If Donald Trump would have be asked the same question.... His answer, "I'm very rich, I'll build wall around Apple's office and starve them until they give me the key, then I'll use the key to play Subway Surfer and never die using the key" 🔑

@VidyaSagar-gm6jz

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@VidyaSagar-gm6jz

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@VidyaSagar-gm6jz

8 жыл бұрын

lol...

@VidyaSagar-gm6jz

8 жыл бұрын

lol....

@nnextccode8456

8 жыл бұрын

+Smarak Palai And make apple pay for that wall...

You may agree with Mr. Obama or you may disagree with Mr. Obama, but you cannot ignore that Mr. Obama is witty and sharp as a samurai blade

@NirmalThani

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank Dalla damn frank lol

@MrDanielmiaojiachen

8 жыл бұрын

+docoftheworld gimme a break

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

@BuddahBopp

8 жыл бұрын

+leounn truth be told

@TehDMBfan

8 жыл бұрын

+leounn Different kind of liberty taken out of context to mislead. We've moved on since the 1700s. We have essential liberty. We are talking about our long-term safety and the place of technology in society. Think before you quote.

@brmillgr

8 жыл бұрын

+Pablo Rages they want to set a precedent so that they can have an easier time accessing private information in the future so no its not irrelevant. Stop being a shortsighted dummy

@jblackmel

8 жыл бұрын

+leounn As Obama clearly said, there were no iphones back then, nor was technology as advanced as it is today. So, although many can agree with your quote, context is important.

@fourninesfine9141

8 жыл бұрын

+leounn That's always been one of my favorite quotes. I think the context is irrelevant, it stands on it's own and can be applied to many situations, including this one.

This issue is far more simple than most people try to argue about. The cell phone (or for that matter a computer or some other digital device) has become an extension of us as human beings and warrants to have the same level of security as our minds have. So, the legal answer is: get a warrant, show up at my door and ask for password. BUT, here is the technical side of the argument, which really is the meat of this post: We have to choose between security or insecurity, not just select a degree of security. A crypto-system is either secure or it's not. By building in back doors we create insecure system. Companies should build as secure of a system as they possibly can, while US government should hire the brightest minds it can to crack that security. Any and all security throughout the history of humanity has always been "cowboys and Indians" or "Cat and mouse" game. A crypto-system system can not be considered secure unless it resisted many attacks by skilled attackers over a long period of time. Building in back door inherently undermines what the definition of security is.

@linusmlgtips2123

8 жыл бұрын

K

@Lamawalrus

8 жыл бұрын

+Igor Petrusky Nah, it isn't that simple as levels of security do exist.

@ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz

8 жыл бұрын

Lamawalrus Levels of security most certainly exist and the usual way to differentiate them is by the amount of time it would take to break the "locking mechanism", encryption in this case. The problem with adding back doors is that there is no more "breaking" needed to access data, there is no security with back doors. In the past US GVT limited export of encryption algorithms to the weaker ones (56-bit DES) while stronger encryption types were not licensed for export. Now the rest of the world caught up, and everyone has access to strong encryption (triple-DES, AES-256, RSA-4096+) and the new path of building in back doors is not an acceptable path, because it simply is no longer an encryption system, it's just junk.

@Lamawalrus

8 жыл бұрын

Igor Petrusky Depends on how much meaning you attribute to the word "backdoor", if it's simply "an alternative means of access beyond the one of the user", then it could have the same level of security (according to your method of differentiation) as the user had, in theory

@ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz

8 жыл бұрын

Lamawalrus That would be a "second front door"... Lets say that there is a 2nd password or a key that decrypts the data, there are 3 possibilities: 1. This key is unique for every device. 2. The key is universal. 3. There is a universal way to derive a unique key given a specific device. This 3rd way is similar in security to 2nd way. In the case #2, this is a bad idea, because this 1 key opens every device, it's just like running a big business and having your grandmaster key stolen, now the thief can open any door he wishes without you even knowing about it... Having a huge database of unique 2nd keys is not very practical, but could work. Here the security of the whole system is defined by security of the database, so if every fbi agent has access to it, what is to stop someone from posing a copy of it on a black-hat forums... ANYTIME there is any sort of back-door, there is no more security; just a perception thereof.

The most balanced opinion on this subject I ever heard. This is the position of a real leader.

@ricardo.mazeto

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Moretti If you oppose his oppinion why don't you do it with arguments and reason instead of rant and curse?

@ricardo.mazeto

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Moretti frog is is gently? You don't even know how to put words together dude. Haha! Give me a break.

@user-kp5ps7gj8b

8 жыл бұрын

+Ricardo Mazeto nope not balanced at al.

@landon6339

8 жыл бұрын

+Ricardo Mazeto I will "do it with arguments" for him. I respect Obama, but he is in over his head. He talks of "compromise", but there is no such thing when you are talking about encryption. It is not physically or mathematically possible to have a secure backdoor. I work in this field and can answer whatever questions you may have. Encryption is math. Even if you completely ignore that point and "ban" math, you still have the issue of creating a backdoor in an algorithm that has to be, by nature, open source. Even if it was not open source, there is no backdoor that can be implemented that cannot be abused by "hackers". It is just not possible. This is similar to whispers in a way. Of course we wish that we could have access to every conversation that happened between "terrorists", but the reality is we cannot. Encryption is the digital equivalence of whispers. It is just not mathematically possible to have an encryption algorithm that the government can eavesdrop on that hackers cannot. If you think I am wrong, then get ready to dig into the research, because I know what I am talking about and to quote yourself, "If you oppose his opinion why don't you do it with arguments and reason"

@ricardo.mazeto

8 жыл бұрын

Neo Theone Why not?

should've asked DJ Khaled for the key, smh

@ledama90

8 жыл бұрын

Lol😂😂

@iTheNem3sis

8 жыл бұрын

+JD Wagler you win at winning.

@jerryscanas

8 жыл бұрын

+JD Wagler Put the hinges in the Fuckbois hands

@peterparker2981

5 жыл бұрын

He would have said, another one!

And one other thing the FBI doesn't need Apple to get into the phone..

@TDC_TheDocumentaryChannel

8 жыл бұрын

+Donn Worry I've heard people say that, but I haven't seen proof.

@CarneyAsada101

8 жыл бұрын

Yes they do. Search for the motion filed by federal prosecutors on the web. It's a pdf file. It goes into great details about why it's necessary that Apple create this. Not only for the customers security, but because they need Apple's "signature" in the code for it to work. As well as the OS having to match the ECID to the ECID of the physical phone itself. Which means the OS wouldn't work on any other phone because the ECID didn't match.

@Nibiru2012ishere

8 жыл бұрын

+The Daily Conversation you honestly don't think they have hackers that can't crack their encryption...

@TDC_TheDocumentaryChannel

8 жыл бұрын

+Donn Worry What I've seen is what he said ^^^

@Nibiru2012ishere

8 жыл бұрын

+The Daily Conversation how can you see something that is said? Just curious?

What a composed man . I don't care what your opinion is, Obama is one well spoken fellow.

@calvinh.8882

8 жыл бұрын

+Cole Droster , Did you not see his arms and hands every time he started talking! You can really tell his puppet master should work more on that, it was so apparent someone was pulling his strings! lol.. But, facts are they have talked to specialist so much on this subject the past few months, that he should have learned what to and what not to say..

@TehDMBfan

8 жыл бұрын

+Julian Silva Lawyers have to weigh up the arguments for and against. That is what they do. It's how they are trained. Composed and rational.

@TehDMBfan

8 жыл бұрын

***** Still using logic and reason. That's why I'm saying a legal mind and a legal background is pretty good for a president.

@TehDMBfan

8 жыл бұрын

***** Compare that to Donald Trump.

@jimnielsen6667

6 жыл бұрын

That's all he did.. Talk talk talk..

Even being objective, I really don't see any republican candidate, who is now running for president, that could have such a well-reasoned and levelheaded dialog such as this.

@jblackmel

8 жыл бұрын

Pablo Rages What specifically was "vague?"

@draculakickyourass

8 жыл бұрын

+jblackmel As ,for example you ask me what day is today and i answer we are in the 21th century.

@jasonbugznoll9250

8 жыл бұрын

The true question is there any good candidates on ether side. Democrat or Republican? They just give us the same thing.

@blueschewsmith

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Nol -- Damn man thats really original being completely cynical and everything!

@0mnis14sh

8 жыл бұрын

+jblackmel They are not even close to this level of dialogue; most of my tech enthusiast friends aren't either which is the really worrying part which definitely plays into the "sloppy" politics Obama was forecasting in this.

people of the US, you will realize eventually that how great of a man you had for president for 8 years.. Your history books will remember him as one of the greats I think.

@lirending1

3 жыл бұрын

The biggest challenge we have now is conspiracy theories propagated by extremists domestically and interferences from foreign enemies. It's leading to a self-destructive path when the majority losses institutional trust.

this guy is way better than what we have in choice for the next president. well spoken. America is great..

@donaldderp1602

8 жыл бұрын

+chris fearless Bernie Sanders is miles above this actor. Obama isn't the nice guy you think he is, he works for wall street & corporations.

@islanddreams4805

8 жыл бұрын

+Cory Tant lol. actually trump is the actor

@importedinventions

8 жыл бұрын

+chris fearless and his supporters are the idiots that cheer on still believing WWE wrestling is real...

@islanddreams4805

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@islanddreams4805

8 жыл бұрын

Wow....let me ask you something. When was america great then. The good ole days???WHEN

A fair intelligent balanced discussion, now America what would have been the drumps response. THINK AMERICA PLEASE !!!

@xImSmile

8 жыл бұрын

+Dan Lubar need to build a wall .

@importedinventions

8 жыл бұрын

+SmileArtz haha!!! a wall of iPhones!

@xImSmile

8 жыл бұрын

importedinventions yes.

To use his key analogy PROPERLY, what they want is a master key for every lock, while still having the "regular" (personal) key for "normal people". Once you put this master key concept into encryption, the encryption is worthless, anyone can bypass it. There is no such thing as a "key that only a couple people have". As an amateur locksmith (and a professional "IT Guy"), I can assure you this does not exist. Once you create that master key, there is no stopping anyone from getting it, ever. There IS NO MIDDLE GROUND HERE (normally, I argue the solution IS the middle ground, but that just doesn't work in this case. PERIOD.

@KyleManwell

8 жыл бұрын

Your honestly a nobody compared to the IT minds behind the coding in the stated encryption software

@tasnimmiah5

8 жыл бұрын

+Kyle Manuel what he says is true.

@gerff01

8 жыл бұрын

Kyle Manuel You are right, but then again, most of those guys are DEAD (at least the minds behind the encryption algorithms they used, the implementation of these algorithms isn't really all that hard). Compared to them, there are very few people who are anybody at all in this area, but that has nothing to do with anything else, at all. Your claim is little more than an ignorant childish remark, made by an ignorant troll. I am not sure if you were trying to discredit me, to say I don't know what I am talking about, or just because you felt the need for someone to "hear" you over in your little corner so that no-one forgets you are over there, and so they remember why you are being ignored; so a little more clarity with your intent may help to clear up the reason for your meaningless little outburst.

@25thbaam43

5 жыл бұрын

So ..if so far the mit/nasa etc etc were hacked so many times ..what stops a hacker to get a hold of that so called master key?and once hes got it there is no way preventing him from shareing it with others..in short i woud rather not use a pfone at all instead of useing an apple pfone if the guvern gets such a 'master key'

I'm going to miss this President... Regardless of what I may think about any particular position he may have he's probably one of the smartest people we've elected to this job. Just imagine what he could have gotten done if Congress had collectively applied their own intellects towards problem solving instead of obstructionism.

@crispy-k

8 жыл бұрын

+a24396 kenedy? well it didn't last but you know.

@fallenentity2

8 жыл бұрын

+a24396 So you've been living under a rock since he was inaugurated?

@a24396

8 жыл бұрын

fallenentity2 Why no, I haven't been living "under a rock" since Obama was inaugurated... But, I don't suppose you actually think I have lived under a rock... So, maybe you could make clear what you're tying to say because I honestly can't tell...

President Obama highlighted the challenge of balancing privacy and security in the digital age.

@imperatornicolae3232

8 жыл бұрын

+The Daily Conversation You mean that Obama is Pointing a finger in the other direction saying, look this is (not) similar to this and we should do the same here as we do there.

@imperatornicolae3232

8 жыл бұрын

+danX Nicolae (For got something)And we Should give, Everything we hold dear to our country to control and decide if its ok or not because we cant decide for our self's. Like that photo of you're child from there first birthday, That if deleted will never come back. Would you really give that power to a you're government, that anyone can join. O and You now that constitution of you'res that so grate, well that same constitution dose not give you the right to vote for who will be you're president, that privilege goes to the government. The Same government system that has put america in a Det of 16 trillion dollars and growing. So Can We Really Trust Them?

@CuttinBlade

8 жыл бұрын

+danX Nicolae I have no idea what that means. You make no sense.

@imperatornicolae3232

8 жыл бұрын

You're not the first to say that.

@ashtonguidry679

8 жыл бұрын

+The Daily Conversation Lets change the nature of the question. If i write my own encryption. Is saying I have to give them a code for it fall under the 5th amendment as giving testimony against oneself?(Obviously it does so why is the apple question any different its not like terrorist don't and cant write write encryption so why are we making a back door to one thing when in the larger scheme it does nothing but create a security risk to individuals)

the question is, if a man had a prisoner in a vault and the police needed free the prisoner, but the only key for that vault could also open everyone else's vaults, should they get the key?

@boringperson-zb8vy

8 жыл бұрын

Simplest option would be to get the owner's key. Except considering this is an analogy of encryption, this will be difficult.

@mirzarizwan6855

3 жыл бұрын

@@boringperson-zb8vy That’s not possible.

@Hastur876

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Totally disagree. Nobody/org should have a back door.

@stoneli6101

8 жыл бұрын

+Stone Li Make a law and define in which case APPLEs should help gov.

@landon6339

8 жыл бұрын

+Stone Li there is no "in which case". If they help once, they help every case.

@MrJesuismoche

8 жыл бұрын

+Landon Adrian Well ok.... i agree.... but like obama said how then do we do to stop terrorism, radicalisation, child pornography, murderes, crime in general ? It's a concession we've got to make untill we find a solution for it. Do you disagree ?

This guy is damn good with his words. You just have to be better at reading between the lines. He pretty much told everyone what nobody wants to hear but made people feel it was right.

What an excellent public conversation. The POTUS engaging today's issues in a careful way, with evident understanding of both the issues and groups involved. Glad to see this.

This guy should be a politician

@Venganza_

5 жыл бұрын

I know right he's so well spoken he would make a great senator or something!

@anshulshah1219

3 жыл бұрын

True

They are already talking about seeing who can hit their iphones and ipads the farthest with a baseball bat, when this deal is made. ”Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

@connorhobbs8515

8 жыл бұрын

Deep

@ainkaran6708

8 жыл бұрын

+Connor Hobbs the p

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin

@chrisplays9072

8 жыл бұрын

+innomind He didn't have the kind of technology we have and Benjamin Franklin was talking about quartering soldiers numb nuts haha

@mishanya2077

8 жыл бұрын

***** 1. How "working hard in life" helps you better understand constitution and the rule of law? (Hint: you do that buy studying the constitution and the law, not by working in the field) 2. Teaching art and studying art is also hard work...

I know high school kids who can get into any iphone.

@TDC_TheDocumentaryChannel

8 жыл бұрын

+Deven Brown Sure you do...

@bicybicoldaccount6730

8 жыл бұрын

+The Daily Conversation yes, using one of apples graphical glitches on the lock screen you can bypass the lock screen ( done by pulling down the notification bar and quickly swiping up on the Camera. )

@Dzztzt

8 жыл бұрын

All it takes is a stick of butter, a length of twine and some old newspapers.

@Postalpacifist

8 жыл бұрын

+GoldenMonkeyBeats That's on android phones, not iphones...

@jimmonade

8 жыл бұрын

No on an iPhone.. And the glitches have been fixed.

I still disagree with him but his answer made me think

It's good to see Obama being so informed on the topic. Still hard to take him seriously though, as NSA's overreach only got worse during his presidency. It needed to be revealed for us to have this debate.

I totally agree.

Please somebody tell me how to access the"Swiss Bank Account"I have in my pocket!It could be helpful in these times.

If Apple or any one else won't design that strong encryption then Open Source will

@wizcombo

8 жыл бұрын

The irony of OPEN source designing encryption

With technology, any access means access to everyone. The digital encryption is as strong as it's weakest link. If you allow access to anyone else than yourself, you've allowed it to everyone.

How does he use the words "Bill of rights" and "Constitution" and keep a straight face?

I just like that we can listen to someone speak in this interview. The question is actually meant to be a question, not a trap as usual. Very soothing

To think Government cant gain entry to an iphone is laughable.

You should not care if the government is looking through your phone unless you did something wrong

@picklesandcheese25

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Moretti You should not care to respond with such an answer if you're gay

@yolosock4459

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Moretti thats true, but drawer and phone isnt the same thing

@yolosock4459

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Moretti yeah, just like other normal people

@derekkronenberger9376

8 жыл бұрын

Except people have private conversations and photos that they don't want getting out. It's not that someone did something wrong, we don't want the wrong people getting into our phones. If you did nothing wrong, then by your knowledge, don't even put a passcode on your phone.

@yolosock4459

8 жыл бұрын

Derek Kronenberger The government won't show your private conversations and pictures to the public. They're only doing it because they want to protect people from harm. The reason we have passcode is so normal, non government people, won't steal your phone and your privacy.

He's saying that we should not take an absolutist view, but we don't have a choice. It's effectively the laws of mathematics that underpin encryption. It not a philosophical question of values, it is a question of mathematics. 999,999,999 might seem like 1,000,000,000, but it isn't and that tiny hole that has the potential to cause massive damage.

liberty can not be compromised, intruding without permission is a violation of human rights.

@walidhoyek6758

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Burrows true but sometimes we say these things only to make others like us feel they this the same and are not alone.

@chris_burrows

7 жыл бұрын

Things like what? That human rights is a human concept, that I respect talented artists, or that the world would be better off run by scientists on a case by case basis?

@walidhoyek6758

7 жыл бұрын

thank the world is ruled by evil and that u can change nothing but yourself.

Why cant President Barack Obama talk about the specific case?

@wrongwayup.

8 жыл бұрын

+Antony Gomez Ureña That's quite obvious, isn't it? Firstly because it is an active investigation, which can be damaged if he speaks about it.

The US government wants to track iDevices without the knowledge of Apple. As a common citizen this is really something not to agree with. 😩😩😩

wonder what Trump's response would be? i'm sure it would be GREAT! - at least to him

Being Neutral, choosing either sides in this debate is not easy. Arguments from both the sides are really strong and very valid and certainly raises questions and a debate between privacy and security.

Name an encryption that has not been hacked.

@MycketTuff

8 жыл бұрын

+bugsz1 Number stations to start off with

i'm sure there's hacker who can crack phones...the issue here isn't who can crack what....or how strong the encryption should be....it is simply you can't make someone create a spare key for their door and give it to you just because you are the gov...ya come break down our door and with a warrant but i would never give you a key to my house.

@achildcalledit8638

8 жыл бұрын

bingo

@jones02ghosting

8 жыл бұрын

+Be Content and silent the mind I like this illustration, and say that the solution proposed by the government, a key, is a flawed solution, or at least an ineffective one. Obama suspects that the key will be given to the government and that they can keep it completely safe from any intruder who aims to acquire it. I believe that this key will never be completely safe, and anyone who is technologically educated is aware of this.

@odd6554

8 жыл бұрын

It's good to see that you haven't tackled the issue of identifying terrorists. Just "it's my right. Full stop". Probably best to stay away from the discussion until you can take into account how to identify terrorist in disguise.

@keeperkai999

8 жыл бұрын

+Darft Pom And who is monitoring the government to do bad things with the information about you? Before someone wants to sell all their stocks, the government knows...a politician creating problems for certain government officials have some personal issues, the officials can use this to stop a revolution before it has even started... Soon the government will become overpowered and corrupted and become the terrorist... If you look back in history, you'll see this bs every single time, government tries to sell "security" for your freedom and becomes overpowered and then corrupted, that's how empires fall... Obama is a cool guy and uses reason to talk to the people, but he doesn't even mention the officials that straight up lied to the public about not monitoring the public, when actually they are even recording most transmissions on the internet in case someday they need it, isn't lying to the public a crime? None of them are held responsible for their acts and that is not right.

@keeperkai999

8 жыл бұрын

+Darft Pom how to identify terrorists? Do it the old way. Terrorists are criminals, does monitoring your private chat stop criminals? Hell no, crimes are happening left and right anyways but somehow this warrants the government to go into your house anytime they want? Hell no. Law enforcement deals with criminals, it has nothing to do with law abiding citizens, just like you shouldn't spy on the common folks in the name of "security". You say it like the police can just show up at your door and say I wanna search your house because someone else is stealing, with no reasonable cause and no judge to warrant. The government are people too, just like the police, if you give them this kind of power, they will surely be corrupted. That's why the law requires the police to have reasonable cause and a warrant from of judge to do anything searching, it's to prevent corruption. Somehow when dealing with terrorists it's different? Even in the current law system, with this level of prevention of corruption, we still hear time to time that there are corrupted cops, and now you want to get rid of it entirely and give the free pass to all NSA agents? Sounds smart lol.

I will miss this man deeply.

@tikiman48

8 жыл бұрын

Name one good thing that he has done for this country please

@HackAcadmey

8 жыл бұрын

i will to and i am not even American i like how he carrys the conversation very amazing and inspirational stuff for me.

@tikiman48

8 жыл бұрын

+Viral Chavda name one good thing he has done politically

@tikiman48

8 жыл бұрын

+Lashadpretty one: what do you mean get a real profile Two: please name ONE thing Obama did to help the country

@florisgroothof8617

8 жыл бұрын

+tikiman48 Obama kind of reconnected the United States with the rest of the world. I'm not an American--I'm European. You can look at the Wikipedia article on his policies to check out what he did the last eight years. I don't know why you're asking me. Little weird... I just stated that I'll miss him.

whats the issue with china?? i didn't understand that reference.

How did we solve crime before having access to everyone's phone?

Yay! More police state! Go Obama! This guy is almost as amazing as George Bush was!

@jblackmel

8 жыл бұрын

+AlthazarMalthus "Police state?" He clearly explained the difficulty in trying to find a balance between privacy and security. Were you not following the dialog?

@AlthazarMalthus

8 жыл бұрын

***** You have no more privacy. It is all "security"(you're not secure if the government & all these big companies have access to & are sharing your information). The US government created the terrorist organization that they are now pretending to protect you from. They have been using this organization to destabilize countries & depose leaders who are inimical to their empire building. Educate yourself & stop supporting the police state.

Barack Reagan

@becton98

8 жыл бұрын

that's scarily accurate

On the Internet, no one is allowed to have opinions. If you say your opinion, you'll get attacked for it. Why is that?

@ankershiv

8 жыл бұрын

Quite the contrary. You can say whatever you want on the internet and provide no justification for it. You can enter, leave and derail a conversation whenever you feel like. Because of this sheer amount of opinions, clashes are imminent.

@CosmicConsole

8 жыл бұрын

These are great points. I just have to wonder why people can't sometimes accept someone's opinion.. Like does it really matter if some one likes something you don't?

@jakebruce11

8 жыл бұрын

Opinions can be wrong. Everything has reasons behind it, and if people's reasons are bad, we should be open to criticize them for it. That's how we make progress.

@CosmicConsole

8 жыл бұрын

+jakebruce11 Hmm... Fair point

Very well said the analogies on intrusion make the case in itself

The truth of the whole matter is this, every person in this world is in trouble with regards to Technology as a whole. its out of control and soon, 10 years max AI will crush us all. the proposal of an unbreakable system of computers will also remove humans in total. We've all become complacent and far to trusting of technology as a whole. the unification of human and Machines is so obviously a bad idea, because we as a human spices understand little and technology now rules us. there for we have no control

@natalecriscimagna447

8 жыл бұрын

ditto that.

I speak for the entire hacking community when I say I agree with Obama on this one. Add the back door. We promise we won't abuse it.....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

@tommylarrett7679

8 жыл бұрын

proof or gtfo

@tommylarrett7679

8 жыл бұрын

That's just playing with the language though. If the government wants a way to circumnavigate security, then they're asking for a backdoor.

@tommylarrett7679

8 жыл бұрын

the exploit will get pushed to all apple devices. Thats the problem

@tommylarrett7679

8 жыл бұрын

Pablo Rages What?

I mostly agree on his point of view, but I come to think. What if I build a safe wich cannot be opened without destroying the data thats inside. Where does that put me on the spectrum? Is it thinkable that this would be considered 'against the law' in future?

Let's pretend like a FBI Cray supercomputer can't crack an iPhone within 2 minutes. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@derekkronenberger9376

8 жыл бұрын

It can't because those computers just try a bunch of pass codes, which you can't do on this iPhone or it'll wipe itself. That supercomputer cannot crack the current encryption on the phone or they would've done it by now

@memerichment

8 жыл бұрын

+Derek Kronenberger good luck explaining that to these collosal retards

damn obama back at it again with the levelheadedness.

@Wiliamstuff

8 жыл бұрын

+AzPharizon suprised he didn't mentioned his global warming this time

@aristearold6441

8 жыл бұрын

+Genadijus Puskinas yes fool global warming is real.

I watched the whole speech and what Obama explains is not the Apple/FBI Iphone battle.

@Pfromm007

8 жыл бұрын

+Emre Durak He said at the very beginning of the video that he cannot comment on it specifically.

@kurtz9977

8 жыл бұрын

+Emre Durak - he had a noble response and didn't pretend he knew everything about the case, but instead opened an intellectual discussion about the privacy vs security debate

@Pfromm007

8 жыл бұрын

David Reid See, that is a fantastic point you're making. And I agree with you wholeheartedly, thank you for sharing what should never be forgotten as a fundamentally important component of our individual freedoms. Especially now that it has come out that the phone has been cracked anyway, and another piece of individual American freedom has been cut from us, like a perfectly healthy limb.

@davidreid4904

8 жыл бұрын

Arkadiem I'm glad you came around, this issue is very important and SO not about "fetishizing a piece of tech."

contrast this articulation with "flipping should be illegal" and "we should take the guns away first, and do the due process later, because sometimes that takes too long"

Well said. I will give this more thought.

He addressed the issue incredibly, I couldn't agree more. (Former Apple Software Engineer.)

I love this guy, President obama has really matured after 2 terms

What he DOESN'T tell you, is if you have a SAFE in that house they have a warrant for, they cannot compel you to give them the combination for that safe. They would have to have a warrant for that safe specifically, and they could crack it, but they still could not FORCE YOU to give them that combination. It is the same with encryption, they can trick you, they can crack it (if possible), they can time an "attack" to take your stuff while you have it open (has been done), but they CANNOT MAKE YOU GIVE THEM THE CODE.

good point, need to have backdoors into devices but only accessible when it poses a security risk to the well-being of other individuals.

As soon as he opened his mouth i knew he was gonna start bullshitting, man he is just winging it.

Sorry Obama, WE THE PEOPLE support AAPL! Government surveillance needs to POWER DOWN!

Wow. I had no idea he had such a deep understanding of the issue.

Someone should explain the apple debate and the constitution to Obama.

@ChaosCooperated

8 жыл бұрын

Consti- what- Obama

Should be titled "President Obama doesn't know what he is saying about encryption"

@kevingarywilkes

8 жыл бұрын

+Mason Newitt I'd love to hear you sound more intelligent and coherent in an interview before a public audience. You should be titled "Mason Nitwit."

@DesignAutomationStudio

8 жыл бұрын

kevin wilkes You must not know much about encryption.

Thanks you for explaining. -- Summer Glau

that is the only balanced view I've heard on this matter and he made some excellent points.

I love how he goes one big round just to explain a problem.

I must say, the final point is a really good one.

There is no foolproof encryption.

Incredibly well spoken.

@HackAcadmey

8 жыл бұрын

it's quite mind blowing how well spoken this guy is .hope i can learn this and compare his speaking skill with trump

How does it work then? There weren't thousands of other cellphones waiting in line for the okay?

Good reflection on every argument.

A big question is, how can we make sure that the IDEA OR INVENTION OR A INNOVATIVE PROTOTYPE will be fully credited to you?

I am curious as to why we can't build a system like you see in movies for giant safes, where there is 2 keys or 4 keys that have to be turned at the same time. So, for a digital thing, we have the system check the IP address, and that is part of it, and have a password. But at the SAME TIME there is 4 other people who have their IPs and passwords. Then, in order to continue to look at the information, you have to, by law, have more than 1 person in the room of the device in question. Like a courtroom or something. So that it can be monitored heavily. The place where the device is, and all the people who have the passwords are separate as well. The people who have the passwords are given the case, and are told to rule on if we need that data or not. However, they will never see that information, as they are separate entities. Though with that I am not sure how they would deem it necessary to do that. That would create a system of check and balances, and would protect privacy as well, at least some. I would like to see something like that built, changed to match what our country needs in terms of safety and security, but that seems to me like it would be a good idea, at least somewhat.

Backdoor gets added and hundreds of thousands of 'hackers' turn their focus to gaining access to this extreme power. Being able to access girlfriends, bosses, bank employees, government, police and everyone else's phones is an awesome power. Add the backdoor, don't add the backdoor... all I know is I will admittedly be on the hacking end.

Apple will gain a lot of respect with this stance.

LMAO!!! Talk about Mr. Executive Overreach!!!

what about the evidence that the NSA collected information in drug crimes without a warrant

If PRIVACY was actually an important issue, then people would be rallying around South Carolina's attempts to protect it.

It's simply put like this, the government can already get in to ANY phone, the problem is being able to use the data under the privacy act which is what they are trying to get round.

Nicely said.

2008 Obama definitely had the charisma, but honestly speaking, a 2016 Obama seems greatly more intelligent and experienced.

@BookuMoney87

8 жыл бұрын

Jason, are you willing to give up your privacy for security? I accidentally deleted my previous post.

10:37 is that a threat? Also what if perfect encryption is created? Then what? Will they make it illegal to use while using it themselves?

unless we want 2 keys to open 1 lock like the nuke system.

@bruceliu1657

8 жыл бұрын

+sudo base no only when the back door is needed

His erratic blinking clearly indicates he is simply repeating prompts fed to him though earpiece headphones..Nothing he says is genuine..

@HackAcadmey

8 жыл бұрын

earpiece where ?? lol is there invisible earpiece have you ever seen actually earpiece ??

why is there a mic under the chair? they listen to his mouth or his feet?

@becton98

8 жыл бұрын

because politicians talk out of there arses

As much as I don't like him (as a president), and side very heavily with Apple, this was a great explanation and discussion on encryption and the current case between the FBI and Apple.

When the force is in perfect balance...

It's been a while since I've heard Obama speak and, as you can guess (with the current political climate), it's very refreshing. Dude is so freaking rational! I like it.

Obama is very intelligent. As a person with technical background I didn't expect Obama to be able to discuss encryption the way he did. Respect!

@keeperkai999

8 жыл бұрын

+k odu Yeah, he is. Usually I would agree with most of the things he says, but in this case I don't think he is fair. There are government officials that straight up lied to the public that they were not being monitored, but the truth is internet transmissions are recorded and stored on a daily basis, and could be accessed any time they wanted, the officials were not held responsible to lying to the public nor even removed from their position. And he even went out to use the "pedophile/child pornagraphy" card, saying it is impossible to find pedophiles without breaking into everyone's privacy. That sounded a bit disgusting to me. As a president, he should know that even when dealing with these criminals, the police needs "reasonable cause" and get a warrant from a judge, but this is not the case for NSA/CIA, they pretty much just do whatever they want, and that is dangerous/would lead to corruption.

Without probable cause? The point of this is if there is a criminal or a suspect he could be tracked down to save lives

why are we talking only apple, what about other smart phones,, do they have key already??? Anyone got an answer???

@joshuaochoa9825

8 жыл бұрын

Apple is more secure. At least they're more concern.

@natalecriscimagna447

8 жыл бұрын

Joshua Ochoa also read that Guys from Google were at Builderburg meeting this last year. So I would think they cooperate with Others.. since all other ohones are run by chrome. Just thinking this out a bit. Crazy World were living in right now, isnt it?

@natalecriscimagna447

8 жыл бұрын

Life was a lot less stressful before cell phones, and all this tech stuff.

I think that in this situation the problem that people feel is that the government could pick a member of the country, and search his/her whole life, chats, calls etc. and they will surely find a thing to insult the person, or send him to jail. Because nobody is guiltless nowdays... And I wouldnt feel comfortable if I'd watch out for all my chats and calls because maybe a day someone will want to see me in jail.

My biggest issue with these kind of 'backdoor keys' is that they won't even accomplish the desirable results, they will only open up the undesirable. Why do I say this? Because encryption on the hardware/firmware side that the company puts in, and could thus create a backdoor key for, is only one point of encryption. Software does encryption just as well, and most software is not put on by the manufacturer. Anyone can encrypt basically anything, and no one will have the key but the people who encrypted it. The encrypted portions of the internet are already where the pedophiles communicate, where weapons and drug deals are made, and... oh, right, that's also where your banking happens, and all of your online purchases. Most of the internet is encrypted. That's the world we live in today. No government imposed 'backdoor key' will ever get at what someone wants to hide bad enough.

It's sad that the Government didn't realize that Apple databases already see every single thing done on iPhones.

There is a flaw in his analogy with the FBI entering your house. WHY? 1. FBI doesn't have the key to your house..you have to open the door to let them in after they show you the warrant. 2. They're basically asking that a key of your house(iphone) to be handed to them or kept in a secure location for them to take whenever they want and come open your house(iphone).

@ndoto9

8 жыл бұрын

+Phil Hassann that's a good point, but only one interpretation of the analogy. You could also say that yes the FBI doesn't have the key to your backdoor, but you do have a backdoor. And that does expose you to burglars and thieves, but you wouldn't get rid of the door because of the possibility that under special circumstances the FBI might search your house.

@philh1245

8 жыл бұрын

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@philh1245

8 жыл бұрын

ndoto9 you must be like 4?

All day long I could listen to him.... what a fantastic president we have elected in this guy... For real.... great intuition on part of America public When you can explain something it proves you understand something.

This discussion does not take into account the concept of how encryption works. Apple isn't being asked to weaken their encryption. The government wants them to change the phone's operating system so that they can try to "brute force" the 4 digit entry key. There are freely available encryption tools online that are extremely powerful. All this talk about reaching a middle ground with tech companies ignores all that. Also other countries have their own encryption standards. The US does not have a monopoly on this technology. What will the US do about that? This is why PGP was banned in the 90s. The government has been fearing the arrival of freely available and strong public encryption.

well spoken (from a canadian)