This is honestly very humiliating. They're treating us like children, having us chase an ice cream truck. "hey go here if you wanna work. It's busy here.... AHH! It ain't busy anymore. We're kicking you out. Now go over there ... AHH! Sorry, I know you drove all those blocks to this area but it's not busy anymore" WTF!! we have car notes, insurance, bills that are due!!

@AutoMarketplace

28 күн бұрын

All fair points 👍 Do you view this as more TLC’s fault or Uber / Lyft’s?

@droozilla8803

26 күн бұрын

@@AutoMarketplace the City.

@AutoMarketplace

26 күн бұрын

@@droozilla8803 agree with your take. Believe the TLC / City is more responsible than Uber / Lyft in this instance.

@sheneidergilles7828

14 күн бұрын

Brother man you right the system as awhole always want us to be like children that's why they want to control everything

@Leopardo-1111

7 сағат бұрын

@@AutoMarketplaceall this came after they approved benefits

They are literally locking drivers out for hours at a time it's impossible to make a living like this.

@AutoMarketplace

26 күн бұрын

Hopefully the rules change soon or it likely be more of the same (might even get worse in August).

It doesn’t help. When you go to a busier area you still cant go on

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Yes, that can still happen. In reality it’s impossible to truly know the mechanics without knowing how the algorithm is working

It would be good to get rid of this stupid utilization rate. It’s such a pain in the ass and it interferes with fair competition in the marketplace. Besides if Uber and Lyft can limit ability to go online - the utilization rate becomes meaningless, because it doesn’t take into account the actual time the driver is working, but only the time the driver is officially online - which defies the purpose of the utilization rate rule.

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Very well put!

Capping the license plates is the only viable option. But this industry is super saturated a long time ago, why would TLC offer EV plates? Because they are taking money under the table!

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Lot of people still feel that way - automarketplace.substack.com/p/revel-might-need-a-nyc-high-volume

Increasing the Driver licensing fees. Is ridiculous… TLC has loss their function a long time ago. They act as a “cash cow “ for the City!

So if i go on vacation for a couple weeks i may be on a wait list to log back in when i get back?

@AutoMarketplace

21 күн бұрын

Don’t think a couple of weeks will put you on the waitlist, but if you’re inactive for more than a month maybe that has an impact. Just a best guess 👍

They should cap. Have a waitlist. As a tlc driver retires, you hire a new one. Or do a 1-5% increase every year.

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

That’s an interesting idea! 👍

How long is waitlist time for new drivers?

@AutoMarketplace

26 күн бұрын

Right now, from our understanding, it’s 6+ months for both Uber and Lyft NYC. That can change if TLC rules change though.

Think about creating a Drivers' Own Platform(DOP) and say goodbye to the ridesharing monopolists

@AutoMarketplace

24 күн бұрын

Yes, agree this is an idea we’ve spoken about and we think this is the next iteration of “rideshare”. Some sort of token / Web3 blockchain platform will likely enable this where both drivers *and* passengers own the majority of the network. Many people forget the passenger owning a part of the network is also very important. This is something we’re tracking and might even pursue 👍

You are so fluid in explaining this Uber labyrinth nobody will understand. Pl be specific & short. Thanks

@AutoMarketplace

24 күн бұрын

Agree this was a long video and we always try to aim to be short and concise. Hopefully the table of contents helped people listening skip around. Ultimately this is a very complex and consequential topic so really wanted to fully explain it. Lot of misinformation and disinformation out there. However, always good to get feedback and we’ll try better to be more concise 👍

It is a game played by Ride share. If I am out there in the street for 10 hrs and allowed to go online for five hrs only? Does five hours represent total hours that a driver wait to get a job. I dont get it. Change the rule.

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Only time that counts is when you’re logged into the app ✅. Lockouts is a way for Uber to increase how busy a driver is when they are allowed to be logged in. We think TLC should get rid of UR and enforce TLC vehicle / driver license supply limits

Why those apps pay car maintenece. Insurance and car

This is what happens when you get gov help it always gets worse should have just left thing alone and just let the free marlet work.

I knew this would happen.

Will this mean that those on the wait list for nyc will be waiting longer ?

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

If rules are not changed, yes unfortunately. Not a hard and fast rule, but generally yes. Some people might claim they can game the waitlist via EV, WAV or UberBlack but we’re not seeing that anymore

Unbelievably good job. Even if instinctually it’s been all evident, still unbelievable their games behind the scenes and fooling everyone….doom loop…love it…it’s exactly what I explained recently few days ago to the head of the NYTWA in their set zoom meeting gathering…hopefully TLC doesn’t get scammed braking the UR responsibilities and create a monopoly Uber dreams for.

@sabinmari17

Ай бұрын

Doom loop…love it

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

🙏, also think Lyft should be more vocal about what's going and keeping NYC drivers informed of how they are thinking about this

@sabinmari17

Ай бұрын

That would be a great idea. Especially for Uber deactivated drivers as myself with them taking more market share.

Can someone please work on an app that works with Uber and Lyft apps, where the app automatically takes us offline one app once pinged from the alternative app. (Was that clear?)

@Guirero

Ай бұрын

I thought about this in 2016 but I’m not tech savvy to make it work. 🤷‍♂️

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

It’s a good idea. Is that so you don’t have to cancel a request from the other app? Note, NYC operates on industrywide utilization for Uber and Lyft, so in terms of that metric it’s actually not necessary. However, acceptance rate / cancellation rate still relevant to have that functionality. Hopefully, someone will see your comment and start working on it !

The gay medallions cabies complained so much that they ruined the entire industry… and all for nothing for this bill shhhh

Why don't get those kiss out the cyti

Why tlc can make own app

Yup, Uber (the employer) is going to control their labor (drivers wanting to be employees). Get ready, consequences of what you wish for.

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Definitely a valid way to look at it. Many people don’t fully game policy out.

@alftnsca93

19 күн бұрын

O do believe the uber ceo... Always want smart cars..so empty soul..wants business for his packet.

@alftnsca93

19 күн бұрын

After that I feell so piss y Off..thoht old days are gonne

I do not undestard

What about go free..and 14:33 tlc don give a ticket

Is so simple

They got pay hour

If can no go in line

I’m nyc Uber only driver since 7-8 years.I can work only nights about 6 hours per shift 5 days per week. It’s frustrating to be taken off the app during the my limited time. This utilizeshun mambo jumbo most go,since this is a great instrument for Uber force us to position the drivers wher they want us to be. Uber and lift should be forced to cap there driver onboarding . New drivers should be on waitlist till the threshold demands is…simple!!!

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Agree re utilization rate (UR) 👍 TLC is at fault for not regulating for-hire vehicle supply better (as you know, just allowed the addition of 10k+ FHVs) and driver licensing (over 180,000+ TLC licensed drivers now). If they regulate supply better at the licensing level, Uber / Lyft will be less able to abuse the system (lockouts)

Is simple

Ok what I gonna say. You tlc gonna pay my minimum wage

You tell me we gonna back to slave times

As a government you abut to.do

So you tell me icon Sue uber

But the driver get cero

What gonna tell you as a word one cent Not you blablaa You pay tlcl fees

Get uberfrom back and kick out of nyc..like madrid

Tell what need to bee slave of tlc and uber

You gata to bee tkc

You tlc or uber pay me

Bhri

we moved to upstate 4 months ago life kinder better as trucker Uber and Lyft driver I can easily switch job as an independent 🥹 make little money and got time for family ☺️I got Tlc 3yr ago I regret it ,wasting time and money … we love NY✌️

@AutoMarketplace

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing and glad things are going well! Agree, TLC isn’t going to be for everyone, it’s a tough job in many ways. Glad you were able to change paths. Do you do long haul trucking?

Why tlc can make own app