What do you think of vertical farming?

@cob571

3 жыл бұрын

I want it NOW! This doesn't even have a downside, because with the amount of room we will save, anyone who desires to farm outside for philosophical reasons can continue to do so, at scales not currently possible!

@katrina3560

3 жыл бұрын

I think it could be workable, but I believe true permacultured, food forests should be strived for as well.

@cadea7578

3 жыл бұрын

Is there any calculations available for the carbon emissions saved through local growing instead of freezing and shipping these crops? I imagine the environmental impact on the reduction of shipping could be as substantial as the land saved

@skywalktriceiam

3 жыл бұрын

@@cob571 Philosophical reasons? At first, I thought "yay!" I envisioned good, clean, heritage/heirloom seeds that are fertile, no chemical- based fertilizers & pesticides, companion-planting, organic, permaculture kinda sunshiny thing. 🦄- My philosophy, and perhaps yours, I don't know. BUT then, a certain someone came to mind. He recently bought a shitload of farmland. He has an obsession with golden rice, of all things; actually, he is rumored to have quite a few obsessions. Personally, from what I know of him, I share his philosophies like I share his tax bracket. Oh wait! That's a whole OTHER story, but I digress- Perhaps he wants to be numero uno in that Rat Race world he takes a profound part in; a world where "agriculture" has taken on a whole new meaning, and its production based on commerce, marketing, wealth, and greed, rather than it's True purpose of being food? Food that must give us health rather than make us dis-eased. (I won't even touch upon the animal bits in this fiasco.) And, I won't tell you his name, but it rhymes with kill hates.🙊I thank you for the first image that came to mind, though.🌻💜 In answer to the original question, I suppose it's good to have this vertical garden idea as one of the "Plan B"s, so to speak. In any case, I found the whole video to be dope A.F. Please Take care. And thanks for getting me started 😉😆🐣🌱

@jarvisaddison8560

3 жыл бұрын

@@katrina3560 what are the potential down sides? Or crops that can't be grown this way?

“We can condense 700 acres of farm land into the size of a big box retail store!” Hooooly f!

@mohameda5947

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad its far too expensive

@unknowngamer8827

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@catdogfishdogcats

2 жыл бұрын

"But it costs 100 million dollars". Lol. At that point RnD gotta catch up lol

@catdogfishdogcats

2 жыл бұрын

It's like the 100k lab grown burger. Lab grown burger sounds interesting until you hear it costs more than a car lol

@mohameda5947

2 жыл бұрын

Greenhouses seem to be the best option between all modes of farming

Wait a minute, this is not a Minecraft automatic farm tutorial??

@crocodileguy4687

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@hellatze

2 жыл бұрын

No it is minecraft automatic farm

@ynrikotowers4374

2 жыл бұрын

@@hellatze but with rtx on and mods

@adultishwaffle4463

2 жыл бұрын

Bro next decade we unlock the ability to make tall plants in multi storied buildings

@onghungphung7668

2 жыл бұрын

with ray tracing :v

Coming from a local farming community, I can see that if this is done right, it can be used to help and enhance local traditional farms and farmers. The two can coexist without being at odds.

@annedonnellan6876

Жыл бұрын

Enhance not replace

@mrdeepwebinsider2197

Жыл бұрын

Natural grown plants are always better.. we need a real plants not a fake ones..

@kdbee6086

Жыл бұрын

@@annedonnellan6876 Exactly

@kdbee6086

Жыл бұрын

@@mrdeepwebinsider2197 Your right

@benblas164

Жыл бұрын

Just remember they haven't figured out cereals or potatoes.... so they really aren't going to change much.

I am here in Japan developing a team to begin a hydroponics setup small at first doing a lot of experimenting to determine what type of system will work best. This is probably one of the most insightful discussions I have seen on this entire discourse on the future of agriculture and food production.

@UsernameCantGetMuchLongerCanIt

Жыл бұрын

Do you know which LEDs they're referring to when it comes to "best mimicry of the sun "?

@hydrogreen1111

Жыл бұрын

@@UsernameCantGetMuchLongerCanIt No, I don't.

@contrevien8608

Жыл бұрын

Hello, I am currently living in Tokyo and am very intereseted in agriculture, especially when combined with modern technology. Would definitely love to connect and discuss about this stuff more.

@aarunprasad

Жыл бұрын

Hello @hydrogreen. I thought of starting a hydroponics business in small scale. I want to know how things work. Is it possible to connect with you in this regard?. Please do reply.

@rooteddwellings

Жыл бұрын

I have 8 years of plant science schooling and I always look at Correlated Color Temperature (CCT) and Color Rendering Index (CRI) info this should be on the products labels. Natural light has a CCT rating of 6500K, so a light bulb with a rating near 6500K is ideal for grow lights.CRI is used to evaluate how well the light compares to visible sunlight. The maximum CRI rating of 100 corresponds to the natural light from sunlight. Good full-spectrum lights for indoor gardening have a CRI rating above 85, but the closer to 100, the better. ​@@UsernameCantGetMuchLongerCanIt

Vertical growing arrangements have been discussed for at least 20 years or more on cannabis growing forums.

@MrX-tm8fy

3 жыл бұрын

People can say whatever they want about potheads, but we gotta admit they have always been inventive, they think outside the box more easily than most people!

@injunsun

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr? I keep seeing randos here saying, "but, you cant grow this or that indoors!", to which I ask, "Why not?" Terracing exists, as does interplanting different species of different heights, and dwarf varieties of trees, done by grafting, then using espalier to spread them flat, would be easy. Some people just have no imagination, and want to crap on things they can't imagine, as if, since they can't, nobody can. 🙄

@midgetman4206

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if farmers have thought about it since the industrial revolution, and that's just building one. Someone definitely dreamed of this way before then

@Mundilfari_

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrX-tm8fy Restrictive laws and societal norms have forced the weed industry to evolve and get more efficient. It’s kinda crazy how advanced some of these farms are for a recreational plant, down to the desired trichomes and chemical map of the weed. If anything the weed industry has made it easier to engineer plants, even if it was inadvertent. I still don’t see why it’s looked at so negatively given the benefits

@kevinfruhwirth8391

2 жыл бұрын

Discussed is the keyword. Until someone really does it ✔️

“Farm smarter not harder”

@GjaP_242

2 жыл бұрын

4:14

@GjaP_242

2 жыл бұрын

“By 2050, there will be gene-edited crops, and it will trigger a much wider variety of crops being grown,” says Norman. This new technology allows scientists to precisely edit genes in DNA with the goal of creating a better crop variety. using google search

@GjaP_242

2 жыл бұрын

10:23

@CheeseMiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@GjaP_242 a gene edit crop is gmo. Which weve already been doing. Corn is a gmo of maize. But people hate gmos cuz those people are stupid

@kevinpaulus4483

2 жыл бұрын

@@CheeseMiser There are real concerns against GMO's: remember Monsanto and their dirty glyfosate GMO crops, what about the IP rights on common heritage ? This kind of hyperspecialisation will make farmers even more dependent on and ultimately reduce the gene pool of our horticulture crops. Just like with the seed companies now. Because nobody has to gather, select and store seeds anymore there is a great reduction of genetic diversity among common agriculture crops. We are losing the cultivars/heirlooms/landraces our grandparents ate and with it the rich library of genes from which we ultimately create new plants (GMO or conventional crossbreeding).

What I was curious about throughout the video was not if the produce tasted or looked better than normal, but if it managed to remain nutritious. I kinda find it weird that they didn't mention anything about the nutritional value, since that is the most important aspect of food🤔

@sanketx143

Жыл бұрын

Yes, me too. The constant lingering thought was if it still maintained its nutritional value.

@emanuelgonzalez7213

Жыл бұрын

Why would it change inside?

@nickmcdonald3083

Жыл бұрын

They would likely have higher nutrient value as there is a more controlled production of the plant. Can give it all the cofactors and proteins the plants need much easier.

@sharonwells9593

Жыл бұрын

They add the vitamins and minerals into the watering system. My concern is the loss of the sun's natural biogenesis on growing plants.

@emanuelgonzalez7213

Жыл бұрын

@Sharon Wells why, there is nothing special about the sun if you get the right frequencies

I feel like I may have found my new calling. It always has been nature, which is why I studied marine biology, but life is hard for me as a 31 year old adult diagnosed with ADHD. Employment is a constant struggle and I never seem to last longer than 3-6 months, my record being 1 year. I have started homesteading, being more self sufficient, using my strengths of hyperfocus and knowledge as a scientist to start small experiments with agriculture. In this past month, I made an indoor nursery (planning on making a high pressure aeroponic system for under 100€ soon), a 1000+ litre compost pile (will give hot water), bought 6 quail (incubating my first egg after only 1 week of having them), set up a small worm compost farm, bought over 50 vegetable + fruit seed packets (of which I've planted 10-20%). While my contributions to the scientific community have been negligible, I hope that by doing independent studies I might be inspired to change that.

@w3ss3x

Жыл бұрын

You should start making videos if you can

@yourday1363

Жыл бұрын

Man you gotta start uploading KZread videos

@piposanchez

Жыл бұрын

@@yourday1363 it's been on my mind for a while. I just didn't think people would care to watch it. Even though it is only 2 people, I guess I'm more motivated now after reading your comments. As for an update, 4 of the quail I hatched made it to adulthood and started laying eggs, but I encountered some hurdles with the fogponics. Keeping the pH steady in summer weather required a bigger budget than I had. And keeping the compost healthy was requiring too much water (will try again in winter).

@yourday1363

Жыл бұрын

@@piposanchez hey man, usually it’s not only your subscribers watching, let’s hope the algorithm pushes your videos out to people if and when you start uploading, I’m sure you’ll grow fast and hey if it becomes monetizable, you can use the money to fund ur hobbies, again dude I’m happy for you getting this far, keep it up

@piposanchez

Жыл бұрын

@@yourday1363 I find it pretty crazy how a stranger's word from across the world can kickstart something potentially huge. I haven't found the support elsewhere from friends or family, being mostly met with worry, scepticism, criticism and doubt. My grandmother left me 10 hectares of land in the south of Chile. It's beautiful but quite remote. If the KZread thing goes well, the next step could be scaling up massively. 15 years ago I got my grandmother on board to plant hundreds of thousands of trees there as a long term sustainable project. The government even subsidised part of it, but it didn't do as well since it wasn't protected from pests (rabbits). Other than that, the land has only made use of it with small projects, and there's so much potential... Sorry for the rant, but thanks again for your comment!

Wow, nate went from growing small farms on youtube to Wallstreet CEO grower. Incredible man, impressive work.

Ha, i followed this guy on youtube and lived near him when he started this. Incredible

@dertythegrower

3 жыл бұрын

Bright Agrotech was his channel. Unreal.. can't believe he got this big. Good job Nate.

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

That's so cool! The internet is a huge world and a small one, haha.

@injunsun

3 жыл бұрын

I love that. My brush with that sort of thing was discovering one of my FaceBook friends from New Zealand was friends with, and had had dinner with, one of my favourite PBS3 chefs, who does her show from down there.

@chrisl8950

2 жыл бұрын

Still catching up on all his videos. They know their stuff.

@joannot6706

2 жыл бұрын

Having a " ✓ " next to one's pseudo is like the people you know who wear counterfeit. Cringe and pathetic.

I’ve known about vertical farming and similar techniques for years now, and I’m so glad it’s finally gaining traction.

Seeing this in action everyday has been an incredible experience. The farm in Compton, CA., was built from the ground up. I have been there to see every step of the way.

I work at a VERTICAL FARM in NJ called Bowery Farming. It's amazing to be apart of the future of farming and R&D

@kkklover89

2 жыл бұрын

80s & 90s: ooh flying cars, this is the future!!! 2020s: ooh vertical farming, this is the future!!!

@nerd888

2 жыл бұрын

@@kkklover89 fax bro

@based9

2 жыл бұрын

ok, globalist

@thestudentofficial5483

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, i just read about Bowery. I plant hydroponics at home for micro business, but i wonder how the big corps do that.

@MP-ut6eb

2 жыл бұрын

@@based9 cringe...

I love the concept, but I would like to see detailed data on energy consumption of these operations. It is rare I hear a tech story that actually gives me a sliver of hope about the future, so rare that my instinct is to put it in the "if it sounds too good to be true..." category.

@Khristos13

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Vertical rotatary belt greenhouse anyone? Our gov invested in it, and I saw that greenhouse abandoned in the rural area. Millions taxpayer money wasted. The vid claim this can be done anywhere. Except they don't emphasize on the infrastructure need for electricity. I want to see how much green electricity they can produce off a big store warehouse land area for their 700 acres indoor farming 🙄. How much of the energy needed is supplemented by the usual power grid. Westerners are very good at marketing and making awesome videos, even if the products aint that feasible.

@anoniemw.222

Жыл бұрын

@@Khristos13 well I do not now the numbers. But I think you would safe a lot of recources by not having to transport the food across the world. in more dense countries a lot of space becomes a viable for nature and housing. Probably huge water savings to. Energy will probably be the big problem. The quastion is how big a problem and what are alternative wich are more energy friendly

@walrusking4347

Жыл бұрын

There will always be kinks in new innovative ideas. I believe farming this way will do way more help than harm by saving habitats, water, transportation costs and pollution. But I think energy consumption is one of the only problems with this system, so I think the real question is how can we limit the energy consumption of these facilities to a level that makes it a viable strategy for the whole world. If we have the technology to put a man on the moon I think we can easily solve the energy consumption problems with this system. I would say hold your tongue and don’t write it off as a bad idea with good intentions, there are large opportunities for vertical aeroponic farming to become the industry standard if your willing to be patient and maybe do your own research into how to make this work.

@vyzxyz6477

Жыл бұрын

The energy requirements of vertical farming lead to significant land use to provide the energy. For every acre of crops grown via vertical farming, 5.4 acres of solar panels would be required to supply the energy via solar power.Thus in practice, vertical farming may require more land than traditional farming, not less Louis Albright, a professor in biological and environmental engineering at Cornell stated that a loaf of bread that was made from wheat grown in a vertical farm would cost US$27.However, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average loaf of bread cost US$1.296 in September 2019, clearly showing how crops grown in vertical farms will be noncompetitive compared to crops grown in traditional outdoor farms According to a report in The Financial Times as of 2020, most vertical farming companies have been unprofitable. Vertical farms must overcome the financial challenge of large startup costs. The initial building costs could exceed $100 million for a 60 hectare vertical farm.Urban occupancy costs can be high, resulting in much higher startup costs - and a longer break even time - than for a traditional farm in rural areas. In Victoria, Australia, a "hypothetical 10 level vertical farm" would cost over 850 times more per square meter of arable land than a traditional farm in rural Victoria

@etiblmca9267

Жыл бұрын

@Dev Guy buy local permaculture grown food you technological turkey! 🤖🦃🍗

Sometimes I wonder what the world would have looked like without innovations like this😊, my advice for everyone, both in the agricultural industry and elsewhere, is to evolve with the world in others so as not to to be left behind

@martinsriggs2441

Жыл бұрын

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@charleyluckey2232

Жыл бұрын

I already like this guy, I would like to get involved please how can I contact him?

@fosterwhales1027

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes life is very easy and simple, if you do something good for the general public, it will not go unnoticed, thank you Mr. Larry Kent Nick for making my life easier

@charleyluckey2232

Жыл бұрын

I like the good recommendations on this guy, I will contact him as soon as possible, thank you all for all the help, it's been an honor 😊

@heather4089

Жыл бұрын

As long as the innovation doesn’t affect my health I’m in. Some innovations do affect your health. This one seems pretty good for me to do indoor growing.

One problem that's not mentioned in the video, is that there are a lot of crops and produce that are just not feasible to grow indoors and/or vertically. Growing most trees, and grains are just efficient enough. Great technology however, I hope it will be able to come down in price and availability.

@SandStormXII

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@same4047

2 ай бұрын

growing crops like corn, barley, wheat also fruiting trees and shrubs etc. doesn't make sense because they take a longer period to yield and more space so growing them would increase the cost in indoor conditions. only good for greens, veggies and long vine based vegetables.

This seems like a good idea, I would really like it to work. Something that worries me from an environmental perspective is how much electricity these farms will require, and whether those demands allow this to be part of a sustainable future

@PeyaLuna

2 жыл бұрын

there are ways to reduce the amount of energy if you´re getting creative...for example in my (cold climate!) city there´s a huge greenhouse on the roof of a bakery, using the excess heat from the ovens to heat the greenhouse which would just be wasted otherwise. other projects use the (co2-rich!) stale air from office buildings with ventilation systems as natural growth booster

@EsotericCat

2 жыл бұрын

Especially when year round. They require constant electricity which means during say a power shortage or outage they may rely on generators that burn fossil fuels. A lot of areas have generators like this in case of power shortsge and it can mean sustainability based on electricity is hard to calculate unless more power is renewable.

@c_ag9471

2 жыл бұрын

Why can’t a hybrid of solar, hydroelectric energy be a viable source?

@domib.3924

2 жыл бұрын

Remember the growing efficiency of LEDs

@kaleb5926

2 жыл бұрын

@@EsotericCat power outages happen less often than you think

I'm a minute in and it's already fascinating. Thanks Freethink!

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

So glad you liked it, thanks for watching!

@plurtology2-961

3 жыл бұрын

I accidentally clicked on this video and I do not regret it this is a great video.

I imagine every home having a large refrigerator sized, automated indoor vertical farm atrium and every restaurant, school, grocery store, etc having a storage container based , automated vertical farm too.

@papayaga1127

Жыл бұрын

Check out Lettucegrow

Verticle farming is something I've followed since I used to advise people on their pot grows 20 years ago, this is a game changer. Especially if you can pair some other things like aquaponics, mushroom growing, and find a way to still get animal based proteins farmed outside like free range chickens for a portion of meals a week. But like you said the biggest issue is current diet trends, and people don't like change...

@amyvoegerl6349

Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen some neat mushroom farms using coffee grounds. I have also heard of growing meat portions from single tissue samples. All very sci-fi, but very interesting. At the end of the day, like you said, it comes down to people and their habits. Without massive advertising campaigns and better information, people will not heed the benefits of new things like vertical farming and healthier diets.

@Someaddress555s

Жыл бұрын

@@amyvoegerl6349 I think vertical farming is much easier to spread, it takes way less water so it's ideal for the west. The key is putting as many different crops and potential industries under their roofs as possible. If you can find secondary industries, like recycling, power storage/production, habitation, bugs/fish, or whatever the total costs get offset with profits. The lab grown meat is going to take free samples like Costco does, gonna have to get people to try it and see it's good. The benefit is possibly that you can grow it faster and possibly cheaper than a full chicken that needs room and food/water to grow for months.

@marvin2678

5 ай бұрын

they dont follow it anmyore right ?

Minecraft Redstone Engineers: _Oh yeah. It’s all coming together._

@onionguy1

2 жыл бұрын

2035: automatic afk wheat farm

@onghungphung7668

2 жыл бұрын

I can hear the farmer's sound: "uh huh, huh!"

The graphics and visuals along with the voice is making this video highly entertaining!!! I appreciate that. Thanks😊

@skywalktriceiam

3 жыл бұрын

His inflection is freakin' impeccable😃

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear, thank you!

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

@@skywalktriceiam Nick does have some silky-smooth vocals, we admit.

@wovasteengova

3 жыл бұрын

Ya these guys do a good job.

@skywalktriceiam

3 жыл бұрын

@@wovasteengova they really do! I share their content a lot ↪

Love this concept. Would love to use this indoors for my house as I am an avid gardener for myself and my family. There’s nothing like fresh produce straight from your very own garden. With hard work that is!

I came across the concept of vertical farming just a few weeks ago. I'm so excited by it and the possibilities it opens up. Could this be the start of another agricultural revolution? I do hope so. Micro-urban farms in every major city. What a wonderful concept both for the human race and, perhaps more importantly, for our planet as a whole.

I remember wondering why this was not yet a thing when I was in preschool; glad it is finally on its way!

@Jibbie49

2 жыл бұрын

They were doing this at Disney World 30 yrs ago.

@spacegamer6906

2 жыл бұрын

Well I think the problem is just the energy need and efficient lighting, wich gets better and better

@krishnakumarpalanisamy6242

2 жыл бұрын

And you can only farm few vegetables and some spinach major food sources like rice ,wheat, corn may not be viable

@kkklover89

2 жыл бұрын

Just the latest hype/fad for the ignorant media to tout. Remember all the hype about flying cars decades ago? There are still millions of cars on the street.

@james4thedoctor482

2 жыл бұрын

@@kkklover89 This seems to not intend to replace standard farming but to bring fresh produce to dense, urban communities.

I dream of a program that can take in thousands of variables and suggest new food recipes. Variables like existing recipes, climate they were created in, what region of the world that recipe is popular in etc. Edit: Amazing video Freethink! I love the direction technology and AI is taking us in

@lcarthel

3 жыл бұрын

That's actually a brilliant idea. If you were into coding and AI that would be a fun project.

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

Love that idea! You could use this farm to literally customize the vegetables to grow in the best conditions for a particular kind of cuisine.

@lyamschuss8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@lcarthel I mean, the IA part is optional, since it would be for better customized recipe suggestions, and could be well enough replaced by an algorithm. The project should be easy to separate into 3 parts: the recipe database, the recommendation system and the user interface.

@RafaelGarcia-dt3wt

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you have much cooking experience sir. You can't come up with new recipes with an AI program. Successful recipes depend upon instinct and experience, not on the manipulation of data. You are not constructing a car. You are creating something that is very subjective. Its a good idea in theory only. Good luck.

@nenmaster5218

Жыл бұрын

@@freethink Be updated, be informed: 'Real Life Lore' and 'Some More News' cover countless Things, including the Famine that WILL be caused by the Ukraine-War.

Been watching Nate's KZread channel for the last six years, glad to see he is still pushing forward.

Your content deserve to be on tv or Netflix and have its own series, your documentary is on the level of million dollar budget.

True definition of “factory farming”. And “locally-grown” could be pineapples and avocados grown in the same facility as potatoes and winter wheat.

@PHE-nomenon

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I was waiting on him to speak about that as well.

@snowmiaow

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck on the wheat!

@jovanleon7

2 жыл бұрын

The only example where the factory product out health the nature one.

"Dinners ready! Who wants 10 pounds of arugula?!"

@FUFriendsUnited

2 жыл бұрын

Was waiting for this comment. Energy isn't cheap enough to grow heavy fruiting vegetables or grains yet.

@KM-qk1oz

2 жыл бұрын

@@FUFriendsUnited I bet you did the research on that 🙄

@FUFriendsUnited

2 жыл бұрын

@@KM-qk1oz There are research farms growing grains indoors. They can outperform yields similar to hydro or aeroponic grows like you're seeing in this video. The issue is the cost of energy. Most of the crops you're seeing (strawberry being the exception) are less sugar dense and require less light. There's certainly a tipping point in the future, but if it was here, it would be happening already.

It is amazing at this scale. This way of growing has been done for many years. Traditional farming done right can rebuild soils etc. This is not an end sum game. The different means of growing can co- exist. I personally love both.

I did at least 6 projects on this topic in undergrad and masters........At least as of Winter of 2021, the cost side isn't low enough. The only way this works is at whole foods+++ prices. It comes down to the simple math of what's cheaper: the sun + crop yields vs the cost of electricity - efficiency gains with 24/hr growing

This is amazing on so many levels! Thanks for posting this. My biggest issue right now is the immediate and sometimes ravenous "skeptism" surround any new "green technology". While concern is always legitimate the narrative that always bothers me the most is the idea that it will completely replace systems we us now seemingly overnight. Progress is NOT a zero sum game, these techniques can (and hopefully will) be used in conjunction of ones we already use now, so panic surrounding the industries we have now need not always worry. Also this "green technique" can also be used with other "green techniques" to make a better running system like using vertical farming in arid areas used for solar energy acquisition. The main thing we should ALL agree on is that humanity as a whole no longer has the luxury of being so wasteful and it will take unilateral collaboration to really move forward, survive, and thrive in the near and increasingly uncertain future. Thanks again.

@odinata

Жыл бұрын

Nature is amazing on so many levels! A fined tuned organism billions of years in the perfecting... Deciding to sidestep nature and grow populations artificially, without constraints of "then environment" is not just foolish. Its evil.

@-MaXuS-

Жыл бұрын

@@odinata Would u mind elaborating on exactly how it’s “evil”? U see, it’s so far from even potentially “evil” assuming the technology and methodology is democratized. To me being smarter about how we do things to enable us doing them better to…u know…stop the planet from being destroyed due to true evil, greed that’s causing the accelerating climate change catastrophe we’re barreling towards is the opposite of evil. Unless you’re representing big business and thus sees emerging green technologies as a threat to your bottom line I can’t fathom a logical reason why you’d make such a bizarre assertion. So I would genuinely appreciate if you would be so kind as to enlighten me by elaborating on why it’s “evil”. Thank you thank you, with peace and love! ✌️

@khrashingphantom9632

Жыл бұрын

@The Banned Okay? There's a strange amount of hostility in that comment. Lol

@beidorion

Жыл бұрын

Just remember to do 10th man thinking about it. because it will break at time so thn what ? but the concept and longterm use is something i am possitive about i just want to dull the hype some people get from new stuff.

I’ve literally felt this is the solution to our most immediate and largest existential threat for so many years. Like so many things, we have the solutions. We just need to use it.

@oliverford5367

2 жыл бұрын

I think we need to accept climate change is going to happen. Move off fossil fuels when we can yes, but no talk of Malthusian return to the stone age. If some land is going to be too hot to grow crops, work out where else to farm.

@tstcikhthys

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Though, "to feel" doesn't have any figurative meaning, so there's no need to say "literally".

@eneveasi

2 жыл бұрын

@@tstcikhthys I mean sure, but if you loosen up and read in common functionality, because this is the internet.. you understand what I mean.

@eneveasi

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliverford5367 I think we need to focus a more on preserving, protecting, and restoring natural ecosystems.Yes, climate change will do its damage, but we also are destroying ecosystems and converting large portions of it to monoculture. Probably even 15% of all the land and water we impact with our various forms of agriculture, if protected, will do the world enormous good!

@tstcikhthys

2 жыл бұрын

@@eneveasi I said that in quite a "loosened up" way. The internet is all about terseness, not verbosity, so it's weird to use extra, redundant words when the same could be said in fewer.

We have a warehouse in Australia and would love to grow a vertical farm! This is brilliant 👌

Its expensive to make massive grow ops like this indoors, but the easiest way to get this to catch on for a cheaper price is to change the building code to include, say min 1 sqm of vertical farm per new house/condo built. It would take up the space of a small closet, and would help people be a little more self sufficient.

This is actually pretty amazing. Why no one thought of this before is crazy.

@matthewgriffiths9642

3 жыл бұрын

Loads of people have thought of it before them...these dudes just killin the game doe

@vonbrendt01

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewgriffiths9642 makes sense. I guess these folks are just the ones that made it work.

@nibblrrr7124

3 жыл бұрын

​@@vonbrendt01 Their tech is amazing & I'm excited someone is developing it, but sadly the key ingredient to "making it work" on a large scale would be a *carbon-neutral power economy without fossil fuels.* Without that, large-scale vertical farming would be terrible regarding CO2 emissions, AFAICT. I doubt the gains from shorter transportation and one-off gains from reforestation (or, let's be real, slower deforestation) come anywhere near offsetting the inefficiency of photovoltaics + LEDs + heating + infrastructure + ...

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, the idea is actually over 100 years old! But new breakthroughs in technology - from robotics to lighting to software - are just now making it feasible and efficient, and there's a lot of room to go. Often these breakthroughs are really the culmination of a lot of different advances and projects around the world and people building on the knowledge and tools available. The Netherlands has been a big leader in the field and actually the #2 exporter of food in the world thanks to their technology - we toured some of their facilities two years ago. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZp2lNWxadipm6w.html

@davinamichaeli3640

3 жыл бұрын

They did, the apartment or small yard dwellers 😂

I like that you have actually mentioned the effect it will have on farmers and the agricultural community. I think it will be important not to forget them as we move to a more eco friendly farming technique. These farmers have made it their life to try to provide for us, some have barely been making ends meet, so as a community we need to recognize this as we move forward. In reality I’m will change the careers of many. We will not need as many truck drivers either. We would need to ensure they can transfer into other job specialities. I really think this is great!

@MrJeremytpage

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I’d love to visit one of these warehouses.

@Tomatos1234

Жыл бұрын

In my personal opinion we should build these vertical farms in places that traditional farming isn’t possible so that we can make sure we have a sustainable food production before we make the full transition. Another idea would be to either stack them higher, or maybe even put “forests” on the rooftops of these building or solar panels. Solar panels do release a lot of carbon dioxide to build, but if we offset some of that with lush Forrest’s and cleaning ocean coral reefs and such, we could technically survive on solar, (storing electricity for emergency as well) there are so many ways to innovate the technology that already exists today.

@visiblyvisible6451

Жыл бұрын

Farming is still needed you can only make small leafy greens with vertical farms good like trying to grow tomatoes or peppers

@ttt5020

Жыл бұрын

That’s like saying we should keep using fossil fuels to spare the jobs of gas station workers -_-

@tomlxyz

Жыл бұрын

​@@ttt5020 yeah "let's not go more environmentally friendly because people might lose jobs" Traduon) traditional farming just isn't sustainable to feed the whole world anymore

I love the idea of vertical farming and have been dreaming of it since I first heard it mentioned in some computer games over 10 yrs ago. But what makes me a little nervous is when he mentions that there is no bird-poop or insects; that we will become allergic to even more things in the future. Just like we've increasingly become since our homes have become more or less sterile.

@marvin2678

5 ай бұрын

is that abad thing ?

It's important to talk about yield, it's equally important to speak of how much nutrition is in each plant

No discussion of how widespread adoption of indoor growing would compromise an already struggling power grid and what the environmental effects of increased power generation would be.

@mikaelarule

3 жыл бұрын

Solar power. Some states already have programs for free residential panels and installation through state funded programs

@dertythegrower

3 жыл бұрын

Solar power, and samsung lm301 led lights are taking over. I get a 401k for growing.

@Buddhamaniac

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikaelarule One of the major reasons given for this type of cultivation is saving space. If you then have to cover the landscape in acres and acres of solar panels, what have you gained? The answer is Nuclear.

@nibblrrr7124

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Buddhamaniac Right. I guess if you really had efficient, cheap power storage & transportation, it might be worthwile to plaster the deserts with solar and the oceans with wind farms, and deliver it to local farms in areas where most people actually want to live? Nuclear fission is certainly preferable to further digging us into our climate hellhole with fossil fuels, but I hope it will be practised in a way where we don't bury tons of fissile plutonium while digging up new uranium instead of closing the fuel cycle, keep shoving waste around on trains between "temporary storage" until eventually ending up at sites picked for political irrelevance instead of geological suitability, and also keep the door open for arms proliferation - i.e. pretty different from how it's generally actually done now, AFAIU... :\ Anyway, from an #aesthetic standpoint, I'd love to have my bioreactor-grown spirulina slurry with a couple of perfect vertically-farmed strawberries, all powered by fusion power plants - I heard those are only 20 years away! :^)

@Buddhamaniac

3 жыл бұрын

@@nibblrrr7124 👍

Have been watching Nate's youtube channel years back, was a pleasant surprise to see him on here on Freethink and going with his passion so far.

This has such great potential! The two areas I would love to see considered are 1. the benefits of real sunlight over LED, maybe solar lights or solar sessions, which are not as controllable as LED, but you just can't beat the synergy of nature, of which we are only beginning to understand; and 2. the absence of vital microbiome that exists in outdoor grown crops. The food borne illness causing bacteria are such a small portion of the bacteria that are on crops in their natural environment and are vital to human health. I appreciate the impact not having to wash the crops has on resources, but I would love to see the important bacteria, yeast, and other microbes being considered.

This is the future of large scale agriculutral production. I love everything about it. Thanks for sharing the video. Your production quality is top notch!

@freethink

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear you're enjoying the content.

Can we just take the time to acknowledge how good the production is on these videos, keep it up Freethink

The real innovation would be building an at-home appliance that automates the growing of food in your pantry.

@orionpax45

2 жыл бұрын

Like a 3D food printer? We are already on it =)

@based9

2 жыл бұрын

decentralised food

@mlove.97

2 жыл бұрын

Be able to grow and have our own basic food needs.. like before industrialization.. beinh responsible for ourselves in that way would be such a healthy step for all of us.! 💗🙏🌎

@martiddy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it would be the same technology but a smaller scale

@CheeseMiser

2 жыл бұрын

Its called a garden

What interests me the most is the ability to tune the characteristics of the plants just by changing the light! In addition to varietals we could have subvarietals or personalized varietals

@lpnmr1513

10 ай бұрын

So, changing our whole food production system, saving forests and natural habitats, saving water and reducing carbon emissions is secondary to you. But you want to have a crunchier kale, right?

@Dysiode

10 ай бұрын

@@lpnmr1513 Sorry, I should have clarified to avoid offending you, what I should have said is "What interests me the most ABOUT THIS TECHNIQUE AS COMPARED TO OTHER VERTICAL FARMING SYSTEMS..." I hope you can sleep better now knowing you were right. Except about the kale part. I don't eat kale. Maybe I would if it were crunchier? Do you think maybe making healthy, sustainable food more palatable to more people would promote people to eat more of those foods and less beef? Could that not PERHAPS contribute positively to all the goals you stated? Or did you just want to use the planet as a way to score a moral victory in your own mind?

What will be amazing in the future is a no-till vertical farming setup. Lots of nutritional benefits from soil that you don't get with hydroponics, which I believe this probably is.

This is actually so amazing! Watched cowspiracy in class and I realized how ridiculously large the amount of land and habitats we destroy for agriculture. I also wonder how much this vertical farming costs to do. Because sad as it is, people and businesses are all about profit. If it's too expensive to switch from horizontal to vertical, some powerful people might not want to support it. We have to change society's priorities

@josephwilliams9979

2 жыл бұрын

@Dennis Hartmann I was a big meat eater all my life but I’ve realised how bad it is for the world and I want a good future or at least a future which isn’t world case environmental scenario. So if people like me are switching from meat, the world is starting to awaken, slowly but it is. Just think at how big the plant based produce and plant protein section has grown in supermarkets over the last 10 years.

@dinahi.5582

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, just saw this... so you people are going to hate on the farmers who has been feeding you all these years because some people found a new way to plant massive food indoors?

@maalikserebryakov

Жыл бұрын

@@dinahi.5582 cope

At the very end of the video he says, “we can give back the mid-west to the Buffalo.” Then there was an image of a Buffalo (not a North American Bison) which didn’t make sense. The Buffalo on the screen only lives in Asia and parts of Eastern Europe, not the mid-west

@arkinyte13

2 жыл бұрын

They were hoping people didn’t notice.

@sheezy2526

2 жыл бұрын

They also showed Arugula when talking about Kale. Let it go. You don't need to pour gasoline all over yourself and light the match

@sanjugunasekara2651

2 жыл бұрын

You are a small -minded, petty person.

We need to consider the importance of the microbiome and mycelium for nutrient uptake when making vertical growing solutions. I like the idea of a pristine garden space with incredibly rich soil, some terra preta type stuff, where the water that grows our food gets to flow naturally as a stream through a mineral rich environment. Just a 60wx40lx30h foot room with a tree and a stream.

We absolutely need more entrepreneurs to specialize in this industry in order to spread it globally. This truly is a huge factor of our sustainable future on Earth.

Clicked on this video accidentally, watched the whole thing

@dunnperfect8567

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, we'll take it!

That was pretty cool. I've watched a lot of vertical farming videos but these guys are taking it to the next level.

Thank you for making this video! It truly amazed me and later inspired me to take vertical farming and vertical gardens as the theme of my graduation thesis. I'm glad I will be able to write and research about this new technology and opportunity for a better future.

Honestly I needed a hopeful video this afternoon wow... I know there's stuff here that make it less ideal but I feel like we just need to start sending it.

And there will be someone who's like "BOYCOTT!! This is unnatural! Plants are meant to grow on flat land with sunlight and blah blah blah."

@jeanetteinthisorn4955

3 жыл бұрын

So, my one concern would be that plants are meant to grow in soil with beneficial bacteria and fungi that the plant has a symbiotic relationship with, where the plant feeds them carbs and they deliver minerals the plants need, basically on demand . So I fail to see how the vertical farm will do that as effectively as a well managed no till market garden/regenerative small scale farm. BUT BIG AG that is owned by the pharmaceutical companies kills all the soil microbes, so its not like the majority of the farmland does this anyway. And people would rather buy consumer junk from overseas than pay slightly more for regenerative farm food, so they need these vertical farms to feed their consumerism.

@Abbebobo

2 жыл бұрын

Vertical farm use water with a nutrient solution to feed the plants. Everything the plants needs can be found in the water. The reason why plants need fungi and all that stuff is because it’s hard to find in the soil where nutrient doesn’t constantly flow around. Some beneficial bacteria is present in the water to. The fact is that the plants grown in vertical farms grow much faster and a failed harvest is eliminated. It’s saves a huge amount of land. Growing food in the traditional why or in a regenerative way is not way to go with the population we have.

@jeanetteinthisorn4955

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abbebobo a perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect 👌.

@ipodninja

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanetteinthisorn4955 The projection is strong with this one.

@MrTeddy12397

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanetteinthisorn4955 pot, meet kettle.

I love everything about this! And the narrator is perfect for this. I'd also love to figure out how to implement something like this on my sailboat. Where getting fresh greens is a major struggle.

I do think out off all the innovations I’ve seen I think this done on large scale has the potential to solve the most problems

Led lights, electricity, tech, .... they neglected to discuss those wastes and toxicities.

They only produce leafy greens though. Grow fruit or even carrots or potatoes.

@dukedashwolfgg2283

2 жыл бұрын

Carrots and tomatoes can be grown quite easily in this method, there's a mega greenhouse that literally grows MILLIONS of tomatoes in five acres

My wife doesn't know it but I have been looking at hydroponics and considering it fairly heavily when I get my own home. I have already grown peas that were delicious in 5 gallon buckets outside but there were bugs in it at the end of the season. Lettuce, peas and strawberries are what I am looking at starting with.

@iria9755

2 жыл бұрын

You don't really need to get into hydroponics. I mean, if that's your thing, just go for it. But having bugs at the end of the season is pretty normal, specially in those plants that you don't harvest as a whole. Lettuce and strawberries are super easy to grow in containers, just give it a try!

While at first it sounds like great idea, when you think more about it there is question: how much electricity it needs? The problem is that most of eletricity is not from a clean source (in my country coal is still most popular :/), but gradual cjange seems to be good idea. Also: I do think we should left some of the current system agroculture/farms

I can just imagine farmers joining together in co-operatives. And prospering by not having to slave their lives at the mercy of the elements. Farming can be such a thankless lifestyle. This could be a turning point for farming families and give them a much better quality of life. While still enjoying life on the land. There's an exciting future ahead for mankind.

Thank you for sharing! I’d encourage anyone who sees this comment to search for more videos on the topic of vertical farming because there’s lots of great info out there!

@freethink

3 жыл бұрын

Right on!

@chrisl8950

2 жыл бұрын

specifically his channel is Bright Agrotech and has a bunch of their early commercial versions in there kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIWqpNOPlrexmNo.html

@mattwilson5383

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the energy consumption of a place like this? They didn’t really touch on it. I’m sure it’s high but can’t be too horrible right? No sarcasm, genuinely curious

@frenchyalicea649

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattwilson5383 thats probably the highest expense they incur aside from the cost of outfitting the building or actually building a location solely gor this purpose.

There are so many companies doing this, it is great

This is a very good solution for a lot of problems. Here in Universidade de São Paulo (USP), Brazil, we have a group of researchers whom are developing a new material for the adherence of vertical farm to outdoor on buildings. Brazil is the head when we talk about agriculture, sustainability and enveironment.

I'd be sold on this when it can grow wheat, rice, corn, soy beans, and potatoes. Salad greens are great and all but it's the grains that feed the population and the livestock.

I hope we can continue spreading this practice everywhere. This defo is the future thanks for the video

Could you imagine if there was a farm on the lower floors of your apartment building? Like maybe your own supermarket too type of thing.

To be honest, this is what I will do because everywhere I look in my country, there's a lack of housing even in rural areas. So I thought of minimalizing the amount of area farmland takes. Imaging what we could do with all those farmlands being put in a building not too large. I hope I can do this in the next 40 years.

@felathar1985

Жыл бұрын

Were are you from that there's no space?

@matthew9625

Жыл бұрын

yep just ruin the countryside with housing even more

@ETBONIFACIO

Жыл бұрын

@@matthew9625 I mean to say cheap housing for people living in informal settlements and slums. Especially here in the Philippines. But you have a great point actually.

@brettharter143

Жыл бұрын

Imagine what you could do with Bill Gates 200 acres? Is he growing your food? Hes got alot of land hes not sharing

I'm surprised you didn't mention AppaHarvest. They have enormous warehouse vertical farms here in KY.

Great vid the closing comments really sit with me though " be less extractive" so true.

This is what I’ve been talking about for ages. One of these every 5 city blocks. At the end of the day people pick up the produce they’re gonna eat (free of charge), cook it, and then eat communally with their neighbors on former streets now filled with lush green grass, fitted with long tables and benches where everyone can eat and enjoy each other’s company and actually get to know each other.

@ianmf5957

Жыл бұрын

FrEe oF cHaRgE 🥴

@heaventohades

Жыл бұрын

we have the resources to feed everyone on earth sustainably, and it's possible to achieve that if you overthrow the system that keeps that from happening

@charleskavoukjian3441

Жыл бұрын

@@heaventohades lol, you mean every world leader in nations who need it most? If aid, food, money for infrastructure etc get sent. Id say most of it wont end up in the peoples hands. Just the rich/ ruling class.

@heaventohades

Жыл бұрын

@@charleskavoukjian3441 the people who own everything (food corporations, water companies, energy, microchips) get all the wealth because they "own" the very materials that let us produce all Necessities like factories, mines for raw metals, and their employees' time on earth. This fact + their lobbying (bribing) the government so that we constantly Need to keep paying them for essentials instead of being self sufficient means that we can never stop paying them for the advantage that they have over us. they exploit this and shape things so that we are wholly dependent on consumerism to go about our day to day, which is seen in day to day minutiae like infrastructure built for cars rather than people, medicine that literally keeps you from dying costing a week's paycheck, making it illegal to plant a free community garden... you know. being rich isn't the whole story behind why the ruling class is a parasitic type of animal, it's the fact that they are rich Because they make passive income by Owning things while we Work both to make And buy the product that they're making money off of all while napping on their yacht. the government will always bend to their will because government is only a technical power which is only Secondary because it will always be controlled by the Primary power of any nation is Whoever Owns the Nation's Necessities. the biggest army in the world would be useless if you can't feed, them after all. whats my point with this? the rich/ruling class do exist, and they exist because they have spent centuries shaping things in a way where society is used to them being a component of life. this is the "system" im talking about overthrowing. how is that supposed to happen? the same way the US started. 💥💥💥

@ganymedehedgehog371

Жыл бұрын

Every 5 blocks? “Free?” Are you for real?

the amount of tech involved raises questions on how much rare earths and fossil fuel products will be required to build and mantain this kind of farming per kcal of food produced

When most people think of future tech and robots, they’re usually envisioned building other robots or hard goods. Why isn’t it more common to imagine the tech doing tasks like perfecting farming or assisting with human care?

This is so awesome.. looking forward to watch much more this kind of content.. more ever God bless these kind of people who are actually doing something to make this world a better place, wish our politicians could learn a thing or two.

These are wonderfully produced mini-docs, and so interesting to watch!

so we can focus on indoor production but outdoor we can design it to benefit the other life we share this planet with? thats a beautiful idea; thank you.

I've been following this scene for more than a decade now and really unless a boom in energy generation/storage, light production, biotech, or human diet happen, vertical/indoor farming will never replace traditional farms. Indoor farming is limited to crops with very low calorie content. High calorie crops like corn and wheat needs LOTS of energy and at the current state, only the sun can provide that much energy sustainably. It's simple thermodynamics, you can't produce/condense energy unless you have that energy available in the first place.

Now that is a vision I can get behind! I do like the idea of hydroponics (because those are just very very very large hydroponics systems, which already exist for home use, so yes, you can grow your own food indoors, even if it is icy cold outside or arid!) :)

There's one thing I want to nitpick on. The population doesn't absolutely need to grow... This growth mindset is what put us in this predicament in the first place. More people ultimately means more resource extraction, even if we reduce the footprint of agriculture.

I aspire to be able to own a farm like this and help my city. Thank you for inspiring!

This is all really fantastic work and I'm glad I get to love to see it. However, I do have one question. In nature, when a plant is growing it forms a relationship with a mycorrhizal network of mushrooms, helpful bacteria, and protozoa. This has two effects, it increases the overall fertility of the soil by allowing nutrients to be shared between plants in the network but more importantly with mushrooms and single-celled organisms. The mushrooms and microorganisms, being as unique as they are, produce incredibly useful biological molecules that act as medicines in our gut and cause the cell walls to become less porous, disallowing viruses and potentially cancer-causing bacteria to settle there. My question is this: because they're not being planted in soil and thus not having access to a variety of mycorrhizal and microorganism networks, do the plants contain or is there a way to allow then to contain the same molecules one would find in a typical soil-grown organic food crop?

@HKS-Digital

2 жыл бұрын

That is a good question, though I think this company will just geneticly engineer their way out of this problem. We shall see

@justseelemonina

2 жыл бұрын

these farms can be aquaponic or soil, nutrients can be added to the water and we can eat mushrooms and grow mushrooms the same way, most mushrooms farms already work like this, in an sterile environment and in stacks, so i think everything will work out in the end

@HKS-Digital

2 жыл бұрын

@@justseelemonina you clearly didn't read the whole comment

@aeneas1677

2 жыл бұрын

@kenny santiago these mycorrhizal networks of mushrooms and other helpful bacteria only take place in biodiverse areas such as forests, not in monoculture farms, where they would have little to no effect on the crops growing.

This is so freaking dope! I can't wait till this technology gets a lot cheaper! If the price of their products is the same as farms, then you reached a critical point to sell to the masses

@solar2607

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I feel the same way. I hope it's realised within our lifetime.

Thank you guys for saving the earth! Love and respects from India🙏

as an environmental engineer, one of the most promising ideas I've seen is hydroponic rice since the flooding of soils produces huge amounts of methane due to the anaerobic conditions produced. unfortunately, the yield of hydroponic rice doesn't justify its cost but I'm really really REALLY hopeful that one day, this could be a reality :)

Expanding farms vertically makes sense , wish the video delved more into the scalability of this, construction and operating costs and output of the current designs. I believe this approach to farming is a matter of when instead of if, but more in depth analysis would've been helpful to understand how soon this is achievable.

@Freethink Great video as always, packed with great visuals and information. Quick question, what is your take on this technology vs traditional farming in the context of farmers? Do you think these vertical farms would be able to generate enough jobs for the farmers who are working traditionally in horizontal fields? For example, people in many countries have whole families working as farmers from generations which might not result in favourable outcomes when replaced with this new AI-powered tech. I would love to see a comparison in that aspect ( hopefully a well-drafted video 🙂 )

Just rewatched this video for the...5th time i think. This time to present this project in university. Great video, great technology. Love it!

I love the final comments "we can give back..." ,the environments we have taken from animals.

Is there any insight you can provide on the environmental impact that a facility like this has due to the temperature control systems? Heating and cooling can put some horribly bad things into the environment.

This is what we need limitless space vertical farms more space indeed.

1:26 thanks for indicating that this wasn't filmed on mars because I wouldn't have known

@laritou2987

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHA so funny, right? ...

Well, The Villages, Florida has at least one company that is doing both indoor vertical and outdoor organic vegetable farming on a small commercial scale. I think this is a great idea for areas where the weather is not conducive for produce farming. Lights, Glasshouses, Frames and trellis growing, hydroponics, and the type of aqua-farming Aquaponics where both vegetables and fish grow in harmony together. I do a tiny amount of outdoor traditional vertical vegetable gardening on trellis, supports, stacked planters, and even on a chain link fence - even smaller watermelons for my own family's home use.

@freethink

8 ай бұрын

Oh wow, love the idea of a trellis vertical garden! How was your watermelon crop this summer?

@lindawoody8501

8 ай бұрын

@@freethink Got three small ones. Bush Sugar Baby which is a hybrid but volleyball sized and sweet. @freethink Plants grown in a 20" diameter deep plastic pot and an Earth Box plastic self-watering type planter box. Grown on chain link fencing on my side of a dirt back alley.

This one gave me shivers and made me cry a little bit. I would love to see a world where food deserts were a thing of the past. Not to mention the benefits to the environment, sustainability, and of course flavor.

The biggest question is, how good does it taste compared to the original sun lit crops?

This makes me so proud of the netherlands! Wageningen university pioneered this tech. Good to finally see it put to the test

@roxane1237

Жыл бұрын

Well now we just need to forward the memo to the angry Dutch farmers and stop the stikstofcrisis. Easy peasy.

I love all this but I want to see the nutritional data on this produce. Is it nutritionally dense? If so then this is magnificent work.