memes would never have been a thing . But since it’s the Jets and he was a bust , it’s a meme.