Sam Snead about these greens: "I once tried to mark my ball at oakmont, but my ball marker slid off the green" :D

@VonikGames

5 жыл бұрын

Hersper 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

I thought it was impossible to walk on a frictionless surface...

This isn't a green but an air hockey table.

A friend of mine's uncle is an Oakmont member and he told him that they actually slow the greens down for the US Open! I can't wait to play this track!

@mchaelmachine80904k

8 жыл бұрын

They triple cut them and double rolled them for Sunday. In other words, " They ain't slow dog!"

@AppleBottomJ

4 жыл бұрын

that makes no sense.. actually. Why would they slow down the green for the best golfers in the world? They must make it challenging. Unless, they put the cup in ridiculous places so they are forced to slow the greens down. So, they can actually get the ball in the hole. Edit: Oakmomt is actually one of the few golf courses that does slow the greens down. After playing there with a couple members (freshly cut) I understand why!

@michaelfosnaught2238

3 жыл бұрын

@@AppleBottomJ they slow them down because pro golfers are the biggest crybabies in the world. If they didn’t slow them down the pros would lose their shit all week and bash the course online and at every interview

@AppleBottomJ

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Fosnaught since 8 months ago I found out that USGA has regulations for each course. They don’t want them too slow, nor too fast. It’s not the golfers but the officials.

@michaelfosnaught2238

3 жыл бұрын

@@AppleBottomJ trust me. The players are the main reason those regulations exist. They will claim the course isn’t “fair” if they can’t tear it up. The second reason is the USGA knows people enjoying watching the pros make birdies

Dude that is unbelievable. No wonder the winning score was +5 in the 2007 US Open

Maybe don't hit it so hard next time Gretzky.

@huntermcmurray9326

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry I understood your joke

@andrewkirwan517

3 жыл бұрын

Just HAMMERED that putt

@jamestown4867

3 жыл бұрын

Thirsty Virus: He took it back 8 inches. A Tap is more like 2-3. That 20 footer seems like 4-5 and more break (after seeing what 8 inches did.) My gang of mid singles are always reading too little break on ultra fast (11+ for us) greens. That 5-6 foot trickle after the ball seems to come to rest just kills us. Pelz says most players (including pros) read too little break. Three times, as he says, is too much for me but on fast greens, when I see a foot of break, I take Dave’s advice and play 3 feet. Thanks to Pelz, I make a lot of money when we play those fast greens. (We normally see around 9.) BTW, I don’t believe Pelz is a naturally gifted putter/short game player. I appreciate his data but his style from his engineering background is not for me. PenguinGolf

I love watching the US Open at Oakmont because it helps pro golfers understand what normal golf feels like to us mortals.

I often putt in the tennis court for fun. But this green looks faster than tennis court

Damn skippy those greens are Fast. Reminds me of Hunter Ranch in Paso Robles, California Love that course. 👌

When I worked at the US Amateur as a marshal in 2003 I saw a young man having a 4 foot putt on #2 for a birdie. The ball was above the hole. He missed the putt and the ball rolled off the green some 30 feet away. It finally stopped on the higher fringe cut about 5 feet in front of the green. He did make a bogey, which was a great effort considering that he had to be shaken up a bit.

@ndjr

3 жыл бұрын

I live 25 minutes from Oakmont and played it a long time ago. I've heard stories like you just said and it makes no sense to me. What purpose are they trying to serve? What is redeeming about this course setup. I'll never understand it no matter how much explanation I'm subjected to.

@georgesealy4706

3 жыл бұрын

@@ndjr I can definitely understand that point of view.

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

@@ndjr So, you are willingly ignorant (im refering to the true meaning of ignorant, not the misused yinzer form). It's a shame that such an amazing opportunity was wasted on you. Your use of the term "course setup" tells me you aren't a real player and really have no idea what you are talking about. I'd love to explain to you what you are missing but you've already proclaimed that you have made a conscious commitment to your bull-headed ways.

@ndjr

2 жыл бұрын

@@dblyoi Feel better, Benny? Tell me something, how many keyboards have you destroyed from beating off to pictures of Oakmont's church pews on your computer screen? Sure am glad though that I got to hear your opinion. It's very important to me... Benny, don't judge someone you don't know....at all.... You're going to be wrong most of the time. If you had the intellect you claim to have though, you'd already know that...

Worked it in 2016. Gnarliest course I've seen played live. Almost as gnarly as BP Black.

I don’t want to go back too far, but let’s just start in the 1950’s. Here are the year’s, player’s names and winning score for each time the U.S. Open has been played at Oakmont: 1953 Ben Hogan -5 1962 Jack Nicklaus -1 1973 Johnny Miller -5 1983 Larry Nelson -4 1994 Ernie Els -5 2007 Angel Cabrera +5 2016 Dustin Johnson -4 I’d say Oakmont is a very fair and consistent test of golf and normally fits right in with a typical U.S. Open winning score which, over the years, has been in the range of E to -6 or so. Yes, there have been a few aberrations, but honestly not all that many, especially if you discount Tiger’s ridiculous score considering he was playing at a video game level at that time and Rory’s -16 number that he shot at Congressional because the course was playing very easy because they got a ton of rain and the course was super soft, however he did still win by 8 shots. I don’t know what was up in 2007. I know Oakmont is hard, but that winning score just doesn’t fit with any of the others. And the winning score the previous year at Winged Foot was also +5.

@TK-ju5hv

Жыл бұрын

Interesting read

I played Oakmont in the mid-80's and the sign outside the pro shop had them rolling at 14.5 that day. I dropped a ball from shoulder height about ten feet above one of the holes on the putting green and it rolled 15 feet past. And yes, they do slow them down for the Open.

These are the fastest greens I've ever putted on. A great golf course and I can actually see the USGA trying to slow these bad boys down for a us open. And that's saying something lol.

Welcome back after 9 years. I’ve been expecting you

@utcougar

3 жыл бұрын

Wait... how the hell did you know I would return to watch this again???!!! I’m in complete shock. I sorta didn’t believe in psychics in the past...

@mr16325

3 жыл бұрын

@@utcougar I am all powerful KZread wizard

@utcougar

3 жыл бұрын

Nk Nk oh wow. We shall all bow to thyne extra turbo super gay KZread wizardry.

Most golfers will tell you they like fast greens. The folks at Oakmont take the idea pretty seriously. I have played in one round in the past when the greens were likely a bit faster than they usually are at Oakmont. The Ocean Course at Kiawah was in perfect condition this particular day, maybe the best ever. I’m not sure what the actual speed was that day but it had to be in the 14s and possibly even faster than that. The weather changed that morning and it became very breezy. The greens were so fast it was almost impossible to keep the ball on them. If you had an uphill putt that was downwind and you missed the hole, it would usually keep rolling and roll completely off the green. That was a Pro Am back in the 90’s and I believe the low score of the day was something like +6 or 7.

It's so fast that the drainage line is low enough to make it fall away

This is where I’m playing for regionals (if I am in top 5 scores out of 35, I go to states). I was able to play a practice round and the greens were not holding (unless pinched) and they were extremely fast. I hit a bunker shot and it rolled all the way to the fairway. Hole #2 bad green!

Oh my goodness!! My putting would not cut it on those greens.

Ten years later.

If you have played the oaks in Utah they are the exact same just with giant hills. Go play there.

This putt is very downhill but putts like this do exist in some places on the course. Depending on the pin you have to know where to be but even more importantly where NOT to be with your approach. Put you approach above the hole and in some cases you will either make the putt or have a 20-30 footer coming back. I've even seen people putt the ball 20 yards down the fairway!

@Tomkat53

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, but that is NOT a "fair" test of golf.

Thats crazy

W I N D

Sounded windy. Was there a strong tailwind pushing it?

This will be the first course that invents golf caddi hover boards.

Is this a scene from caddy shack ?

Well that looks really fucking fun

I live right by this golf course never played on it though because a membership to the country club is $50,000 a year

@BaBaBooeyWRLD

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s all 🤦🏻‍♂️

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

You also have to be invited to join. But you don't have to be a member to play. You can play as a members guest. But.. umm... just.. nvm.

Lost a tournament cause I couldn’t get these greens dialed in

wind?

Geez, that's Cruel and Unusual!

Sounds windy.

You should of seen the 7th at sinnacochk it was so fast that you couldn’t even putt it he barely hit it and rolled into the deep rough

You want to putt this one AWAY from the hole. Seriously.

the earth 🌎 is round

Take that 2 putt and smile there bro

if the greens are fast, then you need to adjust your approach shots. I'd play them short all day, so I wouldn't have to put downhill. That doesn't mean it's a done deal, it'll be just to avoid triples and quads.

Zippy

Is it possible to play there if your not a member? Im very interested in playing there!

@derekchavez5745

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah but you have to be invited by a member. So basically you have to know someone who is famous or rich😂

@joshcolbert5613

5 жыл бұрын

0% chance unless you no a millionaire thats a member

@Chris-0703

5 жыл бұрын

Are you really that ignorant about how golf clubs operate? Stick to your local par-3 course.

@liamcameron4477

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck you

@devinmoss3365

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamcameron4477 dude, seriously?

This has to be downhill no?

Have you heard of slope

Tbf he hit it too hard

You’re supposed to hit the ball into the hole.

it is called downhill

Lucky SOB to play Oakmont. Jealous.

Isn’t some of this the wind ?

There has to be a slope, a ball on flat polished concrete would not roll that far. Just a bad putt xD!

"It stopped at the hole"? I don't think this guy knows what the word "stop" means.

They might be fast but if you land your ball down flag it would be easier putting against the camber but that's why we love golf 17 holes of pure dog shit 18th hole 200 drive 80ft wedge within 6 inches of the hole BANG Birdie thanks for playing lads see you next week 😝

Pinehurst is pretty fast

Stimpmeters measure on flat surfaces, not downhills. Even if these roll at 14 or whatever, how can it be sustainable without killing the green?

@fe247

2 жыл бұрын

Much moooney does the trick buddybuddy

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

I use to wonder how they didn't burn the greens to get them so fast. But, if you saw the them up close you will instantly see that this grass is VERY different than any other course. There truly is no grain. You'll never see any form of substrate (soil) when fixing a ball mark because its just decades of healthy heavily compacted grass that grows on top of itself and deep below the putting surface. Its almost like that old flaky old form fit packaging foam (for lack of term/explanation). Difficult to describe. They have to be the truest greens on the planet.

so, this would be a practice green... not strictly relevant to the actual golf course. This could be faster, and most likely is. What's the stimp?

@Chris-0703

5 жыл бұрын

That makes zero sense. Must play municipal courses a lot?

@joshcolbert5613

5 жыл бұрын

14-15 most days

@Whoopdido777

4 жыл бұрын

A “real” golf course will keep their practice green at the same speed as the greens on the rest of the course. Like you say, a muni course might not put the same amount of effort into keeping the practice green and the regular greens the same. I GUARANTEE that Oakmont, widely considered to be one of the best courses in the world, keeps their practice green the same. What we’re seeing here could very well be a downhill putt and also wind aided. I had a medical problem a few years ago and can’t really play anymore, but when I was at my best, I got down to a 1 or 2 handicap and I played courses all the time where if I hit my ball in the wrong spot (above the hole) I could easily put a 20 footer 10-12 feet past the hole and I was putting on greens that were probably about a 10 on the stimp meter vs Oakmont’s 14 or 15.

The average golfer couldn’t break 150 if he played 6400 yard tees.

@platinumpineapple9943

3 жыл бұрын

OHRaceFan thats long usually we play 5800-6000

its the slope not the speed

Im a superintendent and clearly they have the greens way to fast to the point that its unfair and literally impossible just to lag a putt or the holes are cut in position on green that trumps the total degree allowed when cutting holes. Pisses me off to see supers do this shit on purpose fooling the public into thinking pros play on greens like that.

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

superintendent where? Anxiously waiting.

How can you claim the fastest greens in the world with no Stimp?

@joshcolbert5613

5 жыл бұрын

lmao they are the fastest greens in the world trust me

@joshcolbert5613

5 жыл бұрын

@e james LOL no even closeeeeeeeee they slow the greens down for the last major its quicker for members check the scores at the 2007 US Open +5 won

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

The stimp is inherently flawed as an exact measurement.. its a very good guide but true speed can never be official. AND THE STIMP WAS INVENTED AT OAKMONT BECAUSE ITS OAKMONT... THE HARDEST COURSE WITH THE FASTEST GREENS. youve never watched golf have you?

@cliftonmanley3882

2 жыл бұрын

@@dblyoi I don't watch Yank golf... it's controlled Rupert Murdoch the M@r@n... I got over it years ago... boring as F... you can stick your target golf where the sun don't shine... I don't, particularly enjoy playing Target Golf, as you Yanks seem to like, and I certainly don't waste my time watching it... When I watch golf, it's nearly always live online, and NEVER Murdoch golf. I guarantee I watch more golf than you...

@cliftonmanley3882

2 жыл бұрын

@@dblyoi and who said it was "exact"? It's all we have... so until you invent a more accurate way, the Stimp is the way.

that's not because the greens are fast -- it is because it was downhill...a ball that nearly stops, re-starts and picks up speed is going downhill...I've played Oakmont and, yes, the greens are fast, but what you showed was a putt that reached a downhill point

@dblyoi

2 жыл бұрын

ok but that only happens on very fast greens.

@norrispg4212

2 жыл бұрын

@@dblyoi gravity doesn't only exist on fast greens...a green with an area on it of 7% of slope that stimps at 8 will still roll downhill...it is why we don't position cups with more than 1% within a 3 foot circumference of it

Thats no grass! _Its smooth concrete_

That's a joke.....unplayable!

Jy is a poes

I know a faster green in Antarctica

horrible, that takes all the fun out of golf.

That's the worst

My local muni has faster greens lol

Horrible putt!

Those greens are not good at all. They resemble putting on glass which is not the hallmark of good maintenance

@jlash259

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Oakmont. I’m pretty sure they know how to maintain greens.