1 year after this interview, Obama proved Chomsky right by invading Libya

@date3462

3 жыл бұрын

Your name made me laugh 😂😂

@Dad-lu1oi

Жыл бұрын

@@date3462 K A?

@conchacorral3390

Жыл бұрын

But did it for Hillary, how nice

@iiLoveAutumn

Жыл бұрын

@@Dad-lu1oi Most likely changed it - it's a 2 year old comment

@brucenenke-vk5nk

Жыл бұрын

Obama didn't invade Libya, it was a popular uprising along with the Arab spring. How quickly people forget.

Chomsky: He asn't had the chance to invade anyone yet Obama: Invades Libya

@MichaelJames-lz7ni

4 жыл бұрын

Ah, "no"...there are no, there hasn't been, any foreign troops in Libya - unless you count ISIS, of course....

@franticmower7300

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelJames-lz7ni You mean the ISIS that got recruited and trained by NATO and dumped into Libya as a practice for Syria? I guess that counts as "his" invasion.

@jamesmcdonnell1465

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelJames-lz7ni there are US troops in Libya, yes

@MichaelJames-lz7ni

4 жыл бұрын

No, no, no....it was Elvis and the Aliens!

@MichaelJames-lz7ni

4 жыл бұрын

No, there are not....

And he got Nobel Peace prize.

@yw5647

4 жыл бұрын

How ironic

@deanwolfechannel

4 жыл бұрын

Completely delegitimizes the Nobels.

@axelfoley1812

4 жыл бұрын

I want Noam Chomsky on a podcast with Joe Rogan

@royronson3275

4 жыл бұрын

Murali N Obama himself was shocked he got the prize and admitted he didn’t think he deserved it. I have no idea why he got it. I’m not even an Obama hater, but their absolutely no reason why he got a Nobel Peace prize

@nobaso620

4 жыл бұрын

Never trust those prices theyare biased.

Too much truth for the salad. No wonder BBC never interviewed him again

"He's only been in office two years, so he hasn't had a chance to invade anyone yet." So much for that.

@Pete_xp

4 жыл бұрын

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@paintedhorse6880

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrJones20 I say "so much for that" but even louder. 1 year after Chomsky said this Obama invaded Lybia. He massively expanded the immoral drone program.

I love how masterfully informed Chomsky is that Paxman's condescending attitude doesn't phase him.

@jamesturner2914

4 жыл бұрын

Oxbridge twat Vs a true intellect A good education doesn't mean you're educated or indeed a true intellect

@karlminton3257

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesturner2914 He is though, it's just his job to play devils advocate for the people he interviews.

@AllfatherBlack

4 жыл бұрын

@Zachary Bushnell To be fair a strict "journalist" isn't allowed to interview or interact at all. Journalism specifically means recording what you observe, not what you instigate.

@dean42bean

4 жыл бұрын

@Zachary Bushnell It is definitely is the job of an interviewer like Paxman to ask difficult questions and argue against the person he is interviewing. If you put Paxman in an interview with a somebody arguing 'murder is bad' it would be Paxman's job to challenge their position. If you don't do that you end up with the wishy-washy American style interviews that pander to the person being interviewed.

@nosfy

4 жыл бұрын

@@dean42bean exactly!

Chomsky as always spot on in his assessment of Obama and when he was giving that interview the Libyan and Syrian fiascos were yet to take place!

@DrJones20

4 жыл бұрын

They are more than "Fiascoes"

@cliffsousa4184

4 жыл бұрын

Those wars added something like a trillion dollars to the military kitty.

@G1AM_

4 жыл бұрын

askjiir Libya was a tragedy and Syria has been a complete disaster (Still current)

@peroleable

Жыл бұрын

Libya with very good help from the today leader of NATO using Norways F16 to bomb all over the country...

@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568

Жыл бұрын

@@cliffsousa4184 they weren't 'wars', they were invasions/slaughters/desicrations.

American voters are given two choices in the voting booth: A) Increase funding and support for the military-industrial complex. B) Increase funding and support for the military-industrial complex.

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

and pharmaceutical fraud and murder

@JaleelBeig

Жыл бұрын

Basically, fight club

@coderamen666

Ай бұрын

A) imperialism abroad B) imperialism here and abroad

"When it comes to foreign policy, there is only one party, '"The War Party'." Jeremy Scahill

@omegala1

Жыл бұрын

War is big business for the elites.

Bless this man. One of the few who make us believe in humanity.

@mattblack118

Жыл бұрын

He's vile Marxist authoritarian. He hates America.

Chomsky is the most enlightened and open-minded intellectual in the history of America.

@TheBishop111

7 жыл бұрын

and you're David R.A, just another youtube commentator.

@daddyleon

7 жыл бұрын

As are we damu

@gerrymannion1383

7 жыл бұрын

World would b a bttr place if he was president

@adamchristensen2648

7 жыл бұрын

Gerry Mannion Well, I'm writing him in again this year obviously...

@bountyhunter7528

7 жыл бұрын

David R.A. Noam Chomsky is as intelligent as a pile of dog poop.

The ending says it all....he was commenting on this just two years into Obama's presidency. Noam, it got worse....

@seeseabee7165

7 жыл бұрын

Actually later Obama said that Israel should not get a blank check and the settlements are not ok. He also got Bin Ladin and pulled out of Afghanistan and cleared out Gitmo. So this is republican blindness here. On 9/11 the country agreed to go after the killers...Bush did start it but in this case, I don't agree with Chomsky fully. I think if someone flies into our buildings like that, presidents on both sides of the isle should try to finish the job. I don't like war either, but doesn't mean we bend over!!! ..You're a "sheeple". I like Chomsky because I may not agree with everything he says but he calls out most everyone except those in what he thinks is his populist or progressive movement.

@Juliocyp

7 жыл бұрын

I see you're half digesting the mainstream opinion of Obama. Bin Laden? Give me a break. Bin Laden was a goddamn caricature to justify wars and the big brother state. I don't disagree, Bush started this shit, but Obama's goddamn message was "hope and change", not; "I will make amplify the current problems".

@seeseabee7165

7 жыл бұрын

I don't buy any of the political slogans and I certainly don't buy Trump's slogan and not necessarily going on the slogan here but the what was done and what wasn't done. Obama was the one who started removing the troops from both the wars as well as the Gitmo detainees. Maybe you missed that because you're a blind republican or crying progressive. These things don't happen overnight but it could have been faster. Gitmo is now down about 40 detainees who ARE detainees that their home countries don't want. So they do have to be found a home before being let go. Doesn't mean other issues didn't start and there weren't bad decisions along the way like some of the policing and "snooping" of our own people in the name of terrorism....put in place under Bush and kept under Obama. You seem like a blind follower instead of looking at the information provided.

@Juliocyp

7 жыл бұрын

a blind republican? lol, firstly I'm a Brit. 2nd I think the Republicans are bunch of hypocrites, although if they were true to their actual message then I would be more sympathetic to them than the Democrats. Also, FYI, i don't at the moment give a shit about Gitmo. Yes it's unconstitutional, but I'm not an American. The Constitution of the United States means jack shit in Europe, although I envy the 1st Amendment. All i'm saying is Obama get so much praise and yet he's just as bad as Bush. That's the goddamn point of what Noam is saying - same shit different name.

@genxmurse7019

7 жыл бұрын

"Cleared out Gitmo", LMAO!

In retrospect, when Chomsky said “...he (Obama) hasn’t had a chance to invade anyone yet...” a great deal of insight is displayed, since Obama did invade and expand numerous countries and authorized the overthrow of at least two democratically elected Latin American countries. Hope and change, indeed.

@sedargames8161

2 жыл бұрын

Which?

@peterbartolomeo5542

Жыл бұрын

@@sedargames8161 Venezuela is one . Brazil ....Honduras .... Guatemala....

@thereisnosanctuary6184

Жыл бұрын

He didn't mean Hope and Change for Latin America.

Chomsky right as usual.

@technokokos

8 жыл бұрын

yea except he is clearly lying here. Not speaking about his opinions but he was lying when he said that only US and only few Pacific islands opposed this resolution back then. And this is something that i noticed just because i know about this one case.. probably lot of his "facts" and reliable sources are lies as well.

@traviscarver4708

8 жыл бұрын

+technokokos Enlighten us. Explain how he was wrong and provide evidence. If you do not, "assertions made without evidence are dismissed without evidence." C.H.

@technokokos

8 жыл бұрын

Travis Carver Did he provided any sources? No. So It means everything that he said is not valid by your logic? But i will find you report from the General assembly mate just please wait few days i dont have acces to pc now and it would be pain to look it up on mobile. Thanks! Lying is a strong word to use. But it is half-truth said in a way so it will match better to what he was stating and then it sound really different from how this voting went. It was really complicated and kind off "shit-show" ( sry cant find better word) at least when it comes to deciding in European union what stance it will take towards this voting. So even if it was true ( which is not) that only US and Pacific islands voted against it would still be demagogic statement when you dont state the wider context of this voting.

@furiousmat1667

7 жыл бұрын

"wait a few days" 3 months later, still no sources provided. Chomsky is doing an interview. To expect him to provide sources is a bit stupid he's being asked questions he doesn't know in advance he can't be keeping all his papers around to pull them out as he speaks. Though he does have a reputation of strong rigor and his books are copiously documented. When writing online and accusing someone of lying then yeah, providing sources to back your accusation seems like an obvious thing to do.

@ericme4767

6 жыл бұрын

So i'm pretty much the only one who cannot make out any sense in what Chomsky is saying. How is Obama making Afghanistan more dangerous worse than Bush starting the war? How is he making it more dangerous anyway? how does making one country more dangerous lead to the other one falling apart?

“He’s only been in office for 2 years he hasn’t had the chance to invade anyone yet” Oh shit this was before the invasion of Libya happened

Noam, haven't you learned yet that you can't think about things too deeply. It is unfitting for modern living and international decision-making, to think through several steps and the consequences afterwards.

@HuntingTarg

7 жыл бұрын

But Montesquieu said that that's exactly how lawmaking works. Foreign policy runs along similar lines. Look at the Bay of Pigs debacle, the Gary Powers embarrassment, and the Cuban strategic missile crisis. We didn't think very clearly or far about the consequences of our actions, and it raised global tensions.

@danielbartholomew4037

3 жыл бұрын

@@HuntingTarg r/whoooooooooosh

I am so worried - who do we have to step into this great man's shoes when he passes. I cant think of any researcher/intellect who comes close to his vigilance.

@MrRedcarpet02

3 жыл бұрын

Ari Shlaim, Norman Finkelstein. But they're passing in the years too....

@macrumpton

3 жыл бұрын

The age of intellectual political analysis is over. Everything is emotion now.

@julieswiss1

2 жыл бұрын

He is truly unique.

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

Russell Brand, J Rogan, and some less prominent journalists are doing a pretty good job. E.g., Geoffrey Sachs

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

@@macrumpton No, Russell Brand and Joe Rogan have shelved their liberal stance and are forensic now, in the stuff they research and the interpretations they give - especially brand, has become truly objective! This is also verifiable by critical reasoning, so if people put their bipartisan minds aside and look back, particularly at brands coverage, they will see that he's very fair and is doing very dangerous and Important exposes

He was worse on the war in Afghanistan for sure.

He’s so apolitical (in the sense of a party allegiance). I love that.

@dustywaxhead

3 жыл бұрын

Nonpartisan is the word 👍

@MrRedcarpet02

3 жыл бұрын

That's because the two parties have the same foreign policy. With only a rare exception

@lexle6203

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRedcarpet02 because US foreign policy is controlled by Israel lobbying them to endless wars in the middle east.

@lucasm4299

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustywaxhead Yup. That’s the correct word. Apolitical is the opposite of Chomsky

😆 “Should we go through the details?” LOL so true

Bless his soul for speaking the truth! ♥️

Everytime I watch one of his interviews or statments I wonder why he hasn't died in an "accident".

@joeyjo-joshabadu9636

4 жыл бұрын

Chomsky is too smart. He would be far too powerful as a martyr.

@michaelgray1803

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeyjo-joshabadu9636 not over

@cliffsousa4184

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's good to let your enemy speak. Make the people who follow him question him and themselves rather than removing all doubts by killing him.

@latenightlogic

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps because that far out scenario isn’t really how the world operates

@robbabcock_

4 жыл бұрын

@@latenightlogic Tell that to the families of Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi and Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko. FOIA releases have verified the many attempts at assassinations by the CIA, and at this point you either understand that's how governments work or you're hopelessly naive.

Unlike most of us he actually keeps current on these matters.

But Noam, Obama was given the nobel peace prize 2 months into his presidency before he did anything, to bring up facts hurts the feelings of all the people who voted for him and frankly hurting peoples feelings by bringing up facts is just mean!

@M3rtyville

7 жыл бұрын

He recently got the JFK Prize as well

@howardtiulaurel8698

Жыл бұрын

Obama bomb Libya illegally without congressional approval. A war crime. 🤮

@virginiavillalba6425

Жыл бұрын

Talk getting anything becouse of "race...🙊🥴🤔

@HoaDuong-yo8jc

Жыл бұрын

Nobel peace was gave the wrong one...

@jogendron6320

Жыл бұрын

F-ck your feelings.

Wow. He certainly doesn't pull any punches. Love him.

He said he hasn't had any chance of invading any country in just 2 years and now we have Syria and Libya.

He’s honest He’s smart He’s well read

@carlmarston1687

Жыл бұрын

He’s also extremely gay

@paulsolon6229

Жыл бұрын

@@carlmarston1687 ugh

@rileyjones3703

6 ай бұрын

​@@carlmarston1687I know you are, but what is he?😎

Noam's response to the interviewer regarding Nuremberg contradicts his own words from a 1990 speech, "If the Nuremberg Laws were Applied...": "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. By violation of the Nuremberg laws I mean the same kind of crimes for which people were hanged in Nuremberg. And Nuremberg means Nuremberg and Tokyo. So first of all you’ve got to think back as to what people were hanged for at Nuremberg and Tokyo. And once you think back, the question doesn’t even require a moment’s waste of time. For example, one general at the Tokyo trials, which were the worst, General Yamashita, was hanged on the grounds that troops in the Philippines, which were technically under his command (though it was so late in the war that he had no contact with them - it was the very end of the war and there were some troops running around the Philippines who he had no contact with), had carried out atrocities, so he was hanged. Well, try that one out and you’ve already wiped out everybody. But getting closer to the sort of core of the Nuremberg-Tokyo tribunals, in Truman’s case at the Tokyo tribunal, there was one authentic, independent Asian justice, an Indian, who was also the one person in the court who had any background in international law [Radhabinod Pal], and he dissented from the whole judgment, dissented from the whole thing. He wrote a very interesting and important dissent, seven hundred pages - you can find it in the Harvard Law Library, that’s where I found it, maybe somewhere else, and it’s interesting reading. He goes through the trial record and shows, I think pretty convincingly, it was pretty farcical. He ends up by saying something like this: if there is any crime in the Pacific theater that compares with the crimes of the Nazis, for which they’re being hanged at Nuremberg, it was the dropping of the two atom bombs. And he says nothing of that sort can be attributed to the present accused. Well, that’s a plausible argument, I think, if you look at the background. Truman proceeded to organize a major counter-insurgency campaign in Greece which killed off about one hundred and sixty thousand people, sixty thousand refugees, another sixty thousand or so people tortured, political system dismantled, right-wing regime. American corporations came in and took it over. I think that’s a crime under Nuremberg. Well, what about Eisenhower? You could argue over whether his overthrow of the government of Guatemala was a crime. There was a CIA-backed army, which went in under U.S. threats and bombing and so on to undermine that capitalist democracy. I think that’s a crime. The invasion of Lebanon in 1958, I don’t know, you could argue. A lot of people were killed. The overthrow of the government of Iran is another one - through a CIA-backed coup. But Guatemala suffices for Eisenhower and there’s plenty more. Kennedy is easy. The invasion of Cuba was outright aggression. Eisenhower planned it, incidentally, so he was involved in a conspiracy to invade another country, which we can add to his score. After the invasion of Cuba, Kennedy launched a huge terrorist campaign against Cuba, which was very serious. No joke. Bombardment of industrial installations with killing of plenty of people, bombing hotels, sinking fishing boats, sabotage. Later, under Nixon, it even went as far as poisoning livestock and so on. Big affair. And then came Vietnam; he invaded Vietnam. He invaded South Vietnam in 1962. He sent the U.S. Air Force to start bombing. Okay. We took care of Kennedy. Johnson is trivial. The Indochina war alone, forget the invasion of the Dominican Republic, was a major war crime. Nixon the same. Nixon invaded Cambodia. The Nixon-Kissinger bombing of Cambodia in the early ’70’s was not all that different from the Khmer Rouge atrocities, in scale somewhat less, but not much less. Same was true in Laos. I could go on case after case with them, that’s easy. Ford was only there for a very short time so he didn’t have time for a lot of crimes, but he managed one major one. He supported the Indonesian invasion of East Timor, which was near genocidal. I mean, it makes Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait look like a tea party. That was supported decisively by the United States, both the diplmatic and the necessary military support came primarily from the United States. This was picked up under Carter. Carter was the least violent of American presidents but he did things which I think would certainly fall under Nuremberg provisions. As the Indonesian atrocities increased to a level of really near-genocide, the U.S. aid under Carter increased. It reached a peak in 1978 as the atrocities peaked. So we took care of Carter, even forgetting other things. Reagan. It’s not a question. I mean, the stuff in Central America alone suffices. Support for the Israeli invasion of Lebanon also makes Saddam Hussein look pretty mild in terms of casualties and destruction. That suffices. Bush. Well, need we talk on? In fact, in the Reagan period there’s even an International Court of Justice decision on what they call the “unlawful use of force” for which Reagan and Bush were condemned. I mean, you could argue about some of these people, but I think you could make a pretty strong case if you look at the Nuremberg decisions, Nuremberg and Tokyo, and you ask what people were condemned for. I think American presidents are well within the range." chomsky.info/1990____-2/

"If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged." - Chomsky

I am so glad a smart, inteligent person is brave to tell the true. I have your books Professor.

Chomsky bravely telling the truth. Why did I not have a Noam Chomsky class at school ?

When you consider their intent, those US Presidents did not fail. They did exactly what they intended, they succeeded

@eebbeerrttpp

2 жыл бұрын

With your logic, someone who was hired to kill an innocent woman succeeded when he killed her. Are you an idiot or a complete moron?

When he vetoed the Security Council resolution, that was a bit of a turning point for me. The man I thought I voted for wouldn't have done something like that.

@juanmedina7212

Жыл бұрын

That has happened at least 42 times! Resolutions against US blockade of Cuba at least 25 times!

As a democrat, I feel like a lot of people in my party just continuing to paint all of the complexities of Obama's presidency as just being good. 2020 politics now just fucks so much with the truth.

@fuckcensorship69

Жыл бұрын

with all due respect, how does one continue to support one of the two war parties?

@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3

9 ай бұрын

I have so many mixed opinions on obama

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

He's scared, because he knows Chomsky's lightyears ahead of him intellectually, and also because Chomsky is an interviewee who actually thinks for himself.

Chomsky is one of the great scientist of this century

@kolamoose8717

3 жыл бұрын

And one of the greatest philosophers

Noam is absolutely right. He also states that Hillary will be "Obama on acid" (well, maybe not in those exact words, but...) HE IS RIGHT!!

@justmadeit2

8 жыл бұрын

Recommendation: About 4 years ago i made a video on here called 'War is not heroic' Please give it a watch, hopefully the audio that goes with it will play ok, as it might be blocked in some countries,to see it simply just type in.......War is not heroic

@bridamcgarbheith8856

8 жыл бұрын

yes Patricia ...I think he is...American people extremely brainwashed ...but so many peace loving Americans who truly want peace, and don't want to sacrifice their sons and daughters for wars which are about profits and power not what the people want.. these people are NOT leaders ...

@justmadeit2

8 жыл бұрын

+Brida McGarbheith the whole global system needs an overhaul

@gerrymannion1383

7 жыл бұрын

Brida McGarbheith ppl need tae strike whatever stop wall st fir few days things il happin that's what finally got Blair talkin tae pira the bombed docklands an London lost billions in 3 days 🍀✌peace out x

@FlashyNightmares

7 жыл бұрын

yeah he said hillary is like obama and more militant. what sucks about trump is that he doesnt believe in global warming. America makes everyone's life miserable.

So out of touch. It's been decades snice this guy has been relevant.

Shall we go through the details? The evil empire never wants to go through the details. The devil is in the details. And discussing the details will always reveal the devil. Noam is a truly wise man.

Superb and soft spoken analysis. Why don't they employ this guy as an adviser in the State Department.

@lindamorgan2678

Жыл бұрын

Well he is Jewish so he passed that requirement. A good one, not like the usual ones in there.. evil Zionist war monsters

@Handiman544 Chomsky is one of the sanest people I have ever seen and heard.

Unbelievable that paxman was totally incredulous to such a claim

Interesting people's blind spots. The number of people who hear "in SOME ways (Obama's) worse", when Noam clearly says "in MANY ways he's worse"

I wish everyone were like you and saw things this way

I was just gonna comment the same thing! Imagine Chomsky's frustration at having his predictive powers be utterly useless in preventing these atrocities, time and time again.

@anobody3803

Жыл бұрын

maybe with a proper media and democracy. What we have is an oligarchy where big business controls the politicians through the media

I Agree with you there, man. I live in Washington (a predominantly blue state) so the way I see it, my vote won't technically contribute to anyones being elected. But to me, that's not the point. When someone doesn't vote, or votes for a third party, it's a protest to the two party system. 46% of those eligible to vote in 2008 didn't vote at all. That should tell you something about what the population thinks of our political system.

Chomsky is a legend but it doesn’t matter who the president is. They don’t decide on war.

I could have sworn that was Hitchens asking the questions

@laurence090

7 жыл бұрын

Paxman

@herrklamm1454

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds nothing like Hitchens.

One of the few times I ever agreed with Noam Chomp-at-the-bit. 😂

Noam rocks!

I love Noam Chomsky everything he says when I can figure it out 🇺🇸😛 I'm against Democrats, I'm against Republicans.

@MegaFarah78

4 жыл бұрын

I don't like the western imperialism leaders

@man.6618

4 жыл бұрын

you do know that noam is a socialist right?

@furadice973

4 жыл бұрын

@Flamminio Di Sera Well clearly neither are democratic or republican in reality. they're imperialists. the two could merge to become the imperial party but then there's a chance that a genuine opposition could rise.

To his credit, Paxman is one of the few BBC journalists who is in agreement with Chomsky a lot of the time and strives to give him air time on BBC television. If you actually listen to his questioning, he's setting up right wing questioning to enable Chomsky to rebuttal. His questions are not representative of personal views but good aggressive questioning. Leaving Chomsky every opportunity to come out on top.

Noam Chomsky has such a great mind and amazing ideas

This man is simply awesome

It seems everyone only chooses the positions that support their POV.

Noam Chomsky is one of the Greatest intellectuals in the World!

"Should we go through the details?" 💯🔥🤣

And chumski is worse than all of them

The interviewer saying What? how can he be worse? Please explain(sarcastically). This is an example of something he's trying to stop, that being blind faith Ina leader who only speaks the opinion of the highest bidder.

@tSp289

8 жыл бұрын

+trollcommentsinc I don't know if it's blind faith so much as just remembering what Bush was like. He's a pretty tough act to follow in terms of sheer malevolent fucking stupidity.

@seaburyneucollins688

6 жыл бұрын

It was like lobbing a soft ball at a great batter; a great set up to show off his skill. I think the interviewer did well to ask his question like that.

@kevinhorgan2770

5 жыл бұрын

trollcommentsinc This is the bbc.

This guy's a genious.

Paxman, of course, arrogant enough to laugh at Noam Chomsky.

oh look all the conservatives now agree with chomsky

Looking back at this after Obama finished his second turn as well... and no real change nor hope.

@Morawka1

4 жыл бұрын

Many people have healthcare because of Obama, and the Paris accords gave people hope that humanity would recognize the dangers of climate change and work to mitigate it. Iran was 2 months away from having a nuclear weapon, Obama stopped that. Any military options Trump has today in Iran are owed to Obama's actions in signing the nuclear deal. Because if Iran got nukes, the middle east would be a totally different place right now. America could not risk retaliating against Iran for fear of a nuclear holocaust.

@samuelthornton9179

4 жыл бұрын

@@Morawka1 but iran never had nukes

@selahanany5645

3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelthornton9179 theres proof that it was building nukes

@samuelthornton9179

3 жыл бұрын

@@selahanany5645 that was made up by the us government

@selahanany5645

3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelthornton9179 is there proof of that?

People outside the US definitely know how undeserved that Nobel prize was.

Does anybody know which article he is referring to in the 0:34? Or have a link to the article. I would like to understand more of the background material.

Chomsky is more of a shameless provocateur than Milo Yiannopoulos . . . and is taken equally as seriously. . . LMAO

Noam Chomsky in 2008: "Vote for Obama, with no illusions."

More people do everyday friend. Humanity IS awakening.... Let's just hope it is not too late.

"Why is he wuss?" Sez the Brit. I didn't know we shared THAT slang.

Gnome Chumpski isn’t fit to carry JFK’s jockstrap, but he makes a fine Komrade.

Watching this video and others concerning Obama tends to strengthen my belief that each American President, upon attaining office, discovers that he doesn't actually have real power. Dubbya always sounded to me like a puppet, and Obama sometimes does and says things that he doesn't seem to believe in. I know little about politics. But surely I'm not the only one who wonders if U.S. Presidents owe too many favors to actually wield the power they'd expected to have.

@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think this is evident in the whole flint water situation. If Obama stayed true to his principles then that whole fiasco would be very different. Very dodgy stuff going on there

He's my favourite straight white man.

@johnnyrottenpiss

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

His colleague Steven Pinker has said that he "portrays people who disagree with him as stupid or evil..." LOL

The debt actually quadrupled under Reagan and Bush Senior; it nearly tripled under Reagan alone. Clinton turned the record deficits that he inherited and turned them into surpluses in his second term, before the GWB came along.

I think there's a very important point to be made that without Bush in the first place, Obama couldn't be argued as worse in the middle east.

@waltlutz9897

3 жыл бұрын

As much as I dislike Obama's presidency, good point.

haha "why is he.. WUUUUUUHHHHS?"

Well said.

He gave green light to Saudi Arabia to invade Jemen, one of the poorest countries in the world.

The fact the people hail and adore Obama as some saint is sickening.

@richardramfire3971

4 жыл бұрын

Paddy Magenis misinformed theta why

Damn Noam hates everyone lmao

I was talking about the Bush's attacking Iraq, which strengthened Iran greatly. Bush started the Iraq war. Obama ended it. The fact that the giant corps and their representatives ALL supported Romney says Obama is better for us.

I agree. Obama may have continued Bush's shit and possibly worsened the situation, but it was Bush who started these things in the first place.

I think Noam went a bit far with this one, Obama has maintained the status quo, thats true but that doesn't make him worse. The Afghan war was there before he came, its stupid to blame him for that and support for Israel and Egypt has been going on for decades. If there had a Republican president the US would have troops in Iran, Syria and Iraq, does anybody remember McCains Bomb Iran song, and look how many Republicans wanted troops on the ground in Syria. Obama is a mild version of the same hot sauce, but I think we all rather mild.

@patrickb5786

7 жыл бұрын

So reforming healthcare(6 presidents over a century failed), Reforming wall street, aiding in the passing of marriage equality, normalizing ties with Cuba, reached a peaceful deal with Iran and enacted toughest climate change policies so far.... so what change is lacking? If Obama was a white guy he would be loved by all.

@patrickb5786

7 жыл бұрын

So now you change the definition of "change" so you can make a point lol Ok sir, tell me which enemies the US has made recently and how does lil old Cuba and Iran help those enemies? Please enlighten this naive child.

@patrickb5786

7 жыл бұрын

Well I want to know what new enemies has OBAMA created, and how restoring ties with Iran and Cuba makes the world less safe? I have given 8 policies which make him better than Bush, you put have not only put change into quotations but also bolded it.

@patrickb5786

7 жыл бұрын

Since my comments were on OBAMA and the video is on OBAMA, your comment about making enemies should be on OBAMA. If you are going to criticize the Iran Cuba deal then it should mean that you make the world or US less safe, if not then thats a success for OBAMA and the "changes" he made. Do you have any points to make, otherwise Noam and you are wrong, and probably just hate Obama because hes black. Im sure you're just like Noam and predicted Obama would be worse than Bush before he ever took office, making predictions that never came true.

@patrickb5786

7 жыл бұрын

Yep not a single point has been made by you, if Noam doesn't make a point you can't think of one for yourself. Noam made predictions on future events and was WRONG, its that simple. You believe everything he says so even when his predictions are wrong you cant think of anything. But yes this has been a shit conversation, but very funny for me, bye from one idiot to another.

Watching this in 2016 really shows the real flaws in Chomsky's analysis here. Obama should be criticized for his Administration vetoing a U.N resolution on settlements and also continuing the drone program in Pakistan and Yemen. But worst than Bush? That makes no sense. That's like saying Carter was worst than Nixon because of Operation Cyclone in Afghanistan. Each American President has huge faults they need to be critiqued for but there are clearly ones that are better than others. Obama did the Iran Nuclear Deal(multilateral agreement backed by the P 51). Bush wanted to invade Iran. Obama has begun normalizing relations with Cuba, something no American president has done in 50 years. On Egypt Chomsky's just flat out wrong because Obama actually support the Arab Spring and the Muslim brotherhood. When Morsi was overthrown the U.S actually placed an arms embargo on Egypt. Obama has restored Multilateralism to a central position in American foreign policy whereas Bush as a very unilateral president. Even in the areas where Obama is flawed the scale is not the same as Bush. Obama has issued about 2-3 U.N vetoes over the Palestine question(which is bad). Bush issued about 8 and Reagan 18. Drone Strikes under Obama have resulted in 1000 civilian deaths. That is nothing compared to Bush's invasion of Iraq which resulted in half a million deaths 33% of which stemmed from the U.S military. And funny enough Drone strikes are used as a tactic because they are less likely to commit civilian casualties compared to other modes of warfare that were used in the War on Terror such as mass troop deployments, fighter jets, etc.

@jamaicanification

8 жыл бұрын

+tyuga jettison Ok sure I get what you're saying. On Drones of course Obama is worst than Bush because he has tripled the amount of drone attacks from the Bush years. But on every other issue he is clearly the lesser of two evils by a massive landslide. Iran......Bush wanted to bomb Iran, Obama reached a historic nuclear deal. Unilateralism, Bush and the neocons push an "us v them" go it alone attitude in the world. Obama has revived multilateralism on multiple fronts whether it's the Iran Deal, or the Deal on Syria's Chemical Weapons stockpile, or the Climate agreement. Just point this out because you have something on the left who seem to think that because all presidents engage in imperialism of some kind that there aren't differences between any of them.

@kinseyw8546

8 жыл бұрын

+JANHOI MCCALLUM I lost alot respect for Obama when he appointed a neo-conservative war hawk run his foreign policy. Clinton has destabilized the entire middle-east more than it already was. Libya is a complete failure and if John Kerry hadn't taken over and Hillary Clinton hadn't resigned to run for president Syria would literally be Libya 2.0...By allowing that cheating..lying... corrupt corporatist Hillary Clinton into that cabinet will haunt Pres Obama's legacy.

@jamaicanification

8 жыл бұрын

???Really? I mean Libya was a disaster and an act of Imperialism but what about the START Nuclear Treaty(which has cut the nuclear arsenals of America and Russia by 60%)? What about the Iran Nuclear Deal and Cuba? What about ending the Monroe Doctrine which is hugely consequential? What about the fact that according to Pew 69% of people across the world support American leadership and that support is strongest in Latin America, Africa and Asia? Obama is flawed on Drones and Libya as i have admitted but compared to most American Presidents he's pretty good.

@kinseyw8546

8 жыл бұрын

JANHOI MCCALLUM I was specifically pointing out his poor choice for Secretary of State. Obama has done amazing things I'm with the man on a majority of his choices and policies....And I think what happened in Honduras was a major Blunder as well...but again that directly goes back to Hillary Clinton. Someone that he appointed. The man fucked up on that and made a very poor choice with making her his Secretary of State...which is why I say his legacy will suffer from that...I'm not denying the positives. I'm just criticizing the negatives...know what I mean my brother?

@jamaicanification

8 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree in terms of some of the negatives you listed there. Libya and Drones as I mentioned are my biggest criticisms of him. Not prosecuting the Bankers and the Torturers from the Bush Era. I will slightly disagree with you on 2 things. (i) Hillary can definetly be blamed for the Libya intervention and(something not a lot of people talk about) the wiretapping of U.N negotiators and diplomats revealed courtesy of Wikileaks. On Honduras though it's a bit of a myth that the U.S was behind that. The Wikileaks cables specifically show U.S diplomats condemning the coup. Obama himself condemned the coup and they actually suspended cooperation with the Honduran government until the coup was over.(ii) Clinton did have her positives as well from the START Treaty to normalizing relations with Burma. So it wasn't all bad.

There is a old movie called "judgement at Nuremberg " that clearly explains Chomsky 's position"

do we have anyone that approaches chomsky's level? what do we do when he's not here anymore?

I concur.

Got to addmitt it , most liberals would give democrat presidents a pass , Chomsky doesn't

Thank God we learned valuable lessons in Vietnam about the futility of interventionist policy. Let countries sort out the messes they create.

Well, that doesn't exactly make the case for "Trickle Down" any better.

There is and old saying in romanian " The dogs bark, the bear keeps walking "

Worse than George Bush and tony Blaire is still a strech IMO.

Hitch didn't see that one coming.

Agreed. You can influence people outside of politics. You were complaining about government, and I pointed out that in gov, not corp, you can work your way into the inside. But totally agree that there are other ways you can have influence. In another direction, you could be a research scientist who cures prostate or breast or another killer cancer.

We get so hung up on names like Bush or Obama when they make no difference at all. Bush may sound like a moron, Obama may sound classy, but the same old endless war machine charges forward no matter which effigy's name it's being done in.

I'm not an anarchist or anything near it but I respect Chomsky simply because most anarchists would be to afraid to openly critise Obama for fear of looking racist. Most anarchists I know also don't advocate for freedom of speech which I've always thought is strange but Chomsky does, even if it means he faces criticism from the left. He's capable of having independent thoughts not just saying what the sheep want to hear.

Neither did the US State Dept, or presumably they wouldn't have funded them.

Remember that peoples likeliness to call you a conspiracy theorist is a learned response. Noam has said this before in a few interviews, that our education and media industry has been instilling us with these responses for decades, it would be worthwhile reading up on his reasoning for that, its an extremely good way to get people to listen.

i think what puzzles people in the USA is that intellectuals, i mean REAL intellectuals, actually can pinpoint good and bad decisions in people without applying a consistent lable to them. meaning: just because you disagree with most of what donald trum (e.g.) does, you do not necessarily worhip what obama did, or vice versa. to a great number of US americans it's strictly either/or. you can not hold a position that is not entirely in favor or entirely against.