What do you think of this approach to internet access?

@liggerstuxin1

2 жыл бұрын

I say 👍

@chungefoose7323

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's great.

@cesarloredo9089

2 жыл бұрын

How do i contact um?

@gajananddave3385

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is awesome.

@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu

2 жыл бұрын

You need Jio , we get 50GB internet for 3$,that's how cheap it is for Indian

An absolute unit of an idea. Nothing but the best wishes for their organization!

@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu

2 жыл бұрын

You need Jio , we get 50GB internet for 3$,that's how cheap it is for Indians

@xiaoshen194

2 жыл бұрын

@@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu Bhai that's because, literally everything would be cheap in India if U were to compare it to the US. Cheapest internet, by purchasing-power parity, is in Israel 👍. Moreover Ambani doesn't have much profit motive, he keeps the profit minimal, just enough to survive. Otherwise his main income is also from oil and petroleum industry 😂😂. US is different case

@Phantom-ys5ur

2 жыл бұрын

@@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu For what to run more call centers?? stop spamming. Also pray those prices dont go up. jio and airtel are like uber, once they have the monopoly those prices will skyrocket. Everything have a price brother.

@xiaoshen194

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phantom-ys5ur Bhai tu Indian hi h na?

@HaloWolf102

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to know more about this group, they have a KZread channel called. NYC Mesh kzread.info/dron/3FH_8A4SDtJbo5UWMhBteA.html

Next week: Big tech ISPs sue nonprofit meshes and lobby congress to push thru a bill that makes nonprofit meshes illegal.

@kas2388

2 жыл бұрын

facts bro

@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu

2 жыл бұрын

You need Jio , we get 50GB internet for 3$,that's how cheap it is for Indians

@souravtambe5743

2 жыл бұрын

Wifi is also cheap here I have 3.3TB at 60Mbps for less than $10 per month

@dev_among_men

2 жыл бұрын

And studies that the meshes are killing people, corporate money "buying freedom since 1776"

@frost6296

2 жыл бұрын

@@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu It's pretty trash that you have a data cap, I have unlimited although it ain't as cheap. $70 200mbs unlimited

Screw giant corporations! I wish we had that in Germany as well, here the internet is also pretty bad and expensive, thanks to low competition caused by few providers.

@melbourneknuffeler

2 жыл бұрын

make it happen

@TheFloatingSheep

2 жыл бұрын

The government sells its powers to the highest bidder. Which leads to more and more regulations which make it impossible for new companies to provide competition. Capitalism is great, it works amazingly, with competition driving down costs, improving the quality of services, but government gets involved and ruins everything. Government is evil born by good intentions. In Romania we had the freedom to do just about anything after we executed our dictator and brought back capitalism, and it lead to us having the highest internet speeds in europe and the lowest prices. You can get 1Gbps speeds for about 7 euros a month. Even in the country side you get around 300Mbps. I'm saying this because people get angry at the low internet speeds, or bad and expensive healthcare in countries without socialized healthcare and so on and so forth but they go out there and demand more government interference, when that's truly what's caused the problem to begin with.

@nywe

2 жыл бұрын

In Deutschland gibt es "freifunk" in vielen Städten, das ist so ähnlich. Aber ihr WLAN Mesh-Network hat eher den Fokus auf Freiheit und Anti-Zensur, statt auf günstigerem Zugang in abgehängten Gebieten.

@ApacheFPV

2 жыл бұрын

You understand that they are still getting their internet from these giant corporations all the same, all they're doing is turning it into a signal and sending it somewhere it isn't available.

@Ninjaeule97

2 жыл бұрын

@@ApacheFPV Great, just send me the high-speed Romanian internet, I'd be happy with that. On a more serious note: Are American (and Spanish) ISP's such Bastards that they carve up their territory so that nobody has a choice and is forced to pay whatever they charge them? That's fucked up. As much as Telekom sucks at least they got enough decency to not exploit people living in the countryside by charging ridiculous prices because they have no alternative.

These projects should be backed generously by govt/community and supported by all ! Truly amazing!

@freethink

2 жыл бұрын

It's really cool to see the local government helping integrate it into their plans!

Really love the work NYCMesh is doing. Every single person living in NYC should be signing up for service! Show the big cable companies we don't need them anymore!

@abittwisted

2 жыл бұрын

But you do. I think there is a different way but you will be starting from the ground up and it won't be free.

@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu

2 жыл бұрын

You need Jio , we get 50GB internet for 3$,that's how cheap it is for Indians

@BhanuPrakash-hk5iu

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.knowitall5019 nope , there ideavod ,bsnl , airtel ,jio ,so four in total

@AIRRAZOR44

2 жыл бұрын

Not enough bandwidth for 4K streaming, uploading large files, gaming, dowloading large files. If the tech evolves then maybe

@fairinternet

2 жыл бұрын

@@AIRRAZOR44 believe it or not, we've seen speed tests of 100mbps or higher. The backbone comes from dedicated Fiber links at their supernodes. Something that cable can't match is the near symmetrical upload speeds. A recent speed test showed 100D/75U. More than sufficient for gaming and video streaming. And you feel better not giving money to a big corporation! The performance will continually improve as more nodes come online, adding redundancy and reducing oversubscription of the larger hubs.

Man, nothing excites me most than people coming together to solve a community problem. Shout-out to Freethink for giving voice to these guys, you got a new subscriber!

Just to put it in a perspective: 40usd per month gives you 100-250mb/s broadband in almost any scandinavian city/town/remote village. Or it's just included in the rent. The fact that in NYC you need a non profit and volunteers to do that is mind boggling...

@veneering4128

2 жыл бұрын

In Romania I pay 10 dollars for fiber to the home unlimited data 1GBps with DIGI

@ko-Daegu

2 жыл бұрын

here it's 15$ speed is : ping 16 m/s Download ~ 500 mbps upload 22

@-SP.

2 жыл бұрын

@@veneering4128 I pay $70 a month to Xfinity for the same speeds and I have 1.2tb monthly cap I always go over

We need to help move this forward.

@freethink

2 жыл бұрын

Check out nycmesh.net for information on how to help! www.nycmesh.net/

These guys are making the world a better place, glad you are here!

@qjtvaddict

2 жыл бұрын

For one issue

AMAZING story! This gives me hope in mankind again. After living in NYC for 18yrs I applaud & appreciate Humans being human . In the end, kindness & love 💕 always wins ! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I hope this becomes global... In the Philippines, our internet is freaking slow (1-8Mbps) yet very expensive... The internet monopoly here is just mind-blowing..... So to the founders of NYC mesh please introduce your product to other countries... Thank you!!!

@markhaus

2 жыл бұрын

Help set one up if you can, NYCMesh started with a group of volunteers. You could potentially help start the same thing where you live.

@chrisbulan

2 жыл бұрын

it's 2022 and internet in Philippines still sucks

@William0271

Жыл бұрын

Cuba's gamers have had one of these for years. Don't recall which city

“If your card gets canceled, we won’t cut you off… We’ll never cut you off..” 🥰🥰🥰😭😭😭😭😭😭🥰🥰🥰 I’m not crying, somebody else is crying!

@dislike__button

2 жыл бұрын

Until enough people start leeching and they cut everybody off.

@jakegarrett8109

2 жыл бұрын

@@dislike__button Nah, there's people like me that would be happy to invest stupid amounts into hardware, and that's probably a large part of the costs. There's also a ton of other HAM people that would get involved just out of boredom so you'd also see everyone from young tech enthusiasts like myself (who are used to seeing speeds like 1 Mbps and happy to invest in things to push 1 Gbps and beyond), to retired HAM techs that just want an excuse to get out of the house.

This isn't really a "mesh" network is it? It's a traditional hub and spoke network. I thought to be a mesh, then all nodes connect to closest nodes to create links and clever software is always running to figure out optimal routes as nodes go up and down or possibly move around. In a true mesh network, scaling is less of an issue but the number of hops and latency go up significantly.

@windowsxseven

2 жыл бұрын

please go back to reddit

@vasopel

2 жыл бұрын

@@windowsxseven leave him alone, we need more people that know what they are talking about here and not at reddit.

@windowsxseven

2 жыл бұрын

@@vasopel cope // seethe // mald

@NFSCalex

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, not a true "mesh" network but the idea of having a directional antenna pointing to a node with a secondary omnidirectional repeater for others to connect to is quite impressive. The main node is very crucial however, if it goes down, the entire system goes down. Very much against the principle of a "mesh" network.

@wackyroo

2 жыл бұрын

yeah this approach does leave it vulnerable to hostile takeover. How else would you connect to the internet if not through a supernode? If one supernode goes down just point the dish at another supernode. More supernodes would be needed to ensure redundancy for more people.

Directly to the members of this non-profit organization. You not only inspire me, to inspire others to try and solve problems inside communities. Not only are you helping people, you are making a great message by basically saying "We are helping people, you should too". Thank you!

That's brilliant! Makes me wanna look more into the Spain community driven internet service.

@freethink

2 жыл бұрын

You can find them at guifi.net/!

@qjtvaddict

2 жыл бұрын

Fon?

Wait whaaaaaaat????!!! This is amazing! Maybe when I visit New York I will volunteer! Then bring this to other states!!!

@freethink

2 жыл бұрын

That'd be awesome! You can find out more at nycmesh.net!

@imperpekto12ify

2 жыл бұрын

@@freethink Thank you for sharing!!!

Government allocates municipal monopolies to operate geographically at the exclusions of competitors. Monopolies do what monopolies do, and milk the demand because there is an artificially limited supply. Government complains about profit and monopoly. Makes perfect sense. /s

@_.Leo_.

2 жыл бұрын

@@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 You're missing half your brain if you think a government mandated monopoly is Capitalism and not Socialistic. Capitalism is what happened in Romania after socialism evaporated and deregulation allowed for competition. Although impoverished, Romania was a top three country in bandwidth and internet choice.

@dave_riots

2 жыл бұрын

@@_.Leo_. It actually is because of Capitalism, lol. In most western countries, the US specifically, bribe-givers (known as lobbyists in the US) incentivize monopolies in its own market (Amazon, Disney, Coca Cola, etc) by not breaking them up, or bailing them out when they start to see a significant loss of profits. They further incentivize companies that establish monopolies overseas through the use of economic sanctions, military interventions, and internal sabotage among other crimes (United Fruit Company in El Salvador and the Military Industrial Complex's stranglehold on the world for example).

@_.Leo_.

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave_riots So your understanding of capitalism is Stamokap, as articulated by Lenin? Lol. Glad to see the American education system in action. Imagine thinking that government-sponsored and backed monopolies is Capitalism while simultaneously thinking that socialism, where government officials are the board of directors of monopolies since they own the means of production, is somehow more positive? 🤔

@dave_riots

2 жыл бұрын

@@_.Leo_. It's ironic when we talk about the faults of one's education system, when the very next words are not even the core functions of what we claim to be describing. Do realize that Socialism is work and all other entities being collectively owned by the workers and the public - NOT the state. Corporatocracy and Socialism are two entirely different things. What you claim to be Socialism is just another part of Capitalism. The United States Postal Service (USPS) for example is a state monopolized entity, since it is one of the two primary public mail carriers in the United States, the other being the United Parcel Service (UPS). These two entities are responsible for the most packages delivered in the United States, more than every other privately owned mail carrier service in the United States, combined.

@_.Leo_.

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave_riots Okay bruh. State ownership is Capitalism? Lol.

Community Service Is Very Essential For The People. And We Really Need Dedicated People For The Service. These Beautiful Minded People are genius 👍

20$ for around a 50Mbps connection that will have reliability issues in bad weather, as it's based on a wireless infrastructure, feels like a bad deal.

@w1z4rd9

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is you don't need to pay monthly.

@la7dfa

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know it will not perform in bad weather? I do not see it changing much. Starlink works in snow and rain, so wh should not this local net do?

@richterman3962

2 жыл бұрын

Cheaper and better speeds with all the crap

40 years ago I thought the same thing about phone service, that everyone should have it regardless of ability to pay for it. Much of the poor could not afford to have a single phone in their house. I think this wireless service being set up in New York is fantastic and should be expanded everywhere. Too bad we can't do the same sort of thing with water service.

@AMCUSOLDIER

2 жыл бұрын

Why not we can do it for everyone? Everything free! Let's go to Cuba or Venezuela! Somebody is paying for it! And the ultimate price will be your freedom which you dont care but I care about my children future living in a Socialist dictatorship!

@philoslother4602

2 жыл бұрын

@@AMCUSOLDIER he was talking about Water, water needs to be FREE

We need to make more of these types of decisions possible in all types of sectors. Too much reliance on large corps, even if they do good work.

This is an amazing, practical and frankly beautiful idea. The corporate monopolies are only interested in profit and engage in more 'financial engineering' than real engineering or fulfilling the needs of ordinary people. Support this as best you can folks. It's a great thing.

I wonder how this will compare with Starlink, which should be available everyone pretty soon. Hopefully this can just drive down prices even further. Rolling out cheap internet widely is one of the most important opportunities. Everyone needs reliable and fast internet access.

@wanderingthewastes6159

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't starlink hot garbage/vaporware?

@alexfrank5331

2 жыл бұрын

Starlink is $99/mo for average speed. It's a theoretical project that never should've left the ground with our non-existence extraplanetary infrastructure. Even at $99/mo they will struggle to become profitable, and probably abandon the project before they recoup the investments. Especially now that 5G is rolled out... and Starlink was only borderline viable when compared to the stupidly low range of 5G.

@Ninjaeule97

2 жыл бұрын

Starlink is pretty expensive and can only connect to a low amount of people. It won't bring down costs, only provide fast internet to people that can afford the high price and make earth-based astrometry more difficult. I hope that the engineers make sure that these satellites won't collide with other ones, because if they do they could cause a Kesler syndrome preventing us to go to space for a long time.

@Ninjaeule97

2 жыл бұрын

@@shashi_ it won't. Launching 42 000 satellites every 5 years would cost 4 billion$/year with each satellite being able to service around 1 000 people. So with 2/3 of the satellites over the ocean at any given time that gives you 14 Million potential customers. Assuming you can get that many customers you would need to charge around 300$/year just to break even. And that's only in the ideal case where everyone around the world can afford Starlink and the customers are spread out evenly across the globe. A more realistic amount of customers would lead to a 900$/year price just to break even, which is pretty close to the current price of around 1200$/year.

@MartinMenge

2 жыл бұрын

I get the impression that they will only be available in underserved areas (rural). If they don't SpaceX will be cannibalising on sales of satellite launches or getting themselves into regulatory issues in countries where telecom monopolies have great influence on regulators. They can basically only go where big players don't want to go. Knowing Elon's ability to get funding from states (nation-states) this might be their aim, subsidised connections and highly specialised connections (e.g. ships). On price, it isn't that bad, in vast parts of the world you are getting 2, 5 or 10mbps at prices around half of what Starlink is offering. So proportionally it isn't that bad.

CONGRATULATIONS so atmire the generosity of others. Bless your souls.😘

Great job yall! This is such an important effort

Fantastic human beings. ✌🏽🤙🏽👍🏽🇦🇺👌🏽🤟🏽

Wow!👍We need more like them!♥️

I have heard of a similar set up in Oregon, it's been a few years but I'm glad it's growing. I felt that we would move in this internet direction. This networking can also help add stability on a wider range

Amazing initiative!! Kudos to all the members and volunteers 👍

Great wrk guys thank you

Absolutely beautiful! ❤️

I feel inspired . Beautifull people still exist . Respect

I can’t believe size and wealth of country, the internet is so expensive and costly, absolutely disgraceful.

Man, I am having GOOSEBUMPS ALL Over my body . God bless you brothers you deserve the best. Love and support from India.

I love this channel. I'm currently studying to become an anthropologist, and my primary interest is how we can get involved as people to build the world of tomorrow. This channel is very inspiring and I always appreciate your content. I guess what I'm saying is thanks.

we had several organizations like that here in Egypt but the gov fought them harshly by sizing their hardware and fining them so that the only ISP can thrive and continue its monopoly and market domination

This is fantastic! Sometimes it takes a community. Bravo!

They should study how Romania did it. We built organic neighborhood networks and united them to have the best internet in Europe

@michaelraimi1377

2 жыл бұрын

What is the name of the company behind it? Want to learn more about them

@jaxd7206

2 жыл бұрын

Could you please share with us links or more info on this? ☺️

@Gilotopia

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaxd7206 sorry but my comments are deleted once I post any links or titles to sources. There's no way to put this info in a youtube comment it seems.

@jaxd7206

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gilotopia oof that's really awful 😞 Thank you for taking the time to cite the sources. I'll be sure to look up how it was done in Romania when possible.🌷

@freethink

2 жыл бұрын

There's some interesting info on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Romania

I'm impressed with the volunteers - they are what make this happen. I'm surprised the equipment isn't getting stolen though at it is NYC.

This is amazing. These people are heroes. Very inspiring video

Especially if it can match the speeds of the big names wifi, or even do better, then hell to the yeah guys!

My children and I never went online until 2018 me on my phone I shared with my partner.and the kids really missed out on the benefits you have with every book at your fingertips with a crowd of others to collaborate .I am still spellbound .I use it to learn.I spoke with my family for the first time in ten or more years .I now feel like everyone knows more than me .But watch out !I will get there.

I hope this catches on in many cities big and small all over the US. Power to the people! This is way cool. Thanks.

They are just doing their best Great work man I appreciate

How can I bring this to my community?

I got goosebumps! The spirit, the mobilization, the community - amazing!

I I knew this should happen but I'm not equipped to always convey my ideas and of course life gets in the way,I feel very impressed by the idea that you knew how to implement the dish idea get them built etc,Scratching my head on that one!But a child or adult without access is at a disadvantage. I still haven't sent an email so I should know! I moved to England when they only had one phone company!!!!Please continue your work it might be the difference between life and death in future lives ,Knowledge is power👍 R

Awesome!!!! Los Angeles needs this!!!!

Videos like this make me feel glad I'm in India and not in the USA. I get 3TB bandwidth with 40mbps speed for 8$/month here.

@jaimepuig2258

2 жыл бұрын

Which Indian city do you live in? What's it like in the countryside?

@Name-mi7bx

2 жыл бұрын

What !!!

@sujithkumar824

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaimepuig2258 I live in Chennai, but the data cost is about the same all across India, countryside you might not get a fiber connection but decent mobile data is available everywhere, you can get 20-30mbps speed, 2.5GB/day data cap for 28days for 4.65$/month, with unlimited free calls and amazon prime membership for 28days.

Love this channel

This is not a solution… it‘s a workaround. Regulation is needed to make the ISPs provide proper service. New York is so densely populated that it‘s unbelievable that it shouldn’t be possible to provide proper internet service at a decent price. 🤷‍♂️

How good to see Great awesome social guys n gals out there.

This is sooooo awesome!!!!

Excellent idea fanning solution outside of the problem .

This is future. I see so many potential possibilities out of it. Imagine a parallel internet just build out of this mesh with all access to everything we dream to have on internet.

NICE ! 👍👍👍👍

This kind of thing needs to happen everywhere. We shouldn't have to rely on providers who charge us for access to something that is owned by the entire population and was meant for everyone. I live on an island in Washington State where this would be extremely helpful to everyone here. It would lower the cost of everything for everyone, and thus the economy would boom.

Awesome!

Amazing! ♡

First mr beast is changing the world and now you guys!!! Its amazing! Seriously, people are taking back control and its beautiful. Its so simple yet the government can't even do the basic stuff. Forget government and big businesses that overlook people! Wish I could be there in NYC to help

This is example of " UNITY IS STRENGTH" , hats off to every volunteer giving their best to make other people's life better.

Great job guys , I live in South Africa and we are facing the same problem if not worse because we have one of the highest data prices in the world. I wish there could be such initiative here I would gladly volunteer

Great initiative

Now this is the kind of future I'm excited about. Really cool!

Yesss, I've been hoping to do same thing here in my home country (GH) .

God bless you!

This is amazing. Also the kinda community organization the big guys try to stop. Best of luck to them. I’m down to donate and I don’t even live there. !!! No more companies only communities !!!

Respect !

I really do love the mesh idea. I’d have to do more research on it, but it definitely makes sense when you’re looking at a decentralized network.

It is called a WISP, not a mesh. I own and run a WISP business. It is called AP's not nodes. Then each client has a CPE to get the internet. They are installing Ubiquiti equipment. Same as what we use in our systems.

I live in Rio de Janeiro, one of the largest cities in Brazil. The other day i went to the countryside to visit my grandparents and getting there I was astonished to discover that a city 30x smaller than mine offered far superior internet while being cheaper. After that, I went on searching the reasons for this nonsense and found that, besides some other variables, it basically came down to competition and monopolies. I remain dreaming of a day we will become more worried about being fair and putting our communities` interests above individual ambitions.

This is awesome. I built a free wireless network around rural Lake Wyola in Shutesbury, MA in the late 90's. There was only crappy dialup at the time. Got a T-1 at the closest, highest house I could and beamed it 1.5 miles to the far side of the lake, then distributed it to homes around the lake. We covered a few hundred houses in wifi - all with donations and volunteer effort. Currently my town, Northampton, MA is about to build a municipal fiber network allowing providers to compete for our business while we own the last mile. It's the ultimate solution - I proposed fiber-to-the-neighborhood along with wifi to bridge the last few hundred feet but was won over by having a separate fiber to each residence - once done it is future-proof.

Let's go NYC!!

I wish this team all the best. This is a very good thing they are doing and I hope it catches on.

I'll be going to NY on July. It'd be awesome if I could see this up close. I work for a WISP and this concept looks great. Ham radio operators also use a similar setup with modified equipment of the same brand. But their network is on the private side because of licensing issues. Although you can tunnel in from anywhere in the world to one of the meshes if they're setup for it.

Come to Honduras. We pay $80 for just 10MB. It is incredible what you are doing. Wish you the best!!!

brilliant.. inspiring..

awesome!

I love it! This type of stuff should be in everyone’s home but you should buy it (like a tv).

Saw this coverage on a different channel, great great concept!!!!! Make change against billionaire corporations that do little to nothing.

In Rome you pay not in base of your zone! It's like discrimination 😳

That was done in Romania long long time ago and brought down the cost from 45+ USD to as little as 5

awesome job

Love it!! Just curious to ruin through a few security scenarios. Either way, I really hope we can do something like this in Bangladesh.

Beautiful keep on keeping on

How do they strike deals with T2 and T1 backbone networks? 🤔

@MartinMenge

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect they use end-user access points without regard of the terms of service. Perhaps they have a way to get around it by swopping out the primary connection enough so that ISPs basically will need to play wack-a-mole. I can see this being workable in a high density area like NYC but when your primary access points are limited the ISPs will catch-on quick and throttle, shape or suspend service.

Brilliant 😄 Problem solving 😄😄😂

Awesome idea.

love it

great way too beat big companies. keep up the good work.

Good for those guys, following a passion that makes a difference. Now on to a cheap self hosting website option.

What a sharp person!

This is a fantastic effort.

resourceful

I've seen this before but it was a Ghanaian gentleman who was doing it but it had all wires extending across the whole village same idea same effect

YES!

Great projects 🤝🤝🤝

Excellent! Decentralized & user owned. But won't server/data storage hubs be necessary in the end?

@rgbii2

2 жыл бұрын

This just moves traffic, so no need for data storage.

I wish we could do this in Miami, FL!